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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24240 on: August 11, 2016, 12:11:01 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

Xenoblade X was a disappointment due to its lack of story and questionable design decisions/progression gating. But it had an awesome world to explore and great soundtrack (FUCK DA HATERS). SO5 was average in all aspects except its combat system, which was a bumbling unplayable mess.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24241 on: August 11, 2016, 12:26:06 PM »
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« Reply #24242 on: August 11, 2016, 12:48:22 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

Xenoblade X was a disappointment due to its lack of story and questionable design decisions/progression gating. But it had an awesome world to explore and great soundtrack (FUCK DA HATERS). SO5 was average in all aspects except its combat system, which was a bumbling unplayable mess.
But Xenoblade X followed the generally accepted awesome Xenoblade. SO5 followed SO4 which followed SO3. People should have been accustomed to disappointment by then.
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« Reply #24243 on: August 11, 2016, 12:49:25 PM »
Which was the biggest disappointment

Xenoblade X

Star Ocean 5

Star Ocean 5, definitely.

I still had a lot of fun with Xenoblade X, even though it wasn't as good as its predecessor. Star Ocean 5 was just so dull and uninteresting, with the worst combat system in the series.
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« Reply #24244 on: August 11, 2016, 12:54:45 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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« Reply #24245 on: August 11, 2016, 01:11:50 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
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« Reply #24246 on: August 11, 2016, 01:25:12 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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It's usually determined by what consumers in the market are willing to pay. I'd make a large wager that indie devs that don't get E3 showtime and propped up by Sony aren't going to be selling their games for $60. Price tags are also based on physical retail sales and what cut everyone involved with that process gets.

Minecraft offers a lot more than No Man's sky, and Notch/whoever decided the original price point and price points in the future were pretty smart and level headed.

This pricing issue also applies to AAA games, $60 as a static price point is fucking terrible. SFV shouldn't have been $60, remasters shouldn't be $60,
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24247 on: August 11, 2016, 01:27:07 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
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« Reply #24248 on: August 11, 2016, 01:30:36 PM »
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« Reply #24249 on: August 11, 2016, 01:34:54 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's usually determined by what consumers in the market are willing to pay. I'd make a large wager that indie devs that don't get E3 showtime and propped up by Sony aren't going to be selling their games for $60. Price tags are also based on physical retail sales and what cut everyone involved with that process gets.

Minecraft offers a lot more than No Man's sky, and Notch/whoever decided the original price point and price points in the future were pretty smart and level headed.

Minecraft was a shell of it's current form when it was originally sold to the public. It was sold for $15 dollars during the alpha (which freaked people out at the time), and was subsequently sold for $20 once it went into beta. This was just for creative mode, it took months before they implemented many of the basic features you see in the game these days. But honestly, if Minecraft was released today in it's current form, with all the features and content that it has easily rivaling "AAA" games that are sold at a premium, they could as $60 dollars for it and even though it would be worth the money, people would still bitch about it because it's an indie game.

Also $60 dollars is a perfectly fine price point for games. I and many others rate the quality of a purchase on $ per hour of entertainment. Movies are a shit value in that regard, $15 for 2 hours of entertainment (and that's not including the price of snacks). Most $60 games that I've enjoyed have given me 20 hours or more of entertainment. $3 per hour? That's a fucking value.
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« Reply #24250 on: August 11, 2016, 01:44:43 PM »
The standard for games like Minecraft have changed dramatically, so if something like Minecraft came out today and has as many features, the expectation would be a $20 or $30 price point.

There's a game called Space Engineers that trumps Minecraft and No Man's Sky in depth and scope, its $24.99 for an early access copy while also being in the $5 tier in a current humble bundle. The devs have made smart and fair decisions for their game.

No Man's Sky being $60 will probably end up being a fairly smart strategy, but it doesn't seem fair or justified, not even close. People will pump hundreds or thousands of dollars into free to play games, doesn't mean the devs are justified in asking for $200 as a base price point in the future.

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Also $60 dollars is a perfectly fine price point for games. I and many others rate the quality of a purchase on $ per hour of entertainment. Movies are a shit value in that regard, $15 for 2 hours of entertainment (and that's not including the price of snacks). Most $60 games that I've enjoyed have given me 20 hours or more of entertainment. $3 per hour? That's a fucking value.

So you've been dissatisfied with AAA games lately that cost $60, or rather, No Man's Sky is way better than those games, and yet you're fine with that $60 price point?
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« Reply #24251 on: August 11, 2016, 01:54:07 PM »

So you've been dissatisfied with AAA games lately that cost $60, or rather, No Man's Sky is way better than those games, and yet you're fine with that $60 price point?

