Author Topic: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: I don't know what I just saw (Read 565421 times)

bork · « **Reply #3900 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:40:37 PM »

Shut up, Cole. Let JR go.

bork · « **Reply #3901 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:42:17 PM »

WTF?

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3902 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:54:37 PM »

lmfao what the fuck

bork · « **Reply #3903 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:56:44 PM »

OK, yeah, it does sound a bit muted. The crowd's massive UNDERTAKER chant was lower than it should have sounded to me.

bork · « **Reply #3904 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:59:19 PM »

Ramen wins

He acted heelish during the match, which was smart.

What was that brief dialogue exchange at the end there, I wonder?

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3905 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:59:44 PM »

There's zero crowd noise right now either way

archie4208 · « **Reply #3906 on:** April 02, 2017, 11:59:51 PM »

Boring.

The show fell off a cliff after the Hardyz

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3907 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:01:07 AM »

That ending was lame. I was hoping he would have actually hit the piledriver on taker

bork · « **Reply #3908 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:03:32 AM »

They should have turned Reigns heel. This would have been the perfect match to do so.

The match was

but I don't blame Reigns for that. Taker needs to hang it up.

Quote from: archie4208 on April 02, 2017, 11:59:51 PM

Boring.

The show fell off a cliff after the Hardyz

Yeah, that match was the clear highlight IMO.

Stro · « **Reply #3909 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:06:47 AM »

That match was bad. Taker botching all of his main spots besides the chokeslam, being completely gassed minutes in, even fucking up the finish. Thank god this is the end for him. Out there embarrassing himself on the grandest stage. May he finally retire in Pensacola.

dkdk · « **Reply #3910 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:06:50 AM »

such an appropriate gif for the WWE

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3911 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:09:18 AM »

Quote from: Dosukebe on April 02, 2017, 11:59:19 PM

Ramen wins He acted heelish during the match, which was smart.

What was that brief dialogue exchange at the end there, I wonder?

Pretty sure taker was saying "you don't have the balls"

archie4208 · « **Reply #3912 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:28:16 AM »

The two best WWE matches this weekend were tag team matches.

How about that.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3913 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:43:35 AM »

Man. Other than Brock/Goldberg, the last 1/2 to 1/3 of that ppv was the drizzling shits. Ending it with that stillbirth of a Taker/Roman match was simultaneously the most appropriate and awful ending of the show.

I honestly don't blame Roman. Taker was fucking gassed immediately, and with the way it was booked there was no way Roman was going to come out of it looking good. Just a fucking insane decision to close the show with that.

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3914 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:59:38 AM »

I just feel bad for him. He was in a bad position from the start since he was wrestling a 300 pound geriatric, so the match wasn't really expected to be too explosive, but they also went about it in the safest way possible. There's a lot of room to do interesting stuff with the "face who's actually a heel to smarks" angle imo but I have no idea what this is anymore

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #3915 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:20:29 AM »

Also glad there was no Hogan

El Babua · « **Reply #3916 on:** April 03, 2017, 05:16:59 AM »

Haven't seen the show/main event, but I hear it was a botchfest.

Might have been better off if they did it like Undertaker's first WM match against Snuka, only its Taker who gets manhandled and can't do shit against Reigns.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3917 on:** April 03, 2017, 07:28:39 AM »

Fuck, trying to remember all these matches.

Nevil/Aries - above average
Andre Battle Royal - shit, Harper should have won
Ambrose/Corbin - shit
Styles/AJ - average
Ownes/Jericho - don't even remember anything about it
Raw Womens title - boring, bad ending
Raw Tagger - pretty great, but bad ending
Cena/Miz - average
Rollins/HHH - slightly above average
Orton/Wyatt - boring as shit
Lesnar/Goldberg - pretty great, should have been main event
Smackdown Womens title - short but had some punch. Glad Naomi won it
Reigns/Taker - boring

I don't give Reigns any credit. Old as Taker is, he still did a few spots. He's still somewhat capable. Reigns just had no flair to anything he did. He went through his motions. He should have carried Taker the entire time, that's the test. Instead he just did the same boring shit.

