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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24660 on: August 18, 2016, 09:24:28 AM »
Passport says 6'1" but I'm 6' I think. That's pretty short nowadays

I checked online and thats just the average height in Denmark but apparently you Americans are smaller (for a Polack I'm slightly above average).

Look at that gold medal count and revel in our complete athletic superiority you chubby wannabe euro communist shitball. :expert

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(Are Europeans really that tall?)

European countries combined have more than 3 times as many medals as the US tho

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Height varies  by country as Dufus said although I believe the average height in europe has increased over the the last decades while in the US it largely stayed the same

That's like saying the Browns gave more NFL titles than the Giants. Ancient history don't count breh.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24661 on: August 18, 2016, 09:27:56 AM »
Yeah.  All that time could've been used on a PC port.  :maf

Exactly, Xbone owners don't exactly buy Japanese games in droves, what wasn't it like a 9:1 ratio for Type-0 HD?
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24662 on: August 18, 2016, 09:38:08 AM »
Yeah.  All that time could've been used on a PC port.  :maf

Exactly, Xbone owners don't exactly buy Japanese games in droves, what wasn't it like a 9:1 ratio for Type-0 HD?

That American superior taste. Who wants to play a glorified excel spreadsheet? :kobeyuck
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24663 on: August 18, 2016, 10:27:18 AM »
Passport says 6'1" but I'm 6' I think. That's pretty short nowadays

I checked online and thats just the average height in Denmark but apparently you Americans are smaller (for a Polack I'm slightly above average).

Look at that gold medal count and revel in our complete athletic superiority you chubby wannabe euro communist shitball. :expert

:umad


(Are Europeans really that tall?)

European countries combined have more than 3 times as many medals as the US tho

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Height varies  by country as Dufus said although I believe the average height in europe has increased over the the last decades while in the US it largely stayed the same

That's like saying the Browns gave more NFL titles than the Giants. Ancient history don't count breh.

Ancient history? That's at Rio 2016.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24664 on: August 18, 2016, 10:31:34 AM »
Yeah.  All that time could've been used on a PC port.  :maf

Exactly, Xbone owners don't exactly buy Japanese games in droves, what wasn't it like a 9:1 ratio for Type-0 HD?

That American superior taste. Who wants to play a glorified excel spreadsheet? :kobeyuck

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24665 on: August 18, 2016, 12:06:09 PM »
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24666 on: August 18, 2016, 12:17:23 PM »
I can't wait to play it on my PS3!
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24667 on: August 18, 2016, 12:19:15 PM »

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24668 on: August 18, 2016, 12:19:33 PM »
So glad I exited Final Fantasy with X, utter garbage since

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« Reply #24669 on: August 18, 2016, 12:22:01 PM »
Ill still play it

benjipwns

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« Reply #24670 on: August 18, 2016, 01:29:53 PM »
This Final Fantasy debacle just proves Indie games are usually far more revolutionary and innovative than any other type of game.

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« Reply #24671 on: August 18, 2016, 01:32:47 PM »
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This will probably be fixed in a day one patch. It's far too early to tell anything at all about the final game.

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« Reply #24672 on: August 18, 2016, 02:09:49 PM »
Wait, is that what the final game actually looks like?
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« Reply #24673 on: August 18, 2016, 02:18:31 PM »
This is a fantasy based on reality.

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« Reply #24674 on: August 18, 2016, 02:18:35 PM »
The gif is definitely blurring the game a bit, but there was a pretty big downgrade. The screenshots 213372bu posted a page or two back show how dated the game looks.
 
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« Reply #24675 on: August 18, 2016, 02:20:56 PM »
This Final Fantasy debacle just proves Indie games are usually far more revolutionary and innovative than any other type of game.
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« Reply #24676 on: August 18, 2016, 03:02:18 PM »
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Wow, that is one helluva downgrade.  I've been expecting the game to suck but I had no idea it wouldn't look like the trailers that were already downgrades of the CG BS trailers.

Really does look PS3-based. Which is weird because I thought the whole point of moving to ps4 was to not be held back.  Man, this game should've just come out on PS3, been ass and then we'd have XVI built on ps4 by now.

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« Reply #24677 on: August 18, 2016, 03:16:41 PM »
Man, this game should've just come out on PS3, been ass and then we'd have XVI built on ps4 by now.
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« Reply #24678 on: August 18, 2016, 03:18:17 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1265580 ITT a lot of people who spend a lot of time throwing around words like "entitlement" and "privilege" discover what happens when those things run out.

