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« Reply #3960 on: April 04, 2017, 11:31:44 AM »
Predictions for the pseudo draft next week?

AJ to Raw (his new red shirt is a clear giveaway) to feud with Balor for control of da club

Seth and Sami to Smackdown

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« Reply #3961 on: April 04, 2017, 11:46:28 AM »
Not impressed with Raw.

Regarding the Hardys, Matt is 100% sure he's legally able to use everything he came up with in TNA with maybe the music as an exception. That's a good thing to think about, too, because can you really trademark or sue someone over using the word "broken" or "delightful"? From what I've seen, it's WWE itself that is forcing him to be restrained. As time goes on, we're going to grow into it. It's going to happen, just need to wait for TNA to give up, which doesn't take long.

Emma coming back was nice, I guess. I forgot she was gone.

Regarding the "Shake-Up" (since they're not calling it a new draft) just look at who has a finished feud, especially with authority figures. I'm thinking:

Rollins to SD - cuts off the HHH/Stephanie feud
AJ to Raw - just cut the shane shit off right there
Miz to Raw - no more Danny Bryan
Cena to The Netherverse until he has some free time
Either Bray or Harper (or both) to Raw, their Orton feud is done if they want it to be. If not, definitely Harper. He has a new look.

Is Rusev hurt?

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« Reply #3962 on: April 04, 2017, 11:48:25 AM »
I'd actually like to see AJ vs Balor, I think it'd be interesting to have them feud over a NJ stable in WWE. Could be some fun fuckery with Anderson/Gallows as well.

Sami to SD and AJ to Raw are the only things that really seem pretty clear, but if you shuffle the whole roster around, keeping them on their shows could be good. I think there's a good chance New Day gets split up. Presumably Big E being solo.

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« Reply #3963 on: April 04, 2017, 11:52:15 AM »
On one hand, it feels like a good time to break the New Day up
On the other hand, they still make a crazy amount of money for WWE

Money wins. They'll be forever until the end of time

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« Reply #3964 on: April 04, 2017, 11:58:35 AM »
You break up New Day, someone's gonna fade away into obscurity. It's Kofi is what I'm saying. Keep em together until nobody cares and they all fade away into obscurity I guess.
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« Reply #3965 on: April 04, 2017, 12:19:48 PM »
Why's Sami gaining so much weight anyway? Just doesn't care. Jealous of Chris Hero?

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« Reply #3966 on: April 04, 2017, 12:35:19 PM »
I think both Kofi and Xavier fade away tbh. Kofi has already said he'd retire if New Day broke up. The Big E push will happen at some point. This seems like the right time. New Day has done everything they possibly can do.


Why's Sami gaining so much weight anyway? Just doesn't care. Jealous of Chris Hero?

Man, shit is really crazy if you watch the first few Takeovers and see how lean Sami was. I mean of course he was skinny as heck as Generico, but he put on quite a bit of muscle once he got to NXT while still staying lean. Then after the shoulder injury he's never been the same as a performer or physically. He had a brief period around WM last year where he dropped some weight but he's put it back on plus more. Probably hanging around KO too much.

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« Reply #3967 on: April 04, 2017, 12:45:39 PM »
I still think Ohno's ring gear is a rib. Maybe it's his rib, but it's a fuckin' rib. Looks hilarious. He should go with The Feast Incarnate.

Guess I never really did talk about Takeover and it got overshadowed FAST with Mania the next day. What did everyone think? WWE busted their ass giving Ruby Riot an important look but she didn't impress, it's like she stepped backwards from what all I saw of her in SHINE and STARDOM from years past. But some of that might just be because it was a mixed tag match.

I couldn't be more sick of Dillinger. Get that worthless slime outta there! Shit gimmick, not a great wrassler, and a dead story. Whoever the low-rent Captain Howdy is in Sanity needs to get a new look. That "crazed carnie" look is so 2000.

Still baffled they haven't called up Asuka yet. Actually no women got called up yet, did they? Dang. SD might be a different story but dang.

