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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9540 on: November 01, 2019, 11:48:07 PM »
That was a killer show. Them barely making it explains why Aiden was on for the first bit
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9542 on: November 02, 2019, 09:23:53 AM »
Lmao smackdown really started with showing the Brock/Cain match in full? Get fucked WWE Networkers. :lol

EDIT: I'm watching the on demand version of Smackdown straight from Xfinity and there are multiple times during the Bayley/Nikki match where the audience sound completely cuts out but the announcer audio is the only noise. It's weird as hell.
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« Reply #9543 on: November 02, 2019, 11:01:29 AM »
that happened live too. on reddit someone who attended said there was a neckbeard trying his hardest at some points to get a "refund" and "aew" chant going in the crowd so maybe it was that.

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« Reply #9544 on: November 02, 2019, 11:04:29 AM »
:dead at this Bianca beat down with Carmella just sitting there like she's on heroin

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« Reply #9545 on: November 02, 2019, 09:09:51 PM »
So the thing with most of WWE getting stuck in Saudi Arabia...


They hadn't paid Vince for the past 2 shows so Vince cut off the Saudi feed. As a result, the Crown Prince himself ordered the plane carrying WWE talent to not fly, which left them essentially held hostage for over 24 hours. A handful of people who had private flights were able to get out (Vince, Brock, Hogan, Heyman, probably other execs that fly with Vince). They're trying to push the "mechanical issues" story because the reality doesn't look good for anyone involved. So basically Vince is getting himself into a carny war with a dude who has public people he doesn't like dismembered. I'm sure it will work out well.

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« Reply #9546 on: November 02, 2019, 09:44:22 PM »
What's more carny than potentially getting a signicant amount of staff members murdered by a state government?

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« Reply #9547 on: November 02, 2019, 09:57:48 PM »
Vince thought he was going to war with AEW, instead it's with MBS :ohhh


It's really fucking crazy Vince let 70% of his employees get held hostage by a family known for murdering people in a country known as a place where foreigners get murdered by said family and the government while he flew away in his private jet to go write Smackdown. Who is ever going to trust or have faith in his word ever again? And who the fuck is going to agree to go to another KSA show?
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« Reply #9548 on: November 04, 2019, 02:42:07 PM »
AJ was streaming games this weekend and said it was some flight company BS and everyone was annoyed but not in any danger. Of course who knows who to believe but his explanation seems reasonable.

The story of "well the private flights got out" seems silly cause everyone was on private flights from the sounds of it.

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« Reply #9549 on: November 04, 2019, 02:52:45 PM »
I tried listening to Dave Meltzer talk about Saudi Arabia, and the guy is just a total mushmouth.



Asuka's new cooking video is much more lucid, and three-quarters of it is in a language I don't speak.

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« Reply #9550 on: November 04, 2019, 04:08:05 PM »
Actually known shit:

KSA is having money problems and aren't paying their debts, this extends beyond WWE. Remember like a year or two ago when they straight up did a shakedown of their richest citizens to the tune of a few billion? They hadn't paid Vince for the prior 2 shows. Not receiving these payments made WWE's financials look bad and caused a huge stock drop that lost Vince something close to $300M in a day.

MBS no-showed a one on one meeting scheduled with Vince.

The show was supposed to air live in Saudi Arabia, but Vince delayed the live feed for KSA viewers by about 40 minutes, which coincided with a mystery $60m payment.

Everyone with their own personal jets got out immediately as the show ended (Vince and presumably his inner circle of execs and production guys like Michael Hayes, Hogan/Flair apparently rode with Brock/Heyman on a separate jet), the remaining majority of talent and crew were first ordered off their plane, then were stuck on the plane for hours and not allowed off the plane, were told there were mechanical issues, and then once the issues were cleared up, there were no pilots because their shift had ended. Their flight ended up leaving over 24+ hours after the scheduled take off. A separate flight was chartered for "absolutely necessary" talent, but none of them made it back for Smackdown anyway. This is where tweets about the "Top20" came from.


