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« Reply #22860 on: November 09, 2016, 05:58:46 PM »
nah you're alright mate, i'll stick with facebook likes for my charity activism.

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« Reply #22861 on: November 09, 2016, 06:07:18 PM »
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/an-american-tragedy-donald-trump
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The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism. Trump’s shocking victory, his ascension to the Presidency, is a sickening event in the history of the United States and liberal democracy. On January 20, 2017, we will bid farewell to the first African-American President—a man of integrity, dignity, and generous spirit—and witness the inauguration of a con who did little to spurn endorsement by forces of xenophobia and white supremacy. It is impossible to react to this moment with anything less than revulsion and profound anxiety.

There are, inevitably, miseries to come: an increasingly reactionary Supreme Court; an emboldened right-wing Congress; a President whose disdain for women and minorities, civil liberties and scientific fact, to say nothing of simple decency, has been repeatedly demonstrated. Trump is vulgarity unbounded, a knowledge-free national leader who will not only set markets tumbling but will strike fear into the hearts of the vulnerable, the weak, and, above all, the many varieties of Other whom he has so deeply insulted. The African-American Other. The Hispanic Other. The female Other. The Jewish and Muslim Other. The most hopeful way to look at this grievous event—and it’s a stretch—is that this election and the years to follow will be a test of the strength, or the fragility, of American institutions. It will be a test of our seriousness and resolve.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/education/2016/11/09/des-moines-students-walkout-donald-trump-election-president/93539892/
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Hundreds of students walked out of several Des Moines-area high schools Wednesday morning in protest of Donald Trump's presidential election victory.

Chanting "Let's Dump Donald Trump" or "F--- Donald Trump," teens linked arms at East, broke into song at Roosevelt and chanted in Spanish at Hoover. In addition, about 20 students walked out of Valley in West Des Moines.

The schools allowed the student-organized protests, which lasted 15 to 45 minutes, giving participants unexcused absences.

"The rhetoric of this past election has caused many concerns and divisions," Des Moines Public Schools spokesman Phil Roeder said in a statement issued right before the walkout. "The school district will not stand in the way of our students peacefully expressing their concerns."

Teens used social media to coordinate the 10:30 a.m. walkout, which coincided with Hillary Clinton's concession speech. Students designated leaders to start chants and reminded them to be respectful, although protests devolved at times into cursing and obscene gestures.

“There’s a lot of tension,” organizer Jalesha Johnson, a senior at East, said. “I wanted to show that this generation does care, and we won’t sit quietly when we have an opportunity to say something.”

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/white_won.html
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We are still the country that produced George Wallace. We are still the country that killed Emmett Till.
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“I can’t believe this. I just can’t believe it,” said one of the officers, the younger of the two. The other just shook his head. I asked the younger officer what he thought about all of this—about President Donald Trump. “This is deep, man. This is deep. Who am I supposed to be protecting now?” He looked down at his uniform. “Why am I wearing this?”

http://sd24.senate.ca.gov/news/2016-11-09-joint-statement-california-legislative-leaders-result-presidential-election
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Today, we woke up feeling like strangers in a foreign land, because yesterday Americans expressed their views on a pluralistic and democratic society that are clearly inconsistent with the values of the people of California.

We have never been more proud to be Californians.

By a margin in the millions, Californians overwhelmingly rejected politics fueled by resentment, bigotry, and misogyny.

The largest state of the union and the strongest driver of our nation’s economy has shown it has its surest conscience as well.

California is – and must always be – a refuge of justice and opportunity for people of all walks, talks, ages and aspirations – regardless of how you look, where you live, what language you speak, or who you love.

California has long set an example for other states to follow. And California will defend its people and our progress. We are not going to allow one election to reverse generations of progress at the height of our historic diversity, scientific advancement, economic output, and sense of global responsibility.

We will be reaching out to federal, state and local officials to evaluate how a Trump Presidency will potentially impact federal funding of ongoing state programs, job-creating investments reliant on foreign trade, and federal enforcement of laws affecting the rights of people living in our state. We will maximize the time during the presidential transition to defend our accomplishments using every tool at our disposal.

