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« Reply #4260 on: May 31, 2017, 09:47:27 AM »
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.

There's just too much of it now.  I know I can watch edited versions on Hulu and the other shows whenever on the Network, but most of it just isn't very compelling and I also prefer to watch stuff live.  I pretty much just watch PPVs at this point and sometimes watch RAW and Smackdown.  The latter definitely being better than the former.  And even then, when this stuff is on, I'm usually playing games with it on in the background.

I actually have yet to watch a single 205 Live or UK-related show and rarely ever watch NXT apart from the specials.
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« Reply #4261 on: May 31, 2017, 09:48:56 AM »
You aren't missing much by skipping NXT and 205 (well I can't speak for 205 since I stopped watching that too :lol) but Smackdown is still pretty good

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« Reply #4262 on: May 31, 2017, 10:02:21 AM »
The Fashion Police are the best thing in the WWE right now, heh.
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« Reply #4263 on: May 31, 2017, 10:21:16 AM »
I think at this point it's very safe to label 205 Live as a failure. Its stars don't feel like stars.

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« Reply #4264 on: May 31, 2017, 10:23:48 AM »
The commercial for it on SD last night featured Sasha Banks and it made me laugh. How has WWE not managed to make even one of these dudes marketable?

They almost had it for Gallagher but then they made him do the umbrella jump thing for every match and people stopped caring.

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« Reply #4265 on: May 31, 2017, 10:30:13 AM »
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The commercial for it on SD last night featured Sasha Banks and it made me laugh. How has WWE not managed to make even one of these dudes marketable?

They almost had it for Gallagher but then they made him do the umbrella jump thing for every match and people stopped caring.

I don't know about everyone else, but I never cared to watch it because they keep featuring these guys in matches on RAW. 

Man, poor Sasha.  Fallen so far down the card now.
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« Reply #4266 on: May 31, 2017, 10:43:09 AM »
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.

I have nothing but time, but I just got realized that for the last couple years I've been waiting for some kind of 'oh shit' moment, or some angle that's actually interesting and not incredibly predictable, and that probably isn't happening anytime soon. It got to the point where watching just felt like homework

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« Reply #4267 on: May 31, 2017, 12:19:42 PM »
Sasha, if you give her the benefit of the doubt, is in a holding pattern right now

Realistically, I think she might be about done. She's lost something pretty major and I don't know if she can get it back.

205 Live is poison. The CWC was a lot hotter, so you can't just say "Well, people don't know these dudes!" they've been going at this since what, November or December? People know them now. They just don't care.

I have an interesting question - imagine a 325 Live where only big folks wrassle. Would you watch that sooner than you'd watch 205?

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« Reply #4268 on: May 31, 2017, 01:16:08 PM »
Realistically, I think she might be about done. She's lost something pretty major and I don't know if she can get it back.

She needs a heel turn.

imagine a 325 Live where only big folks wrassle.



Vince would lose control of his bodily functions over that one.
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« Reply #4269 on: May 31, 2017, 02:15:57 PM »
205 Live is failing for a few reasons.

1. WWE has always done their shows like the circus, with a little of everything for everyone. If you don't like the bears, you can watch the trapeze artists. If you don't like the lion tamer, you can watch the clowns. Now they've decided to make each niche the main show, which is why the UK show is going to do just as bad (plus they have a lot of SHITTY talent outside of Dunne/Bate), and a women's only show if one comes after the tournament. Individual niche promotions almost never work and always have to branch out into adding different types of matches/talent to balance out if they want to grow/stay open. See: FMW, BJW, Michinoku Pro, IWA (all versions around the world).