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« Reply #3968 on: April 04, 2017, 12:54:10 PM »
The triple threat tag was amazing. Everything else was completely skippable, sadly including Asuka/Ember which wasn't anything special. Never heard of Ruby Riot and wasn't impressed in the least. Agreed on Dillinger. Sanity is the WORST. The worst fucking stable WWE has ever had.

"I have a great idea. Let's hire Eric Young and give him his own "wacky and crazy" Decay stable, and then give them a super choreographed entrance where they all time their turns to the music and lights."

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« Reply #3969 on: April 04, 2017, 12:57:12 PM »
Takeover was pretty solid. I don't think there was a bad match on the card. Everything gelled pretty well and it was fun overall. AOP/Revival/DIY was super fun, especially with the constant back and forth of Revivial/DIY working together. The mixed finisher spot was awesome.

I rather enjoyed the mixed tag match as well. Had a good pace and I think it did a good job of showcasing everyone involved. I'll be interested in a Ruby Riot feud with Ember Moon the line.

Speaking of, Ember Moom/Asuka was great. I think it's the first time Ember impressed me in NXT.

Roode/Nak was fine, but I agree that they aren't really a good match. Their styles clash too much.

I'm completely unsold on Alistair Black. He looks goofy and didn't really do anything impressive.
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« Reply #3970 on: April 04, 2017, 01:04:38 PM »
I always wonder how far WWE will let a clearly EVIL gimmick go on due to their advertisers. I can't imagine some of them are thrilled at the idea of an action figure with satanic imagery on it.

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« Reply #3971 on: April 04, 2017, 01:05:42 PM »
I've been impressed with Tommy End on other shows so I'd blame that match on La Sombra, who has been nearly as big of a bust as Itami except he's been able to stay uninjured.

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« Reply #3972 on: April 04, 2017, 01:08:43 PM »
Surprisingly I heard from DA MELTZ that Andrade is ready to go main roster. I'd rather they do that than try to do the ol "if you're going to main roster you need an NXT title run first" that they do sometimes.

Look at how much Strowman benefited by not having NXT's baggage. (Aside from the Rosebud issues)

Itami's ready to go, they just need the right time to do it from what he says.

I'll just come out and say it, I feel like the only person on the internet that genuinely likes No Way Jose. He's all in on that stupid fucking gimmick and it works.

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« Reply #3973 on: April 04, 2017, 01:15:35 PM »
My girlfriend loves No Way Jose. I think he's fine. But I don't think the company has any use for another "Guy That Dances" gimmick.
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« Reply #3974 on: April 04, 2017, 01:30:59 PM »
Itami was never going to make it in NXT when they completely undercut him from the start by debuting Balor like 2 months later and making Itami seem like the weak link in the team. Then the injuries. And never being able to find a comfortable working style between stiff as fuck and soft as hell. Plus at the time he debuted he couldn't do the GTS or Busaiku Knee so he had to settle for a ....one foot dropkick as a finish. Or a double stomp, which was also being done by his partner that was clearly getting pushed far harder.

You have to wonder how different things would be today had he not got hurt the first time, as he was clearly scheduled to win the NXT title at the Beast in the East show. Balor only got it put in that spot because Itami got hurt. And that seems to make sense with how Balor was booked after winning the title, which was do absolutely nothing for 4 months. I looked it up one day. Balor had a 9 month NXT Championship reign. He had all of 4 televised defenses. Two against Joe, one against KO, one against Apollo Crews (lolwtf). It was pretty obvious they had no plans at all for Balor's reign because he wasn't planned to be the champ in the first place. You'd think they'd have given him whatever they had planned for Itami. But maybe they didn't have anything planned for him, either.

But 2004-2007 era KENTA transplanted into 2014 NXT instead of actual 2014 KENTA as Itami :whew . That could have been something else. KENTA had a few years there where he was completely unfuckablewith.

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« Reply #3975 on: April 04, 2017, 01:44:26 PM »
I can't believe Mojo won a thing

Good for him, too.

