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I think I'm in love with Amber Lambs's disinterest.
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AMBER LAMPS >:(

old.  I remember posting that and Beezy laughing at it.
I'm pretty sure I didn't laugh at that and said that the parents are shitty.
I think you did both!
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I agree with the people who are saying that Winslet's boobs in 3D will be pretty awesome.
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i have a few friends who are into suspension

they say it's a rush and a totally unique experience, but i see that whole segment of the population as treating sex like it were an extreme sport

basically like fuck tourists

The thing with this is: aren't you going to have giant scars all over your back? And what if one of the hooks rips? Fuck, if one rips, they'll probably all rip, right?

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I agree with the people who are saying that Winslet's boobs in 3D will be pretty awesome.
PEPPERONI NIPPLES!  :yuck

I'd still hit that, though.  :-*
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I agree with the people who are saying that Winslet's boobs in 3D will be pretty awesome.
PEPPERONI NIPPLES!  :yuck

I'd still hit that, though.  :-*
They're not even that big!  And you're missing out on the best ethnicities.  What the hell is wrong with you??

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i have a few friends who are into suspension

they say it's a rush and a totally unique experience, but i see that whole segment of the population as treating sex like it were an extreme sport

basically like fuck tourists

The thing with this is: aren't you going to have giant scars all over your back? And what if one of the hooks rips? Fuck, if one rips, they'll probably all rip, right?

possibly, yes, and yes.

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lol so "boy" is a fucking racist term? at this pace America is going to devolve into a sing language society.
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lol so "boy" is a fucking racist term? at this pace America is going to devolve into a sing language society.

It's not a racist term, but it has a racist history.

"Fetch my stick, boy."

It harkens back to slavery times and pre-civil rights era in America.
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With that logic, the term "fetch" and the word "stick" must also have a racist history.
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Are we seriously arguing that calling an adult black man "boy" isn't racist? Really?
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Historically, in countries such as the U.S. and South Africa, "boy" was not only a 'neutral' term for domestics but also used as a disparaging racist insult towards men of colour (especially of African descent), recalling their subservient status even after the 20th century legal emancipation (from slavery, evolved to race segregation, viz. Apartheid) and alleged infantility, and many still consider it offensive in that context to this day since it denotes that men of colour (especially of African descent) are less than men or no better than an animal. For example a simple command for a dog would be, "Come here boy!"

It has a pretty blatant racist connotation when leveled by a white person against a black man, I don't think one could make an argument against that.

I'm not going to call the white dude in that video racist though, I'll leave that to GAF. I'm too ashamed to defend that black guy
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Are we seriously arguing that calling an adult black man "boy" isn't racist? Really?

It's as racist as calling any adult man "boy". It's just offensive to MEN, regardless of skin color. The fact that white slave owners used the term to refer to slaves the same way as they did a dog is irrelevant; in fact, that highlights that the term has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with their status as livestock (during that era).
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The racist connotation popped into my head as well, but the white guy is 67 years old and he may've been calling the other guy "boy" with regard to his age.

I mean, the guy clearly ain't prejudice -- he'd even let a Chinaman spit-shine his shoes!
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Tons of older white dudes use the term boy without any racial context. 

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Yeah, "boy" and "kid" are thrown around by older people all the time. I have a friend who is 34-years-old and when he works on set, the line producer calls him "that boy" all the time - which aggravates the hell out of him. But not because he thinks it's racially motivated.

(P.S. This person is not white.)
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Are we seriously arguing that calling an adult black man "boy" isn't racist? Really?

It's as racist as calling any adult man "boy". It's just offensive to MEN, regardless of skin color. The fact that white slave owners used the term to refer to slaves the same way as they did a dog is irrelevant; in fact, that highlights that the term has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with their status as livestock (during that era).

Anyone of any color can call another man boy - except it wasn't commonly done except by white men towards black men, with or without malice.
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Seriously Willco?
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PD's right on this.

It's not always said with racist intent, but there's a VERY strong racial connotation attached to it in the US.  Does anyone live in this country and not know that?

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Lots of white old men (and women) call black men "boy" and they know exactly what they mean by it and do it on purpose. It's what they were raised with and it's meant to be a term of derision.

There are of course old white men who may mean nothing by it and refer to all younger people with it.

It can go either way but let's just say when an old white man uses the term with me, I tend to believe they know exactly what they are doing and the context they are using it in.

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I completely disagree that it has a racial connotation, especially since the term was used to emasculate well before (and after) slavery, and its context for use during slavery was not racist, but as a description of subservient individuals in general. It has ties to slavery, but that doesn't make it a racial slur - any more than "Jew".
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I completely disagree that it has a racial connotation, especially since the term was used to emasculate well before (and after) slavery, and its context for use during slavery was not racist, but as a description of subservient individuals in general. It has ties to slavery, but that doesn't make it a racial slur - any more than "Jew".