Stro · « **Reply #3918 on:** April 03, 2017, 10:55:06 AM »

Yeah, def Roman's fault Undertaker couldn't even hit his own spots anymore and was gasping like a fish 3 minutes into the match. That's like putting the blame on Andre's opponents in 1989 for not having a good match. AJ Styles himself couldn't have made that a good match. Even Though it had the most heat and Taker would be getting that big goodbye at the end (and I myself said it should go on last), it's kind of shameful they put him into a position like that where he was obviously going to embarrass himself. It definitely didn't need to be 23 fucking minutes when it was pretty clear he couldn't go 10.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3919 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:11:06 AM »

I feel like the only match in the last 1/3 of the show they nailed was Lesnar/Goldberg. Bray/Orton had the stupid projector shit and buried Bray with the ending, which is nothing new so I don't know why I'm surprised. The SD women's match was ok but was rushed and a palate cleanser. Rollins/HHH was ok, but could have lost 5 minutes and it would have been fine. Taker/Roman was a complete fiasco, and honestly I blame whoever decided to have it go on last. Vince, I guess.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3920 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:19:07 AM »

Reigns, being the young up and comer, should be able to carry the old Taker to something halfway decent. AJ most definitely would have. Reigns is just a boring wrestler that needs a script to do anything. Look at the Tombstone reversal spot. He could have done any number of things to audible out of that, instead they tried like three times and then he panicked and did a superman punch. He's got no flair and as such the match ends up being a tired boring slog.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #3921 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:24:06 AM »

Ehhhhh. I don't think anyone was getting anything good out of Taker last night.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3922 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:33:48 AM »

Stro was right in one regard, this match didn't need 23 minutes.

Look at the Goldberg/Lesnar match. 4 minutes 33 seconds. That match has more punch, more storytelling, and was far and away more fun than Taker/Reigns.

Taker/Reigns should have been 10 minutes MAX. Nothing but powermoves and high impact spots. If you want to cement Reigns have him run circles around Taker. It was bad booking plus Reigns just not knowing what the fuck to do in a pinch.

I would suspect Goldberg would have been in the same position had his match gone 23 minutes. But at least Lesnar would have been able to carry him around.

Reigns just doesn't have the skill.

Stro · « **Reply #3923 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:36:22 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on April 03, 2017, 11:19:07 AM

Reigns, being the young up and comer, should be able to carry the old Taker to something halfway decent. AJ most definitely would have. Reigns is just a boring wrestler that needs a script to do anything. Look at the Tombstone reversal spot. He could have done any number of things to audible out of that, instead they tried like three times and then he panicked and did a superman punch. He's got no flair and as such the match ends up being a tired boring slog.

Lmao. Okay. The tombstone spot failed because Taker just plopped his ass down like a slug and had no strength to help with the move. It was probably Roman's fault Taker couldn't get him up for the Last Ride when he started the move STANDING ABOVE TAKER'S SHOULDERS.
The only reason that match was even half passible was because of Roman.

Blaming that match on Roman instead of the idea of putting a 50 something year old man who can't do cardio, can't work out, needs a hip replacement, is in agony all the time in a 23 minute match at the end of a 7 hour show is the height of toxic smarkulinity. Even prime Randy Savage couldn't get a good match out of end of the road Andre. Taker was out there wearing a fucking girdle and you're blaming Roman. Lol.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3924 on:** April 03, 2017, 12:07:50 PM »

I am by no means absolving Taker of all the blame. I'm simply saying that Roman doesn't get off scott free just because Taker is old.

archie4208 · « **Reply #3925 on:** April 03, 2017, 01:47:09 PM »

What are your post WM Raw/SD predictions bois?

Balor comes back
Angle becomes the new Raw GM

Nakamura goes to Smackdown

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3926 on:** April 03, 2017, 01:52:09 PM »

Raw:
-Sasha turns heel
-Balor comes back to challenge something, maybe Joe?
-The Revival debuts to challenge Hardys
-Angle as GM makes sense
-No Brock or Goldberg
-Reigns addresses crowd and still doesn't really turn heel

Smackdown:
-Naomi celebrates, but I don't see any return or debut here
-AJ gloats about Shane, Nak debuts maybe?
-I dunno what else... Orton is happy? Harper challenges?
-Wyatt is sad?

Stro · « **Reply #3927 on:** April 03, 2017, 02:13:14 PM »

Bret Hart had a shitty match with Terry Funk in 2000. You know who else had a shitty match with Terry Funk in 2000? Everyone else. Misawa/Kawada/Kobashi couldn't get good matches out of Baba in the 90s. Nor could they + Macho Man get a good match out of Andre from 1988 on. There comes a point where there is nothing even the best can do when their opponent is that broken down, and Taker hit that point a while ago.

