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« Reply #6541 on: June 15, 2019, 11:25:30 PM »
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« Reply #6542 on: June 16, 2019, 06:19:43 AM »
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« Reply #6543 on: June 16, 2019, 08:14:46 AM »
my god

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/16/dirty-secrets-of-boris-johnsons-seduction-of-conservative-mps

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Colleagues enjoy conjecturing what could possibly now derail a man who has miraculously survived so much previous scandal. “Another love child falling out of the cupboard wouldn’t do it,” suggests one Tory MP of many years standing. “With Boris, all that is already in the price.”

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I’ve heard all sorts of explanations from Tories about why they are swallowing their misgivings and voting for the former foreign secretary, including one MP who revealed that his wife and children are threatening to punish him by changing the locks to the family home.

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Dominic Raab has tried too hard to be the macho man for the Brexit ultras. He unnerved even some of them by saying that he might attempt to shutter parliament in order to ram through a no-deal Brexit. This is supposed to be a contest for the prime ministership of a mature democracy, not the chairmanship of the junta in a banana republic. Michael Gove is still struggling to recover his balance and answer the charges of hypocrisy after being compelled to admit that he has snorted mind-bending narcotics other than Brexit.
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And if it all goes horribly wrong? At least, I often hear Tories muse, a Johnson premiership “will cheer everyone up”. When your party looks like it is going to hell in a handcart, they reckon you might as well hurtle towards the inferno with a smile on your face.

 :awesome

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1140009065688571904
Yup, it'll be Boris
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« Reply #6545 on: June 16, 2019, 01:58:08 PM »
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« Reply #6547 on: June 16, 2019, 03:09:31 PM »
every older person should die  8)
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« Reply #6549 on: June 17, 2019, 02:36:53 PM »
I guess that's one problem for the Egyptian rulers that took care of itself. :doge
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« Reply #6550 on: June 17, 2019, 02:42:21 PM »
I'm sure it had nothing to do with 8(?) years of living under one of the world's worst prison systems and wondering if you're going to be executed every day
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« Reply #6551 on: June 17, 2019, 02:50:17 PM »
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1140657860235464704
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"Dowd, remember who I'm talking to," Trump says in the book, reportedly referring to el-Sisi. "The guy's a f---ing killer. This guy's a f---ng killer! I'm getting it done."

Trump added el-Sisi will "make you sweat on the phone," before launching into an impression of el-Sissi: "Donald, I'm worried about this investigation. Are you going to be around? Suppose I need a favor, Donald?"

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« Reply #6552 on: June 17, 2019, 04:00:05 PM »
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« Reply #6553 on: June 17, 2019, 04:49:25 PM »
Is Jerusalem Post a real source am I being fake newsd
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Diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters in New York revealed to Maariv that they are assessing the United States' plans to carry out a tactical assault on Iran in response to the tanker attack in the Persian Gulf on Thursday.
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The sources added that President Trump himself was not enthusiastic about a military move against Iran, but lost his patience on the matter and would grant Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is pushing for action, what he wants.
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« Reply #6554 on: June 17, 2019, 05:02:58 PM »
Is Jerusalem Post a real source am I being fake newsd
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Diplomatic sources at the UN headquarters in New York revealed to Maariv that they are assessing the United States' plans to carry out a tactical assault on Iran in response to the tanker attack in the Persian Gulf on Thursday.
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The sources added that President Trump himself was not enthusiastic about a military move against Iran, but lost his patience on the matter and would grant Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is pushing for action, what he wants.

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The Palestinian enclave of Gaza is a major global hotspot with potential for extreme violence. Nearly isolated from the world since Hamas took control of it in 2007, it has been a poverty -ridden corner of the world. It is a regular launching pad for rocket attacks against southern Israel and a training ground for Islamist terrorists. Israel has carried out three major operations in the territory since relinquishing it unilaterally in 2005.

