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eleuin · « **Reply #19080 on:** June 22, 2017, 07:46:53 PM »

rubio finally traded huh

oh shit nvm

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/878035498861723654

https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/878036501598175232

etiolate · « **Reply #19081 on:** June 22, 2017, 07:55:06 PM »

Should assume that Wade is gone as well.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19082 on:** June 22, 2017, 08:01:06 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on June 22, 2017, 07:55:06 PM

Should assume that Wade is gone as well.

Wade picked up his $24 million option a few days ago.

etiolate · « **Reply #19083 on:** June 22, 2017, 08:08:14 PM »

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #19084 on:** June 22, 2017, 08:29:43 PM »

lmao @ PJ falling asleep during draft workouts

etiolate · « **Reply #19085 on:** June 23, 2017, 03:28:22 AM »

fwiw

I love Fox on the Kings. Best fit for both. De'Aaron is easily one of the most likable guys of this draft.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19086 on:** June 23, 2017, 04:56:57 AM »

It's 5am and I woke up still disgusted with the Pistons draft.

etiolate · « **Reply #19087 on:** June 23, 2017, 07:41:33 PM »

The Pistons are going to go into rebuild mode after not having really built anything.

FStop7 · « **Reply #19088 on:** June 23, 2017, 07:52:14 PM »

non-baller dinos thru baby jesus = BC

baby jesus the original big baller thru 6/22/2017 = AD

6/23/17 til 4evah = BBBE

Sounds like both CP3 and Blake are opting out. They know LA is now too hot for them in the Big Baller Brand Era.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #19089 on:** June 23, 2017, 09:17:03 PM »

It's gotta be the shoes.

bluemax · « **Reply #19090 on:** June 23, 2017, 11:48:15 PM »

Is CP3 gonna turn down like $70 million to chase a ring in San Antonio?

I have no idea who would have the room to take on Blake. Plus you gotta wonder if you're getting 2015-2016 playoffs Griffin or injured all the time Blake Griffin.

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #19091 on:** June 24, 2017, 10:07:43 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 23, 2017, 11:48:15 PM

Is CP3 gonna turn down like $70 million to chase a ring in San Antonio?

I have no idea who would have the room to take on Blake. Plus you gotta wonder if you're getting 2015-2016 playoffs Griffin or injured all the time Blake Griffin.

You really don't lol

El Babua · « **Reply #19092 on:** June 25, 2017, 01:18:47 AM »

He does a promo better than 95% of the roster.

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #19093 on:** June 25, 2017, 05:25:10 AM »

For fucking real. I'm completely for this shit. If you're gonna be the bad guy, lean into it. Say what you will about Lavar Ball, the dude is very media savvy (circa 2012)

I do hope this shit doesn't blow up in Lonzo's face. He has some insurmountable expectations to live up to (make the Lakers not only not an embarrassing team to root for/watch, but make them actually good) so I wonder if he's gonna be fucked either way.

Sidenote; I never thought I'd come to love Phil Jackson, but it warms my bitter little heart to know that someone in New York actually hates the Knicks more than I do. Fuck the Knicks.

etiolate · « **Reply #19094 on:** June 26, 2017, 09:10:55 PM »

Lavar Ball is the Chappelle skit for Black Trump

FStop7 · « **Reply #19095 on:** June 27, 2017, 09:37:15 AM »

The GAF salt over Westbrook getting MVP.

The NBA threads are so stacked with Celtics and Rockets homers.

etiolate · « **Reply #19096 on:** June 28, 2017, 08:53:56 AM »

Woj reporting that Phil Jackson is getting fired.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19097 on:** June 28, 2017, 10:12:09 AM »

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Sources told ESPN that Jackson had been upset with Porzingis' actions and was trying to teach him a lesson in professionalism this summer.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19098 on:** June 28, 2017, 10:58:05 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #19099 on:** June 28, 2017, 11:40:10 AM »

I still demand proof this wasn't a long con by Phil and Derek Fisher to steal unlimited millions from James Dolan.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19100 on:** June 28, 2017, 12:54:24 PM »

CP3 to the Rockets

FStop7 · « **Reply #19101 on:** June 28, 2017, 01:04:19 PM »

I guess the Harden at point experiment is over.

