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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #240 on: June 11, 2013, 01:16:30 PM »
Jack Tretton just confirmed on Gametrailers that extra DRM is totally in the hands of the publishers, Sony won't stop them.

In other words, EA can still throw on whatever DRM they want onto their games.

Also confirmed online multiplayer PS+ fee.

1. That is no different from now. Every pub could hit us with an online pass. Few do.

2. If you DO have used drm in your game you're definitely going up against the message. Which means fewer pubs are likely to do it.

3. Sony didn't build their entire infrastructure around it and required online. So your games will still work 10 years down the line.
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« Reply #241 on: June 11, 2013, 01:17:21 PM »
Haha look at Rahx, kissing Satan's ass. But he's right, halfway.  Remember IRC, Himu?  "And in the end, should someone die?"

They both blew in terms of games, with a couple bright spots each peppering the same old shit again.

Wait are you talking about Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo?

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« Reply #242 on: June 11, 2013, 01:17:27 PM »
knew it
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« Reply #243 on: June 11, 2013, 01:18:09 PM »
Unified DRM vs sign up for EA/ubisoft/activision DRM hahahaha

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« Reply #244 on: June 11, 2013, 01:18:30 PM »
part of me wonders if the backlash against drm means no pub would want to associate themselves with this mess... and even if some of the larger pubs did, I would hope/assume smaller pubs would be against it, but atlus did region lock persona 4...

So basically all this stuff is telling me is to wait a year and see what happens. gg industry.
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« Reply #245 on: June 11, 2013, 01:20:06 PM »
someone needs to teach Tretton how to drop a mic smh.

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« Reply #246 on: June 11, 2013, 01:20:29 PM »
You're right, it's no different from PS3.

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« Reply #247 on: June 11, 2013, 01:21:16 PM »
Ya I'm waiting a year or two.  The thing is PC gaming seems like its been on the rise thought this whole gen.  My biggest take away has been that this gen is still pretty great and PC gaming is more than adequate for my needs. 
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« Reply #248 on: June 11, 2013, 01:22:00 PM »
part of me wonders if the backlash against drm means no pub would want to associate themselves with this mess... and even if some of the larger pubs did, I would hope/assume smaller pubs would be against it, but atlus did region lock persona 4...

So basically all this stuff is telling me is to wait a year and see what happens. gg industry.

I think that if you do use the drm, you're definitely going up against the general message and few pubs will do it. Just like how only the big pubs require online passes. But it definitely seems a good idea to wait. However, I'm pre-ordering a ps4 out of principle for not being dicks.
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« Reply #249 on: June 11, 2013, 01:22:00 PM »
All this is just words, these suits don't even know what's going on either. That's why you all are going to beta test for me while I'm still playing my 360 and PS3 games for the next year.
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« Reply #250 on: June 11, 2013, 01:22:48 PM »
You're right, it's no different from PS3.

oh, but it is

EA/Ubi/Activision etc. aren't gonna have DRM making money for them on one console and not the other, they'll put their own shit on PS4 - whether that's online passes or one-use key codes, it'll be there
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« Reply #251 on: June 11, 2013, 01:23:54 PM »
You're right, it's no different from PS3.

oh, but it is

EA/Ubi/Activision etc. aren't gonna have DRM making money for them on one console and not the other, they'll put their own shit on PS4 - whether that's online passes or one-use key codes, it'll be there

So no difference then because we currently have online passes right now?

The obvious answer is "don't buy ea/acti/ubi"
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« Reply #252 on: June 11, 2013, 01:24:16 PM »
You're right, it's no different from PS3.

oh, but it is

EA/Ubi/Activision etc. aren't gonna have DRM making money for them on one console and not the other, they'll put their own shit on PS4 - whether that's online passes or one-use key codes, it'll be there
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« Reply #253 on: June 11, 2013, 01:24:24 PM »
Ya I'm waiting a year or two.  The thing is PC gaming seems like its been on the rise thought this whole gen.  My biggest take away has been that this gen is still pretty great and PC gaming is more than adequate for my needs.


yeah, PC gaming pretty much only gets better, where consoles are a crap shoot.   now you can get superior HD console games and emulate everything up to PS2/Wii

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« Reply #254 on: June 11, 2013, 01:25:07 PM »
I'm definitely upgrading my pc.
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« Reply #255 on: June 11, 2013, 01:26:25 PM »
Ya I'm waiting a year or two.  The thing is PC gaming seems like its been on the rise thought this whole gen.  My biggest take away has been that this gen is still pretty great and PC gaming is more than adequate for my needs.