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Antisemitism is hostility towards or prejudice against the Jewish people. Since biblical times, Jews experienced periods in which they were persecuted for refusing to adopt the religion and culture of the ruling societies in which they lived. The rise of Christianity and perception of Jews as rejectors of Jesus led to a rise in antisemitism.

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The region known as the Middle East has been conquered and reconquered by every super power in the West. This has created a region rich in a culture of resistance and thousands of ethnic groups looking for their piece of land. This has created a complicated region and Jpost's Middle East News simplifies it.

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Health and Science are two of the most developed sectors in Israel and the country is a powerhouse of medical innovation with many game-changing medical advances being made on a regular basis. 'Health and Science' provides you with the latest updates on Israel's health trends, health tips, news and fitness.as well as the cutting edge scientific discoveries and advancements.

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They are really in love with the idea of Israel.  :doge

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6555 on: June 17, 2019, 05:04:10 PM »
I too am in love at the idea of my own existence.
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« Reply #6556 on: June 17, 2019, 05:16:31 PM »
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« Reply #6557 on: June 17, 2019, 05:19:50 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

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« Reply #6558 on: June 17, 2019, 05:23:54 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

I see they are fans of Chapelle. "Just sprinkle some crack on him."
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6559 on: June 17, 2019, 05:31:54 PM »
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« Reply #6560 on: June 17, 2019, 05:39:25 PM »
Trump starting WW3 because he lost his patience with John Bolton and Mike Pompeo would be the most on brand thing that has ever happened on this planet.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6561 on: June 17, 2019, 05:43:22 PM »
It's no al-Ittihad, but what is.

I didn‘t know you were a Saudi football aficionado. :obama
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« Reply #6562 on: June 17, 2019, 08:22:56 PM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/raptors-rally-shooting-1.5178886

almost went to this with a friend - he came back to work rather freaked out
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6563 on: June 18, 2019, 01:31:10 PM »
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Dominic Raab has been knocked out of the Tory leadership race in the latest ballot of MPs, leaving five candidates in the battle to be the next PM.

Boris Johnson once again came top of the second ballot, with 126 votes - 12 more than in the first round.

Jeremy Hunt, Michael Gove, Sajid Javid and Rory Stewart also got enough votes to make it into the next round.

Mr Raab did not get through, after getting 30 votes, three less than the minimum needed.


I love how something as monumental as leaving the EU was a done deal after one dumb referendum no one really gave a shit about, but finding May's replacement is going to take nearly two months and like, 4 votes :lol

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« Reply #6564 on: June 18, 2019, 03:16:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1141029016956231680

Boris is doing better than expected :mynicca


All these candidates are fucking terrible



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Gove: "Jeremy Corbyn stands up for the Iranian regime not the average worker"

Jesus christ dude.  :lol
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« Reply #6566 on: June 19, 2019, 03:39:21 AM »
Chinese slacktivists really exposing themselves with the lack of protests, how bad can it be really if there's none ? (I didn't want to make a huge care post in the thread dedicated to shit impulses, but I thought the reasoning was a bit tautological to be honest.)



Soviet sluggish schizophrenia has been replaced with pre-crime, apparently.
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« Reply #6567 on: June 19, 2019, 11:53:59 AM »
So...why was she shaking? Parkinsons? Low blood sugar? Putin's dog was out of frame? Nervous? Cold?

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« Reply #6568 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:02 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

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« Reply #6569 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:32 PM »
So...why was she shaking? Parkinsons? Low blood sugar? Putin's dog was out of frame? Nervous? Cold?

Reports came out that Greece was getting a 0.01% debt haircut.

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« Reply #6570 on: June 19, 2019, 12:03:03 PM »
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« Reply #6571 on: June 19, 2019, 12:05:08 PM »
Have you seen the numbers of the Deutsche Bank lately to only name one? Not great, we need every cent especially in these trying times of low rates.

