The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.

[Stro]

Lol does anyone use SJW ironically at this point?

[agrajag]

Isn't SJW an ironic term to begin with? 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257452

This follows a huge thread announcing his leaving Kotaku.  Nothing on Klepek here...why do they feel the need to make threads on whenever gaming journo types change jobs and e-stalk them until they announce where they're going?

Don't they call Vice a hipster sweatshop?

[mormapope]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212339788&postcount=472

Btw anti-reboot culture is also ridiculous.

Culture

I'm not one to be overtly respectful to any real cultures, but REBOOTS of movies isn't a fucking culture to begin with. Jesus christ. 

[stufte]

More "you're either with us or you're the enemy" bullshit from the virtue signaling camp. The insanity that this mediocre movie has brought out in some leftists is insane.

[daycru]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257452

This follows a huge thread announcing his leaving Kotaku.  Nothing on Klepek here...why do they feel the need to make threads on whenever gaming journo types change jobs and e-stalk them until they announce where they're going?

An endlessly recycled white guy, how fresh. Why don't these guys ever take their own advice?

[Stro]

Isn't SJW an ironic term to begin with? 

No. Social Justice Warrior was a real thing, and a positive thing, until the last 2-3 years when dudes online claiming to be SJW started becoming so fucking annoying with their virtue signaling the definition changed. SJW has been around since the early 90s, and Gandhi/MLK were described as such at one point.

[benjipwns]

I hope somebody is making a list of all the people who will be on the wrong side of history.

[Dennis]

I am probably going to be OK.

[agrajag]

Isn't SJW an ironic term to begin with? 

No. Social Justice Warrior was a real thing, and a positive thing, until the last 2-3 years when dudes online claiming to be SJW started becoming so fucking annoying with their virtue signaling the definition changed. SJW has been around since the early 90s, and Gandhi/MLK were described as such at one point.

Exactly. So people who use the word as a pejorative are using it ironically. Essentially, the unironic use of the term has completely died out, and people only use it ironically.

[stufte]

I hope somebody is making a list of all the people who will be on the wrong side of history.

I hear there's a twitter block bot that maintains a list of problematic wrongthinkers.

[Dennis]

So when Rich uses the term unironically he is on the side of the angels?

I am so confused 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I like how they affix "culture" to something they don't like.  It's one of those dogwhistles where you realize there's no productive thought to be had from them other than "I'm butthurt about <x>"

[benjipwns]

I'm fed up with unironic anti-ironic social studies warriors and their pro-anti-humor culture.

[Stro]

Isn't SJW an ironic term to begin with? 

No. Social Justice Warrior was a real thing, and a positive thing, until the last 2-3 years when dudes online claiming to be SJW started becoming so fucking annoying with their virtue signaling the definition changed. SJW has been around since the early 90s, and Gandhi/MLK were described as such at one point.

Exactly. So people who use the word as a pejorative are using it ironically. Essentially, the unironic use of the term has completely died out, and people only use it ironically.

If the ironic use of the term becomes the unironic definition, is it still ironic?

 

[I'm a Puppy!]

I only use SJW erotically

[benjipwns]

which one of you gators made this

[I'm a Puppy!]

Can we get that in comic sans?

[agrajag]

which one of you gators made this

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is that marrec on the left?

[FStop7]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257024

Mainstream games media's toxic attitude to Sonic the Hedgehog
iwanttodieiwanttodieiwanttodieiwanttodie

[benjipwns]

Moreover, the failures have allowed anyone who favoured Nintendo back in the day to put on their smuggest face, and frequently (at the smallest provocation) proclaim that Sonic was never good to begin with. I guess for some the 16-bit console wars never stopped, huh? All the glowing reviews from early 90's magazines of yore, the huge volume of young fans it brought happiness to, the industry-wide recognition it garnered, the technical achievements, the incredible music, the enormous community it built, the immense sales and Disney-esque synergy, the inspiration it sparked in growing developers, artists, creators and musicians and the gateway it offered for their talents to blossom, those that changed their lives and forged lifelong careers out of just those first few, excellent Sonic games. You're comfortable disregarding all that?