2. This is an era where content is king in all fields. If you do a podcast, you have to constantly keep pumping shit out. If you do a blog, you have to constantly keep pumping shit out. You basically have to overflood your own market otherwise your audience will find something else that gets their attention. This leads to WWE producing nearly 9 hours of new content per week, plus whatever they're doing for the Network, which is pretty constantly updated with new, first run content just to have it. Content content content. This isn't only a WWE problem, either. I've been trying to keep up with NJPW as it happens this year and they have just as much shit pumped out as WWE. Even skipping Road To... shows AND no longer watching things before intermission, the shows are still 2 1/2-3 hours long. In the case of things like the G1/NJ Cup/BOSJ, you've got shit spread out over 10+ shows sometimes, so even picking and choosing which talents you want to watch means you're still going to have to go through 5 or 6 shows. There's too much to keep up with from just one wrestling promotion at a time, let alone multiple, plus TV/Movies/Games/Music/Life.

3. Even if everyone on WWE Network was watching 205 Live, it's still just 1/3rd of the audience. For most live crowds, the time they see cruiserweights on Raw or after SD are the only time they've seen them. I think that's a big reason why 205 Live has dragged out their storylines for so long, because it's basically a new audience every week, so they essentially just run the same angle over and over. At SD, by the time they finally see the cruiserweights, they've been there close to 3 hours, half the audience needs to leave because they have to work or get their kids to school in the morning, and the ones that are left are tired and numb. For Raw crowds, I think having to get an extra long video package or backstage segment before and after the cruiserweights come out so they can get the ring changed kills any momentum the shows could have.

4. The cruiserweights being suck in their own universe only competing against the same small group of guys means there is no upward mobility and nothing they do matters. WCW cruiserweights frequently competed with bigger talents, and the guys that were good and popular enough would start going up the ranks and competing for the TV/US/Tag titles. This is not a possibility for the cruiserweights as it stands, so all of their work, no matter how good, is ultimately meaningless for them and fans. On top of this, WWE spent most of the past decade+ working on making guys who traditionally would have been cruiserweights into valid WWE Champions and immediately took a giant step back to pigeonhole everyone of a certain size as too small to compete with heavyweights again. This is after Benoit/Eddie/Rey/Bryan/Balor/Rollins before HGH/Jericho/Punk/AJ/Jeff Hardy/Christian were champions.

It's definitely not that the guys on 205 Live are having heavyweight style matches with chin locks and no flips (except for the one or two guys who do that to get heel heat). They're doing the craziest shit on any show every week. Niche products/shows have niche audiences. The audience that wanted 205 Live was much smaller than they anticipated coming out of the CWC, which is not a sustainable year round concept to begin with.


WWE could have NXT as a brand with KENTA, Chris Hero, Tommy End, La Sombra, Neville, Tyler Bate, Pete Dunne, Asuka, Athena, Nikki Storm, Ciampa, Gargano, Akira Tozawa, Cedric Alexander, Austin Aries (if you absolutely have to, I guess), Jack Gallagher, Máscara Dorada, Rich Swann, Spanky, Drew McIntyre, Roderick Strong, and Biff Busick. Instead, you've got them all spread out across 3 different "brands", while filling in the gaps with shitbirds like Eric Young, TJP, those bland dudes from Australia/NOAH, and the ultimate euro cunt piece of shit Noam Dar.
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« Reply #4270 on: May 31, 2017, 02:48:06 PM »
WWE could have NXT as a brand with KENTA, Chris Hero, Tommy End, La Sombra, Neville, Tyler Bate, Pete Dunne, Asuka, Athena, Nikki Storm, Ciampa, Gargano, Akira Tozawa, Cedric Alexander, Austin Aries (if you absolutely have to, I guess), Jack Gallagher, Máscara Dorada, Rich Swann, Spanky, Drew McIntyre, Roderick Strong, and Biff Busick. Instead, you've got them all spread out across 3 different "brands", while filling in the gaps with shitbirds like Eric Young, TJP, those bland dudes from Australia/NOAH, and the ultimate euro cunt piece of shit Noam Dar.

That sounds awesome.  I'd watch that!
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« Reply #4271 on: May 31, 2017, 05:01:59 PM »
Also these fuccbois obsessed with WWE's ratings and specifically with WWE dying off soon are hilarious.

1. That they have any stake in this is bizarre as hell to begin with
2. That they actively follow the ratings slide and talk about how much they want WWE to close (while still watching WWE, of course) thinking it will be a positive thing for the industry instead of completely killing it in the US and impacting every talent in the world as WWE is  the only place to make the biggest money possible in the industry.

