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[Mupepe]

I watched Breaking Bad Season 4 over the weekend. 

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I was kinda pissed because the whole season I've been watching Walt finally fucking get what he deserves.  His paranoid, psycho ass was finally getting what was coming to him.  He could have just left alone and been fine but the dude is truly a psycho.  Jesse was finally normal and getting his life together and that dipshit fucks him hard.  Jesus.  And Gus!  GUS!!

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What do you guys think the fifth season is going to be about?

[Barry Egan]

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I know I shouldn't expect the obvious, but I think a large part of the 5th season will be about the power vacuum left after both Gus and the cartel have been wiped off the map.  It will follow Walt's conflict over whether he should take advantage and essentially become a king pin or returning to his older life.  Which will be impossible for him.  So he makes millions and millions of dollars for a little while and then Hank figures everything out and shoots Walt point blank in his stupid fucking face. ::fingers crossed::

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[Mupepe]

God I would fucking love that. 

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Walt is a greedy fuck and enjoys the life.  No doubt about that.  I could see him trying to be Kingpin but I doubt he'd last long.  He's very careless when it comes to a lot of his moves.  While his most diabolical plots have been meticulously plotted, he has gotten by on the power of his formula and stupid luck a lot of the time.  Motherfucker better be going down in the 5th season.

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[Mupepe]

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Because he's a fucking douchebag. 

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[Mupepe]

On Walt's side?  Really?  REALLY? 

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Him poisoning the child shows exactly what's wrong with Walt.  He is a psychopath through and through.  He doesn't care about anyone.  Season 4 and 5 have done a fantastic job of showing how much his lines about "everything I've done I've done for my family" and shit is just bullshit.  He's an egotistical, paranoid, greedy, jealous and petty motherfucker.  He's an absolutely terrible person.  Entertaining as hell to watch, but completely unlikeable (outside of a few choice lines like your boss is going to need me and I'm the one knocking on the door or whatever).  He'll throw anyone under the bus as soon as they become disposable.  He has no loyalty towards Jesse.  He just controls Jesse.  A loyal crony is indispensable.  That's why Jesse hasn't bit the bullet yet.  The minute he can no longer control Jesse is when he dies.

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However, because of the reasons in my rant I also have to say that Breaking Bad probably has the BEST character development I've seen on a show in a long, long time. 

[Mupepe]

"Your boss is gonna need me" is the most badass line Walt has said so far.

Just wait until "I.T.O.W.K."

Yes!  That was the line.  So fucking badass.  She should have blown him after that line.

[Barry Egan]

if you like Walt and forgive him for the strategies he employs, but think his wife is a total bitch, than you're objectively kind of a d-bag.  Not aimed at anyone, just a general observation.   

[BlueTsunami]

Been marathoning through Doctor Who and I think it just gets better and better. So far I think Season 3 is the best but I've just now started Season 4 which started off kinda weak with the whole Galactic nanny shite. The second episode was amazing though. One of the standouts for me in Season 3 was "Human Nature", I was also surprised to see the actor who played Viserys in Game of Thrones in it.

[Mupepe]

I hated Skyler before Season 4.  She was just annoying (not that she was wrong).  But she was on a fucking roll in season 4.

[Momo]

Only watched part one, but it's really good so far. Cant wait to see what crazy  shit happens in story 2 and 3

[Mupepe]

Yeah I'm watching Part 2 tonight.  I can't fucking wait. 

[Phoenix Dark]

Walt is a pos

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I think people defend him in part because he isn't on the level of someone like Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey, etc, but make no mistake the man is selfish to a point of near sociopathic levels. It's hard to not think S5 will be his ultimate downfall where we see Walt as he truly is

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[Philip Cardgage]

Re: Dexter Season Finale.

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This season has just been such a mess, to Lost proportions. Why introduce the preacher for half the season, kill him off and have their relationship have little to no impact? What the fuck was the point of all the religious overtones? What the fuck was the point of having the evidence hand through half the season, see it in the finale only to never be referred to again?