While Donald Trump may have won the presidency, he hasn’t changed our values. America is greater than any one man or party. We will not be dragged back into the past. We will lead the resistance to any effort that would shred our social fabric or our Constitution.

California was not a part of this nation when its history began, but we are clearly now the keeper of its future.

http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/305117-celebs-who-said-theyd-leave-country-if-trump-won

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« Reply #22862 on: November 09, 2016, 06:07:37 PM »
Am I off base in thinking that even the slogans sealed Hillary's fate?

"Make America Great Again"  :ohhh

vs.

"I'm with Her"  :what



....she really had no chance at all, did she?

Her low energy campaign was garbage from start to finish.

She is Martha Coakley.

Oh and Reddit made The_Donald a featured subreddit.

Fuck reddit.

Fuck nerds.

Spez: Ayyyy lmao. (Old post, don't bother with it)

Anyway, what's hilarious to me is getting Brits that voted for British Exit into a furor.

"America, everyone is laughing at you!"
"Yeah, well you voted for the same thing months ago. #Glasshousesdontthrowstones"
"(Impotent rage and Triggering intensifies) BUT THEY AREN'T THE SAME THING!"
"Redcoats, please. If you can't see the parallels between how these two things happened, that's on you."

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« Reply #22863 on: November 09, 2016, 06:14:07 PM »
Uh, so that California statement is nice and all since I'm from California and have some respect for our state, but we say blah blah blah we're so such great angelic progressive people holding the nation together and yet instead of abolishing the death penalty we voted to kill people faster and we didn't vote on the Sanders 61 to attempt to fuck with the drug pricing industry and see how it plays out.  But yeah, we got weed.  That's nice and I'd been waiting for that for a while (not as a smoker, but people shouldn't get in trouble for it; fucking stupid), we're still pretty damn conservative and just like USA, we have a huge rural portion of California that is all red and it's only the big cities that keep us progressive/blue.

Basically I like my state, but we can still do a lot better.  I mean even weed should've passed last election.  We're slow.

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« Reply #22864 on: November 09, 2016, 06:14:10 PM »
Also poor folks with clinton, richer folks with Trump if you're still stupid enough to think this was about the economy.

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/796334319132352512

Color me shocked. I honestly thought he brought out the poor folks. Lemme see the rest of that data.

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« Reply #22865 on: November 09, 2016, 06:15:21 PM »
He improved or held the R standing relatively in most groups:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/elections/exit-poll-analysis.html

He improved nearly 20 points with those who make under $30,000 over Romney.

He lost almost ten points among both those above $100,000 and above $200,000.

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« Reply #22866 on: November 09, 2016, 06:16:47 PM »
http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/

Yep. It still hurts to read since it was completely right then and was proven right last night.

Anyone point out that all the swing states Hillary lost were won by Bernie during the primaries? Just checking.

Huh, by the DNC rules I actually thinks that makes him next in line as the rightful candidate.


Also, multiple Poligaffers actually had their accounts deleted?

As in they were actual Hillary Shills and their contract ran out?

Jesus.
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« Reply #22867 on: November 09, 2016, 06:17:31 PM »
Even tho I dont live in the US im still pretty shook that this shit actually happened. I'm scared of what Russia might do if the US decides to pull out of NATO and give Russia free reign to do whatever the fuck they want.

OK I really should ask a fee to the FSB because I feel I am the resident russian semi-apologist, but apart from the Baltic states (which yeah, wouldn't want to be in their shoes today), Russia is probably unable to project force in a meaningful way on NATO borders in Central Europe. To take an example, the Russian air force had terrible performances over Georgia losing according to outside reports IIRC 7 planes including a fairly pricey Tu22 supersonic bomber.

That's not to say Russia won't pursue an agressive strategy within its so called sphere of influence, they have plenty of ways to strong arm their way... but well, as shown in Crimea, they're already doing that openly despite US and European sanctions.

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Also, multiple Poligaffers actually had their accounts deleted?

As in they were actual Hillary Shills and their contract ran out?

Voluntary removals.
That's right, the most ardent Shillaries suffocated on their own koolaid.
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« Reply #22868 on: November 09, 2016, 06:21:40 PM »
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Also, multiple Poligaffers actually had their accounts deleted?

As in they were actual Hillary Shills and their contract ran out?

