Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 699141 times)

Nintex · « **Reply #6420 on:** May 30, 2019, 05:46:42 PM »

The only way the Tories can get out of this bind is to deliver Brexit.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1134207549249654786

Momo · « **Reply #6421 on:** May 31, 2019, 07:15:41 AM »

Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body - Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.

U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.

A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.

A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

shosta · « **Reply #6422 on:** May 31, 2019, 03:55:31 PM »

China preparing an entity list of its own to retaliate against foreign firms

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6423 on:** May 31, 2019, 05:01:09 PM »

I got a gay fevah and the only cure....is more cock.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6424 on:** May 31, 2019, 05:03:08 PM »

Hates Canada and denies his own homosexuality. Checking all the right boxes for the Bire voting bloc.

Mr Gilhaney · « **Reply #6425 on:** May 31, 2019, 05:41:46 PM »

Quote from: Esch on May 31, 2019, 04:59:19 PM

https://twitter.com/Newsweek/status/1134426820701544449

God I want to live in the Philippines again

Nintex · « **Reply #6426 on:** June 01, 2019, 07:24:11 PM »

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1134897907319132160

Are you ready for Prime Minister Farage.

team filler · « **Reply #6427 on:** June 01, 2019, 10:19:47 PM »

https://twitter.com/mimosa_daddy/status/1134500566242091010

curly · « **Reply #6428 on:** June 02, 2019, 01:09:17 AM »

https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1134356510253785089

BIONIC · « **Reply #6429 on:** June 02, 2019, 04:31:12 AM »

Quote from: curly on June 02, 2019, 01:09:17 AM

https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/1134356510253785089

https://twitter.com/bananapeppersx3/status/1134495449056985088

Tripon · « **Reply #6430 on:** June 02, 2019, 02:42:42 PM »

Anime is literally hot.

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Japan's heatwave in July 2018 could not have happened without climate change. The July 2018 heatwave, which killed 1,032 people, saw temperatures reach 41.1C (106F), the highest temperature ever recorded in the country. Penned by the Meteorological Society of Japan, the study is the first to establish that some aspects of the international heatwave could not have occurred in the absence of global warming.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/ed83b592-af4c-3563-a18c-8252094a44f3/japan%E2%80%99s-deadly-heatwave-would.html

Nintex · « **Reply #6431 on:** June 02, 2019, 03:00:37 PM »

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances.

Tripon · « **Reply #6432 on:** June 02, 2019, 03:20:10 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on June 02, 2019, 03:00:37 PM

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances.

I don't get how a domestic issue (NHS, healthcare) is going to be part of trade discussions. The U.S. going to argue that American health companies need to be able to compete in England somehow?

VomKriege · « **Reply #6433 on:** June 02, 2019, 03:57:22 PM »

Any pretext to undermine it, even if it has no relevance to it, seems to be a major boner for Tories.

Raist · « **Reply #6434 on:** June 02, 2019, 04:05:42 PM »

Can't wait for the US / healthcare version of this

Nintex · « **Reply #6435 on:** June 02, 2019, 04:57:03 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on June 02, 2019, 03:20:10 PM

Quote from: Nintex on June 02, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1135118137987223554

What do the tories think selling the NHS to Trump and frens would mean for their election chances.

I don't get how a domestic issue (NHS, healthcare) is going to be part of trade discussions. The U.S. going to argue that American health companies need to be able to compete in England somehow?

Everything is going to be on the table. By the end of the "negotiations" the UK will have to buy a massive ammount of US military equipment, the royal family has to apologize to Trump, the Trump organization owns the Falklands and UK branches of US corporations pay 0 taxes. Oh and prescription drugs no longer provided by the EU will have to be bought from the US.

shosta · « **Reply #6436 on:** June 02, 2019, 05:23:16 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on June 02, 2019, 04:57:03 PM

UK branches of US corporations pay 0 taxes

Ah, so the Irish arrangement

curly · « **Reply #6437 on:** June 03, 2019, 03:33:33 AM »

Quote from: Momo on May 31, 2019, 07:15:41 AM

Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body - Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.

