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« Reply #4260 on: June 29, 2011, 10:57:37 PM »
bebpo said Last Story was good. I'd like to read his take on it. Outside of Tales games, me and Bebpo tend to see eye to eye on rpgs from time to time.
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« Reply #4261 on: June 29, 2011, 11:19:04 PM »
bebpo said Last Story was good. I'd like to read his take on it. Outside of Tales games, me and Bebpo tend to see eye to eye on rpgs from time to time.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25798852&postcount=554

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« Reply #4262 on: June 29, 2011, 11:58:11 PM »
It's a Nintendo of Japan published game, hence the big issue.

So was Ogre Battle 64. Those were better days.
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« Reply #4263 on: June 30, 2011, 12:19:58 AM »
Anyway, I've said before that I see why they aren't bothering with releasing these.  Given the Wii's position in the software market, I think these games would struggle to sell over 15k each, which is at worst a waste of money and at best a waste of time.

The problem is that it's become a bit of a snow ball. There's quite a few games now that NOJ published/funded/developed that NOA has totally ignored. When it was one or two games that no one really cared about it, it wasn't a big deal. But now it's 5-6 games, including some that people DO care about. It's reflecting poorly on the company, regardless of sales potential.

Now, that's not too big of a problem, because we're ultimately talking about a small group. But Nintendo's hardware sales are flagging and the casual market is getting more diluted thanks to Sony and Microsoft's incursion. Hence Nintendo trying to offer an olive branch to the hardcore crowd with the WiiU and it's better graphics and third-party support. This poses a two-fold problem: Nintendo, for the past several years, has developed very few games that the hardcore crowd has any interest in and NOA has refused to publish a number of titles that the hardcore gamers have some interest in.

Basically, Nintendo's own actions are exposing the hypocrisy of their olive branch. For all intents and purposes, they've gradually abandoned the hardcore crowd. Now that the casual crowd isn't throwing their money at Nintendo, Nintendo wants the hardcore crowd back and thinks that a halfhearted attempt will be enough. What they need to learn is what Microsoft had to learn: if you want the hardcore crowd in your back pocket, then you've got to spend a little money to gain their loyalty. Nintendo doesn't want to do that, or else hasn't learned that lesson.

Nintendo needs to spend some money, waste so money [if you want to call it that], by throwing the hardcore gamers a bone. Port over some Japanese games, develop some core-centric titles, give the hardcore crowd a reason to believe you're telling the truth about wanting them back.

But this is Nintendo, the company that still thinks this whole "online gaming" thing is just some fad that'll blow over in a year or two. Their idea of bringing the core crowd back revolves around a new iteration of Mario Kart and Zelda.
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« Reply #4264 on: June 30, 2011, 01:09:28 AM »
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« Reply #4265 on: June 30, 2011, 01:10:49 AM »
But not releasing these games?  That's business, hon.

And why I no longer have an interest in them.

Sin and Punishment 2 was more of a case of too little too late, I think. By June 2010 it was more than obvious that Nintendo had moved on, so the kind of people who would have bought it had as well. Late 2009? It probably would have done better, a little bit. But that's kind of beside the point. S&P 2 only showed Nintendo that the hardcore crowd was gone and not coming back. Which, yeah, feeds directly into them seeing no reason to release Xenoblade et al. But the thing is, S&P 2 was just the last bone, already stripped of meat, thrown to the pack of half-starved dogs. Too bad for Nintendo that most of the dogs were already dead.

One or two games here and there, halfheartedly tossed out as an afterthought, was never going to be enough, but Nintendo just doesn't seem to get that. Oh, you hardcore gamers want more games? Well, what do you think about MARIO KART?! It's really frustrating, because games like Xenoblade should have had a shot at decent sale if Nintendo hadn't so quickly dumped their long-time fans to run after grandma and her knitting circle.

So it's really more than just Xenoblade not being ported, it's what Xenoblade not being ported says about the way Nintendo has gone the past few years.