Yeah, Itami really had his legs cut out from under him. Lots of people didn't notice until it was too late because it was all "look at all this TALENT!" and not thinking of overlap.

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« Reply #3976 on: April 04, 2017, 09:02:19 PM »
NAKAMURA IS FEUDING WITH THE MIZ

I WANT OFF THIS RIDE 

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« Reply #3977 on: April 04, 2017, 09:11:51 PM »
Off? It's a great pick for his first real big boy feud in double double e.

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« Reply #3978 on: April 04, 2017, 09:35:49 PM »
NAKAMURA IS FEUDING WITH THE MIZ

I WANT OFF THIS RIDE

I think that's more of a maybe.  No telling where people will be next week.  All he did was come out and pose.  Seems like the only moment on the show so far where the crowd went really nuts.  LOL at the announcers acting like the crowd was gonna be Raw-level.
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« Reply #3979 on: April 04, 2017, 09:36:45 PM »
AJ face turn?
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« Reply #3980 on: April 05, 2017, 03:13:23 AM »
Miz getting rewarded for his great work over the past year by getting Cena and Nakamura back to back :rejoice

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« Reply #3981 on: April 05, 2017, 07:44:32 AM »
Lmao stro is the best gimmick poster ever

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« Reply #3982 on: April 05, 2017, 08:28:05 AM »
Ain't no gimmick, dawg. Miz has been a top tier talent over the past year and a half and he's getting rewarded for it. It's nice to see. No one is more traditional WWE style than Miz, so it's a good pairing for Nak to get used to being a weekly TV worker as opposed to trying to work 25 minute "epics" with Bobby "I'm a wrestler from 1987 on Prime Time Wrestling" Roode.

Miz reacting to Nak's weird faces and getting kneed in the face is going to be great.

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« Reply #3983 on: April 05, 2017, 08:58:58 AM »
Lmao stro is the best gimmick poster ever

please no references to the worst habits of wrasslegaf

Miz is a top tier talent, decent-to-good in the ring, but he can make dudes. He made Daniel Bryan, never forget.

Also, Dosukebe, I think it's happening. Can't help it. People wanna love AJ. Now it's time for them to give a reason to.

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« Reply #3984 on: April 05, 2017, 09:56:35 AM »
Stro and Slower bringing True facts. The internet might whine about Nakamura vs Miz but Nakamura is going to come out of that godlike to the mainstream WWE like Styles did. Like, I don't doubt Styles. He's one of the best of the modern era and can prove himself without a doubt but the E' still had to get him over to the mainstream audience that don't know why he's a big deal. The SD match and mini-fued he had with Miz before Mania was absolutely perfect in introducing him to the main audience of WWE and a huge part of that was because Miz was absolutely perfect in those promos and the match in making it a huge deal.     

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« Reply #3985 on: April 05, 2017, 10:24:02 AM »
Also, Dosukebe, I think it's happening. Can't help it. People wanna love AJ. Now it's time for them to give a reason to.

They need a top babyface to replace Cena on SD and it doesn't seem like it's Orton, heh.  I see AJ staying there with him, Nakamura, and Orton being the big faces.  I thought maybe Dean would be in that slot but he has fallen way the hell down the card.
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« Reply #3986 on: April 05, 2017, 10:31:46 AM »
Randy Orton should be nowhere near the main event. He's at his best in the middle of the card in a match of no importance where it's okay for him to put in minimal effort.

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« Reply #3987 on: April 05, 2017, 10:38:54 AM »
So I'm watching Joey Janelas Sprang Break because FloSlam hasn't figured you simple flash grabber extensions can access their content that's locked behind a paywall. This is maybe the worst thing I've seen since I watched one of the IWA DS deathmatch shows. Excalibur is doing commentary and constantly bitching about FloSlam's production people and hoping cops shut the show down so he can go home, they have DOORS instead of tables I presume because doors were too expensive, you can't see anything that happens outside of the ring which is great for a falls count anywhere match that spends half the match in the stands. It's amazing.

