International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster

[benjipwns]

Yes, apparently. He has the backing of a good chunk of the party although not any of the "establishment" really, and more importantly (this is partly why May became PM) there are not a huge number of competitors willing to get in. Labour has essentially the same thing going on. It's a period of no glamour in being PM.

Last thing I saw is that Boris has a good shot if the number of ballots is low, but if it's a long race he'll have to endorse someone else to break a deadlock.

[VomKriege]

I guess it's also the best (only, really) time to ride in and "succeed" at Brexit.

[Nintex]

Let the real Game of Thrones begin


And yes, Boris is the front runner

Azor Ahai
The fuckery that was promised 

[Mollys Fruity Loops]

[BisMarckie]

May was dealt a shitty hand by Cameron‘s stupid power play. I don’t know what her resignation will solve other than further mark the decline of Britain on the international stage.

[Nintex]

This poor lady visibly aged 10 years in 6 months and then had to leave in tears.

Tories don't play

[shosta]

President Donald Trump is sending an additional 1,500 US troops to the Middle East as part of a "mostly protective" effort to deter Iranian threats, he said.
Many of the new forces will be are engineers to support Patriot missile batteries and reconnaissance aircraft that are being deployed, a US official and a source familiar with the plan tells CNN.

[Snoopycat_]

Does Boris Johnson actually have a strong chance of being next PM or are people just kidding? I've seen it come up alot since May's announcment.

He does have a strong chance. Mostly because he looks like an old labrador and is less of a pedo than the other Torys

[shosta]

[benjipwns]

I just realized how this has all gone wrong.

They gave up the Tory Power Stance.

[agrajag]

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1132436938051465217

[VomKriege]

Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy 

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...

[Sman]

Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy 

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...

The French left is in disarray. Voting strategically, I could only see the Greens as a viable, non-offensive option for me. :/

 

[Rufus]

Democracy 

Here you go, mang:

Mods! 👏👏
Add this pls.

[Sman]

?

[Raist]

Voter's participation is slightly up compared to last Euro election in France at noon, so maybe we'll just end up in high rather than low 40%.

Democracy 

Edit : Participation up by 8 points from last election at 17h (approx. 43%). Will we breach back the 50% line.

That's probably the only happy number to come out this evening from Baguette Town so...

The French left is in disarray.

You're, like, 20 years late bruv.

[benjipwns]

The French left is in disarray.

You're, like, 200 years late bruv.

fixed?

[Snoopycat_]

I think Donkey has been larping as a shit minister

[VomKriege]

The French Right got wrecked  they were polling at 12-13% but only got 8. LFI did the same as the PS and they're pissed about it. Greens dis OK.

[Occam]

Good overview: https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/may/26/eu-election-results-2019-across-europe

[benjipwns]

GREENSEFA is a terrible acronym

especially since it's only an acronym for one part just with GREENS in front of it

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[Occam]

Unironically calling a weakling and buffoon like Farage "alpha".
Dotard supporters really are mental bonsai trees, just like their fearless President Bonespur.

[benjipwns]

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1132766376928661507

Lawl, Farage is going to tear the new EU Parliament a new asshole just before the UK crashes out under the the stable leadership of Michael Gove Boris Johsnon..

[Nintex]

Weeeeee

https://twitter.com/BreakingF24/status/1132755679062585344

[Mr Gilhaney]

The far right party here got absolutely rekt. Went from 4 to 1 seat in the eu parliament. On top of that, the cross-party red/green people's movement against the EU, for the first time, has not gotten any seats at all.

I voted for the danish social liberal party, they went from one to two seats, because the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. It's a nice place to be. :boogie:

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

It's actually a direct reference to when Alexander II of Russia was hit in the face with a milkshake and died due to severe brain freeze.

[Nintex]

Sargon did not get elected 

[curly]

https://twitter.com/flashboy/status/1132770637322313729

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1132766376928661507

Lawl, Farage is going to tear the new EU Parliament a new asshole just before the UK crashes out under the the stable leadership of Michael Gove Boris Johsnon..

So individual countries actually do have huge influence on the EU?

[Occam]

It's almost as if infantile fan-fiction and observable reality (which adults use as foundation of their outlook) are at odds.

[Raist]

Sargon did not get elected 

Voters are in general pretty clueless, especially in the UK, ESPECIALLY about EU elections, but they're not THAT distinguished mentally-challenged

[VomKriege]

So the general impression is "bad but less bad than possible" for the Euro election.

In France, while Le Pen party is leading, it actually did a little less in % than last time. And if the UK leaves the EU and their seats are indeed redistributed as planned, Macron's party will field as many MEP as them.

The whole Yellow Vest movement didn't really have any apparent and dramatic effect. The Yellow Alliance which was the only list explicitly catering to it, led by C-list singer and notorious goofball Francis Lalanne, only managed 0,6% of the vote.

The Greens once again do very well in Euros (16% in 2009 IIRC) but in the past it never really transferred well to domestic elections. But with the neverending agony of the Socialists, it's possible that they might have a chance at filling the vacuum at the prominent moderate left party.