yeah, PC gaming pretty much only gets better, where consoles are a crap shoot.   now you can get superior HD console games and emulate everything up to PS2/Wii
I might have to do this too. I just need a controller and a non-ugly case.
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« Reply #256 on: June 11, 2013, 01:26:44 PM »
Really the only games I'll be playing on the PS4 are probably 1st party and downloadable titles. The former won't have any kind of DRM and the latter will be no different than the current setup.
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« Reply #257 on: June 11, 2013, 01:28:13 PM »
PC will be my main AAA and indie system next gen. PS4 will be my Japanese game system for the ones that don't hit pc as well as media box. 3ds will be my alternative gaming system.

pc/ps4/3ds seems like a good combo.
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« Reply #258 on: June 11, 2013, 01:28:50 PM »
Sure, you'll punch in your code on the Origin servers - only instead of just MP it locks up the whole game. You'll have to log in to Origin to play. The next guy will have to buy a new key code to unlock the full game, or the disc will probably be a glorified demo.
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« Reply #259 on: June 11, 2013, 01:30:15 PM »
What's Origin?   
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« Reply #260 on: June 11, 2013, 01:32:17 PM »
They just clarified on GT. Third parties can do online passes, etc, but the platform (system) won't restrict anything.

So if EA wants to block used games; they need to bring back the online pass.
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« Reply #261 on: June 11, 2013, 01:33:03 PM »
Thats the same as now, or did anyone think Sony would STOP others from doing it?

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« Reply #262 on: June 11, 2013, 01:34:40 PM »
Ya I'm waiting a year or two.  The thing is PC gaming seems like its been on the rise thought this whole gen.  My biggest take away has been that this gen is still pretty great and PC gaming is more than adequate for my needs.

PC gaming has and will continue to have DRM like this.  Ubisoft tried to do always online back in 2009 with single player games.  PC is obviously the best choice, and the deep discounts mitigate these problems, but understand the context.  There's no safe haven.

I'll end up playing most of my games on PC, but those rare weeaboo games that don't come to PC, that's why I want a console.  I don't expect those to use DRM.  Unless they do, and in that case...shit.  Atlus did region lock that one game.

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« Reply #263 on: June 11, 2013, 01:35:40 PM »
That was just Europe tho. Since Europe is going to shit and nobody cares, theres no big deal.
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« Reply #264 on: June 11, 2013, 01:37:06 PM »
Yeah, if you're so worried about ANY drm - period - you might as well give up gaming. Common sense says they'll use drm on pc too just like ps4. The difference is ps4 ISN'T BUILT AROUND IT like the xbone. So any ":lol" or "knew it" post sounds pretty fucking stupid. Might as well not game on any platform except 3ds and wii u at that point.
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« Reply #265 on: June 11, 2013, 01:39:24 PM »
It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out, especially for EA. I don't see Origin as being a huge deal considering most people who buy Madden/BF4/etc play online, but there are obviously a lot of people who will be left out. The huge PR backlash and Sony's entrance into the discussion might change a lot of publisher's views. By next holiday season.
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« Reply #266 on: June 11, 2013, 01:40:27 PM »
Ya I'm waiting a year or two.  The thing is PC gaming seems like its been on the rise thought this whole gen.  My biggest take away has been that this gen is still pretty great and PC gaming is more than adequate for my needs.

PC gaming has and will continue to have DRM like this.  Ubisoft tried to do always online back in 2009 with single player games.  PC is obviously the best choice, and the deep discounts mitigate these problems, but understand the context.  There's no safe haven.

I'll end up playing most of my games on PC, but those rare weeaboo games that don't come to PC, that's why I want a console.  I don't expect those to use DRM.  Unless they do, and in that case...shit.  Atlus did region lock that one game.

Ya and I stopped buying Ubi pc games when they did.  Like you said its the price that changes everything.  If I am only paying 7 bucks for a game, they fucking do what they want and I'll live with it.  If they want 75 bucks to throat fuck me, I'm going to bit down.   
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« Reply #267 on: June 11, 2013, 01:41:15 PM »
But the difference between 4" and 6" is neglible. Suck it down Arvie.
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« Reply #268 on: June 11, 2013, 01:45:43 PM »
Thats the same as now, or did anyone think Sony would STOP others from doing it?
Tons of people,apparently.
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« Reply #269 on: June 11, 2013, 01:47:22 PM »
You're right, it's no different from PS3.

oh, but it is

EA/Ubi/Activision etc. aren't gonna have DRM making money for them on one console and not the other, they'll put their own shit on PS4 - whether that's online passes or one-use key codes, it'll be there

So no difference then because we currently have online passes right now?

The obvious answer is "don't buy ea/acti/ubi"

Easier said than done for millions of gamers.

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« Reply #270 on: June 11, 2013, 01:52:34 PM »
I'd say it's getting easier and easier though.