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« Reply #3988 on: April 05, 2017, 12:58:46 PM »
So I'm watching Joey Janelas Sprang Break because FloSlam hasn't figured you simple flash grabber extensions can access their content that's locked behind a paywall. This is maybe the worst thing I've seen since I watched one of the IWA DS deathmatch shows. Excalibur is doing commentary and constantly bitching about FloSlam's production people and hoping cops shut the show down so he can go home, they have DOORS instead of tables I presume because doors were too expensive, you can't see anything that happens outside of the ring which is great for a falls count anywhere match that spends half the match in the stands. It's amazing.

Doors instead of tables? Wonder if someone will do a doorknob up the ass spot.

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« Reply #3989 on: April 05, 2017, 02:28:13 PM »
https://legitshook.squarespace.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/2017/3/30/joey-janelas-spring-break

It's so hilariously bad. Excalibur calls the show and makes it hilarious most of the time, though. He has some incredible calls. This show features Scott Hall as a genie, a battle royal called the Clusterfuck that includes the Invisible Man and Glacier, Marty Jannetty vs Joey Janela with a run ins from Earl Hebner and Virgil, Dan Severn in the main event, and like 8 DOORS being broken instead of tables.




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« Reply #3990 on: April 05, 2017, 02:47:38 PM »
Huh. I saw that Scott Hall jiff on your tweeter and assumed it was from an ICP movie.

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« Reply #3991 on: April 05, 2017, 03:19:20 PM »
Oh, the door thing. Their crew went to the local hardware store and doors were cheaper than tables, so they bought a bunch of doors!
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« Reply #3992 on: April 05, 2017, 10:08:48 PM »
Miz is 100% a top guy and has been murdering it for quite a while now. He got that doofus Sandow over which, looking at what Sandow is now, seems almost impossible. His IC title run was easily the most memorable thing to happen to that belt in years. Dude deserves a run with the big title again after the work he's been putting in. Just a few years ago the idea of a Naka/Miz pairing would make me want to vomit but now I'm dying to see it.

I enjoy Bobby Roode but his match with Naka was a dud. They didn't mesh at all. Miz is one of the best guys on the roster now to get someone introduced to the WWE style, the other big one being Jericho.

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« Reply #3993 on: April 06, 2017, 03:40:06 AM »
Some info on the Superstar Shakeup from Meltzer

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AJ to Raw
New Day to Smackdown

Roman to Smackdown was previously planned, but that got nixed
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« Reply #3994 on: April 06, 2017, 04:11:42 AM »
AJ should definitely stay on SD and continue to be the face of the brand, but I get moving him to Raw. The whole Shane storyline alone seemed to be like one big reason to get him to Raw, but then they had them shake hands and have AJ say he wanted to stay on SD. As SD continues to get more viewers and people buying tickets, it seems like they'd want to keep AJ there to anchor the show and see how long they can keep that rise going. I don't think Namakura is going to be the draw for SD shows that he was for NXT shows, and I feel like moving AJ to Raw is going to do nothing but hurt SD.

Although I definitely do want to see another Roman/AJ match and a AJ/Strowman match.  :trumps

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« Reply #3995 on: April 06, 2017, 08:13:34 AM »
https://legitshook.squarespace.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/2017/3/30/joey-janelas-spring-break

It's so hilariously bad. Excalibur calls the show and makes it hilarious most of the time, though. He has some incredible calls. This show features Scott Hall as a genie, a battle royal called the Clusterfuck that includes the Invisible Man and Glacier, Marty Jannetty vs Joey Janela with a run ins from Earl Hebner and Virgil, Dan Severn in the main event, and like 8 DOORS being broken instead of tables.

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Was Virgil still wearing an nWo shirt?  :lol
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« Reply #3996 on: April 06, 2017, 08:24:21 AM »
"Shakeup" rumors:

-Roman is not moving to SD and staying on Raw.
-AJ Styles is moving to Raw.  Someone "big" will move over to SD to replace him. 
-New Day moving to SD
-Charlotte moving to SD
-Alexa Bliss moving to Raw

And the Vaudevillains are done.  Simon Gotch requested a release.
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« Reply #3997 on: April 06, 2017, 09:30:05 AM »
Get rid of Bliss. She's awful. Move her to the unemployment line.