Some $60 games are worth the money, some aren't. NMS is worth $60 IMHO. It might not be worth that to others.

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« Reply #24252 on: August 11, 2016, 02:15:54 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24253 on: August 11, 2016, 02:17:21 PM »
One reason why I still might get NMS (when it's not $60) is so I can have an endless supply of weird creatures to draw. :doge

Just get a mirror and sketch yourself from various angles  :aweshum
It's too early in the day for this weapons grade ether. :brazilcry

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« Reply #24254 on: August 11, 2016, 02:18:09 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

Go find a sea creature that won't shut up and name it Squiddy Pls, pls.
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« Reply #24255 on: August 11, 2016, 02:21:12 PM »
Well I'm going to name the most distinguished mentally-challenged looking animals I find in NMS after both 213372bu and mormapope. That'll increase my value by at least a few dollars.  :doge

Please spread my seed for me  :noah
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« Reply #24256 on: August 11, 2016, 02:29:35 PM »
small indie game

$60

I've put in more hours and had more fun with NMS so far than I've had with "proper" $60 AAA games that I've played in the past.

People need to stop this "indie games should be $10" bullshit thinking. The product price shouldn't be determined by the dev team size...


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« Reply #24257 on: August 11, 2016, 02:42:22 PM »
Wow everyone really got a hate boner for a small indie game.

I hope NMS is good but then I never really had any illusion that it would be a game of great gameplay depth.

A simple game for space exploration nerds like me who would just enjoy the atmosphere of it and not really care about gameplay.

But it's not even this.  What kind of exploration involves no mapping or charting?  You find something cool on a planet and there is literally no way to return to it unless you get incredibly lucky.  The exploration is maybe the shallowest part of the game.

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« Reply #24258 on: August 11, 2016, 02:53:03 PM »
You will tick the boxes, human.

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« Reply #24259 on: August 11, 2016, 02:55:00 PM »
posted in the no man's sky review thread



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« Reply #24260 on: August 11, 2016, 02:55:44 PM »
You will tick the boxes, human.

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« Reply #24261 on: August 11, 2016, 03:01:23 PM »
Liu Kang Baking A Pie banned. Probabaly for this post in that 'yellowface' thread

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This is the whitest post.

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« Reply #24262 on: August 11, 2016, 03:12:09 PM »
Liu Kang Baking A Pie banned. Probabaly for this post in that 'yellowface' thread

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This is the whitest post.

Probably just a slap on the wrist.

Wow, I figured that guy was ban proof from all the shit he gets away with.

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« Reply #24263 on: August 11, 2016, 03:14:26 PM »
LKBAP is a white guy, right?  That's a lot of self hate


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« Reply #24265 on: August 11, 2016, 03:34:09 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213282381&postcount=218

A dozen people on twitter poking fun at an ideology is triggering AF.

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« Reply #24266 on: August 11, 2016, 03:46:58 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

Mad Max was done the right way.

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« Reply #24267 on: August 11, 2016, 03:51:01 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

I mean, I don't personally care what they decide to reboot and with what gender, but it should be insulting, but for some reason it isn't. It's basically telling women and girls that they don't deserve the difficult task of new or unique characters. I'm seriously baffled that these weak reboots are the new feminist battleground. It's pathetic.

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« Reply #24268 on: August 11, 2016, 03:53:08 PM »
They're cynical cash ins.  Enough of them will flop and you will never see the concept again.
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« Reply #24269 on: August 11, 2016, 03:56:56 PM »
it's cute when people expect pricing in a market economy to follow any coherent logic :doge
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« Reply #24270 on: August 11, 2016, 03:57:49 PM »
I'm fine with it as long as it makes a good work :yeshrug
The latest Ghostbusters was apparently just mediocre. That's the issue.
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« Reply #24271 on: August 11, 2016, 04:04:41 PM »


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« Reply #24272 on: August 11, 2016, 04:41:46 PM »
The good thing with those vidyagames controversy is that you know it's gonna have an happy ending :

- NMS probably made some healthy 60$ sales for an indie game which would result in decent bank.
- If it didn't bomb, the game might get decent support and some of the stuff missed by certain players could be patched in.
- GAF, reddit and similar sites are making big traffic with those huge controversy threads.
- Most of the people scandalized will have fogotten their outrage for the next hyped Sony, Hello Games or whatever title.

If Sean Murray use some of that money to hire a PR guy to avoid a severe case of Molyneux next time, he should be fine.