These are people who think NJPW can sell out MSG and probably think the Arena Football League/Euro Leagues are being held back and would blow up if the NFL/NBA went down tomorrow, though. And all this hatred and obsession inevitably comes down to "Fuck Vince for hiring my favorite guy, paying him way more money, and giving him a magnitudes larger platform to ply his trade and entertain me, but didn't give them a fake title for being the best at fake fighting".

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« Reply #4272 on: June 01, 2017, 09:19:13 AM »
I'd love it if Stro's roster selection would be its own thing, like NXT, and embrace gimmicks a lot more. Make it its own universe, so to speak. No crossover unless major major shit. That means no you don't bring out poor Rich Swann to job to Strowman because he needs someone to feed off of.

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« Reply #4273 on: June 01, 2017, 10:02:52 AM »
Impact Wrasslin' revived the X-Division title and just put it on Sonjay Dutt after an event in India.  I wonder why?  :doge

And damn, Nia Jax putting Raw creative on blast:
https://twitter.com/NiaJaxWWE/status/869723506346528768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Frajah.com%2Fnode%2F56499
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« Reply #4274 on: June 01, 2017, 02:45:54 PM »
I stopped watching Wrestling a while ago mostly because there's way too much wrestling going on. For me to keep up is to sacrifice a bunch of my other interests.

I have nothing but time, but I just got realized that for the last couple years I've been waiting for some kind of 'oh shit' moment, or some angle that's actually interesting and not incredibly predictable, and that probably isn't happening anytime soon. It got to the point where watching just felt like homework

I did the same around the godawful "Ruthless Aggression" era only to be reeled back by the Pipe bomb. At this point there's youtube and shit where if a big, cool thing does happen it'll probably be linked in this thread. So at least the internet is advanced enough where I can look up good moments when they happen and I actually start giving a damn again.

The pipe bomb seeded my re-interest in wrestling after over a decade, and I have a weird FOMO thing for massively broadcast live events, so I eventually I got really into watching it live every week. That paid off occasionally, but for the most part I don't feel like I'm missing out on a lot anymore. Like you said, I can just follow live threads and TotalDivasEps or whatever and basically not miss anything I would have gotten from actually watching it. "Oh cool maggot projections, wonder if there will be anything worth watching from this match besides that"

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« Reply #4275 on: June 01, 2017, 04:03:02 PM »
Fuck the pipebomb. It sucked then and it sucks now. If Russo had been in the company when that went down, it'd still be a punchline 15 years later.

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« Reply #4276 on: June 01, 2017, 04:34:32 PM »
I basically feel like I'm missing out on seeing AJ put on good to great matches and not much else. I have a friend with a network subscription that has people over for every ppv, and if AJ is booked against someone that I think he'll have a great match with, I go over to watch. Otherwise I read recaps of Raw/SD and just don't give a shit.

What it boils down to is that WWE is doing what they think is best. A lot of people (enough to continue funding the company?) agree and watch. I don't and don't watch for the most part. Their product is fine but not for me.
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« Reply #4277 on: June 02, 2017, 10:29:01 AM »
If you came in from the pipe bomb promo (the second one he did, the WWE one he rehashed) - I'm sorry the rest of everything was kinda crap. It was a rough time. Not as rough as a year or two before, but hey.

Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.

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« Reply #4278 on: June 02, 2017, 10:51:42 AM »
What it boils down to is that WWE is doing what they think is best. A lot of people (enough to continue funding the company?) agree and watch. I don't and don't watch for the most part. Their product is fine but not for me.

But even then, their ratings continue to decline.  I wonder if the network subs have improved?

I still pay for a sub since PPVs are about the only thing I really enjoy still watching.  But I gotta say, even those are starting to get tiring and there's just too many now.  I don't really care about Extreme Rules this Sunday but I'll watch I guess.  I mean, at this point...I don't care what anyone in the main event is doing, and whoever wins (probably Balor) is going to get fed to Lesnar and lose, since they still have him penciled in to feud with Strowman.
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« Reply #4279 on: June 02, 2017, 11:03:31 AM »
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.