U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.

A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.

A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korean-official-kim-yong-chol-reappears-after-purge-report-n1013011

Momo · « **Reply #6438 on:** June 03, 2019, 08:27:19 AM »

Quote from: curly on June 03, 2019, 03:33:33 AM

Quote from: Momo on May 31, 2019, 07:15:41 AM
Journalism.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-usa-purge/north-korea-executes-envoys-in-a-purge-after-failed-summit-south-korean-newspaper-idUSKCN1T02PD

Headline - North Korea executes envoy in a purge after failed U.S. summit: media

Body - Reuters was unable to independently confirm the report. Previously, some North Korean officials have reportedly been executed or purged only to reappear with a new title.

U.S. State Department officials said they had no information to confirm the report.

A spokeswoman at South Korea’s Unification Ministry declined to comment. An official at the presidential Blue House in Seoul said it was inappropriate to comment on an issue that should first be verified.

A diplomatic source told Reuters there were signs Kim Hyok Chol and other officials were punished for the breakdown of the summit, such as by being sent to a labor camp for reeducation, but there was no evidence they were executed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korean-official-kim-yong-chol-reappears-after-purge-report-n1013011

lmao, I actually kinda suspected this one to at least be eventually true

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6439 on:** June 03, 2019, 09:33:57 AM »

It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

Stro · « **Reply #6440 on:** June 03, 2019, 03:55:34 PM »

Jesus the queen talking about her first state visit to the US being in 1944 and meeting Eisenhower....then raising a toast to Donald J. Trump

RETIRE BITCH

curly · « **Reply #6441 on:** June 04, 2019, 02:59:19 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2019, 09:33:57 AM

It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1135763951478853633

Raist · « **Reply #6442 on:** June 04, 2019, 03:21:14 AM »

Quote from: Stro on June 03, 2019, 03:55:34 PM

Jesus the queen talking about her first state visit to the US being in 1944 and meeting Eisenhower....then raising a toast to Donald J. Trump

RETIRE BITCH

VomKriege · « **Reply #6443 on:** June 04, 2019, 11:23:24 AM »

The French Prime Minister is saying that the destruction of a variety of unsold but otherwise unused & non perishable products -notably clothes and sanitary towels- will be forbidden (through regulations probably). Retailers would have to donate or recycle those.

Also French arms exports still soaring, biggest clients being Gulf states / Near East / Middle East (and a deal with Belgium for armoured vehicles). But don't you worry, there's been plenty of verbal agreements that those are not used in places like Yemen or repression.

Momo · « **Reply #6444 on:** June 04, 2019, 11:44:52 AM »

Quote from: curly on June 04, 2019, 02:59:19 AM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on June 03, 2019, 09:33:57 AM
It's best to be skeptical of nearly every report that comes out of North Korea. Almost always it starts as a sketchy report in some South Korea newspaper with minimal, or none, backing, that gets picked up and then broadcast as 100% truth by western outlets.

On the other hand, it could be a body double that they trotted out, like Trump does with Melania.

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1135763951478853633

this stuff genuinely upsets me because it sets the tone for conversations at an already flawed baseline. It upsets me mostly when an entity like BBC does it as they have no financial pressure to be first yet they're constantly out there with bullshit.

VomKriege · « **Reply #6445 on:** June 04, 2019, 12:26:14 PM »

It's not entirely true that the BBC is free from commercial pressure though, is it ? It's a bit of a soft target for politicians to push the same kind of narrative "need more efficiency" than on NHS or every public service they'd like to put in the chopping block. And like most public broadcasting I'm aware of in Europe, the main channels- are expected to "compete" with private networks (offering similar programming, etc...). But yeah, it's a shame and incredibly short sighted to squander what is arguably one of the most potent remaining British soft power card.

team filler · « **Reply #6446 on:** June 04, 2019, 05:03:54 PM »

Nintex · « **Reply #6447 on:** June 04, 2019, 06:15:45 PM »

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1135918881107795974

The US makes a trade deal with the UK colorized

shosta · « **Reply #6448 on:** June 04, 2019, 06:18:34 PM »

they're going to really need the NHS once they're the sick man of europe again

Nintex · « **Reply #6449 on:** June 04, 2019, 06:20:46 PM »

It appears Pierce called Kushner.