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« Reply #24273 on: August 11, 2016, 05:02:40 PM »
My thoughts haven't really changed on the game. The GAF mob for this game being what it was it was futile trying to have a nuanced discussion about this game. This is a game that could be a really, really cool sequel...but people needed to draw in their expectations heavily on this.

This one just wasn't in a position to be that.  People were expecting a 5 team company to deliver a GOTY, borderline GOTG type product and that was just ridiculous. It was never pretty enough, deep enough or diverse enough to be a cool walking simulator and the gameplay has always been a huge red flag.

If it seems like they are addressing issues well and make it seem like they will build on this properly, I will probably buy it still. Just not at $60.


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« Reply #24274 on: August 11, 2016, 05:06:21 PM »


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« Reply #24275 on: August 11, 2016, 05:16:41 PM »
Ambitious games fail to deliver all the time. No Man's Sky is just another in a long line of them. This one just happened to have that hype because Sony got out in front of it so hard which is why the defense force for this one is so strong. It happens.

I'm curious if a modding scene will be able to develop around the PC version and maybe turn it into a more interesting experience.

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« Reply #24276 on: August 11, 2016, 05:37:19 PM »
Not surprised at all. I never got the idea this game had any sense of cohesive vision at all.

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« Reply #24277 on: August 11, 2016, 06:46:46 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1254579&page=6

NPD threads were already becoming sad graveyards with the new reporting method. But both Nintendo and Microsoft beating Sony this month? The salt returns :rofl

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« Reply #24278 on: August 11, 2016, 06:48:47 PM »
lol is that game why reddit is getting rekt right now?
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« Reply #24280 on: August 11, 2016, 07:52:49 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

Mad Max was done the right way.
It's a gimmick. Plain and simple. If they made a heist film with an all-female cast, there wouldn't be any kind of controversy at all.

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« Reply #24281 on: August 11, 2016, 08:05:50 PM »
Based Gamefly saved me money on NMS, Its unfinished and just boring. That review up a few is correct. It is awesome 2 hours in and then you realize its the same damn thing over and over again.


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« Reply #24282 on: August 11, 2016, 08:28:19 PM »
I guess I am a misogynist because I think thawing out old franchises and making them GRRL POWR is super fucking cynical and lame.

Mad Max was done the right way.

Mad Max would've been fine if they made him (Max) a girl. There's nothing wrong with GRRL POWER in general, but most reboots do it badly which is where I think a lot of the (misguided from misogynist men) hate comes from.

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« Reply #24283 on: August 11, 2016, 08:31:41 PM »
Ghostbusters reboot was the film version of "shrink it and pink it"
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« Reply #24284 on: August 11, 2016, 08:43:21 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=213295800&postcount=3987

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Holy shit. :lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :neogaf

Ghostbusters reboot was the film version of "shrink it and pink it"

That's most reboots in general. There's been no original thoughts in the movie industry in a while. Sure there's a few outliers like Boyhood, but most films are either reboots or remakes now a days (or comic films)

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« Reply #24285 on: August 12, 2016, 12:23:09 AM »
The funniest part is that women give FUCK ALL about Ghostbusters. There's gotta be what, over 2.5 billion
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« Reply #24286 on: August 12, 2016, 03:24:48 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=213345216#post213345216

Advocate attacks on websites containing reviews of entertainment products you disagree with, brehs  :doge

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« Reply #24287 on: August 12, 2016, 03:50:41 AM »
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« Reply #24289 on: August 12, 2016, 04:47:43 AM »
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« Reply #24290 on: August 12, 2016, 06:49:55 AM »
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« Reply #24291 on: August 12, 2016, 08:14:16 AM »
Oh my god 4chan? I've never been there and I will never go there. They say really mean things about people and I don't want to go to jail.
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« Reply #24292 on: August 12, 2016, 08:47:15 AM »
That Cuck site is a real page on Gawker? ROFL
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« Reply #24293 on: August 12, 2016, 08:50:42 AM »
I think it's Gawker's version of Clickhole.
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« Reply #24294 on: August 12, 2016, 09:08:27 AM »
That reminds me...

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« Reply #24296 on: August 12, 2016, 09:11:18 AM »
Gawker media is getting auctioned off next week, I guess the staff is just saying fuck it at this point.

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« Reply #24297 on: August 12, 2016, 09:24:40 AM »
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« Reply #24298 on: August 12, 2016, 09:30:50 AM »
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« Reply #24299 on: August 12, 2016, 10:46:41 AM »
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