It's hard to know what to make of Macron's list results. For a party with only a couple of years of existence under its belt, and within the pretty belligerent national mood of last 6 months... It's not exactly a defeat. His base has not eroded and he's by a wide margin the strongest "respectable" / non far right candidate.

The left really need to sort out a coalition of sorts (Green + Socialists + Hamon + Communists could work, they managed it in the past) because it's a consistent 20-25% bloc (30+% with FI) that get squandered away each time now.

[Momo]

I can understand 'politics is football' Ree methheads but journalists claiming assange should be procecuted for publishing national secrets are fucking A grade galaxy brains

[VomKriege]

Making the headlines here today : four French citizens condemned to death in Irak for being part of ISIS.  Claims by at least one suspect of being beaten and apparently very speedy trials.

I mean... What did people think would happen by refusing to extradite them back to France ?

[VomKriege]

Also 5 Stelle are really getting hustled all ways to sunday by Lega and Salvini who even won votes down south (when the Lega was until a few years ago a movement supporting the secession of Northern Italy from the so called Southern lazy bumfucks ). Deal with the devil...

[Nintex]

Just yesterday I watched a bit on Dutch television where they claimed the policies of the new Italian government had reduced illegal migration by 90%.
The budget proposed by 5-S and Lega at first not accepted by the Eurozone pretty much passed with only a few changes.

If Salvini continues to get these results he'll only get more popular.

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1133132018030661637

With just two days left before the deadline to form a new government, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu put the onus on a last holdout of his potential coalition, his own former defense minister.

In a televised address Monday, Netanyahu decried his predicament as a “semantic, cosmetic” crisis created by Avigdor Lieberman, and the premier threatened a call to disperse parliament and trigger new elections. It would be the first time in Israel’s history that a winning candidate selected by the president to form a government has failed in the task.

Two weeks ago, Netanyahu attempted to lock future coalition members into binding agreements that included a bill granting him retroactive legal immunity as long as he remains in office. The effort backfired, unleashing massive public opposition.

On Saturday night, more than 50,000 people demonstrated in Tel Aviv against his effort to gain immunity and other legislation that would allow the Knesset to override Supreme Court decisions.

Netanyahu said he had been unable to convince Lieberman “to prevent an unnecessary, costly election” in the latest standoff between the two men. Lieberman’s resignation in November following a dispute over Israel’s policies toward Gaza had precipitated the 2019 elections.

Lieberman, leader of the secular nationalist Yisrael Beitenu party, is refusing to budge regarding a law on military service for ultra-Orthodox Jewish young men, who are currently exempt from Israel’s otherwise universal draft.

Jewish religious parties had demanded Netanyahu soften the bill before agreeing to enter his next coalition government.

So basically personal corruption (Netanyahu), and systemic corruption (Protection of Ultra Orthodox Jews from service in the military) causing Israel to not form a government.

[shosta]

Xinhua released commentary this weekend that trade negotiations are running up against "core interests". Per CNBC because my mandarin isn't good enough to read state propaganda yet

“At the negotiating table, the U.S. government has made many arrogant requests, including restricting the development of state-owned enterprises,” the commentary said, according to a CNBC translation. “Obviously, this is beyond the field and scope of trade negotiations, (and) touches upon China’s fundamental economic system.”

China’s giant state-owned enterprises control strategic industries such as energy, telecommunications and defense. Since those companies benefit from favorable policies and subsidies, foreign companies complain of an unfair advantage. The escalating trade dispute between the U.S. and China has focused on allegations of the coerced surrender of proprietary technology and the trampling of intellectual property rights.

Critics say China has been able to benefit economically from joining the World Trade Organization in 2001 without following through on commitments to reduce state control. For its part, Beijing has made some effort to increase the role of the market in its economy and allow foreign companies greater access — but many outside observers say it’s too little, too slowly.

Command economies are INEFFICIENT. America's economy is the product of its SUPERIOR IDEOLOGY. Communists DESTROY THEIR COUNTRIES.
Deng shui bringing the west to its knees

[Raist]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48417228

The Brexit Party was the clear winner in the UK's European elections, while the pro-EU Lib Dems came second.

The Conservatives and Labour suffered heavy losses, with the former getting less than 10% of the vote.

Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage said he was ready to "take on" the main parties in a general election.

Oh Nigel. You sweet summer child. Have you forgotten that you've failed to even be elected to sit in the HoC for, like, 20 years?


Also,



More like Short-Change UK, AMIRITE GUYZ

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[benjipwns]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/27/tech/zuckerberg-contempt-canada/

Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg will not attend a hearing in Ottawa later this week, despite receiving summonses from the Canadian parliament, Facebook confirmed on Monday.

The decision could result in the executives being held in contempt of parliament, the senior Canadian politician who sent the summons told CNN.

Both executives received formal requests from the Canadian Parliament earlier this month tied to a gathering of an international committee examining Silicon Valley's impact on privacy and democracy. Zuckerberg and Sandberg have testified before the United States Congress on the subject.