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« Reply #6572 on: June 19, 2019, 12:09:10 PM »
Plus, the Nazis in the BRD look a lot better with Golden Dawn on the scene. :win

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« Reply #6573 on: June 19, 2019, 12:18:36 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

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« Reply #6574 on: June 19, 2019, 12:23:44 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

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« Reply #6575 on: June 19, 2019, 12:26:02 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge

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« Reply #6576 on: June 19, 2019, 12:29:55 PM »
Clearly they weren't Turkish because the police figured that out in less than 10 years and multiple murders!

Don‘t fotget that even though that it was one of, if not the biggest criminal trial in the last 25 years, that the evidence against Zschäpe was extremely thin and the revision, if the case wasn‘t so politically charged, would have had extremely good chances to overturn the verdict.

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« Reply #6577 on: June 19, 2019, 12:44:01 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.
It's paywalled, but his opener "it is now obvious that right-wing extremists not only rampage in social networks" makes me not want to read the rest anyway, so...  :doge

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« Reply #6578 on: June 19, 2019, 01:06:41 PM »
A local politician was shot and killed recently. Main suspect is a neo-nazi. :shaq2

Have you heard the comments from Peter Tauber though?
Limit freedom of speech and freedom of assembly for people and parties who are against the constitution.

Like, breh, they have been able to do that since 1949. You only need the supreme court to state that a party is unconstitutional. How did that go during the NPD trial? :doge


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« Reply #6579 on: June 19, 2019, 01:16:56 PM »
Learn from the master Maduro.

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« Reply #6581 on: June 19, 2019, 04:20:52 PM »
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« Reply #6582 on: June 19, 2019, 04:26:20 PM »
Not hydrated enough, apparently. :idont

That's the go-to excuse for politicians who clearly should just retire :lol (see: Clinton's similar incident).

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« Reply #6584 on: June 19, 2019, 08:16:24 PM »
Canada resettled more refugees than any other country in 2018

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48696974

The country accepted just over 28,000 refugees last year, with the United States coming in second with 22,900.

Some 92,400 refugees were resettled globally in 2018, fewer than 7% of those awaiting resettlement worldwide.
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« Reply #6585 on: June 20, 2019, 04:02:26 AM »
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/iran-revolutionary-guard-shoots-spy-drone-report-190620035802427.html

What do you guys make of this? specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.

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« Reply #6586 on: June 20, 2019, 04:12:00 AM »
I find it real convenient that Iran would poke the bear right after the US went back to squeezing them. Iran stands to lose a lot more, but then I don't know how fucked/desperate they are right now, economically.

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« Reply #6587 on: June 20, 2019, 04:17:49 AM »
I find it real convenient that Iran would poke the bear right after the US went back to squeezing them. Iran stands to lose a lot more, but then I don't know how fucked/desperate they are right now, economically.
5% contraction in gdp last year, 6% this year, 50% inflation, 20% unemployment
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« Reply #6588 on: June 20, 2019, 04:21:50 AM »
I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?

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« Reply #6589 on: June 20, 2019, 04:28:35 AM »
A large segment of the US political class has wanted war with Iran for decades and has been pretty up front about it.

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« Reply #6590 on: June 20, 2019, 04:29:00 AM »
specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.
That's pretty much what everyone says about everything that's ever been shot down. Probably dates back to the French-Prussian War at latest when the French sent up all kinds of useless balloons that tended to follow the wind instead of going where they wanted them to. IIRC, at one point during the Siege of Paris the French balloons were of more use to the Prussians because they'd drift over their lines and then the Prussians would interrogate the pilots, about the condition of the city, who obviously wouldn't get back to Paris until later. The Union and Confederate armies quickly stopped messing around with balloons in the American Civil War for much of the same reasons. Austria and France kept dabbling with them because Franz Joseph and Napoleon III were fanboys of them.

The Austrians were arguably the very first to try bombing from balloons, but they ran into a similar problem, at one point they loaded up like a hundred balloons with bombs to drop, and only one managed to do it, the wind blew all the rest back over the Austrians.

