The TV shows you've seen recently thread.

[BlueTsunami]

Yeah this thing is insane, I'm on the 4th episode of 6 and its stunning how a percieved utopia just spiraled down to the lowest levels of morality. There's nuance here with how the cult is portrayed, they're empathetic at first. But the war games between the group and locals brought out the worst in everyone. Even the interviewed faithful were aware enough to see that line.

Its also timely. From the perception of the locals it certainly comes off as bigoted. The mostly white Christian locals tried to intimidate the group out of existence. The diifference being this group were not pascifists. They matched the agression each step of the way.

As to what TVC brought up. Yep, 700 locals from the Dalles were stricken with salmonella but it was never proved that the cult did this. Quite a coincidence though given the context of what had happened proceeding that.

Theres just wealth of information to wade through here. The various motivations. I'm especially curious about this east meets west, spirituality meets capitalism philosophy. Its so hilariously shallow on its face. Feels almost like the proto-scientology.

[TVC15]

Yeah this thing is insane, I'm on the 4th episode of 6 and its stunning how a percieved utopia just spiraled down to the lowest levels of morality. There's nuance here with how the cult is portrayed, they're empathetic at first. But the war games between the group and locals brought out the worst in everyone. Even the interviewed faithful were aware enough to see that line.

Its also timely. From the perception of the locals it certainly comes off as bigoted. The mostly white Christian locals tried to intimidate the group out of existence. The diifference being this group were not pascifists. They matched the agression each step of the way.

As to what TVC brought up. Yep, 700 locals from the Dalles were stricken with salmonella but it was never proved that the cult did this. Quite a coincidence though given the context of what had happened proceeding that.

But they found that the cult had samples of the exact same rare strand of salmonella, amongst other deadly chemical/bio agents, stored in their supplies. It couldn’t have been a coincidence. Watch the Forensic Files episode, too (also on Netflix).

And cult members were convicted and jailed for it. Maybe the documentary hasn’t revealed the whole story yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack

[BlueTsunami]

Yeah this thing is insane, I'm on the 4th episode of 6 and its stunning how a percieved utopia just spiraled down to the lowest levels of morality. There's nuance here with how the cult is portrayed, they're empathetic at first. But the war games between the group and locals brought out the worst in everyone. Even the interviewed faithful were aware enough to see that line.

Its also timely. From the perception of the locals it certainly comes off as bigoted. The mostly white Christian locals tried to intimidate the group out of existence. The diifference being this group were not pascifists. They matched the agression each step of the way.

As to what TVC brought up. Yep, 700 locals from the Dalles were stricken with salmonella but it was never proved that the cult did this. Quite a coincidence though given the context of what had happened proceeding that.

But they found that the cult had samples of the exact same rare strand of salmonella, amongst other deadly chemical/bio agents, stored in their supplies. It couldn’t have been a coincidence. Watch the Forensic Files episode, too (also on Netflix).

Ahhh that would make sense. On the documentary they're still in the phase of trying to find criminal reasons to prosecute, so at that point its still a who done it. If thats the case, when they do raid the compound its probably going to be amazing. I'll definitely checking out the forensic files episode too.
 
They've also the alluded to "the laboratory" too an episode back. Apparently a state inspector was a door handle away from finding the facility but the dokr was locked and the group was skittish due to the armed Rajneeshee

[BlueTsunami]

[BisMarckie]

I am catching up on Black Mirror. So far I am still at Season 3.
Man some of the stuff is pretty bad like the Waldo Episode from Season 2 or the Episode where they kill the "roaches". I really liked the first season and parts of season 2. Does it get better or did they run out of interesting ideas?

I liked the San Junipero episode because of the 80's atmosphere but most stuff before that in seasons 2 and 3 felt really bland.

[Tasty]

s3 is really uneven just as a byproduct of having more episodes. s2 gets dinged because it only has three eps and one of them is that terrible Waldo ep, yeah. Personally, s3 probably has the most episodes I'd consider "good to great." I really enjoyed Nosedive, Shut Up and Dance, and San Junipero.

s4 is mostly trash though, unfortunately. The only truly great episode is the first and it's downhill from there. Highly disliked the last episode.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I'd say at this point, mostly thanks to season 4, there are more mediocre and bad episodes than good episodes of Black Mirror. That last episode is such a trash fire. Charlie Brooker should move on to something new.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Yeah, I completely agree. I really enjoy Brooker but the last season started to verge on feeling like someone doing a parody of him. There's only so many ways you can tell a story about someones consciousness getting trapped in an egg or a videogame or a teddy bear or whatever, y'know? 