Voluntary removals.
That's right, the most ardent Shillaries suffocated on their own koolaid.

I want an analysis of how many GAF account went dead forever at the stroke of midnight.
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« Reply #22869 on: November 09, 2016, 06:22:44 PM »
Also, multiple Poligaffers actually had their accounts deleted?

As in they were actual Hillary Shills and their contract ran out?

Jesus.
Check the GAF thread on here for GAF stuff, I posted some from last night, a lot of regulars were deciding they didn't want to even discuss politics anymore and I assume asked for themselves to be banned/etc. because they didn't trust themselves to stop. Adam387, for example, asked for a ban I assume as he didn't post anything ban worthy.

Posted two minutes ago in PoliGAF:
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Yeah, I think I might need a break from PoliGAF. I just can't.
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« Reply #22870 on: November 09, 2016, 06:26:47 PM »
Also, multiple Poligaffers actually had their accounts deleted?

As in they were actual Hillary Shills and their contract ran out?

Jesus.
Check the GAF thread on here for GAF stuff, I posted some from last night, a lot of regulars were deciding they didn't want to even discuss politics anymore and I assume asked for themselves to be banned/etc. because they didn't trust themselves to stop. Adam387, for example, asked for a ban I assume as he didn't post anything ban worthy.

Sounds like a good exit strategy for CTR. That way they can fire up again in 2020 and not raise suspicion.
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« Reply #22871 on: November 09, 2016, 06:31:31 PM »
So the two media personalities that correctly predicted Trump was Michael Moore and Ann Coulter.

What a time to be alive.

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« Reply #22872 on: November 09, 2016, 06:32:44 PM »
So the two media personalities that correctly predicted Trump was Michael Moore and Ann Coulter.

What a time to be alive.

 :doge

And that insufferable twitter guy who wouldnt shut up about secret trump voters and rally turnout
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« Reply #22873 on: November 09, 2016, 06:36:12 PM »
and Dilbert's Scott Adams :P

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« Reply #22874 on: November 09, 2016, 06:37:25 PM »
Don't forget Alex Jones.

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« Reply #22875 on: November 09, 2016, 06:39:37 PM »
Don't forget Alex Jones.

Glenn Beck cant stop taking the Ls
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« Reply #22876 on: November 09, 2016, 06:40:44 PM »
Yeah, we never gonna hear the end of those fuckers now (Moore article linked above was pretty on point, to be fair) just like President Trump will milk for all its worth his public service in paid speeches and appearances. The Trump family is never leaving the GOP too... and think of all the hacks that are riding on his coattails getting one last big paycheck : Giulani, Gingrich...

TFW you will be able to say any crazy shit and when called on it shout "WELL YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE TRUMP WOULD WIN EITHER ? SO IM RIGHT."
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« Reply #22877 on: November 09, 2016, 06:41:05 PM »
and Dilbert's Scott Adams :P

In the plus side, people can force him to be the first in the line of fire if Trump goes full Orange Hitler.

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« Reply #22878 on: November 09, 2016, 06:42:36 PM »
I was kinda chill about all this last night but the more I think about it the more angry I get.

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« Reply #22879 on: November 09, 2016, 06:44:57 PM »
The Trump family is never leaving the GOP too...

You just had to add a fresh take didnt you
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« Reply #22880 on: November 09, 2016, 06:45:39 PM »
Is Trump going to build an actual wall?

Or is he going to say that the wall is a metaphor for tightening immigration legislation?
I'm hoping for an actual wall.

Hadrians Wall
Great Wall
Trumps Wall

And remember Mexico is paying.

Mexico will pay, because they'll be trying to stem the tide of Californian refugees.

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« Reply #22881 on: November 09, 2016, 06:50:08 PM »
The king:
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Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  23h23 hours ago
Clinton at 42 fav/55 unfav, a very unpopular nominee.
Trump 38/58. Perhaps GOP shouldn't have nominated most unpopular nominee in history?
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Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  23h23 hours ago
Trump is a unique candidate, Clinton first woman president, it's a crazy year, etc, etc--and it looks as 2016 will look very much like 2012.
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Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  23h23 hours ago
Basically: 2016 will be 2012, but perhaps a bit more so as voting groups move further in the direction they were already moving.
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Bill Kristol ‏@BillKristol  22h22 hours ago
Looks to me like a Dem 51-49 Senate.