I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
It's not real escalation. Border blasting of shit flying around has been a thing during all modern war. Everyone agrees to best maximize the propaganda value of it and then quietly settle things after. Since it's a drone a lot of the normal stuff is cut down, no bodies to recover, many drones are designed to crash on purpose at some point anyway, somebody gets to test their ability to shoot them down, etc.

The U.S. has much better ways of declaring a provocation requiring combat.

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« Reply #6591 on: June 20, 2019, 04:31:34 AM »
Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
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« Reply #6592 on: June 20, 2019, 05:02:29 AM »
A large segment of the US political class has wanted war with Iran for decades and has been pretty up front about it.
I'll be honest, the strategy gamer in me would like to close that gap in our imperial holdings so as to reduce the need to maneuver our units around it.

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« Reply #6593 on: June 20, 2019, 05:05:36 AM »
Iran needs to stop plundering the trade routes of the city states that we're suzerain of
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« Reply #6594 on: June 20, 2019, 05:13:34 AM »
STOP DEMANDING MY MUSIC IRAN, I WILL NOT HELP YOU OVERTAKE ME IN CULTURE

WHERE IS BOLTON

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« Reply #6595 on: June 20, 2019, 05:25:20 AM »
Bolton recommends you bomb their theater square.
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« Reply #6596 on: June 20, 2019, 05:30:52 AM »
I just want them to stop trying to do espionage in my capital, I can't level up the spy there anymore

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« Reply #6597 on: June 20, 2019, 07:40:20 AM »
specifically about the claim that it was/wasnt over Iran airspace by the opposing sides.
That's pretty much what everyone says about everything that's ever been shot down. Probably dates back to the French-Prussian War at latest when the French sent up all kinds of useless balloons that tended to follow the wind instead of going where they wanted them to. IIRC, at one point during the Siege of Paris the French balloons were of more use to the Prussians because they'd drift over their lines and then the Prussians would interrogate the pilots, about the condition of the city, who obviously wouldn't get back to Paris until later. The Union and Confederate armies quickly stopped messing around with balloons in the American Civil War for much of the same reasons. Austria and France kept dabbling with them because Franz Joseph and Napoleon III were fanboys of them.

The Austrians were arguably the very first to try bombing from balloons, but they ran into a similar problem, at one point they loaded up like a hundred balloons with bombs to drop, and only one managed to do it, the wind blew all the rest back over the Austrians.

I read a whole lot of other sources and the US claims the drone was 17 miles from the Iranian border, the drone in question has a speed of about 320mph. I can see a scenario where the drone crossed over into Iranian space, Iran fired a missile, the drone punched it and got ended outside of Iranian airspace, making both claims technically true (Iran shot while they were in their airspace and the US got hit outside of it).

This is just such a weird piece of escalation to me, why fuck around and risk shit happening that would lead to US soldiers again in the ME against a country backed by Russia. What's the gain here? Was this a failed intimidation tactic or the start of a series of events to lure Iran into a war?
It's not real escalation. Border blasting of shit flying around has been a thing during all modern war. Everyone agrees to best maximize the propaganda value of it and then quietly settle things after. Since it's a drone a lot of the normal stuff is cut down, no bodies to recover, many drones are designed to crash on purpose at some point anyway, somebody gets to test their ability to shoot them down, etc.

The U.S. has much better ways of declaring a provocation requiring combat.
The reason I'm more worried about this is because it's Iran, when it comes to the ME, the US doesn't fuck around, even with flimsy motivations. I know they play these petty games in eastern Europe and Africa as well, but the chances of them ever doing something there is nil.

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« Reply #6598 on: June 20, 2019, 01:40:54 PM »


This isn't quite as good as the headline of the year but it's still pretty good.
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« Reply #6599 on: June 20, 2019, 01:52:10 PM »
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1141754168488726528

Boris winning this on the advent of WW3 would be so on brand for him.
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