But, anyway. This is probably the most I've cared about Nintendo in a while. They've changed for the worse [at least, from my perspective] and that's really disappointing. I'll survive, since the release list for the remainder of the year is HOT, HOT, HOT and should keep me busy enough that I don't have to think or care about that tiny little void where an awesome Nintendo game should be.
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« Reply #4266 on: June 30, 2011, 01:25:17 AM »
So...how about the GAF, huh? It SUCKS!
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« Reply #4267 on: June 30, 2011, 01:35:49 AM »
I imported Disaster Day of Crisis

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« Reply #4268 on: June 30, 2011, 01:37:08 AM »
what the fuck im not gonna import something i live in america for fucks sake

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« Reply #4271 on: June 30, 2011, 02:58:19 AM »
This whole petition is desperate.

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« Reply #4272 on: June 30, 2011, 03:25:50 AM »
I just have a hard on for Zelda :(
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« Reply #4273 on: June 30, 2011, 03:44:29 AM »
Get a Wii and hack it
get a 360

36wii 4 life.
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« Reply #4274 on: June 30, 2011, 04:37:51 AM »
How does Nintendo still have hardcore fans after the last few years?

Do they just love Zelda that much?

Mario and Zelda for me (main line ones, of course). Those two are good enough to warrant a purchase of a Nintendo console imo. Then you get a 360 or PS3 for everything else. Dunno why people make a big deal, tbh.

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« Reply #4275 on: June 30, 2011, 04:40:31 AM »
If one were really inclined to be Nintendo-only, DS+ Wii tablescraps wouldn't have been entirely painful this gen.

I don't really understand any hardcore gamer who goes one system or one company only, though. 

Yeah i like having the option of all three consoles, though my Wii doesn't get much play nowadays my PS3 and 360 do.

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« Reply #4276 on: June 30, 2011, 04:56:50 AM »
Thanks man. I was a big South Park fan, although I haven't seen the last two seasons. Your name reminds me of that awesome hacker from Goldeneye.
This season has had some good episodes.

If one were really inclined to be Nintendo-only, DS+ Wii tablescraps wouldn't have been entirely painful this gen.

I don't really understand any hardcore gamer who goes one system or one company only, though. 
I did Wii-PC this gen because I couldn't really afford to do the other consoles at the time and the Wii stuff was very good for friends and roommates for the first few years.

I liked playing the good "waggle" like Order Up! or stuff like Boom Blox or Da Blob. Didn't mind many of the Nintendo "hardcore" (not that Mario or Kirby or Donkey Kong were ever "hardcore" before the last generation) titles either.

But I've always been mostly PC, with the consoles (PS1, N64, PS2, GCN) for stuff you couldn't also get on PC and this gen has seen way more console stuff coming out there. Borderlands, Just Cause 2, Saints Row 2, NBA 2K, Batman, Defense Grid, Valve, DICE, etc. just glancing at some of my Steam list were all on PC too. Most with 360 pad support. So the Wii had more stuff I couldn't get on PC if I wanted something different and I haven't exactly been blown away with demand for most of the console exclusives. I don't really mind coming late to the consoles and getting stuff cheap anymore, I bought an Xbox way late last gen for a few titles and XMBC and wound up getting a lot of post-gen life out of that. Other than multiplayer I don't feel I needed to be there on day one anyway, and I only play select multiplayer games in the first place.

Don't get the tribal stuff, as long as I'm getting enough games to play currently I know I can play the others later. It's probably hard if you need your tribe to always win.

Though I wanted Metroid. I'm a sucker for Metroid. Well, was anyway.

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« Reply #4277 on: June 30, 2011, 05:09:40 AM »
Whats up with all these new members heeby jeebies, was there a ban wave at GAF?

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« Reply #4278 on: June 30, 2011, 05:20:59 AM »
I tried to register some while ago but got spam filtered because of my e-mail and registered again during the NBA playoffs. Been busy though and seeing the GAF stuff just reminded me I got accepted and I like a number of you people.

I've read for a while though and I know I have to send cock pics to anyone who asks.

Metroid Prime is one of my top 5 of all time. How was that new one that Team Ninja did?
Haven't played it, heard too many bad things. I think I'm in denial because Metroid Prime is also a god-tier game for me and the entire series is same.

I am interested though. I know I have to play it at some point.

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« Reply #4279 on: June 30, 2011, 05:31:25 AM »
Didn't stop me from being a Sega fanboy during the 90's
SegaCD or 32X?