So the story seems to be Vince was mad about not getting paid and held the SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY up for money (not unlike Jeff Jarrett did to Vince in 1999 :kermit ) got what he could and got the fuck out of dodge, leaving his employees behind, who were then hit with one of MBS' apparently not uncommon but thankfully not deadly tricks in disputes.

Multiple wrestlers tweeted about it like they were fearful and felt like they were being held, left behind, and didn't know if they'd make it home. Almost none tweeted about the mechanical issues. Some spouses have tweeted about it being a hostage situation of sorts. Apparently this is not uncommon to happen in Saudi Arabia when there is an issue with the royal family and contractors.

The airline put out a statement about the mechanical issue, which seems kind of weird to make a public announcement about mechanical issues on a private flight but :yeshrug

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« Reply #9551 on: November 04, 2019, 04:58:31 PM »
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    WWE® AND THE SAUDI GENERAL ENTERTAINMENT AUTHORITY EXPAND EVENT PARTNERSHIP

    STAMFORD, CONN. and RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA, November 4, 2019 – Following the historic Crown Jewel event in Riyadh, WWE (NYSE: WWE) and the Saudi General Entertainment Authority (GEA) have expanded their live event partnership through 2027 to include a second annual large-scale event. WWE and GEA also continue to work towards the completion of a media agreement in the MENA region.

    This long-term partnership demonstrates WWE and GEA's commitment to bring sports entertainment to the region and supports Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030.

sounds like sour business relationship that everyone is ready to get out of to me ::)

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Stro and Meltz are talking out of their ass

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« Reply #9552 on: November 04, 2019, 05:06:05 PM »
I don't see how they're talking out of their ass when the wrestlers themselves tweeted how bad everything was. :lol WWE was already running two shows in Saudi Arabia as it is but their contract only called for one show this is just them making it look official to make it appear everything is okay for the investors... or at least that's what the dirt sheets want you to believe lol  :doge
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« Reply #9553 on: November 04, 2019, 05:08:23 PM »
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9554 on: November 04, 2019, 05:09:23 PM »
Because plane issues taking forever and then pilots/flight crew having to quit for the day after being on the clock rather than fly 14 hours and be over their shift is very easily believable and I've had stupid shit like that happen before myself.

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« Reply #9555 on: November 04, 2019, 05:22:58 PM »
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    WWE® AND THE SAUDI GENERAL ENTERTAINMENT AUTHORITY EXPAND EVENT PARTNERSHIP

    STAMFORD, CONN. and RIYADH, SAUDI ARABIA, November 4, 2019 – Following the historic Crown Jewel event in Riyadh, WWE (NYSE: WWE) and the Saudi General Entertainment Authority (GEA) have expanded their live event partnership through 2027 to include a second annual large-scale event. WWE and GEA also continue to work towards the completion of a media agreement in the MENA region.

    This long-term partnership demonstrates WWE and GEA's commitment to bring sports entertainment to the region and supports Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030.

sounds like sour business relationship that everyone is ready to get out of to me ::)

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Stro and Meltz are talking out of their ass


:what KSA also aren't paying Canada for tanks, are cancelling other business relationships, and are racking up heavy debts because they don't have the money for all these entertainment deals they've made for the 2030 project. They hadn't paid for the previous 2 events, this isn't in dispute, it tanked WWE stock because the lack of the payment ruined their financials. WWE also acknowledged the $60m payment the day of the show, which wasn't even close to what was actually owed. The crown prince no showed a meeting with Vince. Vince started the Saudi feed 40 minutes late, Vince's crew got stranded in Saudi Arabia for a day.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9556 on: November 04, 2019, 05:36:20 PM »
and the only person who would go on the record about what happened was AJ and he didn't seem to think the delays were anything to be worried about. almost everything else around this seems to be a rumor or 2nd/3rd hand report. so again, :yeshrug

we'll see what happens next year but my bet is everyone who whined on twitter will be collecting their check so i don't really feel too bad about the whole thing.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9557 on: November 04, 2019, 05:39:09 PM »
The money stuff and MBS no showing a meeting with Vince and Vince starting the Saudi feed 40 minutes late aren't rumors. Everything else is conjecture.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9558 on: November 04, 2019, 05:41:34 PM »
the meeting thing seems to be conjecture too