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« Reply #22882 on: November 09, 2016, 06:51:30 PM »
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Donald Trump won 76% of counties w/ a Cracker Barrel & 22% of counties w/ a Whole Foods -- a 54% gap. In '92, gap b/t same counties was 19%.

Dave WassermanVerified account
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Whole Foods vs. Cracker Barrel culture gap over time:

1992: 19%
1996: 23%
2000: 31%
2004: 39%
2008: 43%
2012: 46%
2016: 54%

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« Reply #22883 on: November 09, 2016, 06:53:48 PM »
Is Trump going to build an actual wall?

Or is he going to say that the wall is a metaphor for tightening immigration legislation?
I'm hoping for an actual wall.

Hadrians Wall
Great Wall
Trumps Wall

And remember Mexico is paying.

Mexico will pay, because they'll be trying to stem the tide of Californian refugees.

Nah, thats why we have the Narcos for.

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« Reply #22884 on: November 09, 2016, 06:54:32 PM »
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Dave WassermanVerified account
‏@Redistrict
Donald Trump won 76% of counties w/ a Cracker Barrel & 22% of counties w/ a Whole Foods -- a 54% gap. In '92, gap b/t same counties was 19%.

Dave WassermanVerified account
‏@Redistrict
Whole Foods vs. Cracker Barrel culture gap over time:

1992: 19%
1996: 23%
2000: 31%
2004: 39%
2008: 43%
2012: 46%
2016: 54%

Make America Organic Food Restaurants Again?

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« Reply #22885 on: November 09, 2016, 06:57:08 PM »
Resentment of liberal condescension in Rust Belt states + NAFTA eviscerating economies of said states + Clinton. TAA DAA

And it's not that everyone who voted for Trump in those states is racist. It's more that his talk on trade, manufacturing and the economy resonated enough that they were willing to overlook the rest of his...deficiencies. Trump's coalition isn't going to last forever but the strategy of an outsider stirring up Middle America will still be viable for what? 10? 20 years?

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« Reply #22886 on: November 09, 2016, 07:00:01 PM »
So the two media personalities that correctly predicted Trump was Michael Moore and Ann Coulter.

What a time to be alive.

 :doge

And that insufferable twitter guy who wouldnt shut up about secret trump voters and rally turnout

And yet he'll prob finish will fewer votes than Romney, or barely more. The story here is democrat voters taking things for granted in multiple states, and a vast majority of white women being cool with electing someone who brags about sexually assaulting women.
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« Reply #22887 on: November 09, 2016, 07:02:18 PM »
I praise Trump for this

He took out the Bush and Clinton families from any more politics.

Good

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« Reply #22888 on: November 09, 2016, 07:03:54 PM »
I loathe Trump but yes, the (sole?) good thing about him is that this is *the last* we'll see of either family for quite a while. I guess it wasn't her turn after all.

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« Reply #22889 on: November 09, 2016, 07:07:45 PM »
lol a few days ago I was thinking wow I wonder how long before Chelsea runs for congress, then senate. Now...nooope.
:rejoice

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« Reply #22890 on: November 09, 2016, 07:10:43 PM »
I really don’t buy the “not everyone who voted for Trump is racist,” especially when it comes to white voters. If you elected a racist as president, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter how you knew a black guy once who was a hard worker and you got along great. Just because you don’t like being called a racist doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. Just because you don’t actually understand racism (because you think reverse racism exists) doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. If you are comfortable around racists, you’re a racist. If you never posted on the Bore outside of the GAF thread before because you knew your racist views weren’t tolerated and then felt safe after a racist was elected, you’re a racist.

Using the exit polls and vote results, that means there are roughly 35 million racist white voters in the USA. Considering this country has a cultural history of racism, I don’t find that hard to believe at all.

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« Reply #22891 on: November 09, 2016, 07:13:14 PM »
I admit it's petty to not vote for a candidate because someone else in their immediate family has already come before. But that's kinda how I felt about voting for HRC. 300+ million people in the country and we again faced the possibility of a Jeb! vs. Hillary? We couldn't find anyone else?