Charlotte on SD is a big deal, lots of fresh matchups there aside from Baggy Lunch. Will be a big deal to see how that shakes out.

I think they need to rebuild Nakamura. Like Nanchoman said earlier, Roode doesn't bring out the best in Nakamura at all and their match felt off or boring, simply because Roode doesn't bring out anything in Nak America. Roode's a fine wrestler, but he doesn't bring anything out of someone like Nakamura.

New Day should be on SD, should be nice. They can get real weird over there.

A shame Styles can't continue to carry SD, but he's THE MAN.

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« Reply #3998 on: April 06, 2017, 09:58:54 AM »
Rollins to SD makes sense to me.

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« Reply #3999 on: April 06, 2017, 10:45:51 AM »
https://legitshook.squarespace.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/2017/3/30/joey-janelas-spring-break

It's so hilariously bad. Excalibur calls the show and makes it hilarious most of the time, though. He has some incredible calls. This show features Scott Hall as a genie, a battle royal called the Clusterfuck that includes the Invisible Man and Glacier, Marty Jannetty vs Joey Janela with a run ins from Earl Hebner and Virgil, Dan Severn in the main event, and like 8 DOORS being broken instead of tables.

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Was Virgil still wearing an nWo shirt?  :lol


Even better, he's wearing a NWO rip off shirt

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« Reply #4001 on: April 06, 2017, 10:58:40 AM »
Rollins and AJ swapping shows makes sense in the story line, I suppose. Beat up your boss, get booted off the show. Losing AJ will be a huge loss to SD but like Stro said, there's going to be some solid matchups ready to go for him on Raw. It's just bad timing for SD to lose both AJ and Cena. Rollins...uh...well he can't get worse! Probably. Just don't give him another program with Ambrose, please.

Charlotte and New Day on SD would completely change those two divisions in a fantastic way. Hardys can carry the Raw tag division easily and a team people care about like New Day is exactly what the SD tag division needs. Losing Charlotte is a huge blow to Raw but I think Alexa can take her place pretty well. She's small and needs some help in the ring still but her emoting and facials and promos are all excellent imo.


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« Reply #4002 on: April 06, 2017, 11:00:52 AM »
Too tweet me bro

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« Reply #4003 on: April 06, 2017, 11:17:01 AM »
WCW had some real interesting shirts

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« Reply #4004 on: April 06, 2017, 11:36:41 AM »
Just got an email about a bunch of Mid South and older NXT being added to the Network. I'll have to take a look at that Mid South this weekend

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« Reply #4005 on: April 09, 2017, 05:37:13 PM »
I would highly recommend Okada vs. Shibata from last night's New Japan show.

Probably the 3rd best match I've seen this year.

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« Reply #4006 on: April 10, 2017, 09:11:47 AM »
Smh, the report that Shibata was hospitalized with the subdural hematoma after that match. I stopped watching his matches after he ramped up the headbutt shit, particularly that one to Nakajima that made me queasy. In this era where people know the effects of brain injuries, this dude just doubled down and added violently stiff hardway busting headbutts to his repertoire of fake fighting for...what? To show that he's a bad ass?

This goof threw a headbutt so hard in a worked wrestling match that he had to have brain surgery afterwards.   :crazy

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« Reply #4007 on: April 10, 2017, 12:59:51 PM »
Fucking idiots. Completely against that, and won't watch it based on principle. If you're doing stupid shit just to appear to be a badass, nah. I'm out.

Sure, I might miss the MOTY, but that really is a blemish for me and something I don't want to see. It's different when it's CZW and it's a party of stupidity, but it KNOWS it's stupid.

Fucking stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.

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« Reply #4008 on: April 10, 2017, 02:08:55 PM »
Reading that WWE is doing their best to keep the roster switches a big secret this time and that the talent don't know where they're headed, either.  Isn't that how it always is?