I want you to know I'm furiously googling "spit take gifs" right now.

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Maybe I'm just used to all the racism in the South.  But it's thrown around by older guys towards young folks all the time.  Including white supervisors to black dudes at work.

I dunno.  I know the connection (American History X "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, BOY") but I guess they make a bigger deal out of it outside the South?  Dunno.  It always seemed like the lightest of racial names.

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There are simply certain things that a member of one race can't say to members of another race; they may even have harmless, spur-of-the-moment intentions but some words are simply too dipped in racist history. I'm not talking about the n-word, that seems like a pretty obvious line in the sand (well for most people). Words like boy, uppity, or yellow for instance
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Hmm...a term used to emasculate a man and the belief that black males are lesser men.

No connection there!
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How about "You seem a little uppity.  You yellow, boy?"

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I'm sorry. There are obvious terms and racial slurs that are meant to be used in a derogatory manner. Don't we have enough racial slurs without trying to state that a term that was used to emasculate (is someone referring to a man as young and inexperience or feminine not been a long running insult throughout history?) is now racist.

Everything in context can be racist, that doesn't mean the phrase itself is racist.
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Hmm...a term used to emasculate a man and the belief that black males are lesser men.

No connection there!

So it's only racist when used to insult black men, but just insulting when used to insult other men. Got it.
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Phoenix Dark

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Hmm...a term used to emasculate a man and the belief that black men don't deserve equal status.

No connection there!

clearly that wasn't racist during slavery!

that's a pretty steep slippery slope Willco
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Maybe I'm just used to all the racism in the South.  But it's thrown around by older guys towards young folks all the time.  Including white supervisors to black dudes at work.

I dunno.  I know the connection (American History X "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, BOY") but I guess they make a bigger deal out of it out of the South?  Dunno.  It always seemed like the lightest of racial names.

Everything is a bigger deal in the South mainly because that's the home base where a lot of the nasty racism and prejudicial behavior still happens.

Not every person who uses it, intent is to start burning crosses but in a work environment any person with a brain probably shouldn't be referring to people as "boy" unless he is damn good friends with the person in question.

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Okay, let's just clear this up, if I was in the white guy's shoes in the video, I would have called him boy too.  I SAID IT!

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The point I'm trying to make is calling a man "boy" is insulting in general. I would not be happy if someone said it to me, and it's not because I'm secretly black.
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Everything in context can be racist, that doesn't mean the phrase itself is racist.

but using it in the same context as when it has racial overtones is
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Willco's doing an homage to the porch monkey bit from Clerks 2, maybe?

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Maybe I'm just used to all the racism in the South.  But it's thrown around by older guys towards young folks all the time.  Including white supervisors to black dudes at work.

I dunno.  I know the connection (American History X "THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, BOY") but I guess they make a bigger deal out of it out of the South?  Dunno.  It always seemed like the lightest of racial names.

Everything is a bigger deal in the South mainly because that's the home base where a lot of the nasty racism and prejudicial behavior still happens.

Not every person who uses it, intent is to start burning crosses but in work environment any person with a brain probably shouldn't be referring to people as "boy" unless he is damn good friends with the person in question.
But I'm saying it has never been a big deal in my experience in the South.  It's thrown around commonly here.  

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Okay, let's just clear this up, if I was in the white guy's shoes in the video, I would have called him boy too.  I SAID IT!

For what its worth I'm talking in the abstract. I didn't even watch that video and don't really care to. I have no real rooting interest in two jackballs fighting on a bus other than derision at both of them.

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but using it in the same context as when it has racial overtones is

"Boy" is used as insult. To men of all color. Just because black people got to hear it bandied about a lot by white slave owners that thought of them as subservient individuals, as they were purchased and bartered like property, does not mean it's racist. It's just insulting. It wasn't created to insult slaves for being black, it was used as a long-running term to emasculate men in general. It should be left at that.
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I didn't even know it was racist.

Plus I find it weird that all the racial slurs for arabs is basically the same for black people except they all start with something involving sand.

Our women are called Batman though, lucky bitches.

Sand boy!
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Racial slurs for Arabs on the part of white people are just lazy, to be honest.
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Take a step back.

You're arguing that the pejorative's origins in slavery is evidence against it carrying a racial subtext.  Think, mang.

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But I'm saying it has never been a big deal in my experience in the South.  It's thrown around commonly here.  