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1136016905708482560

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Because Donald spoiled the plan

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6450 on:** June 04, 2019, 06:59:14 PM »

It's obvious he had no idea what it even was.

Stro · « **Reply #6451 on:** June 04, 2019, 07:38:57 PM »

Have two bigger assholes ever been pictured together outside of porn

Tripon · « **Reply #6452 on:** June 04, 2019, 10:22:54 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on June 04, 2019, 06:15:45 PM

https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1135918881107795974

The US makes a trade deal with the UK colorized

This is sort of an amazing turn since Brexit was partially promised on protecting the NHS.

shosta · « **Reply #6453 on:** June 06, 2019, 01:22:20 AM »

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The Chinese president arrived on Wednesday and later gave a press conference where he said he had a "deep personal friendship" with his Russian counterpart.

"In the past six years, we have met nearly 30 times. Russia is the country that I have visited the most times, and President Putin is my best friend and colleague," Mr Xi said.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6454 on:** June 06, 2019, 01:24:18 AM »

https://twitter.com/BillNeelyNBC/status/1135864159046967296

VomKriege · « **Reply #6455 on:** June 06, 2019, 05:34:05 AM »

The Fiat-Chrysler proposal to merge with Renault has been suspended probably indefinitely. French state representatives on the board asked for more delays, as the French Ministry of Economy wanted to have more talks with Nissan to pacify them (as the alliance would suddenly shift balance and make them a minority partner) and was looking for more guarantees to safeguard their prerogatives. The union representative in the board voted against the project while everyone else was in favour. This was too much for Fiat-Chrysler apparently.

After the drama over the naval yards in St Nazaire, it's another Franco-Italian venture project going down the drain because of the French state involvement being an hurdle. There's also the matter of the high speed railway connection between Lyon and Torino being blocked by Italian cabinet politics (Salvini is for, 5 Stelle against) or the spat between Vivendi and Mediaset. Apparently there's some disgruntlement in Italia over industrial and capital penetration only going one way with regards to France on top of political grudges of the same order (by the admission of some French politicians or diplomats, France has been negligent in condescending for a long time, only remembering Italy is a thing when they had issues with Germany).

benjipwns · « **Reply #6456 on:** June 06, 2019, 08:02:25 AM »

the Danes just had an election, their eurosceptic anti-immigrant, etc. party got smashed hard from 21% and 37 seats to 9% and 16 seats... I think the center-right liberals gained the advantage but don't quote me on that, it'll be a broad coalition no matter what like usual

Sunday is the first presidential election in Kazakhstan without Nursultan Nazarbayev

Guatemala and Greece are up next, so many elections being moved into this year after it was looking so barren at the start

clearly trying to get things done before Beast Mode Trump next year /nintex

jorma · « **Reply #6457 on:** June 06, 2019, 08:23:13 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 06, 2019, 08:02:25 AM

the Danes just had an election, their eurosceptic anti-immigrant, etc. party got smashed hard from 21% and 37 seats to 9% and 16 seats... I think the center-right liberals gained the advantage but don't quote me on that, it'll be a broad coalition no matter what like usual

No, the ruling center right liberals gained quite a bit, but they still lost the election because their right wing allies cratered, and the party leader turned in his resignation to the queen.
The social democrats (center left) will most likely form the next government. But as i understand it it's going to be tough, because the soc dems have promised to keep immigration at a minimum, but that's not gonna sit well with the supporting leftie parties needed to form a majority in the parliament.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6458 on:** June 06, 2019, 08:29:50 AM »

I was going off the seat numbers, it didn't really seem like any set of "natural coalition" had an obvious path, maybe something with social dems in top positions but lots of liberals and their center-right allies across the cabinet. I'm not as familiar with Danish politics to know if that's a common thing as it can be in some neighbors.

jorma · « **Reply #6459 on:** June 06, 2019, 08:41:47 AM »

Quote from: benjipwns on June 06, 2019, 08:29:50 AM

I was going off the seat numbers, it didn't really seem like any set of "natural coalition" had an obvious path, maybe something with social dems in top positions but lots of liberals and their center-right allies across the cabinet. I'm not as familiar with Danish politics to know if that's a common thing as it can be in some neighbors.