It's okay that you do not like Sonic, but don't talk down on those who do, and don't try and make history adhere to your head-canon that these games were never good: there's a fucking shit ton of evidence to the contrary. As the TSSZ article states, it's not people's differing opinions that's the problem, it's the sheer unprofessionalism.

[benjipwns]

http://www.tssznews.com/2016/08/01/in-depth-sonic-in-the-mainstream-gaming-media/
this is amazing

But not only was it that, but now there were inexcusable lies (“Green Hill Zone from Sonic 2”) and absolute misinformation (“all of Sonic Mania’s levels are old remakes”).

but it's missing one thing

meaningless imdb score analysis

[agrajag]

[VomKriege]

I like how they affix "culture" to something they don't like.  It's one of those dogwhistles where you realize there's no productive thought to be had from them other than "I'm butthurt about <x>"

"Culture" is great because it is supposedly persavive yet very hard to define or prove.

[benjipwns]

SAGADEGO16
2 August, 2016, 15:36
great topic. also that POS forum neogaf is crapping this article with shit posters like Piston Hyundai and Son of a Witch.

PROWERBOY
2 August, 2016, 16:14
Yeah. He knows. But like he said on Twitter they are just proving his point. First, they apparently are not reading the article because he clearly showed he isn’t talking about the bad games or even not liking Sonic.

Or them Telling us not to take a joke seriously.

This is directed towards them (not you), but if someone makes a serious joke that is intended to be racist do we get upset? For most yes. Because you are encouraging the hate/and the demeaning of other people.

In the same way, we have a right to feel upset if you say things as a joke that are intended to demean anyone who likes Sonic.

If I did that to a peer in real life, someone could hurt themselves for fealing hated or such. The only difference is that you said it to a group.

But sorry I had to rant. XD.

SAGADEGO16
2 August, 2016, 16:19
you should see the owner of Neogaf. Tyler Malka,he threw a big tantrum the day Iwata passed away ’cause people were asking him to have a remembrance forhim. he’s the king of tantrums. if you argue with the asshat, he’ll delete your account.

[benjipwns]

imagine what kind of lives people lead that they spend any time of their day posting crap about an internet forum and complaining about its admin

[Tasty]

Moreover, the failures have allowed anyone who favoured Nintendo back in the day to put on their smuggest face, and frequently (at the smallest provocation) proclaim that Sonic was never good to begin with. I guess for some the 16-bit console wars never stopped, huh? All the glowing reviews from early 90's magazines of yore, the huge volume of young fans it brought happiness to, the industry-wide recognition it garnered, the technical achievements, the incredible music, the enormous community it built, the immense sales and Disney-esque synergy, the inspiration it sparked in growing developers, artists, creators and musicians and the gateway it offered for their talents to blossom, those that changed their lives and forged lifelong careers out of just those first few, excellent Sonic games. You're comfortable disregarding all that?

It's okay that you do not like Sonic, but don't talk down on those who do, and don't try and make history adhere to your head-canon that these games were never good: there's a fucking shit ton of evidence to the contrary. As the TSSZ article states, it's not people's differing opinions that's the problem, it's the sheer unprofessionalism.

You know what, fuck it, he's right.

Nintendo fans are smug about Sonic sucking.

But you know why?

Because he actually fucking sucks and always has*.

When Adventure was released, Nintendo released Mario 64 over two years beforehand. And Mario 64 was still much better.

Sonic Heroes? There was Sunshine. And the gap was even wider despite Sunshine being lesser than 64.

Sonic 2006? There was motherfucking Galaxy. The gap was wide enough to cause a black hole.

And in the last two years: Sonic Boom? There was 3D World.

You can have your opinion that that 2D games were amazing and Nintendo fans are rewriting history, but who's rewriting history for his past 15 years of shitty game after shitty game? I'll tell you: the fucking furry posting that thread.