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« Reply #4280 on: June 30, 2011, 05:46:08 AM »
I had both  :lol
I tried to make a joke about how you couldn't play the definitive version of some game without the Sega CD+32X combo. But I couldn't think of a game, and after five minutes on wikipedia I'm not sure they exist. I thought Corpse Killer was one but apparently there's a Saturn AND 3DO version.

At least there's the 32X exclusives like Kolibri, Chaotix, and Golf Magazine: 36 Great Holes Starring Fred Couples. And who can forget Cosmic Carnage.

Wait, wait, Fahrenheit!

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« Reply #4281 on: June 30, 2011, 06:33:10 AM »
man it's nice to see all these people feeling what means own a PAL console :smug
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« Reply #4282 on: June 30, 2011, 06:54:15 AM »
Whats up with all these new members heeby jeebies, was there a ban wave at GAF?

Nope been trying to join for ages. Saw lots of new members joining and tried again. Success.

I like that you can be bitter and cynical on here without the threat of a nice ban.

Plus where else can you bitch about GAF in such a hilarious way.

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« Reply #4283 on: June 30, 2011, 07:41:04 AM »
man it's nice to see all these people feeling what means own a PAL console :smug


you pirate everything. why do you insist on commenting on stuff...
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« Reply #4284 on: June 30, 2011, 09:32:24 AM »
What I find weird is NOE thinks this game could be given a chance in Europe but NOA apparently doesn't feel the same about their own region. Do RPGs generally sell better in Europe where this is can be substantiated? One would think the game would sell similarly (if not better) in America and seeing as how its already been given an English translation for Europe, not a lot of effort would be needed. I'm not familiar with importation though so I am sort of speaking from a place ignorance.

It all comes off as NOA being indifferent to any games that aren't the first party heavy hitters.
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« Reply #4285 on: June 30, 2011, 09:49:04 AM »
I don't get it either, JD.  They could hire a guy to sit at a computer, burn discs by request and mail them to costumers in paper sleeves and it seems like it should still be profitable.

Edit:  Reggie used to work for VH1.  Is he in any way responsible for the time when cable television was inundated with cheap shows following the "I Love the 80s" template?
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« Reply #4286 on: June 30, 2011, 10:16:05 AM »
Maybe nintendo is not unified and noa would have to pay noe to take advantage of their translation work

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« Reply #4287 on: June 30, 2011, 10:27:52 AM »
man it's nice to see all these people feeling what means own a PAL console :smug


you pirate everything. why do you insist on commenting on stuff...

because one of the reason i pirate everything is BECAUSE of stuff like this
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« Reply #4288 on: June 30, 2011, 10:36:54 AM »
This is unfortunately where another distinguished mentally-challenged NoA policy comes into play: they won't use localizations done by the Euro branch.  If they did release the games stateside, they would want to make an entirely new localization.  No, I don't know why.

As for the Euro vs NA market thing, origin7al JRPGs seem to sell a bit better there, whereas in NA it's pretty much FF, KH, or nothing.  One of the main reasons we got all the DQ games we did was because of Euro sales.  The exchange rate is also a bit more favourable in Euro compared to NA, but you'd have to be really nitpicky about financial stuff to be concerned about... oh right, Nintendo.

The thing is, though, Nintendo aren't the only ones behaving this way.  Square Enix, SEGA, Namco, Capcom, heck even Atlus have cut waaaaaaaay back on localizations.  Ignition has essentially bailed out of localizing RPGs, XSEED is still game but has more than they can handle on their plate already with their Falcom commitment, and Aksys can only do so much.  This is why I say: study Japanese in your spare time.  You guys got lucky this time with a Euro release, but the future isn't going to be kind in this regard.  Not kind at all.

Fucking awful to see my favorite genre just wither and die off like this. At least I won't have enough time to even worry about gaming, once I buy a house...

Guess all gamers have to look forward to in the future are watered down action game RPG wannabes from the west, more dudebro shooters, or waggle casual games. Xenoblade was easily the most interesting-looking game too, I am planning on hacking my Wii but this shouldn't have to happen.
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« Reply #4289 on: June 30, 2011, 10:41:40 AM »
coughbullshitcoughcough

lol. he did say "one" of the reasons
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« Reply #4290 on: June 30, 2011, 10:42:53 AM »
This is why I say: study Japanese in your spare time.  You guys got lucky this time with a Euro release, but the future isn't going to be kind in this regard.  Not kind at all.
Do you have any resources you would like to recommend?  