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« Reply #22892 on: November 09, 2016, 07:15:17 PM »
I really don’t buy the “not everyone who voted for Trump is racist,” especially when it comes to white voters. If you elected a racist as president, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter how you knew a black guy once who was a hard worker and you got along great. Just because you don’t like being called a racist doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. Just because you don’t actually understand racism (because you think reverse racism exists) doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. If you are comfortable around racists, you’re a racist. If you never posted on the Bore outside of the GAF thread before because you knew your racist views weren’t tolerated and then felt safe after a racist was elected, you’re a racist.

Using the exit polls and vote results, that means there are roughly 35 million racist white voters in the USA. Considering this country has a cultural history of racism, I don’t find that hard to believe at all.

 :idont

I sort of agree. A Trump voter is really looking hard the other way. But that's the way it is in some terribly depressed places. Christ, Walmarts in some of those towns are like the company store and could fit the entire town inside them. I don't think we should reduce those voters to a single facet of their personality.

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« Reply #22893 on: November 09, 2016, 07:15:43 PM »
Cmon that's ridiculous, Samson.


All the racists didn't vote, there's likely much more

Nvm you extrapolated didn't you. Whatever, I lose

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« Reply #22894 on: November 09, 2016, 07:22:09 PM »
Some people are overreacting to the idea that Democrats mistepped on messaging by thinking it means "CODDLE THE RACISTS." They effectively made the election about Trump solely including downballot while simultaneously talking about how it was in the bag. And they don't understand why that wasn't enough to get people to vote for Hillary and the D's?

I stopped seeing the pro-Hillary ads in Michigan in September, after that they were all about terrible things Trump had said and how he'd be garbage as President. And lots of the downballot races were trying to tie the R candidate to what Trump had said.

It's like there just was a big assumption that everyone was as motivated to be FOR HER as they were. Something, IIRC, was a problem they had in 2008.

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« Reply #22895 on: November 09, 2016, 07:22:19 PM »
I really don’t buy the “not everyone who voted for Trump is racist,” especially when it comes to white voters. If you elected a racist as president, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter how you knew a black guy once who was a hard worker and you got along great. Just because you don’t like being called a racist doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. Just because you don’t actually understand racism (because you think reverse racism exists) doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. If you are comfortable around racists, you’re a racist. If you never posted on the Bore outside of the GAF thread before because you knew your racist views weren’t tolerated and then felt safe after a racist was elected, you’re a racist.

Using the exit polls and vote results, that means there are roughly 35 million racist white voters in the USA. Considering this country has a cultural history of racism, I don’t find that hard to believe at all.

 :idont

I sort of agree. A Trump voter is really looking hard the other way. But that's the way it is in some terribly depressed places. Christ, Walmarts in some of those towns are like the company store and could fit the entire town inside them. I don't think we should reduce those voters to a single facet of their personality.

Sure, racists are a culture, not a costume. But you can be disenfranchised, left behind, stuck in poverty, feel betrayed, and also racist. Those first things don’t give you a “I’m not a racist” card. Those things are probably more likely to make you a racist since racism in this country was built around tricking those types of people not to revolt against aristocracy in the southern colonies.

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« Reply #22896 on: November 09, 2016, 07:24:36 PM »
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“I didn’t vote for (George W.) Bush, but he was a good, honorable man with whom I had political differences, so I didn’t vote for him. But for our country to be where we are now, who took a guy who -- I don’t care what anyone says, I’m sure they have other reasons and maybe good reasons for voting for Donald Trump -- but I don’t think anybody can deny this guy is openly and brazenly racist and misogynistic and ethnic-centric, and say, ‘That’s OK with us, we’re going to vote for him anyway.'

“We have just thrown a good part of our population under the bus, and I have problems with thinking that this is where we are as a country. It’s tough on (the team), we noticed it coming in. Everybody was a little quiet, and I thought, ‘Well, maybe the game the other night.’ And so we talked about that, but then Aron Baynes said, ‘I don’t think that’s why everybody’s quiet. It’s last night.’