[toku]

[seagrams hotsauce]

Arkangel is one of the weakest episodes of the show dude, you're nuts

[CatsCatsCats]

Started Silicon Valley last night, pretty funny so far

[TVC15]

Arkangel is one of the weakest episodes of the show dude, you're nuts

How in the fuck is this an opinion an actual person has?

It has a decent concept with potential, but it takes that concept on one of the most predictable paths possible. It just felt underwritten to me. Largely the same issue with Crocodile. It felt like Brooker gave up after the first draft of the script on all the season 4 eps.

[Tasty]

Don't Hang the DJ was thin but still pretty fun. I stand by my original s4 statement though.

[TVC15]

Don't Hang the DJ was thin but still pretty fun. I stand by my original s4 statement though.

Yeah, prob the next best after he first ep. It was closest to classic Black Mirror, but it still felt too derivative of things the series had already gone over.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Arkangel is one of the weakest episodes of the show dude, you're nuts

How in the fuck is this an opinion an actual person has?

You're in the minority on this one, bud. Honestly, you're the first person I've seen praise it.

[BisMarckie]

Arkangel is one of the weakest episodes of the show dude, you're nuts

After seeing it last night I can't disagree. It's just other older episodes crammed into one. I watched the beginning of Hang the DJ but I passed out after 10 minutes.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Don't Hang the DJ was thin but still pretty fun. I stand by my original s4 statement though.

Yeah, prob the next best after he first ep. It was closest to classic Black Mirror, but it still felt too derivative of things the series had already gone over.

Yeah, the entire season was a retread of past themes and concepts. The episodes that stood out (for me USS Callister and Hang the DJ) stood out purely on the basis of execution. Episodes like Arkangel never felt like it got beyond its original "helicopter parenting, but in the future" elevator pitch.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Don't Hang the DJ was thin but still pretty fun. I stand by my original s4 statement though.

Yeah, prob the next best after he first ep. It was closest to classic Black Mirror, but it still felt too derivative of things the series had already gone over.

Yeah, the entire season was a retread of past themes and concepts. The episodes that stood out (for me USS Callister and Hang the DJ) stood out purely on the basis of execution. Episodes like Arkangel never felt like it got beyond its original "helicopter parenting, but in the future" elevator pitch.

That's what really bothered me about s4 - it felt like a lot of the episodes were cobbled together from concepts and ideas from previous seasons. The 'abuse of an unwillingly subservient copy of ones consciousness' USS Callister was done in the Christmas special, and I felt like the themes of Hang the DJ were better done in San Junipero.

Honestly though, the worst episode of season 4 was the one of the yearly Wipe we didn't get as a result of CB being caught up with the show

[chronovore]

Finished all (s3) of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. It's still fabulous, and I know it's a different show than 30 Rock, but having so many similar themes and actors on it, I still think 30 Rock is the better show. I randomly played the MILF Island episode after finishing UKS, and it's composed better, has more laugh aloud moments, and hits me in a betters spot. But UKS is still great, it just doesn't quite fill the 30R hole.  I think everyone on this board is younger than I am, so not many will relate to what a joy it is to see Carol Kane performing on TV again. When she was Simpka, Latka's girlfriend on Taxi, I developed a tremendous crush on her.

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah Kimmy Schmidt is a hoot. It definitely feels like the spiritual successor to 30 rock. 30 rock may have overall been funnier on an episode to episode basis but Titus is the funniest best character to emerge from either show imo

Titus being an evolution of the D'fwan character from 30 rock

[Momo]

So who watched Krypton?

[Momo]

So who watched Krypton?

Who would subject themselves to yet another shitty DC show?

TVC

[Tasty]

Really, if they were committed to "Alien drama set in the DC Universe" there's like a million better choices than "Krypton except 50 years before Kal El is born."