I think the show is hitting the Superman syndrome, where to compensate for their lack of plot foresight, they just make Dexter an idiot. Like mentioned earlier, why the fuck would he go to an ACTIVE CRIME SCENE TO STAGE HIS KILL? This whole season he's just been doing stupid shit because the writers just don't give a fuck anymore and it really shows.

I think I'm done with this show. I can handle True Blood being dumb, but not a show like Dexter.

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[Momo]

Yeah I'm watching Part 2 tonight.  I can't fucking wait. 

I'll be viewing 2 and 3 at work since I really have not much to do there over the xmas period

[Mupepe]

Walt is a pos

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I think people defend him in part because he isn't on the level of someone like Tony Soprano, Vic Mackey, etc, but make no mistake the man is selfish to a point of near sociopathic levels. It's hard to not think S5 will be his ultimate downfall where we see Walt as he truly is

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I think he's as bad as Tony.  Tony doesn't pretend to be someone else and insist he's done nothing wrong.  He mostly knows he's a piece of shit.  He's just charismatic and manipulative enough to continue fooling everyone.  He also makes sincere efforts to change throughout the series (though he fails).  Walt doesn't even admit to himself he's a piece of shit and makes no apologies for his actions.  Tony at least shows genuine remores on a regular basis.

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Everything he did he did for his family, and in the end episode he did what was necessary in order to get Gustavo while saving Hank and Jesse in the process.

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[Enl]

Re: Dexter Season Finale.

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This season has just been such a mess, to Lost proportions. Why introduce the preacher for half the season, kill him off and have their relationship have little to no impact? What the fuck was the point of all the religious overtones? What the fuck was the point of having the evidence hand through half the season, see it in the finale only to never be referred to again?

I think the show is hitting the Superman syndrome, where to compensate for their lack of plot foresight, they just make Dexter an idiot. Like mentioned earlier, why the fuck would he go to an ACTIVE CRIME SCENE TO STAGE HIS KILL? This whole season he's just been doing stupid shit because the writers just don't give a fuck anymore and it really shows.

I think I'm done with this show. I can handle True Blood being dumb, but not a show like Dexter.

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WTF was the point of bringing in his brother as the Dark Passenger only to negate it an episode later.
WTF was the point of Travis having a split personality only to get rid of that part the moment of the reveal.
WTF was the point of Quinn or the new detective this season?

Yeah Dexter has some pretty terrible, unimaginative writers which is unfortunate because the show has such a great character to develop and experiment with. It seems like every time they attempt to try to break the mold they immediately get scared and revert back to the normal formula an episode later. With the Deb thing it wouldn't surprise me if the next season began with a recap of the previous season and the moment Dexter says "Oh God" it fades to black and a title card pops up "One Year Later". Or it will have Deb passing out and Dexter waking her up, trying to convince her it was all a dream.

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[Mupepe]

I wouldn't say I like or would defend Walt, but I understand him and can almost respect him for surviving and taking on situations way over his head.

Skyler does things without thinking, but on the last season she completely redeemed herself a time or two -- with one obvious STUPID AS HELL move.

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seriously, Walt wanted to get his family and bounce! Only reason he had to do his crazy ass scheme is Skyler blew their safety net on her fuck buddy boss mistake

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See I can understand why Skyler did what she did.  I can't understand most decisions Walt makes because (and especially in Season 4) he could have been just fine if he had never fucking made them.  He gets himself into trouble almost on purpose.  Homeboy loves drama.  Skyler just made a hasty decision to get herself out of a jam and it backfired.

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[Mupepe]

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Oh it was definitely a really stupid decision.  No doubt.  But like I said, I can see why she did it.  There's little reason why Walt does anything that he does.  Homeboy is having a helluva midlife crisis and destroying his life and the lives of everyone he knows in the process.

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[Mupepe]

 

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fuck you.  What about Gale?  Homeboy didn't do anything.  I hated how he kept painting Gus as someone out of control and ready to kill them all in a split second.  The only one that saw through his bullshit was Mike.  The ending better be Mike going ballistic and killing them all.