“It’s just, we have said -- and my daughters, the three of them -- our society has said, ‘No, we think you should be second-class citizens. We want you to be second-class citizens. And we embrace a guy who is openly misogynistic as our leader.' I don’t know how we get past that.
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« Reply #22897 on: November 09, 2016, 07:27:05 PM »
I don't know...Trump voter = automatic racist just seems too simplistic. I still think it's more likely that quite a few tolerant/open-minded/non-racist folks were enthusiastic about his rhetoric on trade and the economy and willing to overlook the dog whistling. If an issue is *important* enough - the economy - I still think people would hold their nose and take the good with the bad.

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« Reply #22898 on: November 09, 2016, 07:27:11 PM »
I really don’t buy the “not everyone who voted for Trump is racist,” especially when it comes to white voters. If you elected a racist as president, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter how you knew a black guy once who was a hard worker and you got along great. Just because you don’t like being called a racist doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. Just because you don’t actually understand racism (because you think reverse racism exists) doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. If you are comfortable around racists, you’re a racist. If you never posted on the Bore outside of the GAF thread before because you knew your racist views weren’t tolerated and then felt safe after a racist was elected, you’re a racist.

Using the exit polls and vote results, that means there are roughly 35 million racist white voters in the USA. Considering this country has a cultural history of racism, I don’t find that hard to believe at all.

 :idont


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the type of thinking that made Donald J. Trump a fucking president.

benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22899 on: November 09, 2016, 07:27:54 PM »
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“I didn’t vote for (George W.) Bush, but he was a good, honorable man with whom I had political differences, so I didn’t vote for him. But for our country to be where we are now, who took a guy who -- I don’t care what anyone says, I’m sure they have other reasons and maybe good reasons for voting for Donald Trump -- but I don’t think anybody can deny this guy is openly and brazenly racist and misogynistic and ethnic-centric, and say, ‘That’s OK with us, we’re going to vote for him anyway.'

“We have just thrown a good part of our population under the bus, and I have problems with thinking that this is where we are as a country. It’s tough on (the team), we noticed it coming in. Everybody was a little quiet, and I thought, ‘Well, maybe the game the other night.’ And so we talked about that, but then Aron Baynes said, ‘I don’t think that’s why everybody’s quiet. It’s last night.’

“It’s just, we have said -- and my daughters, the three of them -- our society has said, ‘No, we think you should be second-class citizens. We want you to be second-class citizens. And we embrace a guy who is openly misogynistic as our leader.' I don’t know how we get past that.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/11/09/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/93551178/?hootPostID=f10f7d9c7e00059ac139b93a5f10541c

Van Gundys remain my favorite white dudes
:whew
WHY DIDN'T HE SAY THIS BEFORE THE ELECTION ARGLE BARGLE HANG HIM

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #22900 on: November 09, 2016, 07:30:30 PM »
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“I didn’t vote for (George W.) Bush, but he was a good, honorable man with whom I had political differences, so I didn’t vote for him. But for our country to be where we are now, who took a guy who -- I don’t care what anyone says, I’m sure they have other reasons and maybe good reasons for voting for Donald Trump -- but I don’t think anybody can deny this guy is openly and brazenly racist and misogynistic and ethnic-centric, and say, ‘That’s OK with us, we’re going to vote for him anyway.'

“We have just thrown a good part of our population under the bus, and I have problems with thinking that this is where we are as a country. It’s tough on (the team), we noticed it coming in. Everybody was a little quiet, and I thought, ‘Well, maybe the game the other night.’ And so we talked about that, but then Aron Baynes said, ‘I don’t think that’s why everybody’s quiet. It’s last night.’

“It’s just, we have said -- and my daughters, the three of them -- our society has said, ‘No, we think you should be second-class citizens. We want you to be second-class citizens. And we embrace a guy who is openly misogynistic as our leader.' I don’t know how we get past that.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2016/11/09/detroit-pistons-stan-van-gundy/93551178/?hootPostID=f10f7d9c7e00059ac139b93a5f10541c

Van Gundys remain my favorite white dudes
:whew

How do you know who voted for Trump in your circle? I hesitate to even ask to bring it up. I can't trust American's, especially whites. People can call me racist all they want but last night proved me right.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #22901 on: November 09, 2016, 07:36:50 PM »
I really don’t buy the “not everyone who voted for Trump is racist,” especially when it comes to white voters. If you elected a racist as president, you’re a racist. It doesn’t matter how you knew a black guy once who was a hard worker and you got along great. Just because you don’t like being called a racist doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. Just because you don’t actually understand racism (because you think reverse racism exists) doesn’t mean you’re not a racist. If you are comfortable around racists, you’re a racist. If you never posted on the Bore outside of the GAF thread before because you knew your racist views weren’t tolerated and then felt safe after a racist was elected, you’re a racist.