Only vaguely remember this, but I remember some good promos.  I miss Big Dave.
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« Reply #4280 on: June 02, 2017, 11:06:29 AM »
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.

Only vaguely remember this, but I remember some good promos.  I miss Big Dave.

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« Reply #4281 on: June 02, 2017, 11:14:19 AM »
BOTSJ has kind of sucked. Marty Scurll in particular has REALLY sucked. Holy shit that dude is garbage.

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« Reply #4282 on: June 02, 2017, 12:09:47 PM »
If you came in from the pipe bomb promo (the second one he did, the WWE one he rehashed) - I'm sorry the rest of everything was kinda crap. It was a rough time. Not as rough as a year or two before, but hey.

Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.

I know the pipe bomb was a rehash of the ROH one.

And from what I know Batista's monster heel run lasted like a month, so if it was that good it didn't last long like everything in WWE.

Oh no no no! It lasted from Survivor Series through Mania, to Over the Limit where he "retired" - you had more than six months of Prime Dave. It's so good. Everything kicks off with YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE MAH FRIEEEEEEND! and lasted through "IIIIIIIIIII QUITTTTTTTTTTTTTT" So goddamned good.

Also, a really cool thing I found today was an interview with Jinder Mahal on how he worked on his physique, what he eats, and more. It's a very good article.
http://www.gq.com/story/jinder-mahal-wwe-real-life-diet?mbid=social_facebook

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« Reply #4283 on: June 02, 2017, 04:11:34 PM »
My mistake. I was under the impression he only did it for a little while before facing Cena at Mania.

It's so worth watching. Especially this promo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slpDUOZWHlE

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« Reply #4284 on: June 02, 2017, 04:21:00 PM »
https://twitter.com/Strobogo/status/870736920816627716

My coverage of the first half of the BOTSJ tour. Idk, I feel like all the matches are basically interchangeable since everyone has a Canadian Destroyer/apron move/pumphandle move/corner move/fireman's carry set up/fancy counter move. Also, Marty Scurll is Taichi-tier awful. God. I can't believe anyone has ever hyped him up. If he was doing his shtick in WWE, he'd be SAVAGED. There are some neat gifs, I guess.

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« Reply #4285 on: June 03, 2017, 02:40:00 AM »
Yall missed Heel Batista's monster run. It was the best thing.

Only vaguely remember this, but I remember some good promos.  I miss Big Dave.

Let me feed you!

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« Reply #4286 on: June 03, 2017, 02:47:54 AM »
The duct tape promo is the most hilarious heel promo in history, imo. The delivery on every single word is amazing.

I distinctly remember how excited Sunny was for Batista's return in 2014, only for him to come back to a feud with ADR. Sorry for your loss, boss. Bateaser is so weird, because you can see why they pushed him as a super face based on how he comes off in stuff like GOTG and interviews, but he's SO much better as a heel that you at the same time have to wonder why they'd ever try to make him a face. There were a good 5 years of completely wasted space where he should have been in Edge's spot as the top heel of SD.


Because the time period of his heel run(s) was dogshit, I don't have many gifs of it, but I can do what I can:







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« Reply #4287 on: June 03, 2017, 09:25:18 AM »
Okay Sunny you convinced me, I'll watch this run over the weekend during Tekken practice. I've pretty much only seen from that Mania until he quit (probably my favorite WWE quitting moments too)

Also realized Extreme Rules is this weekend. Haven't been watching Raw so I don't know what's up with it other than what the email I just got from WWE tells me. Fatal 5 Way sounds good but wtf is this Kendo Stick on a Pole Match? :lol :lol

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« Reply #4288 on: June 04, 2017, 10:43:16 AM »
Might be going to Summerslam this year. Got a connection that may be getting me tickets for free.
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« Reply #4289 on: June 04, 2017, 10:44:26 PM »
That PPV was a snoozer.  Didn't care about the main event at all.  LOL at Austin Aries sitting there smiling after he lost.