So yes, I think Roman should get off scottfree because he did all the work in that match and anything memorable (in a good way) was because of his work while working against a guy 50+ year old who can barely leave his feet and was literally gasping for air 3 minutes into a 23 minute match.

nachobro · « **Reply #3928 on:** April 03, 2017, 02:28:54 PM »

yeah there's not much roman could have done there, the undertaker is just an old man and he moves like an old man. brock should have retired him a few years ago cause he looked real rough then and brock gave him a hell of a beatdown.

overall for last night i enjoyed every match other than the sd women's match (super rushed but that isn't the women's fault) and the main event. but botching a main event is par for the course for wwe in general so i guess it wasn't that shocking. if they'd actually put on brock/goldberg as the main event that would have been a hell of a way to end it.

tonight should be fun. is it a cross brand Raw? i assume not but you never know.

nachobro · « **Reply #3929 on:** April 03, 2017, 02:43:44 PM »

also this is a cool shot. if nothing else, roman has the look

need to get a gif of that stupid ass cg snake for randy's entrance too

bork · « **Reply #3930 on:** April 03, 2017, 02:43:58 PM »

Yeah, Taker is 52 and has had some nagging injuries. He should have hung it up a few 'Manias ago. Really after Brock beat him, because his matches haven't been the same since then.

Stro · « **Reply #3931 on:** April 03, 2017, 02:45:13 PM »

Raw's women's match was rushed as hell, too, but it was pretty fun anyway. I wish the segment with Nia looking like a monster would have gone on twice as long, though.

FunSlower · « **Reply #3932 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:39:35 PM »

I liked most of Mania. Seth/HHH was a masterpiece but was cursed by its placement. It was absolutely a masterpiece.

Hardys returning was unnnnnnreal, place exploded. It doesn't get much higher than that.

Bork/Goldbug was exactly what it needed to be

Taker should have left a couple years back. Roman couldn't save him. I doubt anyone could have. Glad he's finished. Jus' let it go.

AJ/Shane was much better than expected.

Bray/Randy was disappointing.

Stro · « **Reply #3933 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:44:53 PM »

Seth/HHH was absolutely awful, breh. A match built around a bum leg, HHH absolutely destroying said bum leg, and it didn't stop Seth from doing anything he'd normally do. One second he literally can't walk, literally can't hold HHH up for a bucklebomb. 30 seconds later, he's deadlifting him and running with him across the ring on his shoulders, doing a dive, and a frog splash. HHH goes back to the leg, does a PILLMANIZER, Seth is up 30 seconds later hitting the superplex > falcon arrow spot. HHH goes back to the leg in brutal fashion, Seth does a phoenix splash.

Shit was trash. Seth Rollins is a trash wrestler. HHH is also almost 50 and as great of shape as he's in, he's just as slow as Jericho at this point. The best part of the whole match was Steph quietly doing HHH's roar pose behind him during his entrance.

FunSlower · « **Reply #3934 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:48:38 PM »

I think when people go back and watch Seth/HHH they'll appreciate it far more. Seth sold his knee a LOT. It ain't perfect but it was good, and lots of little touches in there like the Kane injury spot.

Stro · « **Reply #3935 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:55:25 PM »

I just rewatched it and it was even worse the second time. Grabbing your knee for a few seconds after doing a frog splash and dive after you couldn't walk a few second prior is not selling. Doing a run up superplex > falcon arrow combo after getting the Pillmanizer is not okay because you grabbed your knee after for a few seconds. Being in that weird figure four thing for 2 minutes and then hitting a pele kick and phoenix splash is not okay because you slap your knee a couple of times. That's not selling. That match was fucking garbage. Seth getting to kick out of the pedigree, win via pedigree, get literally all of his shit in he'd hit in any match without a story of a bad leg, and Steph taking a table bump.

Yet you still got nerds on the tweeties bitching about Roman.

FunSlower · « **Reply #3936 on:** April 03, 2017, 03:57:28 PM »

Count me in the minority to "finally see Steph get her comeuppance"

She sure looked dope last night though

HHH is looking much older now, I dig that beard he has currently.

Reigns is very good. Taker was very limited. That's really all there was for it, but nerds are passing around the failed tombstone reversal like it's some LMAO ROMAN REIGNS ISN'T STRONG moment while they huff and puff bringing in groceries

Philip Cardgage · « **Reply #3937 on:** April 03, 2017, 04:04:38 PM »

Is it just that I'm older now or is wrestling really shitty now? Even HHH's entrance was lame in comparison to the past few years. I couldn't even laugh at it like I did the terminator shit.

FunSlower · « **Reply #3938 on:** April 03, 2017, 05:09:33 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on April 03, 2017, 04:04:38 PM

Is it just that I'm older now or is wrestling really shitty now? Even HHH's entrance was lame in comparison to the past few years. I couldn't even laugh at it like I did the terminator shit.

I think you're gettin' old, gramps. We're in a golden age.