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[Cindi Mayweather]

I find it hilarious how people call Skylar a bitch and try to find any excuse possible for Walt's behavior. Yeah, raping your wife is pretty excusable. But a wife who calls her husband out on his shit? Pretty inexcusable! What a bitch! Not that Skylar isn't without her problems, but fuck, the Breaking Bad fanbase is atrocious.

[CajoleJuice]

The guy on Walt's side is the dude who beat the shit out of some kid for making him spill his soda.

[Mupepe]

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I feel like Walts reasoning is perfectly clear. He started cooking to leave something for his family, assuming he was going to die soon. Now he gets in too deep, no way to get out alive unless those with his life and his family's lives in their hands are taken out. You might not agree with what he does buts it's pretty obvious at this point he needed to do what he has done to not end up dead and to keep anyone in his family from dying! I'm not saying he's a hero, but Gus would have killed him and possibly his family as soon as it was viable for him.

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See I think this is where we differ completely.  He could have left it alone a long ways back but he has been prodding at Gus for a long time.  I think it's obvious at this point that Walt is an egotistical maniac who put emotion above everything else and put himself and his family in danger.  He's wanted a reason to take down Gus for a while.  We'll find out who is right when we see whether he tries to be kingpin or whether he tries to leave the life.

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[Mupepe]

The guy on Walt's side is the dude who beat the shit out of some kid for making him spill his soda.

Well said.

[Mupepe]

I never said anything Walt did was excusable, but the fact is the shit he's pulled has kept him and his family alive.

If Gale were alive, Walt wouldn't be.

And why did Walt put Gus in the position to make that decision?  Because Walt is a dumbass.  What kind of business do these people think they're in?  Quit being so fucking crazy.  He could have shut the fuck up and earned his money like Jesse tried to do.  But as MJ says "Wanna be startin something.  He got to be startin somethin"

Walt is a drama queen who doesn't want to be talked down to by anyone or told what to do by anyone.  He hates the idea that he's not unique.  Also in his little speech to Skyler "Without me a company large enough to be on Nasdaq ceases to exist".  He wants to be the center of the universe.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Walt and Jesse are both dumbasses but I reserve my hate for Jesse.

Have yet to watch season 4. Will marathon.

[Mupepe]

Walt and Jesse are both dumbasses.

Have yet to watch season 4. Will marathon.

Jesse isn't quite as big of a dumbass in Season 4.  He actually turns into a decent character

[Cindi Mayweather]

The thing about Jesse is why the fuck won't the kid just quit the game he's not suitable for, enroll in a college, and turn his life around? I can't stand him. At least Walt had initial reasons for getting into it. Jesse after the death of his beau is a character who deserves no sympathy.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Walt is a drama queen who doesn't want to be talked down to by anyone or told what to do by anyone.  He hates the idea that he's not unique.  Also in his little speech to Skyler "Without me a company large enough to be on Nasdaq ceases to exist".  He wants to be the center of the universe.

Nailed it.

[Barry Egan]

The thing about Jesse is why the fuck won't the kid just quit the game he's not suitable for, enroll in a college, and turn his life around? I can't stand him. At least Walt had initial reasons for getting into it. Jesse after the death of his beau is a character who deserves no sympathy.

You'll be eating those words when you watch season 4! 

[Mupepe]

Your explanation doesn't say why I should like him though.  I think he's badass.  Don't get me wrong.  I always yell OH SHIT when he pulls off something badass but I do hate him and I want him to die.  He causes more suffering than the people he's fighting against.  He's had so many opportunities to drop it and live the good life but he always fucks it up by being a stupid shit.  By the middle of the third season it was clear that the problem in everyone's life was Walt. 

Edit: For example, say some guy is broke and decides to rob an old lady.  Granny says "nuh uh" and pulls out a hand cannon but homeboy kills her first.  I can see why the dude did it.  It was him or her at that point.  But still fucking hate him and he's still a douchebag because hey, he could have like not robbed the old lady right?  THE DOUCHEBAG IS WALT

[Flannel Boy]

but how can you honestly expect him to be moral and just?

Someone's been smoking some blue meth.