Seems to be set that AJ is headed to Raw, though, and that Nakamura will take his place as a top babyface on SD.  Nobody seems to know if Reigns is moving over for sure or not.

And then rumors are that Charlotte AND Sasha are going to SD, with Alexa and someone else (Becky?) taking their place on Raw. 

And wow, people are really coming out now to call JBL a big asshole for his childish behavior and bullying.  Mauro is done with WWE.  I loved Meltzer saying how hypocritical the Be A Star people are, knowing the shit that goes on in the WWE, but keeping their association with them anyway.  :lol
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« Reply #4009 on: April 10, 2017, 02:19:29 PM »
Reading that WWE is doing their best to keep the roster switches a big secret this time and that the talent don't know where they're headed, either.  Isn't that how it always is?

Seems to be set that AJ is headed to Raw, though, and that Nakamura will take his place as a top babyface on SD.  Nobody seems to know if Reigns is moving over for sure or not.

And then rumors are that Charlotte AND Sasha are going to SD, with Alexa and someone else (Becky?) taking their place on Raw. 

And wow, people are really coming out now to call JBL a big asshole for his childish behavior and bullying.  Mauro is done with WWE.  I loved Meltzer saying how hypocritical the Be A Star people are, knowing the shit that goes on in the WWE, but keeping their association with them anyway.  :lol

Well Be A Star is a WWE creation, so it's not like it's some serparate charity, so there's nothing they would do besides disappear if WWE wanted to. But I digress.

What sounds like it's set in stone is Charlotte to SD, AJ to Raw, Bliss to Raw, New Day to SD. Which is good, those moves make sense. Roman is undecided as I heard last. They can always bring Roman back to Raw when they want.

From what I hear they keep most of it under wraps hard because they want legitimate reactions from the people drafted or changed, which is dope. I like legit surprise.

I did cancel my Network sub over the Ranallo situation. I don't like his commentary but that shit doesn't matter. Money is the language WWE speaks, and if I gotta let them go, I gotta let them go. I have too much to watch anyway.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4010 on: April 10, 2017, 02:20:25 PM »
The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.

Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.

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« Reply #4011 on: April 10, 2017, 02:29:01 PM »
The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.

Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.

It's a bit different because JBL is targeting an announcer. People feel that the wrestlers going after each other, well, that's a little easier.

I won't lie, I feel strongly about this due to the fact that Mauro's got problems, and there shouldn't be a stigma for that. So I'm a little more outspoken of this instead of the time they put donuts in Gallows' ass cheeks and made people eat them down at FCW.

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« Reply #4012 on: April 10, 2017, 02:52:08 PM »
Well Be A Star is a WWE creation, so it's not like it's some serparate charity, so there's nothing they would do besides disappear if WWE wanted to. But I digress.

It is?  :lol  WTF was Meltzer going on about, then? :rofl

The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.

Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.

I never heard that story about Justin Roberts' passport being stolen before all this.  That shit is unforgivable (and possibly illegal?).  Amazing that Vince just laughed along with "the boys" too. 

Dave was saying that when you're kids, you tend to just kind of step back and watch stuff happen or even yell "fight!  fight!" but shit like that shouldn't be tolerated with adults. 

If he was ripping on Coach for saying he wouldn't cover wrestling because the guys doing bad shit were his buddies, but then essentially about to do the same thing...that's pretty funny.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4013 on: April 10, 2017, 02:54:49 PM »
Well, WWE and Be A Star, there's a great amount of irony there. Probably what Meltzer was meaning. They're not like, an outside group to my knowledge. Now I gotta make sure.

"WWE's anti-bullying initiative"

Yep

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« Reply #4014 on: April 10, 2017, 03:01:52 PM »
Well, WWE and Be A Star, there's a great amount of irony there. Probably what Meltzer was meaning. They're not like, an outside group to my knowledge. Now I gotta make sure.

"WWE's anti-bullying initiative"

Yep

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4015 on: April 10, 2017, 04:44:24 PM »
The thing is, everyone has known about JBL being a piece of shit for 20 years. None of these stories are new or anything. People treating it like saying mean things to a guy with a mental issue is as bad or worse than threatening to rape dudes for years. If Mauro was just a regularly, mentally healthy guy, this would be such a non story, just like all the other times.