Proof being Mojo Rawley winning the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royale

archie4208 · « **Reply #3939 on:** April 03, 2017, 08:10:34 PM »

"Delete"
"Fuck you Roman"
"You suck"
"Asshole"

bork · « **Reply #3940 on:** April 03, 2017, 08:14:06 PM »

Like 10 minutes of the crowd just shitting on Roman before he even talks.

Another amazing post-Mania RAW begins!

He has a new level of nuclear heat now.

bork · « **Reply #3941 on:** April 03, 2017, 08:14:58 PM »

Is barely able to say "this is my yard now" and then leaves.

Stro · « **Reply #3942 on:** April 03, 2017, 08:28:56 PM »

Roman da big dawg dawg

archie4208 · « **Reply #3943 on:** April 03, 2017, 08:57:36 PM »

The Hardys match was...a match.
The cruiserweight match started out slow but got great at the end.

Also VINCE

Stro · « **Reply #3944 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:08:21 PM »

Hardys being hired on the strength of Broken Brilliance only to be brought back as...2001 Hardy Boys is mind boggling.

archie4208 · « **Reply #3945 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:11:35 PM »

STEPHANIE OFF TV FOR AWHILE
ANGLE NEW GM

THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE OF RAW IN AGES

Quote from: Stro on April 03, 2017, 09:08:21 PM

Hardys being hired on the strength of Broken Brilliance only to be brought back as...2001 Hardy Boys is mind boggling.

Aren't they still mired in that lawsuit with TNA? They might be waiting for that to clear up before they can go ahead with it.

Stro · « **Reply #3946 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:20:17 PM »

This is the worst Raw after WM in years.

bork · « **Reply #3947 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:34:49 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on April 03, 2017, 09:11:35 PM

STEPHANIE OFF TV FOR AWHILE
ANGLE NEW GM

THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE OF RAW IN AGES

Quote from: Stro on April 03, 2017, 09:08:21 PM
Hardys being hired on the strength of Broken Brilliance only to be brought back as...2001 Hardy Boys is mind boggling.

Aren't they still mired in that lawsuit with TNA? They might be waiting for that to clear up before they can go ahead with it.

ANGLE NEW GM
REVIVAL
HARDYS
DRAFT NEXT WEEK
RAMEN ANNIHILATED BY CROWD

AMAZING RAW

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3948 on:** April 03, 2017, 09:55:43 PM »

GOD JUST DO SOMETHING WITH SASHA. FOR FUCKS SAKE

archie4208 · « **Reply #3949 on:** April 03, 2017, 10:54:01 PM »

FINN

bork · « **Reply #3950 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:16:57 PM »

Raw is continuing on the network. Looks like Goldberg is about to announce his retirement.

bork · « **Reply #3951 on:** April 03, 2017, 11:25:11 PM »

Never mind, he just brought his kid in the ring and hinted that he might be back.

Stro · « **Reply #3952 on:** April 04, 2017, 03:46:12 AM »

I ended up going to bed by the time the women's match started. Doesn't seem like things got any better. All the surprises were telegraphed long ago, crowd wasn't as hot as they normally are. When EMMA is one of your big surprises

bork · « **Reply #3953 on:** April 04, 2017, 08:34:09 AM »

Quote from: Stro on April 04, 2017, 03:46:12 AM

crowd wasn't as hot as they normally are.

That was a pretty rowdy/hyped crowd.

Stro · « **Reply #3954 on:** April 04, 2017, 08:42:32 AM »

Seems like they cooled off hard after the cruiserweight match and didn't recover to me

bork · « **Reply #3955 on:** April 04, 2017, 08:51:39 AM »

You missed a good bit of the show. They stayed pretty hot all night and were still going nuts when Goldberg came out after the show ended.

Stro · « **Reply #3956 on:** April 04, 2017, 08:58:14 AM »

SHit made me sleepy. Emma being one of the big surprises was too much for my heart to handle

bork · « **Reply #3957 on:** April 04, 2017, 09:26:28 AM »

I was playing video games for a good bit of the show after like 9:30 PM otherwise I probably wouldn't have watched it all either. Burnout after Mania. And there's still Smackdown tonight.

I did want to see what the Hardys had to say on the post show, but after the Goldberg stuff went on past 11:30, I called it a night. I see that they are staying in-character as the Hardys and ignoring all the 'broken' stuff for now. Guess there's legal issues.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #3958 on:** April 04, 2017, 09:36:14 AM »

Dark Emma means wrestling is saved.

Stro · « **Reply #3959 on:** April 04, 2017, 10:02:33 AM »

Dark Emma and Mojo gonna save WWE

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