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« Reply #6660 on: July 02, 2019, 06:07:38 PM »
Von der Leyen failing upward as well. No doubts about incompetence. :shaq2

Parliament still has to vote, so... All hope is not lost.

Sending failing politicians to Brussels is a proud tradition.
She can say hi to Günther Oettinger. 


Maybe the next minister of defence can ensure that more than 1 ship is considered ready for duty.

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« Reply #6661 on: July 02, 2019, 06:08:14 PM »
1. Wrecked Germany's armed forces

This is supposed to make me not like the klanidate [sic]? :doge

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« Reply #6662 on: July 02, 2019, 06:10:16 PM »
Von der Leyen failing upward as well. No doubts about incompetence. :shaq2

Parliament still has to vote, so... All hope is not lost.
It's a deal made between the Visegrad countries and the others.

Orban didn't want Weber, so the socialists lobbied for the top job and the others settled on Frans Timmermans but Orban blocked him too.
So as a compromise they've decided on Ursula. With a German as President they can't deliver the head of the ECB as well.
So that's where France comes in and Macron backed Lagarde for the position.

But these are some bottom tier establishment picks for sure and Orban backed these because they're A) horrible and B) easy targets.
No one has to worry about anything changing the EU except the bar tab and maybe Lagarde will put the entire block on some austerity.  :lol
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« Reply #6663 on: July 02, 2019, 06:11:00 PM »
Without the threat of German invasion, Dutch forum users became known as the worst posters per capita. :ufup

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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6664 on: July 02, 2019, 06:19:13 PM »
The Dutch seemed quite comfortable being occupied by Germans. :doge

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« Reply #6665 on: July 02, 2019, 06:32:37 PM »
An italian judge gave back her freedom to Carola Rackete, the captain of the Sea Watch 3 who forced through the refusal from authorities to anchor in Lampedusa with over 40 migrants they picked up in the Med.
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« Reply #6666 on: July 03, 2019, 12:47:19 AM »
Netherlands national rail finally paying restitution for being paid to transport people to Nazi death camps. Better late than never!

Unless most survivors and perpetrators are dead, I guess. :kermit

Its late but better late then never.

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« Reply #6667 on: July 03, 2019, 01:44:15 AM »
At least the UK still has elections.

You mean, like they got Theresa May without voting for her originally? Or how they'll get Bojo without voting for him? Or the House of Lords? :lol

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« Reply #6668 on: July 03, 2019, 02:27:24 AM »
The Eu is also a democracy but not a direct one thank god so we dont have to worry about clowns like Boris, Trump, Orban, Duda etc.

Brexit shows how stupid people are.

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« Reply #6669 on: July 03, 2019, 02:31:49 AM »



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Great idea. Yasser Arafat, Hugo Chavez were slowly poisoned, by Mosad and the CIA.  :putin
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« Reply #6670 on: July 03, 2019, 07:39:42 AM »
Today in "Brits behaving like a bunch of 5yo abroad".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48839829

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« Reply #6671 on: July 03, 2019, 08:14:41 AM »
Inspired by their role models.


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« Reply #6672 on: July 03, 2019, 05:37:31 PM »
The Eu is also a democracy but not a direct one thank god so we dont have to worry about clowns like Boris, Trump, Orban, Duda etc.

Brexit shows how stupid people are.
You have the chance not to appoint fuck ups and you go with Leyen, Michel, Lagarde and a Spanish convict for the top jobs.
That kinda beats the whole point of appointing the best men/women for the job.

They could've decided on any other establishment picks who aren't complete fuck-ups.  :doge 
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« Reply #6673 on: July 03, 2019, 05:39:12 PM »
They could've decided on any other establishment picks who aren't complete fuck-ups.  :doge

They obviously couldn't or we wouldn't be there.
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« Reply #6674 on: July 03, 2019, 06:50:27 PM »
:lol at the US president drinking Diet Coke out of a wine glass at the G20

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« Reply #6675 on: July 03, 2019, 07:05:19 PM »
:lol at the US president drinking Diet Coke out of a wine glass at the G20
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« Reply #6676 on: July 03, 2019, 07:07:25 PM »
:lol at the US president drinking Diet Coke out of a wine glass at the G20
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« Reply #6677 on: July 03, 2019, 07:08:48 PM »
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« Reply #6678 on: July 03, 2019, 07:08:51 PM »
:lol at the US president drinking Diet Coke out of a wine glass at the G20

Maybe it was kalimotxo, Luis Carrero Blanco. :hmph

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« Reply #6679 on: July 03, 2019, 07:10:13 PM »
not gonna lie though the same characteristics for a wine glass that deliver flavor and senses, also deliver carbonation.  source: I drank coca cola out of wine glasses till I was 57.
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« Reply #6680 on: July 03, 2019, 07:12:03 PM »
Trump drinks at least 12 diet cokes a day.