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9559 on: November 04, 2019, 05:47:44 PM »
You seem like conjecture

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9560 on: November 04, 2019, 05:47:50 PM »
What ISN'T conjecture:

:money
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9561 on: November 04, 2019, 05:49:10 PM »
more like conjerkstore

also i guess i'll watch raw to see everyone there get beat up by the cool nxt boiz, especially cause the alternative is dallas/nyg :-\

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9562 on: November 04, 2019, 06:04:31 PM »
Nobody's hands are clean and all that but holy fucking shit please don't give Vince any of your money.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9563 on: November 04, 2019, 07:37:04 PM »
Unless you are a Nielsen family household you aren't giving  Vince money by watching Raw. You are doing irreparable damage to your soul and psyche though.

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9564 on: November 04, 2019, 08:41:49 PM »
Dunno why, but I got really surprised when Dio just stood up to confront Lesnar- just didn't hit me that he's a wrassler, lol. 

Then he gets destroyed by Brock, who is in turned destroyed again by...Rey Mysterio.  :lol
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« Reply #9565 on: November 04, 2019, 08:48:08 PM »
I admit, I didn't think they would continue the Rey vs Brock feud.

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« Reply #9566 on: November 04, 2019, 08:48:28 PM »
Rey: "At survivor series, are you gonna be man enough to come after me, like I came after you?!"

Note that there were several segments where Brock was going all over the arena looking for Rey, who finally showed up out of nowhere with a baseball bat to attack Brock  :doge
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9567 on: November 04, 2019, 09:02:35 PM »
Man, this crowd just wants to boo the fuck out of Seth Rollins.

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« Reply #9568 on: November 04, 2019, 09:02:58 PM »
Seth Rollins out to tell you why he has nothing to do now and everything is a waste of time
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« Reply #9569 on: November 04, 2019, 09:03:24 PM »
SETH ROLLINS HAS LOST HIS SMILE
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« Reply #9570 on: November 04, 2019, 09:03:42 PM »
Blah blah blah STFU and bring out NXT
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« Reply #9571 on: November 04, 2019, 09:08:19 PM »
HHH needs to stop acting like he's Mr. NXT (even though he is, lol)- should have had it be Regal.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9572 on: November 04, 2019, 09:08:59 PM »
They're gonna do Rey vs Brock at Survivor Series instead of involving Brock in brand war bullshit? :lol The world needed Brock vs Fiend vs Adam Cole for the lulz

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9573 on: November 04, 2019, 09:09:22 PM »
Are we in a bad reenactment of Hamlet or something?

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« Reply #9574 on: November 04, 2019, 09:09:38 PM »
They're gonna do Rey vs Brock at Survivor Series instead of involving Brock in brand war bullshit? :lol The world needed Brock vs Fiend vs Adam Cole for the lulz

Can't see Brock siding with anyone.  Makes sense.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9575 on: November 04, 2019, 09:10:18 PM »
The Shield UNDISPUTED ERA about to storm the ring
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9576 on: November 04, 2019, 09:11:00 PM »
Are we getting The OC versus The UE?!
 :omg
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« Reply #9577 on: November 04, 2019, 09:12:48 PM »
This is somehow more hokey than the Team Flair vs Team Hogan shit.  :lol

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9578 on: November 04, 2019, 09:12:51 PM »
They're ignoring heel/face alignments and just making it brand versus brand.  Fucking ROWAN is out there to save the OC and Rollins  :lol
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9579 on: November 04, 2019, 09:14:10 PM »
They're ignoring heel/face alignments and just making it brand versus brand.  Fucking ROWAN is out there to save the OC and Rollins  :lol

"Please ignore the shitty work we've done to establish characters, alliances, etc because the label on someone's shirt is of paramount importance"

So dumb
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9580 on: November 04, 2019, 09:15:54 PM »
You know what though?  NXT being added makes it feel fresh.  Ultimately I am certain WWE will disappoint -that's one thing they're the masters of- but at least TV feels fun again with these segments.  Curious if we see any dubya dubya 'E run-ins on NXT this week.
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« Reply #9581 on: November 04, 2019, 09:18:04 PM »
Are we in a bad reenactment of Hamlet or something?