The "it's just a prank, bro" defense doesn't work in the real world.

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« Reply #24679 on: August 18, 2016, 03:20:40 PM »
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24680 on: August 18, 2016, 03:22:04 PM »
I get plenty of matches with girls I find very unattractive on tinder which I guess means well I don't know what it means. Maybe lower my standards, but it's not standards in the way "I don't want BBWs or something". I guess I just have to realize I'm not going to get a cute chick and settle.

Yes, the former is what the later means. Why are you repeating yourself? :doge
I guess I meant preferences. At this point any type of girl will do. Race, creed, status, even body type to a point. But if anything tinder has told me I'll probably have to settle for women most men would think are ugly. I guess it's better to realize that reality now rather then later.

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« Reply #24681 on: August 18, 2016, 03:25:41 PM »
Eh I'm still going to get XV and probably enjoy it more then most RPGs to which Xenoblade and the Witcher 3 are the only recent ones I've liked.

The game doesn't look bad and if they can just get it to run well I'll be fine. As long as the combat, subsystems, and cast are enjoyable I'll be more then happy. And pretty much all the previews are pretty positive in that regard.

I mean I'm going to go see Kingsglaive on Friday. My belief in this game can't be destroyed.
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« Reply #24682 on: August 18, 2016, 03:28:35 PM »
The crazy thing is that top version of the city probably wouldn't even run today on a maxed out PC rig.  Whatever target they were aiming for was not in this timeline.

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« Reply #24683 on: August 18, 2016, 03:37:20 PM »
Here's the full video from Gamescom, so we can stop looking at gifs:

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« Reply #24684 on: August 18, 2016, 03:41:05 PM »
https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughTrumpSpam/comments/4y8rb2/the_donald_monderator_breitbart_editor_and_trump/?st=IS0HN52U&sh=29cbedcf

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i don't use the word hero lightly but

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1265580 ITT a lot of people who spend a lot of time throwing around words like "entitlement" and "privilege" discover what happens when those things run out.

The "it's just a prank, bro" defense doesn't work in the real world.
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This is absolutely disgusting that a billionaire on a personal vendetta is able to shut down outlets he doesn't like. The chilling effect will be massive.

Gawker's hogan story was litigated but hogan would not have gone as far as he did without Thiel. He wanted to get the video down, he did. They took it down the moment a court told them to. I have no problem with litigating that or any other legal violations but the fact that Thiel fought them from using insurance basically was with one goal to shut them down.

Many publications have posting things in error and on bad judgement. They get ligated but the punishment never is the death penalty.

This is a worrying sign for the future of online journalism.
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THIS IS A BAD THING FOR DEMOCRACY.

I mean lets look at NY times v sullivan to know what the reason behind these kind of cases are how they've been used in the past

This is already a problem but they often didn't fear the absolute wrath because of a non-illegal post

Remember this guy who funded this case supports donald trump who has promised to "loosen libel lies" he wants to make this even worse.

The problem is this didn't happen because of the hogan post this happened because of the critical posts of thiel
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First of all this was a Florida Jury in (near?) Hogan's hometown. Not the judge, and the just was overruled and the jury's award will be on appeals.

The jury was allowed to hear hogan trash gawker on unrelated matters but they also weren't able to hear that this video contained hogan go on a racist rant which is surely in the public interest.
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Its not bullshit. Anyone posting online now fears upsetting a billionare who has an vendetta.

Thiel literally a facist who doesn't believe in democracy, runs a spy ring and is a vampire
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It's a shame kotaku didn't go down with them
No it's not. People are losing their job over this. You don't like Kotaku? Just don't visit. Don't be an asshole.
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« Reply #24685 on: August 18, 2016, 03:45:04 PM »
We need Creepy Stalker more than ever, free the mind!

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24686 on: August 18, 2016, 03:45:40 PM »
Why the fuck is everyone trying to defend Gawker? What's the motivation?

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« Reply #24687 on: August 18, 2016, 03:48:52 PM »
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Its not bullshit. Anyone posting online now fears upsetting a billionare who has an vendetta.

Thiel literally a facist who doesn't believe in democracy, runs a spy ring and is a vampire
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« Reply #24688 on: August 18, 2016, 03:50:39 PM »


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« Reply #24689 on: August 18, 2016, 03:55:09 PM »
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wut. So the problem isn't Gawker doing something morally wrong and illegal, but the billionaire that chose to fund the lawsuit? Isn't it sad that a billionaire was even needed to get the justice that Hogan deserved? What a warped view of reality.