Feel bunmed for Patrick Beverley. He was the fire in the belly of the Rockets last season. Now he's basically banished to a Clips team that is probably entering tank mode.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19102 on:** June 28, 2017, 01:25:47 PM »

Quote from: Brian Windhorst

James Harden and Chris Paul have already started recruiting Paul George to the Houston Rockets.

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And, once their trade for Paul is official, Houston will try to acquire All-Star Paul George from the Indiana Pacers, sources told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19103 on:** June 28, 2017, 01:29:18 PM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #19104 on:** June 28, 2017, 01:32:57 PM »

remember that time DeAndre Jordan was going to sign with the Mavericks to play with Chandler Parsons who had left the Rockets but Paul and Griffin locked him in his house all day until he signed, now he's the last man standing?

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then Parsons bolted Dallas first chance he got too

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benjipwns · « **Reply #19105 on:** June 28, 2017, 04:53:32 PM »

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The Chicago Cubs were being honored for their epic World Series comeback over the Cleveland Indians, but you wouldn't know it by the way Gilbert became the center of the proceedings.

Trump made a few brief remarks to the Cubs in front of the press corps before he called out the Cavs' owner by name and extended an invitation to the team to join him for a tour of the Oval Office.

"Where's Dan? Where's Dan Gilbert?" Trump said as photographers snapped photos of the Cubs team standing next to the president and the Commissioner's Trophy in the Roosevelt Room. "He's right outside. Grab him. Where's Dan? Dan Gilbert just came in. He's from basketball. He's looking for a good basketball player. Anybody play basketball?"

Gilbert shouted back, "Yeah, we're looking for a couple guys."

As Gilbert made his way to the front of the room, someone cracked the joke, "It's tough for a guy from Cleveland," alluding to the Indians' loss to the Cubs.

"Come here, Dan," Trump said. "Come over here, Dan. Don't be shy. Do you want a good baseball player to play basketball?"

Then the president commented on the Cavs' loss to the Warriors.

"So, Dan owns the Cavaliers and I guess you can't say 'great' season, right?" Trump said. "'Good' season. Last year was a great season, right?"

Once Gilbert joined the group in the front of the room, Trump turned to Cubs skipper Joe Maddon and said, "So, ask him, how is he doing with LeBron (James)?"

James, of course, publicly stumped for Trump's opponent, Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, in the battleground state of Ohio.

Gilbert appeared uncomfortable being put on the spot and said simply, "Things are good."

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19106 on:** June 28, 2017, 05:06:39 PM »

fuck him

etiolate · « **Reply #19107 on:** June 28, 2017, 06:37:56 PM »

I'm going to enjoy the drama and hijinx of this NBA off-season until its over and we end up with superteams that make the league a waste of time.

bluemax · « **Reply #19108 on:** June 28, 2017, 11:21:14 PM »

I think the Clippers will be okay if they keep Blake Griffin.

If he goes then god only knows how bad they become.

etiolate · « **Reply #19109 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:15:49 AM »

I think the Clips should let Blake go and trade DJ for picks. They're asset cupboard is pretty low and Doc has Jamal Crawford signed into his Big Three career years.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19110 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »

Seems like the Kings have a nice core now, no Etoilet? Vlade falling into semi-success or am I misreading things.

etiolate · « **Reply #19111 on:** June 29, 2017, 12:52:03 PM »

When they traded Cousins, I ditched them.

Never trust that organization to do something right. They've stumbled into good things before and then screwed it up within a year. Their legacy is constantly rebuilding before they even built something. If the Sixers were The Process then the Kings are The Foundation Pit.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19112 on:** June 29, 2017, 03:42:17 PM »

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Melo willing to accept buyout to go to Cavs. Stephen A. Smith reports the latest regarding Carmelo Anthony's ongoing contract negotiations with the Knicks.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19113 on:** June 29, 2017, 05:16:59 PM »

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19758988/zach-lowe-chris-paul-james-harden-running-houston-rockets-nba

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CP3-Harden Rockets coming for Warriors juggernaut
Zach Lowe looks at what went wrong for the Clippers and whether Chris Paul can raise the Rockets' ceiling.