Assassin's Creed is a pretty "wait and see what the suckers who bought this version say about it" game. Same for Watch Dogs, since it's an early next gen Ubi title and they almost never get it right the first time. Ubi will release the occasional good game like every 4 years. In recent times that was Rayman Origins and Farcry 3 and FC3: BD.

All Activison has is Call of Duty, that's worth of note for the most part.

EA has screwed the pooch with many big name franchises recently like NBA Live, SimCity, SSX, Dragon Age 2. That leaves titles like Madden (:zzz unless you're into that) and FIFA (:zzz unless you're into that, which I am) and maybe The Sims if you're into that like I am.

EA/Ubi/Acti rarely release must have titles. Their shit is easy to avoid.

Publishers like 2k, Bethesda, Sega, and Square Enix however.
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« Reply #271 on: June 11, 2013, 01:54:53 PM »
the solution with third party DRM is to just wait until it shitbins. For example, if Mirror's Edge 2 has insane DRM I'll wait.

I'd hate to have to do that with the whole console library. Sucks to be in the Xboat.
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« Reply #274 on: June 11, 2013, 01:59:20 PM »
mcd, you know that xbox is dead now right? as is windows phone etc?

You better get used to posting about PS4 cause that's the future

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« Reply #275 on: June 11, 2013, 02:00:38 PM »
the solution with third party DRM is to just wait until it shitbins. For example, if Mirror's Edge 2 has insane DRM I'll wait.

I'd hate to have to do that with the whole console library. Sucks to be in the Xboat.

The real solution is just to pirate the PC version to get around the DRM
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« Reply #276 on: June 11, 2013, 02:01:32 PM »
the solution with third party DRM is to just wait until it shitbins. For example, if Mirror's Edge 2 has insane DRM I'll wait.

I'd hate to have to do that with the whole console library. Sucks to be in the Xboat.

The real solution is just to pirate the PC version to get around the DRM

agreed definitely, if it exists.
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« Reply #277 on: June 11, 2013, 02:01:59 PM »
I live in the present, euro brother.

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« Reply #278 on: June 11, 2013, 02:02:34 PM »
I saw him, in state of shock, white haired and raving, in another thread, blessing his Sony overlords, but he seems to have overcome that.
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« Reply #281 on: June 11, 2013, 02:04:10 PM »
I think that's it- going full-on J-tard now.  360 is going although I'll keep my J360 for Bayonetta and a few other titles. 
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« Reply #282 on: June 11, 2013, 02:04:26 PM »
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-the-last-guardian-now-on-hiatus-sony-says

SONY 1ST PARTY  :dead
ah man I bought a ps2, ps3, and ps4 for this game  :'(

Why?  Ico was boring, and SoC was a technical disaster.  I like my games to be more than conceptual pieces, thanks. 
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« Reply #283 on: June 11, 2013, 02:05:01 PM »
I never played ICO or SOC.

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« Reply #284 on: June 11, 2013, 02:05:10 PM »
I think that's it- going full-on J-tard now.  360 is going although I'll keep my J360 for Bayonetta and a few other titles.

Dibs, what's on the chopping block
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« Reply #285 on: June 11, 2013, 02:06:29 PM »
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-the-last-guardian-now-on-hiatus-sony-says

SONY 1ST PARTY  :dead
ah man I bought a ps2, ps3, and ps4 for this game  :'(

Why?  Ico was boring, and SoC was a technical disaster.  I like my games to be more than conceptual pieces, thanks.
i was making a joke  :'(

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I've never played ico or soc  :sabu
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« Reply #287 on: June 11, 2013, 02:09:02 PM »
well it should probably be put out to pasture. leaving a pet on life support for this long is cruel IMO.
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« Reply #288 on: June 11, 2013, 02:11:08 PM »
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-the-last-guardian-now-on-hiatus-sony-says

SONY 1ST PARTY  :dead
ah man I bought a ps2, ps3, and ps4 for this game  :'(

Why?  Ico was boring, and SoC was a technical disaster.  I like my games to be more than conceptual pieces, thanks.
i was making a joke  :'(