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« Reply #24690 on: August 18, 2016, 04:03:15 PM »
Remember that time that AJ Daulerio said he would consider not publishing a celebrity sextape if the celebrity was under the age of 4? Good times.
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« Reply #24691 on: August 18, 2016, 04:09:43 PM »
Thiel is funding a bunch of lawsuits against Gawker and it probably is entirely for revenge. But now the rest of the company is protected by bankruptcy and a multi-billion dollar international corporation, so democracy is safe.

Denton fucked up hard too:
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On July 29, 2016, in a meeting with the courts, Denton was chastised by the courts who stated that Denton's valuation of the company had been inflated by him (Denton) to give the impression that the company was worth more than it actually was. In the court records, the judge stated that Denton had informed the court that the value of the stock he himself held was valued at eighty-one million dollars. This valuation was used to give the court and Hogan that the offer of turning over Denton's stock would cover the majority of the money owed by the company. However, the stocks were found to be valued at thirty million, and not the cited eighty-one million. In the wake of this revelation, the court ordered that Denton had not acted in good faith, and issued an order stating that Hogan could begin seizing assets from Gawker.

Denton's always played up the value of the company while also saying "journalism isn't about profits" at the same time. IIRC, the company barely had the assets to pay off Hogan's secondary judgement of $25 million, let alone his primary one.

Univision way overpaid. And Ziff-Davis starting the bidding at $100 million was funny.

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« Reply #24692 on: August 18, 2016, 04:44:19 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214140315&postcount=440

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Here, Jason, while I'm reading up on this particular judge, you can read up on this:

Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics

Disseminate it among your coworkers.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24693 on: August 18, 2016, 04:46:24 PM »
That Jason dude uses Neogaf as a soapbox and to get his ass licked. He probably won't even be out of a job, he's popping off for no reason.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24694 on: August 18, 2016, 04:51:29 PM »
The whole Gawker thing is a no one wins scenario except a libertarian billionaire.  If that doesn't concern you I don't know what to say.
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« Reply #24695 on: August 18, 2016, 04:52:32 PM »
Remember that time that AJ Daulerio said he would consider not publishing a celebrity sextape if the celebrity was under the age of 4? Good times.

The "just a prank, pro" defense was literally used regarding Daulerio in the gaf thread.  Their lack of self-awareness is kind of amazing.  No shit he wasn't being literal, but he was being asked in court and under oath.  Being a smartass in that kind of situation is why Gawker lost the case, not because of Peter Thiel or whatever other boogeyman they want to dream up in order to deflect their own responsibilities.

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« Reply #24696 on: August 18, 2016, 04:53:42 PM »
NeoGAF: Break up the police unions, fire them all

NeoGAF: Gawker doesn't deserve to be put out of business, they didn't do anything that wrong

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archie4208

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« Reply #24697 on: August 18, 2016, 04:55:11 PM »
I wonder how GAF posters would feel if they had a sex tape leaked online and a website refused to take it down.

Granted, it's GAF so we'll never know. 

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24698 on: August 18, 2016, 04:56:53 PM »
Gawker should've led with the racist shit.  Then no one would've cared.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24699 on: August 18, 2016, 05:00:33 PM »
So glad I exited Final Fantasy with X, utter garbage since


12 was the best in the series though. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :confused :confused

(In before Walrus' irrational hate of 12 because he's a weeaboo)

The gif is definitely blurring the game a bit, but there was a pretty big downgrade. The screenshots 213372bu posted a page or two back show how dated the game looks.

Excuse me?

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24700 on: August 18, 2016, 05:00:47 PM »
The whole Gawker thing is a no one wins scenario except a libertarian billionaire.  If that doesn't concern you I don't know what to say.

That just sounds like life, tbh.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24701 on: August 18, 2016, 05:01:00 PM »
I wonder how GAF posters would feel if they had a sex tape leaked online and a website refused to take it down.

Granted, it's GAF so we'll never know.
Didn't a guy do that? He didn't care as I remember.
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« Reply #24702 on: August 18, 2016, 05:01:24 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214140315&postcount=440

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Here, Jason, while I'm reading up on this particular judge, you can read up on this:

Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics

Disseminate it among your coworkers.