Using the exit polls and vote results, that means there are roughly 35 million racist white voters in the USA. Considering this country has a cultural history of racism, I don’t find that hard to believe at all.

 :idont


And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the type of thinking that made Donald J. Trump a fucking president.

You mean people who are fragile enough to not accept the truth? So we are supposed to baby them? What was wrong with be said? Trump was endorsed by the KKK and refused to dismiss their endorsement. The man has promised to deport Muslims and Mexicans and build a wall, Germany style. Nazis, as in literal Nazi's, are Trump supporters. How is the act of calling people who support this racist a bad thing? It's the fucking truth.

Today my friends (none are white) are telling stories about what happened to them. People are spray painting Nazi swastika's. Kids are telling their classmates they should be in the back of the bus. We have to explain to our children and family that we are scared. This ranges from multiple groups, from women to LGBTQ to racial minorities.

Now that they have won its open season.

But nah, calling a spade a spade is how Trump won? All that tells me is the fragility of white egos and how utterly weak of a people they are.
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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22902 on: November 09, 2016, 07:42:56 PM »
The problem is that both parties in the last couple decades have signed on to globalization and international trade while doing little to help those affected in the rust belt states.

A reconstituted DNC in 2020 might be able to test the theory that there are red state folks who voted for Trump but are not themselves racist. Democrats on the national level walked away from red states when they turned sharply corporatist around the beginning of the Clinton era.

Phoenix Dark

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22903 on: November 09, 2016, 07:46:51 PM »
President of the United States

Clinton-Kaine:  128,025

Johnson-Weld:  5,806

Stein-Baraka: 2,389

Trump-Pence: 50,335

Castle-Bradley: 472

Soltysik-Walker: 95

Precincts counted: all 157

My district is pretty blue
:yeshrug

Most people I know voted for Hillary. People at work...that's another story.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #22904 on: November 09, 2016, 07:51:59 PM »
Another thing that gets me is that we are told to accept this result even though republicans obstructed Obama and our people for eight goddamn years in terms of meaningful legislature. Obama was a Muslim, an atheist, anything negative under the sun. But a dude who has gotten endorsements from literal nazis and klansmen and now we have to play nice and "accept" our new "President".

Fuck.

That.
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benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22905 on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:01 PM »
Code: [Select]
President and Vice President
121/121 100.00%
  Vote Count Percent
REP - Donald J. Trump/Michael R. Pence 44,354 32.88%
DEM - Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine 81,266 60.24%
LIB - Gary Johnson/Bill Weld 5,369 3.98%
UST - Darrell L. Castle/Scott N. Bradley 521 0.39%
GRN - Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka 1,876 1.39%
NLP - Emidio Mimi Soltysik/Angela Walker 92 0.07%
Write-In 1,423 1.05%
Total 134,901 100.00%
that's quite a lot of write-ins actually

Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22906 on: November 09, 2016, 07:54:34 PM »
Another thing that gets me is that we are told to accept this result even though republicans obstructed Obama and our people for eight goddamn years in terms of meaningful legislature. Obama was a Muslim, an atheist, anything negative under the sun. But a dude who has gotten endorsements from literal nazis and klansmen and now we have to play nice and "accept" our new "President".

Fuck.

That.

It's an absolute goddamn travesty. And it's only going to encourage the Republicans to do the same thing in the future. But hey the Kardashians are on!

I think the chances are good that the filibuster is going bye-bye within the first 100 days.

Kara

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22907 on: November 09, 2016, 07:55:02 PM »
People at work...that's another story.

Strenuously maintaining a politically disinterested technocratic persona in your professional life.  :success

Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22908 on: November 09, 2016, 07:56:54 PM »
People at work...that's another story.