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*Half of Generations, Colors, and (haven't played it yet) Generations are good though. But still not as good as any Mario platformer.

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[daycru]

I play through Sonic 1 & 2 every year, certified classics. The rest range from delightful disaster to middling remix stuff to garbage fire.

[Mr. Nobody]

I play through Sonic 1 & 2 every year, certified classics. The rest range from delightful disaster to middling remix stuff to garbage fire.

Surely you mean to include 3 & Knuckles, right? 

[Let's Cyber]

I have fond memories of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 but they don't hold up at all.  Chao Garden was addictive as fuck but the actual gameplay isn't great.

I can go back and replay Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario 3D Land fairly often because they aged like a fine wine.

[qq more]

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the GOAT

Sonic Heroes, Shadow and Sonic 06 can all die in a god damn fire

EDIT: And Lost World too. What a shittttt


EDITTTT: I thought 3D Land was boring to be honest. 3D World was fantastic on the other hand!

[parallax]

I have fond memories of Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 but they don't hold up at all.  Chao Garden was addictive as fuck but the actual gameplay isn't great.

I can go back and replay Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario 3D Land fairly often because they aged like a fine wine.

they havent really had time to age like anything though.

[Tasty]

EDITTTT: I thought 3D Land was boring to be honest. 3D World was fantastic on the other hand!

Opposite for me. 3D Land was great, focused and tight. 3D World was all over the place, some good ideas held back by shoehorned multiplayer. It also hurts that at launch I compared 3D Land to past handheld Marios, and 3D World to past console Marios.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Comparing SA and SM64  what are you like 14?

[Let's Cyber]

they havent really had time to age like anything though.

Galaxy is coming up on 9 years old. In vidya game years, that's pretty substantial.   You're right on 3D Land tho, it feels like longer but it only came out in 2011
.

[qq more]

Mario 64 is the best 3D Mario 

[nudemacusers]

sunshine is my favorite mario game tbh. that water

[Tasty]

Yeah, Sunshine got sooooo much flak, but honestly it was still a diamond. A rough diamond at parts but still really great.

[thisismyusername]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/sirrunk/6FIM_O_zpsvafbhhxa.gif

I must know what this is from and the context.

I play through Sonic 1 & 2 every year, certified classics. The rest range from delightful disaster to middling remix stuff to garbage fire.

Surely you mean to include 3 & Knuckles, right? 

and CD.

[D3RANG3D]

Mario Sunshine's hardcore platforming non water pack levels.

 

[Tasty]

Yeah, Sunshine got sooooo much flak, but honestly it was still a diamond. A rough diamond at parts but still really great.

Here's the real mic drop, I like it more than the first Galaxy

What a unique snowflake of an opinion.

Mario Sunshine's hardcore platforming non water pack levels.

 

...are like 5% of the game, lol.

[D3RANG3D]

And that's the only good part. 

[Great Rumbler]

which one of you gators made this

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is that marrec on the left?

I'm pretty sure that's Milo, which is weird because he's a gay conservative, not an SJW.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Guys, guys: FFVI>FFIX>FFV>FFVII>FFX>FFIV>FFVIII>FFXII>FFIII>FFI>FFXIII>FFII

[D3RANG3D]

They exist, what is this GAF?

[Let's Cyber]

Guys, guys: FFVI>FFIX>FFV>FFVII>FFX>FFIV>FFVIII>FFXII>FFIII>FFI>FFXIII>FFII

:Creepy Stalker 

[Joe Molotov]

I played the shit out of Mario Sunshine, but it was straight up garbage. I had a GameCube though, what was I gonna do, play a 3rd party game?

[thisismyusername]

Guys, guys: FFXII>FFVIII>FFIV>FFI>FF* that isn't II-III > having sex with a cactus > FFIII > FFII

Oh, hi. I fixed your rankings.

[daycru]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a235/sirrunk/6FIM_O_zpsvafbhhxa.gif

I must know what this is from and the context.

I play through Sonic 1 & 2 every year, certified classics. The rest range from delightful disaster to middling remix stuff to garbage fire.