I'm tempted to study Japanese, but I'm already studying Mandarin in my spare time and it might be counter productive to take on a second language.

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« Reply #4291 on: June 30, 2011, 11:02:28 AM »
Looks like I better brush up on my nihongo. I haven't practiced since college.
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« Reply #4292 on: June 30, 2011, 11:29:25 AM »
I think the bigger negative, for Nintendo, is this'll introduce 5K+ Nintendo fans to soft modding which is totally a gateway for piracy. Maguses in the making!

And playing a game with a print out of a translation sounds so abhorrent. I already get turned off when there's missable shit and I need to use a guide, let alone constantly trying to follow dialog. I wish subs were more prevalent, I don't need no stinkin' 3rd rate voicework.
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« Reply #4293 on: June 30, 2011, 11:37:46 AM »
yea i wasn't trying to imply that i pirate for more noble reason than free stuff

just that the argument particulary touches me because piracy in europe means "free stuff + more stuff you would never see otherwise"
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« Reply #4294 on: June 30, 2011, 11:38:29 AM »
If Nintendo was smart, and we know they're not, what they'd do is set up a goal and a deadline. X number of units by Y date, preordered through Amazon. Say, 10K units by October. If the support is there, it'll meet or exceed the goal and Nintendo does a special printing in that amount. They get to come across as the good guy and fans get the game they want. And there's no costs outside of disc pressing for NOA because NOE has already done the translation work. If the support isn't there, Nintendo gets to say "Well, guys, we tried" and they aren't any cash or goodwill.
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« Reply #4295 on: June 30, 2011, 11:42:31 AM »
I think the bigger negative, for Nintendo, is this'll introduce 5K+ Nintendo fans to soft modding which is totally a gateway for piracy. Maguses in the making!

And playing a game with a print out of a translation sounds so abhorrent. I already get turned off when there's missable shit and I need to use a guide, let alone constantly trying to follow dialog. I wish subs were more prevalent, I don't need no stinkin' 3rd rate voicework.

I dunno bout 5k. If the demand for these games is really there, this could be a big legit import/pirate situation.
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« Reply #4296 on: June 30, 2011, 11:47:49 AM »
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Last Story is junk.

oh? after reaching the conclusion that mistwalker can't do a decent game now i'm curious... care to elaborate?

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« Reply #4297 on: June 30, 2011, 11:48:41 AM »
Last Story is junk on Wii. On a real machine... would have been hot. A real J-Mass Effect.
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« Reply #4298 on: June 30, 2011, 11:52:57 AM »
to play imports on the wii you need to install that homebrew app.  getting all that software on the Wii takes roughly the same effort (very little) as installing software to pirate games (via usb hard drive).  at that point, there is maybe a small group of people that will spend the money to import game and play them legally.  because at that point, you've already "hacked" the console to play a legally purchased game to get around the archaic region locking.

I think what I'm saying is that people are more likely to pirate than import the translated games from Europe.  I don't actually know much about the Xenoblade thing, but Last Story looks cool and I'd import that if it was translated in English.  But not everyone will spend higher than average prices to import, especially when so many complain about $60 game prices and bargain bins and whatnot, when the alternative of piracy could be considered in the same 'grey' area of modifying the hardware.

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« Reply #4299 on: June 30, 2011, 12:13:02 PM »
I think the bigger negative, for Nintendo, is this'll introduce 5K+ Nintendo fans to soft modding which is totally a gateway for piracy. Maguses in the making!

And playing a game with a print out of a translation sounds so abhorrent. I already get turned off when there's missable shit and I need to use a guide, let alone constantly trying to follow dialog. I wish subs were more prevalent, I don't need no stinkin' 3rd rate voicework.

I dunno bout 5k. If the demand for these games is really there, this could be a big legit import/pirate situation.

There's actually 5K comments on their Facebook update alone. Its definitely not 5K unique users and its probably not all negative but there's definitely quite a following and fervor over this.
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« Reply #4300 on: June 30, 2011, 12:34:57 PM »
To be honest I wasn't worried about it before now; I've been blithely assuming that sooner or later they'd come out here, was just irritated about no specific date.