After his UN speech a while back he toasted with a diet coke.  :doge
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« Reply #6681 on: July 03, 2019, 07:17:02 PM »
Never trust a person who doesn't drink.
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« Reply #6682 on: July 03, 2019, 08:03:15 PM »
If Trump eats Lunchables at a diplomatic dinner then I might have to rethink my stance on him. :american

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« Reply #6684 on: July 04, 2019, 12:36:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1146309908154978305


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« Reply #6685 on: July 04, 2019, 12:39:22 PM »
Yeah yeah nice, no appeasement, can you kindly fuck off now ? You said you were leaving 2 hours ago.
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« Reply #6686 on: July 05, 2019, 08:47:38 AM »
Algerians still in the street (on the day celebrating the independence, no less) to get what they want. The presidential election was supposed to have been held yet for a painful lack of legitimacy of the few people the current institutions are willing to offer the citizens.
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« Reply #6687 on: July 05, 2019, 12:39:33 PM »
Those trade deals are shaping up nicely.

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« Reply #6688 on: July 05, 2019, 12:46:51 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48881327


3 to 11 years?

Put those pieces of shit behind bars for 30y minimum, wtf.

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« Reply #6692 on: July 06, 2019, 05:06:45 AM »
Netherlands national rail finally paying restitution for being paid to transport people to Nazi death camps. Better late than never!

Unless most survivors and perpetrators are dead, I guess. :kermit

My dad has rights to it, but doesn't want to get money over his dad's dead body.

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« Reply #6693 on: July 06, 2019, 05:27:03 AM »
I learned that Boris Johnson is the son of a British MEP and Euro public servant (among other activities) and lived briefly as a teen in Uccle. Fortune is one cheeky bitch.
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« Reply #6695 on: July 07, 2019, 10:51:06 AM »
I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?
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« Reply #6696 on: July 07, 2019, 01:31:05 PM »
Tory members sent 'multiple ballots' for leadership vote

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Some Conservative members have reportedly been sent more than one ballot paper for the leadership election.

More than 1,000 people could have multiple forms in the contest between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, according to a BBC report citing a party source.

The broadcaster said those affected could include people who joined their local Conservative party at their home and work address or others who have changed their name.

Hunt’s campaign chairman, the former cabinet minister Sir Patrick McLoughlin, warned party members should only vote once even if they had received two ballot papers. “It’s made very clear on the ballot paper that you are only allowed to vote once. I expect Conservative members to follow that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.


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McLoughlin acknowledged the error has “got to be looked at”, but added: “It can’t be clearer, it’s right there on the ballot paper saying that you must only vote on one occasion and I expect people to do that.”


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« Reply #6697 on: July 07, 2019, 01:34:38 PM »
Tory members sent 'multiple ballots' for leadership vote

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Some Conservative members have reportedly been sent more than one ballot paper for the leadership election.

More than 1,000 people could have multiple forms in the contest between Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt, according to a BBC report citing a party source.

The broadcaster said those affected could include people who joined their local Conservative party at their home and work address or others who have changed their name.

Hunt’s campaign chairman, the former cabinet minister Sir Patrick McLoughlin, warned party members should only vote once even if they had received two ballot papers. “It’s made very clear on the ballot paper that you are only allowed to vote once. I expect Conservative members to follow that,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme.


Hunt says he received 'Back Boris' campaign email without signing up
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McLoughlin acknowledged the error has “got to be looked at”, but added: “It can’t be clearer, it’s right there on the ballot paper saying that you must only vote on one occasion and I expect people to do that.”


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It seems like Jeremy Hunt was the only Tory not informed that they needed a scapegoat for tanking Brexit  :lol
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« Reply #6698 on: July 07, 2019, 02:57:47 PM »
I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?
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« Reply #6699 on: July 07, 2019, 03:00:31 PM »
I imagine Québec has laws similar to what we have in France (or have/had in Turkey) ?
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:yeshrug
I know French style aggressive secularism confound a lot of people but it doesn't shock me.
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« Reply #6700 on: July 07, 2019, 03:10:32 PM »
My issue is that it seems like a law designed so people can tuck their crosses into their shirts while Muslims get targeted; I don't think its truly a secular motivated law. 
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« Reply #6701 on: July 07, 2019, 03:11:36 PM »
That's true.

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« Reply #6702 on: July 07, 2019, 03:13:34 PM »
At least Québec can point to a time in living memory when their KKKulture was dominated by a very conservative Catholicism. La république outchea fronting when they ain't even got any Cult of Reason festivals on rotation.

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« Reply #6703 on: July 07, 2019, 03:27:15 PM »
Some of the recent developments are clearly Muslim-related but Christians and Catholics in particular never were treated with kid's gloves on the matter. Public servants having to conform at work and citizens having to provide standardized ID photos without any garment or accessories for official identification (and the corollary of police being able to verify those) are fair to me. France allows for private, religious schools for those who can't back down from their faith to that extent.

The rest of the things like mayors banning "burkinis" or whatever is stupid and prejudiced. I don't like burkas but private citizens are allowed to wear them if they so choose. The problem is often vastly overblown when it get coverage.
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« Reply #6704 on: July 07, 2019, 03:41:14 PM »
France can point to strict secularity at least. In Germany you'll find plenty of crosses in classrooms.