So it's Joe getting fed to Lesnar at great balls of FIRE.
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Joe's music always sounds like "angry fat man walking" to me.
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« Reply #4290 on: June 05, 2017, 04:17:23 AM »
Everyone so mad at the Alexa/Bayley match lmao

It's a straight up copy of Bayley's NXT character and angle that led her to the title. You know, the one that made her super popular and the character people have been asking for on Raw since she got called up. That angle started with her being unable to beat Becky/Sasha/Charlotte in any type of match. So Charlotte and Sasha picked on her for being a nerdy fan and a loser, but Charlotte in particular tried to motivate her to bring out the meanness she lacked and was causing her to lose. So after losing to Charlotte again, they have a rematch that played into their previous match where Bayley couldn't pull the trigger on something, she got serious and mean, and finally won. Then she beat Becky. Then she beat Sasha in Brooklyn.

This happened only 2 years ago and somehow everyone has forgotten about it and just want to complain that she's being buried and Vince/Dunn don't want to fuck her.  :beli

People have been bitching about how Raw ruined her character for the past 6 months. So now they bring it back to the NXT character the same people loved and...they're bitching that she's been ruined. In addition to always complaining about 50/50 booking and heels having to cheat to win, yet Alexa won clean twice and they're mad about that, too.


Wrassle fans  :neogaf

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« Reply #4291 on: June 05, 2017, 09:32:27 AM »
So how'd that Evil Bateaster Weekend go NWS?

Also Stro, the best jiff of Batista's heel run might be


If you asked me who was more giffable, Batista or Vince McMahon, I'll still go with Vince, but Batista is a treasure trove.

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« Reply #4292 on: June 05, 2017, 10:53:27 AM »
JOE VS BROCK LETS GOOOOOOO!

And I didn't quite finish the run up to him quitting but I have a three day weekend so I'll keep going today, heh. But it definitely gave me a new appreciation for how good Batista really is on the mic and as a heel. He'd be a great addition these days, that's for sure. All Big Dave has to do is show up with a popped collar and he is instantly hateable :lol

It also helps that the rest of these shows from the time period are really complete dreck. I'm okay with not having watched much wrestling during the late 2000s. Made me depressed all over again for the Beth Phoenix segments when she shows up with Santino and has to direct 4+ skinny models around while also trying to put on a decent multi-woman match.
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« Reply #4293 on: June 05, 2017, 10:56:35 AM »
Brock is obviously going to win, but I just hope he doesn't squash Joe.  If they have a competitive match it could be fucking awesome.

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« Reply #4294 on: June 05, 2017, 11:01:21 AM »
Joe showed a lot of good fire in his promo on Raw Talk. Actually enjoyed Raw Talk a lot. Miz getting into Renee's ass was pretty great, too.

Late 2000s Raw was really bad, really really bad. Bateaster was a shining star.

Pretty crazy how a couple years ago in TNA Joey Samoey and Aries were wrasslin.

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« Reply #4295 on: June 06, 2017, 06:03:31 PM »
Heard Raw was great last night

Especially the Joey Samoey segment.

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« Reply #4296 on: June 07, 2017, 09:46:14 PM »
I was watching a MSG show from late 1977 to recharge my batteries. Lol'd that everything people complain about modern WWE and Vince McMahon were clearly evident in the product FORTY years ago. When the Vince booking was Vince Sr.

Faces being cheating dickheads? Check
Heel champs being booked terribly and dominated by face challengers? Check
Guys being preordained for big pushes a year+ in advance? Check
Announcers randomly shitting on talent? Check
Tag Team champs wrestling singles matches and losing? Check

Go back farther and you can see this happening at the start of the WWWF, with Bruno getting the title and insane reign after about a month back in the company after being out of the Capitol region for 2 years prior. And then skip ahead to Hogan, who was back in the company for a month before getting the title. The Bruno/Backlund/Hogan pushes make Roman's push look slow and restrained.