Surely you mean to include 3 & Knuckles, right? 

and CD.

3 is where they lost me, didn't get into the level design. I haven't played since I was a kid, so I might like it now. I was really into using the lock on cartridge to play Sonic 2 as Knuckles though. Got Sonic CD on XBLA a few years ago and was just completely bewildered by it.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212332754&postcount=1011

To quote myself:

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Got nothing to do with the topic, you shill. But, in other news:



Once someone figures out the way to bridge this into a CFW or perma-on hack...    

[stufte]

FFVI>FFVII

The rest are shit.

[Trent Dole]

FFVI>FFVII

The rest are shit.

Wrong.

[zomgee]

Also, Super Mario Sunshine is excellent *mic drop*

Microphone bounces on ground, whines with feedback, creates 120hz hum, one person gives pity clap.

Water pack. Awful.

[zomgee]

FFVI>FFVII

The rest are shit.

Wrong.

Creepy Stalker
Creepy Stalker...
Creepy Stalker!!!

[Let's Cyber]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257644
 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

 

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[benjipwns]

RLM thread keeps on giving, so many dog whistles being heard by trained experts

To them, it wasn't about ghostbusters anymore, it was about stopping the feminazis and SJWs from taking over, so they began disliking every single positive review, liking every single negative review, went to every single rating website and started downvoting the movie into oblivion, they then began harassing the reviewers that liked the movie. And they capped it off by launching a racist campaign against Leslie Jones.

No, that wasn't by a vocal minority, it was by the communities of the personalities and websites I listed, they weren't even hiding it, go read the comments on Ghostbusters "review" on Breitbart, the comments make stormfront look sane in comparison.

They are a minority in a sense that of the millions that watched/will watch Ghostbusters, only a few hundred thousand people (maybe one million) participated in the campaign, and dismissing them as a "small vocal minority" is sexist itself, because it comes from a privileged position.

poor stormfront yet again

But that's essentially what McCarthy says herself in the interview clip at the end, and considering that she's one of the people who were personally targeted she's not really coming from a privileged position.

multi-million dollar, third highest paid, actress not coming from privileged position

I used to like RLM. However, they've dived in pretty hard on MRAish tendencies and transphobia. : / A shame cause I really loved everything Best of the Worst, Scientist Man Explains Terminator, Half in the Bag, etc. etc.

I'd love to watch this but their videos are so cringe now.

Cringe means using actual slurs. If Rich Evans just yelled the n-word, would you be just laughing hysterically at his clever joke?

.....i could picture this

They're rationally defending being white guys.

Fine, at least they're using their brains. But that freaking urge to dismiss your own privilege man. I appreciate where they're coming from, but like South Park's take earlier, it can demonstrably enable some asshole-ish behavior in your viewers.

Responsibility in media shouldn't become self-censorship, but you should be able to honestly and sympathetically weigh your own experiences against that of others and realize that as a whole, sometimes your group is in very little need of defending-- even if as individuals your opinions are valid.

man, responsibility in media man, sit down and think about any asshole-ish behavior your viewers might engage in before speaking man

especially you're a gator MRAer whose ppinion of cinematic masterpieces are determined entirely by the presence of women and/or minority

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"Hey, hey, no jokes allowed."
"Is that what they told Paul Feig?"
"...Yes."

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[Let's Cyber]

It must be exhausting seeing MRAs, Gators and other offensive groups around every corner, every post and every video.  Anyone could be holding DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC views behind that keyboard, look out!

It is like the internet version of the Red Scare.

[I'm a Puppy!]

It must be exhausting seeing MRAs, Gators and other offensive groups around every corner, every post and every video.  Anyone could be holding DEEPLY PROBLEMATIC views behind that keyboard, look out!

It is like the internet version of the Red Scare.

Sounds like a suspicious thing to say

[nachobro]

all these people who say internet comments "make stormfront look sane" haven't ever been to stormfront. dudes would be getting the vapors within moments.

[nachobro]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212402342&postcount=8