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I've never played ico or soc  :sabu
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:lol  Nor did most people who talk about them. 
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« Reply #289 on: June 11, 2013, 02:33:41 PM »
If the people on Microsoft’s Xbox team thought of their audience as human beings, they would have acknowledged some of the elephants in the room—like the Xbox One’s extraordinarily confusing used-games scheme or the privacy concerns regarding the always-on Kinect camera, which have only become more urgent as the nation realizes how thoroughly we are being surveilled. If they wanted to speak to people, Microsoft’s executives would not have ticked every box on their Buzzword Bingo card twice over. They know this talk of an “entertainment revolution” is bullshit, and we know it’s bullshit. Yet still they make us sit through this inane emperor’s-new-clothes charade, as they talk at length to nobody in particular.
This is how these events are done in the game industry, usually. It’s not like Microsoft is the only console maker that condescends to its players. Sony and Nintendo have done it on a regular basis, too. Sony did it just a few months ago, in fact. But last night, Sony changed the playbook. Its executives went ahead and talked about used games, assuring players that buying, trading, and lending software on the PS4 would be as simple as ever. They showcased a wide variety of games, refusing to pigeonhole their concept of the modern-day player (or the modern-day developer, for that matter). They promised not to make your console “phone home” to a nanny server. And they priced their new machine $100 lower than Microsoft’s.
Yet the substance of Sony’s riposte to Microsoft is almost less important than the fact that they made all these announcements with humor and swagger. It did not feel like Sony was talking past us—this was not a grim parade of humorless suits who were deigning to give us their attention. They made jokes and poked fun. The audience responded. What a difference it makes when you acknowledge the existence of the human beings in the room. Sony’s team spoke to us, and not because a technical glitch forced them into it. I bet Microsoft’s people now wish they had spoken to us when they had the chance.

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« Reply #290 on: June 11, 2013, 02:38:40 PM »
http://www.destructoid.com/did-tretton-confirm-drm-on-ps4-after-all-not-quite--256052.phtml

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Stories are circulating about an interview Jack Tretton did today with GameTrailers, in which he allegedly confirmed DRM would be allowed on the PlayStation 4 after all. Most outlets are running with the story of Tretton confirming DRM is "up to third parties," bringing the PS4 more in line with the Xbox One than we thought. However, what Tretton said really didn't deviate from Sony's existing policies.

Basically ... no need to panic yet.

"The DRM decision is going to have to be answered by the third parties, it's not something we're going to control, or dictate, or mandate, or implement," said Tretton, essentially describing the system already in place for the PlayStation 3.

Right now, on the PS3, publishers can choose to input online passes, or could theoretically toss in multiplayer features that require legitimate copies to work. Publishers can also choose whether or not to region-lock their discs -- most choose not to. Tretton is basically confirming all of that is still possible.

The major difference between PS4 and Xbox One, of course, is that Sony hasn't made it easier for corporations to control the behavior of their customers, because the PS4 doesn't tie your copies to your accounts, or initiate checks to scrub traded game data off your system. Basically, Microsoft designed the Xbox One to make it as easy as flipping a switch to eradicate any possibility of sharing your games, while Sony is maintaining its policy of this current generation.

While some outlets are already claiming Sony's gone back on its word, I'm yet to see that. All I see is Sony keeping things how they were, and making it easier for us to identify which individual publishers are going to be total dicks about this. Sony, apparently, won't be one of them -- first party games are said to not use DRM, full stop.
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« Reply #291 on: June 11, 2013, 02:43:28 PM »
And there it is.

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« Reply #292 on: June 11, 2013, 02:49:27 PM »
http://www.gamefront.com/sony-third-party-drm-refers-to-playing-used-games-online-only/

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The Online Pass program for PlayStation first-party games will not continue on PlayStation 4. Similar to PS3, we will not dictate the online used game strategy (the ability to play used games online) of its publishing partners. As announced last night, PS4 will not have any gating restrictions for used disc-based games. When a gamer buys a PS4 disc they have right to use that copy of the game, so they can trade-in the game at retail, sell it to another person, lend it to a friend, or keep it forever.
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« Reply #293 on: June 11, 2013, 02:49:38 PM »
Yup. There is no diff than now.
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« Reply #294 on: June 11, 2013, 02:49:45 PM »
Places are really reporting it like he lied?   we've been saying this forever now. 

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« Reply #295 on: June 11, 2013, 02:50:37 PM »
Yup. There is no diff than now.

SCEA is also stopping their online passes.
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« Reply #296 on: June 11, 2013, 02:51:36 PM »
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #297 on: June 11, 2013, 02:53:23 PM »
Just put another $100 down on my PS4. Will have it paid in full next month most likely.

Also reserved BF4 and AC4. May get Killzone too, but I don't really want two FPS at launch.
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Philip Cardgage

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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #298 on: June 11, 2013, 02:56:46 PM »
But if you think about it, Sony was smart with this.

The longterm plan for PS4 which would go in to effect soon in its lifespan, is to eliminate discs and become an online store, where they won't have to worry about coping with DRM and such.

In a few years, we'll praise Sony for letting us  "lend" digital games to friends because they'd be the first to do it.

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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #299 on: June 11, 2013, 02:58:14 PM »
Yup. There is no diff than now.

SCEA is also stopping their online passes.
I wonder why...
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