Superstar defends his title against Mil Mascaras, and Mil, an outsider special attraction, DOMINATES at least 80% of the match, including overpowering Superstar multiple times to the point of breaking full nelsons and the bearhug to apply his own. Despite being a speed/technique guy against the much larger Superstar whose whole in ring style was that he was jacked and super strong. Superstar only retains his title because the match was stopped due to a cut. You've never seen a heel champ look so weak and ineffective. It's kind of amazing.  And then he'd drop the title to Backlund about 2 months later.

Idk, I like the ultra basic, kind of shitty 70s style. Where a whole 15 minute match can be centered around chokes or arm ringers and have people popping. Oh, it also featured a Martel/Harley match for the NWA Championship from the original (Australian) WCW.





 






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« Reply #4297 on: June 08, 2017, 09:12:18 AM »
Martel/Race? I'm in. Even with the more recent appreciation of Martel from a lot of people realizing how damn GOOD he was, I'm always up to heap more praise upon the guy. I reckon that match will do it.

I hate to sound like a lot of bitter old fuckers out there, but you protect moves, you don't cheapen people or moves with a crazy amount of television you run...hell, there's a lot to love in the 70s.

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« Reply #4298 on: June 08, 2017, 09:49:56 AM »
I legit went from watching BOTSJ 2017 to a show from MSG 40 years prior and enjoyed the MSG show a lot, lot more, despite it not being particularly good wrestling. Some of it was actually quite bad. But it was nice to see matches without stand offs and cartwheels out of headlocks or apron bumps because that's just what you're supposed to do to have an exciting match now. An era where Freddie Blassie can get Roman Reigns heat just taking his time to leave the ring before the match. Where no one complains about who is getting pushed or who is getting berried.

Just a simple wrestling show.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4299 on: June 08, 2017, 07:45:33 PM »
I legit went from watching BOTSJ 2017 to a show from MSG 40 years prior and enjoyed the MSG show a lot, lot more, despite it not being particularly good wrestling. Some of it was actually quite bad. But it was nice to see matches without stand offs and cartwheels out of headlocks or apron bumps because that's just what you're supposed to do to have an exciting match now. An era where Freddie Blassie can get Roman Reigns heat just taking his time to leave the ring before the match. Where no one complains about who is getting pushed or who is getting berried.

Just a simple wrestling show.

But wasn't that also still an era when most people thought it wasn't scripted?
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4300 on: June 08, 2017, 08:11:39 PM »
I legit went from watching BOTSJ 2017 to a show from MSG 40 years prior and enjoyed the MSG show a lot, lot more, despite it not being particularly good wrestling. Some of it was actually quite bad. But it was nice to see matches without stand offs and cartwheels out of headlocks or apron bumps because that's just what you're supposed to do to have an exciting match now. An era where Freddie Blassie can get Roman Reigns heat just taking his time to leave the ring before the match. Where no one complains about who is getting pushed or who is getting berried.

Just a simple wrestling show.

But wasn't that also still an era when most people thought it wasn't scripted?

Idk, you watch the show and tell me if you think everyone in that building could see those strikes and bumps and think it was totally on the level.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4301 on: June 11, 2017, 05:45:26 AM »
Anyone watching Dominion?

Kushida vs. Takahashi was amazing.

Goto vs Suzuki was a shitshow.

Everything else prior was missable.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4302 on: June 11, 2017, 07:38:25 AM »
HOLY FUCK OKADA OMEGA 2 WAS SO GOOD

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4303 on: June 12, 2017, 09:48:34 AM »
WHY DID I CLICK THAT SPOILER

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« Reply #4304 on: June 12, 2017, 06:54:26 PM »
Naito/Tanahashi outclassed Okada/Omega AGAIN. Lol. Very good show, though. Likely the best top to bottom show from any promotion this year so far. Abnormally good and entertaining undercard for NJ.

https://legitshook.squarespace.com/strobogos-wrasslin-potpourri-reviews/2017/6/12/njpw-dominion-2017

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4305 on: June 13, 2017, 07:16:13 AM »
Bray Wyatt is a scumbag?