The prospective PM has already ruled out a coalition with Venstre (which confusingly enough is the center right party). That doesn't mean it's not gonna happen obviously, but she's going to try to form a government with the left block first as i understand it. I don't really follow danish politics that closely either so i don't know how likely it is that she'll succeed.

benjipwns · « **Reply #6460 on:** June 06, 2019, 08:44:56 AM »

oh, I had overlooked the Social Liberals completely by accident, that puts them over a majority after all

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6461 on:** June 06, 2019, 09:35:21 AM »

Quote from: shosta on June 06, 2019, 01:22:20 AM

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The Chinese president arrived on Wednesday and later gave a press conference where he said he had a "deep personal friendship" with his Russian counterpart.

"In the past six years, we have met nearly 30 times. Russia is the country that I have visited the most times, and President Putin is my best friend and colleague," Mr Xi said.

Friendship with Trump ended
Now Putin is my best friend

Rufus · « **Reply #6462 on:** June 06, 2019, 12:09:42 PM »

Vote green. Got it. 👍

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #6463 on:** June 06, 2019, 12:15:07 PM »

Quote from: Tripon on June 02, 2019, 02:42:42 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

oppai party

Occam · « **Reply #6464 on:** June 07, 2019, 10:28:38 AM »

https://mobile.twitter.com/itvnews/status/1136610824762601473

(54% pro Brexit voters.)

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6465 on:** June 07, 2019, 10:36:41 AM »

Brexit is just a convenient excuse for Ford to close down a plant.

The European Union and its free movement is just a way for capitalists to undermine collective bargaining agreements and other forms of organized labor.
Brexit can also be interpreted as the working class trying to escape from this race to the bottom.

It's probably easier though to follow the neolib narrative that people voted Brexit because of racism.

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playing devil's advocate,or am I?

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Occam · « **Reply #6466 on:** June 07, 2019, 10:56:07 AM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on June 07, 2019, 10:36:41 AM

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playing devil's advocate,or am I?
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Or you forgot to take your brain medication today.

BisMarckie · « **Reply #6467 on:** June 07, 2019, 11:04:42 AM »

Forum poster Occam unaware of stances and policies that Marxist-Leninist parties have argued for.

Kara · « **Reply #6468 on:** June 07, 2019, 12:04:32 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on June 07, 2019, 11:04:42 AM

Forum poster Occam unaware of stances and policies that Marxist-Leninist parties have argued for.

Kara · « **Reply #6469 on:** June 07, 2019, 12:19:18 PM »

is this the dialectic

Nintex · « **Reply #6470 on:** June 07, 2019, 12:58:25 PM »

Quite shitty for the workers and all.
BUT closing a car plant is VERY GOOD to combat climate change because the plant won't pollute anymore and the workers won't be able to consume as much as before on government welfare.

Kara · « **Reply #6471 on:** June 07, 2019, 01:18:45 PM »

This is more of a post for the LF thread but whatever, we've already gone down the rabbit hole of Perfidious Albion's cursed political landscape.

New Labour Twitter (which inexplicably persists in 2019 and I inexplicably find myself among in 2019) was hot and bothered the other day by a December 2018 tweet from Aaron Bastani (one of the founders of Novara) that said, (paraphrasing) "When I saw all the Lehman Brothers traders carrying out their stuff in 2008 I laughed at the scene and it was then that I realized whose side I was on."