Strenuously maintaining a politically disinterested technocratic persona in your professional life.  :success

I could see that Patrick Bateman facade of yours difficult to parse  :-*

Phoenix Dark

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« Reply #22909 on: November 09, 2016, 08:02:39 PM »
I took today off for other reasons but apparently it was ugly. Including someone I know allegedly saying something along the lines of "would you rather vote for a woman or vote for someone who will help you afford to start a family" to a female coworker.
 :success

I'm also expecting plenty of "I can't wait to see how much I'm saving this time next year" AiA types excited about the return of deficit busting tax cuts.
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brawndolicious

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22910 on: November 09, 2016, 08:08:05 PM »
Everybody needs to settle down a bit and stop the filibuster-hyping and revolution having delusions. That shit can happen AFTER there is a 21st century inquisition. Otherwise no one is going to be bothered to vote.

Let the economy hit a depression, foreign relationships crumble, and racism/sexism pervade as a legitimate policy. People found those ideas so hard to believe that until they see it, there is nothing to be done. Just sit and wait for all the shit to hit the fan before trying to fix it.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #22911 on: November 09, 2016, 08:11:12 PM »
I took today off for other reasons but apparently it was ugly. Including someone I know allegedly saying something along the lines of "would you rather vote for a woman or vote for someone who will help you afford to start a family" to a female coworker.
 :success

I'm also expecting plenty of "I can't wait to see how much I'm saving this time next year" AiA types excited about the return of deficit busting tax cuts.

I hope my cousin isn't an AiA type. One of those black people. I think he might be. Thanksgiving gonna be something else, I tell you what.
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Kara

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22912 on: November 09, 2016, 08:22:27 PM »
People at work...that's another story.

Strenuously maintaining a politically disinterested technocratic persona in your professional life.  :success

I could see that Patrick Bateman facade of yours difficult to parse  :-*

 :-[ It's good to have you back.

Cindi Mayweather

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22913 on: November 09, 2016, 08:22:55 PM »
http://www.al.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/11/klan_will_hold_trumps_promises.html

But calling trump supporters racist - a fact - is why trump was elected!

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/09/donald-trump-pledges-sign-anti-lgbtq-first-amendment-defense-act/

But trump isn't anti-LGBTQ he waved a rainbow flag!
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Van Cruncheon

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22914 on: November 09, 2016, 08:33:26 PM »
among the seattle technorati trump voters, this election was all about shitvoting -- throwing a rock through the window and going FUCK YOOOOOOOOO to the establishment. why? because lulz beat responsible earnestness any ol' day, and damn the consequences.

that women, minorities, and lgbt peeps might get hurt? OH DON'T BE SUCH A STICK IN THE MUD, WHAT COULD GO WRONG AH HAW HAW HNARF IT'S JUST POLITICS (as they lick each others' buttholes)

and folks told me bernie bros were progressives. mm hm. nope, just privileged shitbertarians.

the only folks that are worse are the LET'S SEND A MESSAGE TO WASHINGTON!!!! do-rights <wide-eyed po'bucker cluelessness, cigarettes drooping from their slack jaws as realization dawns belatedly>
« Last Edit: November 09, 2016, 08:40:48 PM by Van Cruncheon »
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VomKriege

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« Reply #22915 on: November 09, 2016, 08:35:24 PM »
That's a vivid description of Seattle  :cody
ὕβρις

Boredfrom

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« Reply #22916 on: November 09, 2016, 08:36:02 PM »
and folks told me bernie bros were progressives. mm hm. nope, just privileged shitbertarians.

Good luck in 2020

Van Cruncheon

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22917 on: November 09, 2016, 08:43:41 PM »
let's look at the positives, libruhs: how shook is gaf?
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benjipwns

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22918 on: November 09, 2016, 08:47:04 PM »
let's look at the positives, libruhs: how shook is gaf?
I don't know if even you could have made it more shaken.

People are discussing whether or not it's even worth it to have kids anymore. And complaining because Obama didn't call for overturning the election.

Van Cruncheon

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Re: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE
« Reply #22919 on: November 09, 2016, 08:47:29 PM »
spectacular. <closes github; unzips pants>
duc