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9582 on: November 04, 2019, 09:19:03 PM »
HHH making Adam Cole work- Rollins gets an NXT title shot tonight.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9583 on: November 04, 2019, 09:19:47 PM »
What happened to the steel cage match between Rollins and The Fiend?  :lol

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« Reply #9584 on: November 04, 2019, 09:20:38 PM »
What happened to the steel cage match between Rollins and The Fiend?  :lol

Was this announced at Smackdown last week?  Don't even remember lol.
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9585 on: November 04, 2019, 09:21:23 PM »
That info graphic for Corey Graves makes his beard blend with his tattoos.  Like he has a fucked up neckbeard.
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« Reply #9586 on: November 04, 2019, 09:22:09 PM »
What happened to the steel cage match between Rollins and The Fiend?  :lol

Was this announced at Smackdown last week?  Don't even remember lol.

It was a promo ad during Smackdown last friday, yes.
https://twitter.com/PerchedTopRope/status/1190014976704090112


Edit: Apparently, it turned into a dark match. Ah well.

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« Reply #9587 on: November 04, 2019, 09:23:29 PM »
Maybe it's a dark match?
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9588 on: November 04, 2019, 09:26:38 PM »
King just called Sin Cara "championship material."
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« Reply #9589 on: November 04, 2019, 09:33:41 PM »
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WWE has announced that 205 Live will be taking place at Full Sail University this Friday night. WWE is teasing that the 205 Live wrestlers and NXT wrestlers will all be under the same roof.

No word on what prompted the venue change but it could be because it’s easier tape in Orlando while the main roster flies out of the country for the European tour. There is a double taping of Raw and SmackDown on Friday so that is the most likely reason. Either way, this will get the 205 Live wrestlers in front of a hot crowd and the show should come across better on TV.

205 Live will air at 10 pm eastern on the WWE Network, immediately after Friday Night SmackDown.

https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/wwe-205-live-will-take-place-at-full-sail-university-on-friday-night/

NXT going to tour and 205 Live is going to be the show that takes place in Full Sail.  :ohhh

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« Reply #9590 on: November 04, 2019, 09:41:04 PM »
The brands are in open war, but Heyman needs his cucking angle to go another week.

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« Reply #9591 on: November 04, 2019, 10:01:40 PM »
Shayna sitting down during a Becky sit-down interview.  :lol
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« Reply #9592 on: November 04, 2019, 10:02:21 PM »
The brands are in open war, but Heyman needs his giant dading angle to go another week.

What I got from that was "Lana is doing Bobby, Drew, and Randy."
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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9593 on: November 04, 2019, 10:04:06 PM »
so Bayley is definitely winning that champions match right

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« Reply #9594 on: November 04, 2019, 10:05:03 PM »
The women are getting a three-way SD/Raw/NXT championship match at Survivor Series. 

so Bayley is definitely winning that champions match right

Bayley feels like a third wheel already.   :P
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« Reply #9595 on: November 04, 2019, 10:12:06 PM »
so Bayley is definitely winning that champions match right

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Re: Pro Wrasslin' Thread: When It Reigns, It Bores
« Reply #9596 on: November 04, 2019, 10:13:08 PM »
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.



It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?
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« Reply #9597 on: November 04, 2019, 10:15:21 PM »
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.

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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?

https://twitter.com/hunktears/status/1191426101634953227

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« Reply #9598 on: November 04, 2019, 10:18:46 PM »
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.

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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?

Wouldn't this have been a Russo thing?  :lol
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« Reply #9599 on: November 04, 2019, 10:19:29 PM »
Reposting here for at-hand community fapsturbation porpoises.

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It’s just perfect. WWF Magazine really seems like it was peak journalism. Did he do this on tv?

https://twitter.com/hunktears/status/1191426101634953227


https://twitter.com/JANELABABY/status/1190120051816509440
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