Stro · « **Reply #19114 on:** June 29, 2017, 10:23:25 PM »

CP3/Harden/PG13 doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Although Harden is the issue to me in any combination you have those three together.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19115 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:10:12 AM »

Mandark, why didn't you tell me Matt Taibbi tried to write an article explaining the NBA Draft: http://www.rollingstone.com/sports/features/taibbi-the-nba-draft-decoded-w489212

And to think how much I pay per month for your services.

bluemax · « **Reply #19116 on:** June 30, 2017, 03:22:55 AM »

Quote from: Stro on June 29, 2017, 10:23:25 PM

CP3/Harden/PG13 doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Although Harden is the issue to me in any combination you have those three together.

CP3/Harden is such a bad combo for compatibility reasons. Like Harden flourished when he got away from a ball dominant guard in Westbrook and now he's back to playing alongside another ball dominant guard. I'm kinda surprised that such an analytical org as the Rockets would do this.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19117 on:** June 30, 2017, 05:22:33 AM »

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Former Cavs GM David Griffin been in touch with the Knicks and will be among the franchise's initial interviews

why not

Fifstar · « **Reply #19118 on:** June 30, 2017, 08:53:32 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on June 30, 2017, 03:22:55 AM

Quote from: Stro on June 29, 2017, 10:23:25 PM
CP3/Harden/PG13 doesn't seem like a good fit to me. Although Harden is the issue to me in any combination you have those three together.

CP3/Harden is such a bad combo for compatibility reasons. Like Harden flourished when he got away from a ball dominant guard in Westbrook and now he's back to playing alongside another ball dominant guard. I'm kinda surprised that such an analytical org as the Rockets would do this.

They're both dominant, but they still have a very different playstyle, no? Seems to me that there was much more overlap in playstyle and abilities Westbrook and Harden than there is between Paul and Harden.

Of course it's still a gamble but unless teams are willing to risk something (and players like Harden are willing to change a bit) they won't stand a chance against the warriors or cavs in the next couple of years anyway.

etiolate · « **Reply #19119 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:44:07 PM »

Paul and Harden do have different styles, with both styles being ball dominant.

D'Antoni's system is its own style though and I'm not sure how many dominant ball handlers on the court at the same time it can accommodate. Don't know if one of them will just spot up shoot without the ball or what. Will it be 7 seconds or less or will it be 7 seconds unless Paul has the ball and wants to do called plays.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19120 on:** June 30, 2017, 02:15:11 PM »

Pelicans are going to give Jrue Holiday $170 million over five years.

They realize they have to pay Davis and Boogie right?

And the Gordon Hayward stuff is kinda weird to me. Part of me would sorta rather get say Milsap on three years for cheaper than get Hayward for a max contract. Guess it depends on what team.

Apparently the Nets are considering using one of those poison-pill style max offers on Otto Porter or KCP.

Blake apparently going to talk to Phoenix before the Clips. All the Clippers stories have this constant hinting about something involving Austin Rivers happening last season that I must have missed but did not please the vets.

etiolate · « **Reply #19121 on:** June 30, 2017, 03:53:24 PM »

I like Holiday and players like Holiday but he has major injury issues. If he had stayed healthy, he'd probably be in Mike Conley range.

Going to be crazy once it hits midnight est. The first contracts are always the overpaid middle tier guys that make everyone do spittakes.

etiolate · « **Reply #19122 on:** June 30, 2017, 04:39:33 PM »

The Chandler Parsons contract is pretty bad. Curious what the Grizz will do about it. It's not just that he's always hurt. I am not sure he's all that good anymore.

etiolate · « **Reply #19123 on:** June 30, 2017, 05:05:07 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/880889629402124289

https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/880894792321847296

Minny is obviously chasing a FA point guard then.