[Momo]

Like maybe a lantern story or legion and rebels or Starfire pre earth

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[TVC15]

Tonight bitches

[toku]

Small Brain: lol Supernatural sucks
World Brain: First five seasons are alright, shit aftewards
Galaxy Brain: Its had ups and downs but its still a fun show even when it goes full soap opera
Cosmic Brain: The most important serialized television show of a generation...multiple generations

[CatsCatsCats]

Tonight bitches

God I hope the pirates hop on this one, I had to buy all Stars 3 on amazon to get my fix in a timely manner

[seagrams hotsauce]

Finished all (s3) of Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt. It's still fabulous, and I know it's a different show than 30 Rock, but having so many similar themes and actors on it, I still think 30 Rock is the better show. I randomly played the MILF Island episode after finishing UKS, and it's composed better, has more laugh aloud moments, and hits me in a betters spot. But UKS is still great, it just doesn't quite fill the 30R hole.  I think everyone on this board is younger than I am, so not many will relate to what a joy it is to see Carol Kane performing on TV again. When she was Simpka, Latka's girlfriend on Taxi, I developed a tremendous crush on her.

Check out Great News. It's another Fey/Carlock joint, and it's very much in the same vein as 30 Rock/Kimmy. Kind of more of a successor to 30 Rock than Kimmy was, as it's set in a workplace, and I've heard that this is the show Tina Fey initially pitched before doing 30 Rock, though I have no idea if that's true or not

[CatsCatsCats]

How did I never hear about Great News? And it has Nicole Richie? And Andrea Martin? I have homework now

[seagrams hotsauce]

NBC did a supremely shitty job marketing it, which is unfortunate cuz it's a really fun show. It tanked in the ratings, but luckily NBC quickly picked it up for a second season, though as of now it looks like it's lights out. A lot of really memorable, weird characters and really clever writing

[benjipwns]

Lucifer is just silly, they finally did some stuff with Cain being immortal and all, plus Abel showed up. And Tom Welling is just nice to look at. Really, much of the cast is.

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"Do you know how many times I've tried to tell people, Abel is the asshat?!? Nobody ever believes me."

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[benjipwns]

stupid AP Bio's ratings have leveled out, might get renewed

I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon it like the crashing of a thousand waves!

[TVC15]

stupid AP Bio's ratings have leveled out, might get renewed

I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon it like the crashing of a thousand waves!

It really needs more of an ensemble cast. There’s good stuff in there. I also love the look of the show. Very classy for a sitcom.

But yeah, The Mick is fucking curbstomping it.

[Tasty]

The Mick is good?

[TEEEPO]

the mick is very good

[Tasty]

Nice. I love Kaitlin Olson. Dee is my fave Always Sunny char, lol.

[Valkyrie]

Santa Clarita Diet is such a great guilty pleasure. The second season dropped today and I'm already halfway through. Gonna be stuck with that "wtf do I do now" feeling when I finish watching it tomorrow.

[Stoney Mason]

stupid AP Bio's ratings have leveled out, might get renewed

I have contained my rage for as long as possible, but I shall unleash my fury upon it like the crashing of a thousand waves!

I watched the pilot episode and didn't like it one bit...


I hate watched Santa Clarita Diet first season. I'll probably get around to the second season although I'll try to be more polite with my hate since I know some people like that show.

The Mick is a fun dumb trashy sitcom. It's fine.

[BlueTsunami]

Started up Hap and Leonard on a whim. Was into the first episode, felt like a typical southern buddies show then the final part of the episode happened and I was like what the fuck. Some heightened reality here like you'd see in a R* game.

[Stro]

Not surprised this season of The X-Files is book-ended by complete and utter dog shit 

[Momo]

The Mick is good?

I really liked the first season, but the setup grows stale for me, Good Place really ruined it for me, I expect comedies to keep things fresh now.

[chronovore]

Started up Hap and Leonard on a whim. Was into the first episode, felt like a typical southern buddies show then the final part of the episode happened and I was like what the fuck. Some heightened reality here like you'd see in a R* game.

I very much enjoyed the whole first season. I haven’t got around the second one yet, but I plan to. The aacting is quite good, and as you said there is a lot of slightly off reality happening.

[warcock]

Paul giammatti is a top tier actor. Maybe i should catch up s2.

Anything foreign or on netflix good?

[Momo]

Damian Lewis has a tiny, tiny mouth.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Billions is the most entertaining dumb show on television. Some of the plotlines are mindbogglingly stupid, but it's so goddamn fun to watch.

Glad that season 3 is going to be about the rise of Bobby Billions Jr.

That's what really bothered me about s4 - it felt like a lot of the episodes were cobbled together from concepts and ideas from previous seasons. The 'abuse of an unwillingly subservient copy of ones consciousness' USS Callister was done in the Christmas special, and I felt like the themes of Hang the DJ were better done in San Junipero.

Honestly though, the worst episode of season 4 was the one of the yearly Wipe we didn't get as a result of CB being caught up with the show

At least we are finally getting this.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Barry was pretty funny. I cracked up when they cut to his scene partner during the reading and realized what scene he was gonna read.