Even Dave's reasoning for doing the story was because he saw a handicapped kid get into a fight in 5th grade and didn't do anything about it. So in his mind, he's seeing Mauro as this special kid who can't defend himself, and even then he outright said he didn't blame JBL, but the culture of the company and higher ups. While also calling JBL a gutless coward. And then saying he didn't want to run the story and wasn't going to run it until people basically begged him to because if he didn't no one would, but he was content to not run it for the same reasons Coach will no longer do wrestling segments, yet feels like he has the high ground to talk shit about that for some reason.

It's a bit different because JBL is targeting an announcer. People feel that the wrestlers going after each other, well, that's a little easier.

I won't lie, I feel strongly about this due to the fact that Mauro's got problems, and there shouldn't be a stigma for that. So I'm a little more outspoken of this instead of the time they put donuts in Gallows' ass cheeks and made people eat them down at FCW.

He's targeted plenty of non wrestlers. From referees to ring announcers to on screen authority figures to broadcast partners. People are treating this with kid gloves because they know Mauro has some issues, but who is to say the others didn't? A few weeks before this people were glad that Mauro was off TV because they were sick of him, now they're canonizing him as if he's the only one that has suffered at the hands of JBL.

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« Reply #4016 on: April 10, 2017, 05:01:44 PM »
I'm glad Mauro's off TV, but not for the same reasons. I just simply never really heard much of the other instances. Now, this is pretty front and center. Between that and Justin Roberts' book, there's been some light shone on it. It's easy to forget it happens, because we just watch it, we don't live it.

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« Reply #4017 on: April 10, 2017, 05:53:53 PM »
Just to be devil's advocate:

https://web.archive.org/web/20081008094437/http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/10/07/big-john-leaves-fight-network-mauro-ranallo-outed-as-scumbag/


"Loretta left, Randy had his issues with the company and it’s direction, I took off, 20 others were fired, and to be honest I think they have 2 on air staff at this point in time. Mauro Ranallo and John Ramdeen-who had zero on camera experience before being shoved in front of it due to lack of staff. I won’t even get into Mauro, we’d be here all day discussing everything from potential sexual harassment charges to public intoxication. As it stands now, the new CEO was fired last month as was his right hand cronie. The original CEO was a great man with expert vision and direction, he knew his way around a boardroom like a champ and actually cared about people. He’ll be missed."

"I’m shocked that it took TFN that long to lose the UFC credentials, considering when you put Mauro at a dinner table with 3 female PR Reps from Zuffa and he proceeds to tell them to their faces that they are “…dumb c#$ts, who know nothing about MMA and never will” you’d think it would’ve been at THAT point UFC would’ve banned TFN due to his antics. And that was just one of several incidents in Columbus during that weekend…

I was also present for an altercation in which Mauro physically attacked a fellow employee for no reason what-so-ever. If I’m not mistaken, it was due to the employee simply asking him a question about an upcoming report that was to be filmed for the ‘Knockout News’ feature. Mauro snapped and dived at him and had to be restrained by several people in the office. As for my “beef” with the guy, it can’t even be classified as such. It’s just my complete and utter disgust with all that he does, he’s not at all professional, treats people he feels are under him like garbage and is without question, thee worst company spokesman/on air rep that one could have..."


Perhaps this is what DM meant when he was talking about Mauro not being an angel and having a certain kind of personality.


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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4018 on: April 10, 2017, 05:59:49 PM »
:yeshrug

that's nice ammo for me when I say he sucks, I guess. It just doesn't really...I dunno, he sucks! Yes, of course. But I don't really feel like it applies at all.

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« Reply #4019 on: April 10, 2017, 06:05:23 PM »
He sucks because he sucks, yes. But that goes to show that he doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves because he's bipolar. Dude used to get fucked on opium and valium before mouthing off to Yakuza members and trying double legs on fighters in Japan.