Mandark · « **Reply #19124 on:** June 30, 2017, 09:00:10 PM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 30, 2017, 02:15:11 PM

Pelicans are going to give Jrue Holiday $170 million over five years.

They realize they have to pay Davis and Boogie right?

A soft cap, Bird rights, and the Ajinca/Asik contracts basically paint them into that corner.

He's the only PG they'd be able to pay more than ~$11 million so there's no simple way to upgrade if they let him walk. Same dynamic as the Kanter and Tristan Thompson contracts.

etiolate · « **Reply #19125 on:** June 30, 2017, 09:52:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/880965916351229953

Well that changes things.

bluemax · « **Reply #19126 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:06:48 PM »

Blake back to the Clippers for the max. Now they need to get a bunch of wings who can shoot and defend.

So same as every year really.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19127 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:29:12 PM »

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Rockets reach an agreement with Nene on a four year, $15 million contract

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #19128 on:** June 30, 2017, 11:34:21 PM »

Paul George to OKC makes no goddamned sense

edit: reading Lowe's reaction to it, it still doesn't make sense to me. PG13 is just going to lose in the second round of the playoffs, again.

etiolate · « **Reply #19129 on:** July 01, 2017, 12:50:22 AM »

OKC turned Serge Ibaka into Paul George, so I wouldn't complain.

etiolate · « **Reply #19130 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:56:46 AM »

I don't see a point in the Clippers keeping it together, but I don't get to enjoy the playoff money that owners do.

Raptors are an interesting blow up potential. New Orleans would be in a great spot if they never did that Asik deal. The two best bigs in the league for any guard to pair with. But they blew money on Asik and a small forward I can't even name right now.

Denver has a lot of cap space and keeps trying to get a big name.

Boston and Ainge looking like a very lonely Scrooge McDuck

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #19131 on:** July 01, 2017, 12:43:33 PM »

Anyone want Andre Drummond? Anyone...

Let's Cyber · « **Reply #19132 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:09:28 PM »

Quote from: Kaffir The Reaper on July 01, 2017, 07:02:35 AM

The Timberwolves got Lowry...

etiolate · « **Reply #19133 on:** July 01, 2017, 01:17:04 PM »

I don't understand Phoenix going after Blake Griffin.

Maybe Boston settles for Drummond? That'd be hilarious.

benjipwns · « **Reply #19134 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:43:11 AM »

Wolves settled for Jeff Teague

benjipwns · « **Reply #19135 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:44:08 AM »

J.J. Redick headed to Sixers

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Free-agent forward Andre Iguodala has agreed to return to the Warriors on a three-year deal worth $48 million, sources told ESPN. He was also mulling multiyear offers from the Rockets, Spurs and Kings
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Golden State now has $130M in guaranteed contracts that include the three-year, $48M Andre Iguodala contract and $31.8M projected Kevin Durant salary. If the Warriors fill out their roster with minimum contracts their total salaries will be $137.5M with a luxury tax bill of $40.2M.

etiolate · « **Reply #19136 on:** July 02, 2017, 01:21:18 PM »

icee

Looks like the Raptors are retaining their team, but may have to dump a salary.

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #19137 on:** July 02, 2017, 05:45:26 PM »

I cannot wait until next may when Toronto gets swept in the second round again and pretends to reassess their situation only now they don't have valanciunas or Carroll and have to pay Lowry 30+ million a year until he's 34

etiolate · « **Reply #19138 on:** July 02, 2017, 05:58:52 PM »

IMPORTANT NEWS

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THERE ARE LAS VEGAS ODDS FOR LAS VEGAS SUMMER LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP

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etiolate · « **Reply #19139 on:** July 02, 2017, 11:03:15 PM »

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/881708946842689537

Interesting side bit of this off-season is Woj and Bobby Marks switching to ESPN, but Shams is getting a lot of news that used to be Wojbombs.

News:

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