[warcock]

Damian Lewis has a tiny, tiny mouth.

You fuck, i can't unsee. This should be a bannable offense 10 times over. Every fucking scene now. Its like the dude became rich to overcompensate. Fuck.

[chronovore]

 I just finished season two of Ash versus Evil Dead. The penultimate episode was better than the final one. It was like a beautiful return to ED2, with some Army of Darkness thrown in. Little continuity nods were appreciated.  I also was happy to see Ivan Raimi get so much screen-time. The final ep had less internal consistency and some missed opportunities in the dialog and twists. Still better than s1.

[Stro]

I just finished season two of Ash versus Evil Dead. The penultimate episode was better than the final one. It was like a beautiful return to ED2, with some Army of Darkness thrown in. Little continuity nods were appreciated.  I also was happy to see Ivan Raimi get so much screen-time. The final ep had less internal consistency and some missed opportunities in the dialog and twists. Still better than s1.

Despite enjoying seasons 1/2 of Ash vs Evil Dead, I'm still of the mind that I'd have preferred a movie to multiple seasons of a show. Or a continuation of the reboot version, which was fucking great. Maybe they'll bring Jane Levy onto the show or something.

[Momo]

I like Ash, but yeah it gets too much, would have preferred two movies over the seasons.

[Stoney Mason]

I watched the second season of Santa Clarita Diet...

Look I get it. And I also watch plenty of shows that people would crap on me for watching and enjoying. So I won't overly throw stones.

It took me awhile to get a comparison show for Santa Clarita Diet but I put on my old man hat and the best comparison is Bewitched. 

You know how in bewitched you knew within 3 minutes of every episode exactly what was gonna happen every beat of the episode. Remember how in bewitched every character was defined by like one characteristic. So Gladys Kravitz's sole purpose on the show was to be a nosy busybody. And you know how in bewitched no matter how fucked up the situation looked like you knew you were 5 minutes away from whatever Deus ex machina the writers cobbled together. And you know how when you watched bewitched you may have secretly thought to yourself, ya know.. I think I could write something like this at about this quality level.

That is Santa Clarita Diet. And the most interesting thing I think about the show is that someone has employed that style of show in 2018. Not saying that's necessarily an awful thing, just that its kind of rare for modern television.

I probably only really liked the

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episode and the finale episode just because it ends in such a ridiculous manner. The rest was meh to somewhat groan inducing. But like I said I've watched plenty of meh and groan inducing tv in my time that was enjoyable enough. So while Santa Clarita still remains mostly a hatewatch kind of show for me, its not painful to watch or anything. 

edit: after doing some googling and seeing some reviews my bewitched hot take isn't original. 

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/03/27/santa-clarita-diet-season-2-addams-family

[Momo]

[Stoney Mason]

I'm not sure I can handle expanse on drip feed when I was able to binge two seasons...

I guess I gotta suck it up

[Momo]

I'm not sure I can handle expanse on drip feed when I was able to binge two seasons...

I guess I gotta suck it up

Watching it week to week is like going through 7 days of cocaine and sugar withdrawal all at the same time

[Brehvolution]

Anyone watch the Roseanne reboot last night? Laughed my ass off. It was like they never stopped.

[Momo]

[Stro]

Anyone watch the Roseanne reboot last night? Laughed my ass off. It was like they never stopped.

Yeah, it was pretty good. I was kind of thrown how it seemed like they were playing to the studio audience more than the original run, and how the lighting was more modern sitcomy, but it was pretty funny and enjoyable, which is about 1000% better than any traditional sitcom in 15 years. Loooooled at hearing the audience bristle at the first Hillary joke not knowing how to react to it.

I wonder how many think pieces there will be about Roseanne being a Trump supporter who makes fun of liberals yet has a mixed granddaughter and gender...something grandson she loves. Jackie getting mind fucked into voting for Jill Stein 

[Brehvolution]

I never got the vibe that she was portraying a trump supporter. More anti Hillary. I liked that they poked fun at pretty much everybody.

[Stro]

She's a Trump supporter in real life and on the show. It was about as explicitly clear as could be in the first ep without mentioning names, but Roseanne announced ahead of time that the character of Roseanne would be a Trump supporter on the show. The whole basis of the Jackie/Roseanne feud was Roseanne being a Trump supporter.

[CatsCatsCats]

I watched the first episode and it seemed to very much be Roseanne