Facebook said is it sending Kevin Chan, its head of public policy for Facebook Canada, and Neil Potts, its director of public policy, to the meeting instead.

lol they think they're a real country

[Brehvolution]

Canada should ban facebook until they show. Then ban it anyway.

[shosta]

Malaysia will send back some 3,300 tons of non-recyclable plastic waste to countries such as the U.S., U.K., Canada and Australia in a move to avoid becoming a dumping ground for rich nations, Environment Minister Yeo Bee Yin said Tuesday.

Yeo said Malaysia and many developing countries have become new targets after China banned the import of plastic waste last year. She said 60 containers stacked with contaminated waste were smuggled in en route to illegal processing facilities in the country and will be sent back to their countries of origin.

Philippines started a movement. Take your shit back!

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1133599123616223232

(CNN)An African man has been found crammed behind the glove box of a car in a bid to get to Europe -- one of four people spotted in vehicles on the same day by authorities in Morocco and the Spanish enclave of Melilla, in north Africa.

An African migrant squeezed inside a compartment built behind a car dashboard.
An African migrant squeezed inside a compartment built behind a car dashboard.
Two hid in special compartments behind the dashboard and a third was under a rear seat, images taken by Spain's Civil Guard show. Two were treated by medics for asphyxia, disorientation and joint pain.
A fourth person was also found on May 24 under a truck in the Melilla port.

[BIONIC]

Shit should be in the bad vibes thread

[Nintex]

France and Greece voiced their support for Timmermans over Weber. There's a chance we will not act like a German province and also back Timmermans dividing the otherwise strong northern aliance.
We've come at a point where Frans Timmermans could actually become the new leader of the European Union.

 

[benjipwns]

Two hid in special compartments behind the dashboard and a third was under a rear seat

This should satisfy any kinds of questions about what skills and abilities they have to offer their new country.

Immigration Status: Approved.

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[shosta]

I'm waiting for this Liu Xin interview on Fox Business News and right now Trish Reagan is speaking the most basic ass spanglish to Juan Guaido

edit: guaido is going too fast for the fbn translator

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/NPR/status/1133887004591230981

New Elections in Israel.

[shosta]

Trish: "We're going to try our best not to talk over each other due to this satellite delay."
they immediately can't stop talking over each other over the 10 second satellite delay

Trish starts the conversation by incorrectly stating that Liu Xin is a member of the Chinese Communist Party

Liu talking about how she learned english from American teachers. Trish starts smiling wide with nationalist pride

Trish was going on this long thing about forced technology transfers and then ended it with "So, how would you define state capitalism?" Liu absolutely confused by the question Asks for clarification, Trish says "Well, you guys have a very interesting system of economics"

FBN only hires the best 

[shosta]

Nobody destroys anybody. It's not a debate or even a coherent discussion. Just like it always is with these WASP freedom types, they spend half the time having the most inane, basic level discussion defining words and trying to filter new information through their internalized propaganda paradigm because they're totally incapable of modeling the world in any way other than the fairy tales told to them by the ruling class. I almost made the joke last week that this was State Capitalism vs. Corporate Socialism but edited it out (I know, I know, I have commitment issues), but when she actually pulled out the fucking term and asked her point blank to define it, apropos of nothing, that was when I really knew that there were absolutely no standards whatsoever for hosting a show on Fox Business News.

[benjipwns]

I really knew that there were absolutely no standards whatsoever for hosting a show on Fox Business News.

Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they don't exist.

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

saw The Oreo White Case listed as one of the Chinese Stealing IP examples and said "no...it couldn't be"

but yep:

A California engineer has been found guilty of stealing DuPont's recipe for producing white pigment and selling it to a state-owned Chinese company. As Bloomberg News reports, a federal jury in San Francisco this week found consultant Martin Liew guilty of 22 counts of economic espionage, trade-secret theft, witness tampering, and making false statements. Liew, 56, was found guilty of selling the secrets to Pangang Group, a China-based company that is building a new plant to produce titanium dioxide — a white pigment used in a wide range of products, including paper, whitening chemicals, and Oreo filling.

Former DuPont engineer Robert Maegerle was also convicted Wednesday on similar charges, with prosecutors saying he helped obtain the Delaware-based company's secrets. Each man could now face at least 15 years in prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, in what prosecutors said is the first federal jury conviction under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996. The US Justice Department has sought to crack down on China-related espionage cases in recent years, with the Obama administration claiming that Chinese spy agencies are targeting American telecommunication and technology industries.

"As today’s verdict demonstrates, foreign governments threaten our economic and national security by engaging in aggressive and determined efforts to steal US intellectual property," US attorney Melinda Haag said in a statement.

[shosta]

esch and I need to be forced into some kind of support group for people who hate watch things

[curly]

we need to stop doing interviews with the Chinese before they realize how dumb we are

[Nintex]

The Brotherhood of NOD vibes in that Fox News set are off the charts.

Anyhow, time to escalate this war and have Tucker do the next interview with the Chinese.
This diplomatic effort by the Trump Administration Fox News clearly ain't working.