[Cindi Mayweather]

To be fair dude, life IS pretty dramatic when you have cancer and cook meth

I'm not saying Walt is a good person or doing the right thing, but to act like what he's done is insane is silly when your instinct to survive will over come any social norms. This is a desperate man backed into a corner. Can't argue he didn't put himself there, but how can you honestly expect him to be moral and just? This is what makes breaking bad such an amazing piece of character development and why Cranston keeps winning awards. People who don't like Walt may be rejecting a bit of truth about humanity in my small and humble opinion.

The man raped his wife, killed people, got his son drunk in a dick waving contest, cut off people that were trying to help him, and repeatedly lied to his family/wife. Every thing he does in the series is due to his own pathetic desire to be unique or "right" to overcome his frail state as being less than a man.

Walt is a sad, selfish little shell of a man. He's a great character, but stop making excuses for him, as badass as he (sometimes) is.

[Mupepe]

Yup yup.  Himumu nailed it.  He's smart, entertaining and badass.  No doubt about that.  But he's a terrible person who put himself in the position that he is despite the forgivings of other characters time after time.  Walt is that alcoholic relative that keeps ruining Christmas and always promises to be better.

[Mupepe]

When did Walt rape his wife? I can't remember some of the events of previous seasons.

First season (I believe) in their kitchen.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Every thing bad that happens to Walt and Jesse is their own fault. Jesse, for instance is a dumbass. Just let it go. DON'T GO AFTER GUS' MEN. But nope.

And then in the end, it's Walt who kills them. Fuck.

Idiotic Duo.

[Mupepe]

Trust me, Jesse redeems himself in Season 4.  Watch it Himumu!!!

[Barry Egan]

To be fair, its only an attempted rape!  But that type of shit is exactly why it boggles my mind when people make excuses for Walt but can't seem to forgive his wife for being naggy or annoying.  Given the circumstances it makes sense that she's vindictive.  Her husband is ruining her life.

[Flannel Boy]

That would be pretty anti-climactic.

[Mupepe]

I kinda hope they all die except Walt Jr.  It ends with Saul knocking on a hotel door room and a sad Walt Jr answers and Saul is smiling cracking jokes, lightening the mood and then when Walt Jr isn't laughing or anything he says "Well look kid, your dad was a pretty wealthy guy.  He left you this (hands Walt Jr a duffel bag filled with cash).  I know things are looking bad but there's always an upside.  I can hold onto this for you and when you need some money you just come pick it up. For a small fee of course."  While Walt Jr is looking through the bag he finds a notebook and inside is Walt's formula for the blue meth.  That's how it ends.  If you're a pessimist you can believe that Walt Jr decided to make it and Walt ruined his kid's life from beyond the grave or you can believe homeboy is chilling in costa rica while hispanic sluts rust proof his crutches in bikinis.

[Phoenix Dark]

How is Skylar stupid? Walt is supposed to be some nobel quality genius yet doesn't know he needs to launder his fucking money, considering he had no legitimate form of income to explain his expenses?

Breaking Bad would be like one season if it Lester Freemon was in the ABQPD. I love the show but Walt's dumbass should have been caught ages ago

[Beezy]

How to Make it in America got cancelled along with Hung and Bored to Death. All average to meh shows.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118047762

[Mupepe]

How is Skylar stupid? Walt is supposed to be some nobel quality genius yet doesn't know he needs to launder his fucking money, considering he had no legitimate form of income to explain his expenses?

Breaking Bad would be like one season if it Lester Freemon was in the ABQPD. I love the show but Walt's dumbass should have been caught ages ago

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She's stupid for cooking Ted's books.  She's stupid for sending him the money to try to fix it.  The smartest thing she did was have Saul's homeboys go to make him send the check.  But either way, it was something she should have talked to Walt about first.

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I'm not saying she's completely stupid.  I'm saying she made stupid decisions.

[Eric P]

How to Make it in America got cancelled along with Hung and Bored to Death. All average to meh shows.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118047762

bored to death is amazing if you're white.

[Mr. Gundam]

I love Bored to Death. How to Make it in America never did anything for me.