This is what I was assuming, too...  :-\

Nintendo's been a total disgrace this gen, I had high hopes for the Wii, but nope the system turned out to be a total disappointment. Only "hardcore" game that was any good was S&P2.
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« Reply #4301 on: June 30, 2011, 12:47:42 PM »
To be honest I wasn't worried about it before now; I've been blithely assuming that sooner or later they'd come out here, was just irritated about no specific date.

This is what I was assuming, too...  :-\

Nintendo's been a total disgrace this gen, I had high hopes for the Wii, but nope the system turned out to be a total disappointment. Only "hardcore" game that was any good was S&P2.

Galaxy?  :(
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« Reply #4302 on: June 30, 2011, 01:06:44 PM »
To be honest I wasn't worried about it before now; I've been blithely assuming that sooner or later they'd come out here, was just irritated about no specific date.

This is what I was assuming, too...  :-\

Nintendo's been a total disgrace this gen, I had high hopes for the Wii, but nope the system turned out to be a total disappointment. Only "hardcore" game that was any good was S&P2.

Galaxy?  :(

Wouldn't really consider Galaxy "hardcore" in the way something like S&P2, Xenoblade, etc are... that said, I liked the first Galaxy, thought the second one was a rehash... NSMB Wii was my favorite, since 2D Mario >>>>>>> 3D Mario IMO.
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« Reply #4303 on: June 30, 2011, 01:19:22 PM »
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« Reply #4304 on: June 30, 2011, 02:01:04 PM »
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« Reply #4305 on: June 30, 2011, 02:25:30 PM »
Then they would be knickers.
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« Reply #4306 on: June 30, 2011, 06:10:16 PM »
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« Reply #4307 on: June 30, 2011, 09:17:45 PM »
As much as I think publishers are wrong blaming all their problems on used game sales and piracy, actively undermining a prevalent hobby you enjoy is both a dick move and shooting yourself in the foot.
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« Reply #4308 on: June 30, 2011, 09:25:05 PM »
Also, some of you all are guilty of severely overestimating what kind of influence the 'hardcore gamer'  has in this market. There will be no major reprucussions from not releasing weeaboo games.

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I'm 95 percent sure dqx will be localised, Oscar.  DQ9 did 'good' if not 'great'.  Square Enix certainly would like to ride the Nintendo marketing machine again, and DQ is one of the few  niche franchises Nintendo will stick with to try and sustain that rekationship.
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« Reply #4309 on: June 30, 2011, 10:06:27 PM »
Also, some of you all are guilty of severely overestimating what kind of influence the 'hardcore gamer'  has in this market. There will be no major reprucussions from not releasing weeaboo games.

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I'm 95 percent sure dqx will be localised, Oscar.  DQ9 did 'good' if not 'great'.  Square Enix certainly would like to ride the Nintendo marketing machine again, and DQ is one of the few  niche franchises Nintendo will stick with to try and sustain that rekationship.

Unlike you, EmCee, and the majority of other Nintendo fans... I don't really give a fuck about how well the company's stock does. I'm not a shareholder, I'm a gamer. And all I want is games, in the genres I like, to come out in the territory where I live.

There are a number of companies who make a living off of games that are MUCH more niche than stuff like Xenoblade or The Last Story, too, besides. X-SEED localized a game from a series with a bad reputation in the states (due to shitty Bandai-developed ports of games from the 90's), with thousands-upon-thousands of pages of text to translate, on a platform that's in the coffin in America. And managed to make a bit of money off it.

I'm actually predicting the Wii-U is gonna see a major decline in sales from the Wii, due to the casual market leaving in droves for their cellphone games and iPad shit. And due to the typical american dudebro "hardcore" preferring to stick with 360/PS3, or getting the 720/PS4 for much better graphics/online.
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Re: The Official BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH about GAF thread
« Reply #4310 on: June 30, 2011, 10:12:29 PM »
Let's look on the bright side, we'll get all the gaming we'll ever want (albeit bit sized $5 single touch flash games) with the WiiU! Feels bad, man.
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Re: The Official BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH about GAF thread
« Reply #4311 on: June 30, 2011, 10:23:46 PM »
Yeah we get it tiesto, you hold it against a corporation when they don't cater to your whim.  I guess I have a longer term memory and remember when Nintendo published Elite Beat Agents, Dragon Quest 9, and Sin and Punishment 2 and various other ds games I've forgotten.  They're such vindicative assholes.