Now you could attack this tweet on "common decency" grounds, to be certain. What about the cleaning, maintenance, and support staffs when the comically evil investment bank collapsed, for example? What about all the tertiary employment in the illegal drugs and sex trafficking industries that was impacted by the sudden unemployment of desk traders? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We live in a society, bottom text.

*Stephen A.* BUT the tweet that kicked this display off was instead someone posting a screen shot of the tweet and going, (paraphrasing) "I eschew Corbynistas because even though they claim to speak 'for the many' they just really, really hate people." AND a councilor with Change UK - the Independently Wealthy Group replied saying, (paraphrasing) "[isn't the point of Labour] to keep people employed?" Not when it's at the comically evil investment bank, Subject-Councilor!

No one likes these fucking dipshits and this is why.

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When I mentioned this to a pom they didn't really know about Lehman Brothers so I suspect there may be some ignorance to blame for this scene but, like, it's 2019. Use a search engine, lickspittles.

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Occam · « **Reply #6472 on:** June 07, 2019, 02:20:09 PM »

Quote from: BisMarckie on June 07, 2019, 11:04:42 AM

Forum poster Occam unaware of stances and policies that Marxist-Leninist parties have argued for.

They are in dire need of brain medication.

Nintex · « **Reply #6473 on:** June 07, 2019, 05:17:40 PM »

Welp, guess boris wins this one lol

VomKriege · « **Reply #6474 on:** June 07, 2019, 05:30:15 PM »

Well at least he didn't eat some fat sandwich in public.

curly · « **Reply #6475 on:** June 07, 2019, 06:51:12 PM »

Quote from: Occam on June 07, 2019, 10:28:38 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/itvnews/status/1136610824762601473

(54% pro Brexit voters.)

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He denied that Brexit played any part in the decision: “Hard Brexit would not be good for our business but as far as this decision is concerned it has nothing to do with Brexit.

"The simple question is, if Brexit had never happened, would this decision be different, and the answer is no.”

Shouldn't accept Ford's word at face value but I don't really get how the area voting for Brexit at basically the same rate as the national average shows the plant workers had it coming or whatever

Tripon · « **Reply #6476 on:** June 07, 2019, 08:15:29 PM »

Quote from: curly on June 07, 2019, 06:51:12 PM

Quote from: Occam on June 07, 2019, 10:28:38 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/itvnews/status/1136610824762601473

(54% pro Brexit voters.)

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He denied that Brexit played any part in the decision: “Hard Brexit would not be good for our business but as far as this decision is concerned it has nothing to do with Brexit.

"The simple question is, if Brexit had never happened, would this decision be different, and the answer is no.”

Shouldn't accept Ford's word at face value but I don't really get how the area voting for Brexit at basically the same rate as the national average shows the plant workers had it coming or whatever

He's right in a sense, the EU just did a trade deal with Japan that means no import duties/tax for cars from Japan. England and Japan are the two major countries that still drive on the right side, so it's going to make more sense to just import cars from Japan now.

The real issue is that the UK is such a small market that it makes sense to do it. A lot of industries are just going to think the UK is too small a market to give a shit about it.

Kara · « **Reply #6477 on:** June 07, 2019, 11:02:08 PM »

They also axed Ford Australia awhile back (RIP Falcon).

Raist · « **Reply #6478 on:** June 08, 2019, 03:32:39 AM »

At the end of the day whether or not the decision derived from Brexit either in part or in full doesn't really matter - it will just add to the shitshow that this distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed political decision based on a dumb referendum will turn into.

shosta · « **Reply #6479 on:** June 08, 2019, 03:43:35 AM »

personally I want a hard brexit to ruin all of the UK. I want it to be completely destroyed. houses in disrepair, electricity rationing, collapse of every industry. people dragging their dead across the street, wailing in a new degenerated form of english. scottish gangs terrorizing unlucky travellers in the night. mad max. polio returns. all because I didn't like a piers morgan clip

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Author Topic: International Politics Thread - Disease and Disaster (Read 699141 times)