[ZephyrFate]

Every thing bad that happens to Walt and Jesse is their own fault. Jesse, for instance is a dumbass. Just let it go. DON'T GO AFTER GUS' MEN. But nope.

And then in the end, it's Walt who kills them. Fuck.

Idiotic Duo.

Season 4 was pretty much the first time I actually started to like the show. It's a damn good season of TV, and they suddenly stop being such fucking idiots.

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Homeland finale was godly until they decided drop in the amnesia hook for S2. Ugh.

[Mupepe]

Every thing bad that happens to Walt and Jesse is their own fault. Jesse, for instance is a dumbass. Just let it go. DON'T GO AFTER GUS' MEN. But nope.

And then in the end, it's Walt who kills them. Fuck.

Idiotic Duo.

Season 4 was pretty much the first time I actually started to like the show. It's a damn good season of TV, and they suddenly stop being such fucking idiots.

Yes. This.  I found the show entertaining before it but I didn't genuinely like what was going on.  I was curious more than anything.  It was intriguing.  But in Season 4 they all break out of their stereotypes and develop as characters.  It's glorious.  It's definitely some of the best writing I've ever seen in a TV show

[Phoenix Dark]

So I started Mad Men, a show I watched a bit of with my brother when it first came out but never kept up with. Pretty good so far, with the second episode being especially good. It really reminded me of a point Tony makes multiple times in The Sopranos: the idea of the "strong silent type" who has no feelings. I've heard my mom and grandmother, and many other older people, claim ADHD and other mental or developmental disorders must have magically appeared relatively recently because they didn't exist "back in the day." Obviously that's not the case.

Also the casual sexism in the show is pretty hilarious

[ZephyrFate]

Mad Men is an incredible slow burner of a show. Paying attention to all the threads coming together with each season finale is just addictive.

[Momo]

Finished Black Mirror, the last two although very good disappointed me. Would have preferred a real world setting like the first part.

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Just wait till you get to the casual racism PD!

[chronovore]

Supernatural

So much fun!!!

That's the conclusion I've been coming to as well. There's not a single scary thing about the show, but the brothers are good company, and it's funny.

[Mupepe]

So I started Mad Men, a show I watched a bit of with my brother when it first came out but never kept up with. Pretty good so far, with the second episode being especially good. It really reminded me of a point Tony makes multiple times in The Sopranos: the idea of the "strong silent type" who has no feelings. I've heard my mom and grandmother, and many other older people, claim ADHD and other mental or developmental disorders must have magically appeared relatively recently because they didn't exist "back in the day." Obviously that's not the case.

Also the casual sexism in the show is pretty hilarious

Yeah I always found it funny how my Dad and Grandfather would talk about all these "new" conditions and how men used to just shut up and be strong while my grandfather used to be an abusive alcoholic and my dad had to see therapists twice a week for his various conditions. 

[Barry Egan]

Remember that character in True Grit who would randomly Caw like a rooster and do various animal impressions?

that's how men behaved before therapy.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I just made it to the second season of Californication. What a fucking great show.

I love Marcy Runkel 

[OptimoPeach]

Homeland finale was godly until they decided drop in the amnesia hook for S2. Ugh.

Pretty much. My only other complaint is

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Abu Nazir just going along with everything from Brody without a hint of skepticism (and while we're at it, why wasn't infiltration rather than assassination the goal from the start if it's the better option?) and then also spontaneously having Walker killed. Felt like some corner cutting there.

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[ZephyrFate]

watching Terriers again. SOgood.gif

Best one-season show ever.

[BlueTsunami]

Series 5 Doctor Who has the best female partner (Karen Gillan) but I'm still unsure about Matt Smith as the doctor but that's probably due to how awesome David Tennant was.

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Squeeeeeeee. She totally has all the potential beauty a Scottish woman can exhibit. 'Dat hair!

[CajoleJuice]

watching Terriers again. SOgood.gif

Best one-season show ever.

YES

fuck Freaks and Geeks and Firefly

[Eric P]

American Horror Story's ending was absolutely insane.  I loved every stupid minute of it.