Or in the case of Bavaria, an outright mandate to put one on every public building:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329

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Premier Markus Söder said crosses should not be seen as religious symbols but as a "clear avowal of our Bavarian identity and Christian values".
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« Reply #6705 on: July 07, 2019, 03:58:49 PM »
Without Catholicism Bavaria would be *checks notes* the place that speaks silly German that has silly beer laws and a newspaper that functions as the only political opposition. The worst subnational BfV office too I guess.

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« Reply #6706 on: July 07, 2019, 04:20:16 PM »
France can point to strict secularity at least. In Germany you'll find plenty of crosses in classrooms.

Or in the case of Bavaria, an outright mandate to put one on every public building:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43892329

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Premier Markus Söder said crosses should not be seen as religious symbols but as a "clear avowal of our Bavarian identity and Christian values".
:derp

There might be some exceptions in Alsace (clergymen for all Abrahamic denominations are still on public payroll AFAIK).

Edit : I didn't look deep into this but a couple of years ago, imams weren't included in the Alsace-Moselle Concordat dispositions. Some Mosques were financed by public funds in that region on its basis however.
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Re: International Politics Thread - Tankers for Bankers
« Reply #6708 on: July 08, 2019, 02:32:09 AM »
Without Catholicism Bavaria would be *checks notes* the place that speaks silly German that has silly beer laws and a newspaper that functions as the only political opposition. The worst subnational BfV office too I guess.

TIL Carl Wurster received the Bavarian Order of Merit in 1955. :doge

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« Reply #6709 on: July 08, 2019, 02:43:19 AM »
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Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov explained why Vladimir Putin came to dinner in honor of the G20 leaders with a personal thermocup, Znak.com reports.

“He drinks tea from this thermos,” RIA Novosti quotes Peskov. What kind of tea does the Russian leader drink, his press secretary did not reveal.
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« Reply #6710 on: July 08, 2019, 02:44:46 AM »
I am 100% certain it's so he doesn't get poisoned by an assassin
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« Reply #6711 on: July 08, 2019, 02:48:24 AM »
Actually, I think Putin is STRAIGHT EDGE like Trump isn't he?

Maybe they bonded over being germaphobes too. With TRUMP™ Hand Sanitizer.

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« Reply #6712 on: July 08, 2019, 08:36:59 AM »
Diet coke and tea

Those guys are living it up :whew
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« Reply #6713 on: July 08, 2019, 01:52:54 PM »
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« Reply #6715 on: July 08, 2019, 07:11:19 PM »
There will be no bombing war w/Iran.
Same people who are fucking with NK are doing the same to Iran. Trump made history without war with NK it will be the same for Iran.

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« Reply #6716 on: July 08, 2019, 08:22:45 PM »
Oh, is NK giving up their nukes now? I hadn't heard that yet.
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« Reply #6717 on: July 08, 2019, 08:31:07 PM »
I realized last night a little too late that Iran's best strategy right now is to provoke and march to war. If they continue to limp under the crippling sanctions regime, they'd be critically vulnerable, they risk social unrest, and they wouldn't be able to defend themselves or their interests in the region. They have to play hardball now and either make Trump or Europe blink in the face of the unacceptable costs of a major war in the middle east or do serious harm against their enemies in a bid to survive.

If they do nothing at all, that's a 100% chance of getting fucked into oblivion. If they escalate, there's a small (20%? 33%?) chance they can get some kind of deal back. Something that also contributes to this calculus is Trump revealing in Venezuela that he has no stomach for enforcing a red line or a concrete goal if it means real conflict. That weakens his hand significantly - maybe the Iranians wouldn't have been so emboldened otherwise.

Anyway, if those are your options, you might as well YOLO it. This is what happens when your leadership doesn't understand the incentives they're setting up. Then again, I also read some analysis that Pompeo and Bolton do expect a war to happen and are misleading Trump into thinking his brinkmanship will work. It's just fucked all around.
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« Reply #6718 on: July 08, 2019, 08:38:14 PM »
I realized last night a little too late that Iran's best strategy right now is to provoke and march to war. If they continue to limp under the crippling sanctions regime, they'd be critically vulnerable, they risk social unrest, and they wouldn't be able to defend themselves or their interests in the region. They have to play hardball now and either make Trump or Europe blink in the face of the unacceptable costs of a major war in the middle east or do serious harm against their enemies in a bid to survive.

If they do nothing at all, that's a 100% chance of getting fucked into oblivion. If they escalate, there's a small (20%? 33%?) chance they can get some kind of deal back. Something that also contributes to this calculus is Trump revealing in Venezuela that he has no stomach for enforcing a red line or a concrete goal if it means real conflict. That weakens his hand significantly - maybe the Iranians wouldn't have been so emboldened otherwise.

Anyway, if those are your options, you might as well YOLO it. This is what happens when your leadership doesn't understand the incentives they're setting up. Then again, I also read some analysis that Pompeo and Bolton do expect a war to happen and are misleading Trump into thinking his brinkmanship will work. It's just fucked all around.
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« Reply #6719 on: July 08, 2019, 08:53:44 PM »
Oh, is NK giving up their nukes now? I hadn't heard that yet.

KJU is at odds with bad actors in state. The purpose of the USA NK interaction is to flush them out, it is not an overnight operation.