I do wonder if DQX will be the first to break some long standing rules of platform exclusivity the series adheres too.  Like, I'm sure its a moneyhat, so no non nintendo consoles will see it.  But the wii is dead in japan and I imagine (Hori?) realises this.  It will be even deader by the time DQX is finished.  The only things that make sense to me are a 3ds conversion or possibly WiiU, although coming out so early in the lifecycle would hurt its potential sales.
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Re: The Official BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH about GAF thread
« Reply #4312 on: June 30, 2011, 10:26:24 PM »
Yeah we get it tiesto, you hold it against a corporation when they don't cater to your whim.

And what's wrong with that?
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Re: The Official BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH about GAF thread
« Reply #4313 on: June 30, 2011, 10:31:08 PM »
Yeah we get it tiesto, you hold it against a corporation when they don't cater to your whim.

And what's wrong with that?

Do you also get mad at the pretty girl in class when she doesn't care you exist? 

What Nintendo is doing is a passive action.  Its not like they are sending kill codes out to peoples' consoles.
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« Reply #4314 on: June 30, 2011, 10:33:10 PM »
Yeah we get it tiesto, you hold it against a corporation when they don't cater to your whim.  I guess I have a longer term memory and remember when Nintendo published Elite Beat Agents, Dragon Quest 9, and Sin and Punishment 2 and various other ds games I've forgotten.  They're such vindicative assholes.

I do wonder if DQX will be the first to break some long standing rules of platform exclusivity the series adheres too.  Like, I'm sure its a moneyhat, so no non nintendo consoles will see it.  But the wii is dead in japan and I imagine (Hori?) realises this.  It will be even deader by the time DQX is finished.  The only things that make sense to me are a 3ds conversion or possibly WiiU, although coming out so early in the lifecycle would hurt its potential sales.

I have a longer term memory than that -I remember when Nintendo failed to publish Dragon Quest 6 SNES (after promising it in the US after the closure of Enix's US offices), every Fire Emblem game up until the GBA, every Famicom Wars game up until the GBA, Marvelous (the first Eiji Aonuma game), and of course some obscure little title called Mother 3... (arguably the best game on GBA). As a person who buys a ton of video games, I don't like being shitted on... the whole "deal with it" is pretty lame too. I'm not saying I'll outright boycott Nintendo's products (though nothing they have on the pipeline interests me at all), but it's still pretty shitty. What other businesses do you know of that dump on their clientele as much as the big 3 console manufacturers?
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Re: The Official BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH BITCH about GAF thread
« Reply #4315 on: June 30, 2011, 10:34:55 PM »
This isn't the motion control fan forum.  >:( Gtfo with this "gaming" talk.

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« Reply #4316 on: June 30, 2011, 10:39:57 PM »
Gee I seem to remember we eventually DID get various advance wars, fire emblem, and dragon quest games... published by NoA.  Again, no one is actively denying you games just to piss you off.  A publicly owned company does not have the luxury of telling its shareholders they threw away money to appease you.  Capitalism is the balls, I know, but it is what it is.

edit: My ultimate point.  You have little perspective and want the world to work in an unlikely fashion.
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« Reply #4317 on: June 30, 2011, 10:45:33 PM »
Yeah we get it tiesto, you hold it against a corporation when they don't cater to your whim.

And what's wrong with that?

Do you also get mad at the pretty girl in class when she doesn't care you exist? 

I might if she strung me along for a few months and then said "Well, I really want to go out with you, but...I guess I won't."
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« Reply #4318 on: June 30, 2011, 10:52:10 PM »
But what if the girl put out for you (Baten Kaitos Origins) and it turns out your dick was too small to satisfy her  (Baten Kaitos Origins debuting at 5k~ in the NPD)?

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« Reply #4319 on: June 30, 2011, 11:24:25 PM »
I never said you have to support a company that doesn't serve your interests.  That's not the case though.  Operation Rainfall (lol wtf) is a huge shining example of the erroneous attitude at work. 

'They SHOULD bring this game over cus' I want it and therefore it will somehow someway be successful by some metric'

NO.  Its delusion and self-serving non-logic.  I hope to remedy that by arguing on the internet.

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As to why I stick with Nintendo then.  Honestly, its a combination of being cheap/poor and enjoying games that are chiefly about the mechanics and not having a plot.
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