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Bray Wyatt's wife, Samantha Rotunda, has filed for divorce in Florida accusing the WWE performer of adultery and misdeeds, according to the Daily Mail. Rotunda's lawyer names current WWE ring announcer Jojo Offerman as the person who Wyatt is having an affair with.

-- In his counter-petition for divorce filed in Hernando County, Wyatt requested an injunction to force his wife to keep quiet about the split. He claims she made 'defamatory statements about the husband to several people in the community in an effort to ruin his reputation.'

-- In Samantha's response to Bray's request for an injunction she says: 'It is a shame that the Husband would make such false claims and attempt such media gaming. Ms. Rotunda will not only prove Husband's allegation and claims are nothing more than a media ploy and endeavor to create an offense to defend his adultery and misdeeds.

-- According to Samantha's divorce petition, she and Wyatt were married in 2012 and separated in March after Wyatt allegedly walked out on her and their two daughters, 6 and 4.

People said they saw him arrive at the arena yesterday with JoJo, too.  Guess that booty was too much.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4306 on: June 13, 2017, 09:34:03 AM »
I remember when Jojo was pining after Justin Gabriel.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4307 on: June 15, 2017, 08:14:44 AM »
Okada/Omega 2 got 6.25 stars from Meltzer.

Kinda low.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4308 on: June 15, 2017, 01:31:09 PM »
LMAO

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4309 on: June 15, 2017, 01:31:41 PM »
Maybe now people will realize that his ratings are just one man's arbitrary and inconsistent opinions and people shouldn't take them seriously unless they have the same taste as him

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4310 on: June 15, 2017, 01:50:25 PM »
I ended up falling asleep before the main event so I still need to watch it, but Okada/Omega is going to have to be really good to beat Naito/Tana. That match was seriously amazing. Both dudes just beat the hell out of each other and told a hell of a story. Just Tana going hard as fuck on Naito and not even letting him take off his suit for like 5ish mins was amazing on it's own. :lol

Hopefully the main event is more than just spots. Those are fine and all, but that's basically all they did last time too.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4311 on: June 15, 2017, 03:56:27 PM »
It's the same match as the dome show but with 20 extra minutes where the psychology comes from teasing repeats of all the big spots from WK and then doing something else equally as high risk. If you enjoyed the first match, you should enjoy the rematch. Naito/Tanahashi was the better match. Again.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4312 on: June 15, 2017, 08:59:04 PM »
Maybe now people will realize that his ratings are just one man's arbitrary and inconsistent opinions and people shouldn't take them seriously unless they have the same taste as him

exactly this

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4313 on: June 17, 2017, 10:24:16 PM »
Watched the Dominion main event and Stro was right. I enjoyed the match but it definitely didn't try and tell a story like Naito/Tanahashi. Still very entertaining though, Omega and Okada worked their asses off. 100% worth watching but it's a different kind of match.

Tomorrow's show should be fun. I always enjoy a chance to see the New Day and I'm more pleased to see them now that they've taken a short break. Plus I love silly gimmick matches and they'll have MITB for both the men and the women.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4314 on: June 17, 2017, 10:54:35 PM »
I'm actually going to watch tomorrow night's show... but I'm aghast at the lack of Breezango.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4315 on: June 18, 2017, 08:19:57 AM »
Lmao PTW in 1986 is SUCH a terrible show. Like god damn, it's hard to imagine how this shit was on the air at all. So much BAD, exposing wrestling.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4316 on: June 18, 2017, 08:06:44 PM »
Time for Money In The Bank!

Rumor is there's gonna be a sixth woman in the MiTB match, either Maria coming back or Asuka.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4317 on: June 18, 2017, 08:13:54 PM »
LOL, no sixth participant?

I hope someone runs out later then.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4318 on: June 18, 2017, 08:32:12 PM »
Did they seriously just end the first ever women's MiTB match by having James Ellsworth get the briefcase and give it to Carmella?  :lol
:dead

Garbage.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #4319 on: June 18, 2017, 09:12:50 PM »
Maria and Mike...Kannelis.
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