I was raised and grew up in the South and I don't know a single black person who wouldn't be annoyed at being called "boy" in most contexts outside of joking ones.

Like I said my comment has nothing to do with that video. If two people are acting ignorant or if one person instigates something then those are separate contexts.

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No, I'm saying its origins are prior to slavery. Insulting one's manhood has been a long-running insult throughout history. It did not happen during slavery. It's not even used as a description of race!
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but using it in the same context as when it has racial overtones is

"Boy" is used as insult. To men of all color. Just because black people got to hear it bandied about a lot by white slave owners that thought of them as subservient individuals, as they were purchased and bartered like property, does not mean it's racist. It's just insulting. It should be left at that.

I don't know why you think it's context is exclusively slave-related, or just a vestige of when black people were property. It was used in the 20th century by whites to reinforce their superior status.
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But I'm saying it has never been a big deal in my experience in the South.  It's thrown around commonly here.  

I was raised and grew up in the South and I don't know a single black person who wouldn't be annoyed at being called "boy" in most contexts outside of joking ones.

Like I said my comment has nothing to do with that video. If two people are acting ignorant or if one person instigates something then those are separate contexts.
Maybe I just don't know enough black dudes :(

Oh well, I was really looking forward to calling everyone boy when I get older.  Damn.

I really don't think this term is common knowledge for a lot of white folks.  Older white guys just tend to like saying boy.  

This affirms my stance that communication is necessary for any relationship.  Including race relations.  Let's sit down and talk about this, guys.

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Cant you just agree that boy is also used as a racist remark on top of the fact that its also used as a general insult to men across all languages and cultures. In the Netherlands and Poland these words dont have any racist connotation but they still get used as insults.

I already said that any word can be racist in context. My argument was that does not necessarily make it racist. There are obvious racial slurs, created and used to refer to specific races or individuals in a derogatory manner. Then there's everything else.

But that's the politically correct society we live in.
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but using it in the same context as when it has racial overtones is

"Boy" is used as insult. To men of all color. Just because black people got to hear it bandied about a lot by white slave owners that thought of them as subservient individuals, as they were purchased and bartered like property, does not mean it's racist. It's just insulting. It should be left at that.

The problem is that this is not true. While calling a grown man a "boy" can be an insult regardless of races involved, it takes a more sinister and historically racist turn when used against a black man by a white man. As I said before, it's not even up for debate.

Sure some white people use it in a harmless manner, but as Stoney said in most cases they know exactly what they're saying. For instance, one of my friends is from Switzerland. If we're playing basketball sometimes he'll say something along the lines of "I'm too hot, you can touch me boiiii" like Flava Flav. I've known him for years, there's nothing racial about his intentions.

On the other hand I've been to Howell, Michigan a couple times and had the term leveled at me with a pretty blatant racial intention.

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Maybe I just don't know enough black dudes :(

Oh well, I was really looking forward to calling everyone boy when I get older.  Damn.

I really don't think this term is common knowledge for a lot of white folks.  Older white guys just tend to like saying boy.  

This affirms my stance that communication is necessary for any relationship.  Including race relations.  Let's sit down and talk about this, guys.

While we are very far beyond the bad old days, the South is sort of a different world from my experience. A lot of that stuff has been buried over but scratch right beneath it just a little bit and all that old bubbling shit comes right to the surface. I've lived in California and I've lived in the "South"  and comparatively its nite and day which is not to say that any place is perfect of course.

edit: And for what its worth not all the blame should go on whitey. I've seen a lot of negative ideas and non-constructive mindsets from black people themselves in the South especially.
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Maurice agrees with me that term is used to emasculate and that even in context of white-to-black use, it has to do with power and class, not race. This case should be closed!
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Well I think a lot of people here have heard their fathers and grandfathers use the term and they don't associate it with a race issue.  Maybe their father did.  But they pick it up from habit from them without the prejudiced nature.

My dad was very, very Southern.  He has a black daughter and loved her dearly.  But he picked up a lot of things.  He understood nigger is racist.  But nigger rig is a common term he picked up from my grandfather and he used to use it.  He wasn't racist.  The South is just... fucked up.

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No one is saying that an "atta' boy", or "boy am i tired" is racist, when it's used in place of Mister, Sir, etc. as an anti-honorific it is.
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Maurice agrees with me that term is used to emasculate and that even in context of white-to-black use, it has to do with power and class, not race. This case should be closed!
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No, I'm saying there are racial connotations when a white person uses the term against a black man, but I don't believe every white person who uses it has a racial intention in mind. I'm agreeing with Stoney saying usually, white people know exactly what they're doing/saying when it's uttered, and it's not hard to tell.
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