 :delicious
Something something billionaire something something racist

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« Reply #24703 on: August 18, 2016, 05:03:07 PM »
So glad I exited Final Fantasy with X, utter garbage since


12 was the best in the series though. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :confused :confused

(In before Walrus' irrational hate of 12 because he's a weeaboo)
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Whoa there. Walrus might be a guy who plays guitar at a party but even I have to agree with him there. Don't gotta be a weeaboo to see that the only cool things in FFXII were the hunts, Balthier the Judge armors and nothing else.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24704 on: August 18, 2016, 05:08:46 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214140315&postcount=440

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Here, Jason, while I'm reading up on this particular judge, you can read up on this:

Society of Professional Journalists Code of Ethics

Disseminate it among your coworkers.

 :delicious

I mellowed a bit on Schreier after hearing him on Three Moves Ahead. He was at the forefront of the NMS delay thing and got ridiculous abuse because of it too. However he can be really grating in his GAF posting.

We didn't win anything out of that Gawker dumpster fire but has anything of value been lost ?
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24705 on: August 18, 2016, 05:20:07 PM »
that the only cool things in FFXII were the hunts, Balthier the Judge armors and nothing else.

You're forgetting:

-Ivalice world design.
-The License Board (in International)
-Gambits.

Any JRPG now a days that doesn't let you set the game to auto-grind itself is  :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz-ville

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« Reply #24706 on: August 18, 2016, 05:22:22 PM »
Play games where you have to grind brehs. :doge
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24707 on: August 18, 2016, 05:23:15 PM »
Play games where you have to grind brehs. :doge

:confused

How did you beat Yaizmat if you didn't let the game grind itself? :doge

But for real: Gambits and the Combat system are still the best JRPG system to date. Other games really need to get on that ability to set the game to kill combat as fast as possible.

Persona 3-4 tried with the "Rush" system they had, but that only allowed physical attacks and no elemental weakness/debuff->All-out-Attacks. Which is what those games combat systems drilled into your head to get the combat over with quickly.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24708 on: August 18, 2016, 05:57:24 PM »

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« Reply #24709 on: August 18, 2016, 06:44:33 PM »
Play games where you have to grind brehs. :doge

:confused

How did you beat Yaizmat if you didn't let the game grind itself? :doge

But for real: Gambits and the Combat system are still the best JRPG system to date. Other games really need to get on that ability to set the game to kill combat as fast as possible.

Persona 3-4 tried with the "Rush" system they had, but that only allowed physical attacks and no elemental weakness/debuff->All-out-Attacks. Which is what those games combat systems drilled into your head to get the combat over with quickly.
I'm so old that when I see that I have to play 3 hours of meaninglesss battles to take on a boss, why even spend the time doing it? Is that fun? The fact that it's automated isn't that much of a selling point, it just means I don't even have to be there for it. So that makes the question of why I'm doing it is even more pressing.  I remember playing FFXII zodiac and literally there'd be swathes of the game where I would run around with one hand while I was reading a book while the game played itself.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24710 on: August 18, 2016, 06:54:55 PM »
Yeah, but you can masturbate to Ashe's ass while doing those battles one-handed. What's not to love about that? :doge

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« Reply #24711 on: August 18, 2016, 06:57:06 PM »
play JRPG's on an emulator at 4x speed to make grinding faster brehs

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« Reply #24712 on: August 18, 2016, 06:59:34 PM »
Why masturbate to Ashe when you can masturbate to Fran?  :doge Why not both?  :doge
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24713 on: August 18, 2016, 07:09:52 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=214157748&postcount=2228

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The had rotating planets and orbits, real stars and infinite universe in February according to Sean. They must have spent all the time since February taking out features from the game.

We should take Sean's word for it, because he's proven himself to be a very trustworthy person.  :doge

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24714 on: August 18, 2016, 07:54:41 PM »
Why masturbate to Ashe when you can masturbate to Fran?  :doge Why not both?  :doge

:leon  :mynicca

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24715 on: August 18, 2016, 08:20:43 PM »
So glad I exited Final Fantasy with X, utter garbage since


12 was the best in the series though. ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? :confused :confused

(In before Walrus' irrational hate of 12 because he's a weeaboo)
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Whoa there. Walrus might be a guy who plays guitar at a party but even I have to agree with him there. Don't gotta be a weeaboo to see that the only cool things in FFXII were the hunts, Balthier the Judge armors and nothing else.
Well this is just wrong bullshit.

The story may not be the best, but it is by far the best acted JRPG pretty much ever. From the writing to the voice acting no other JRPG tops it. 

The battle system is extremely user defined. Play however you want. Full control, slow paced, fast paced, auto, whatever. It's up to you and because of that its one of the easiest RPGs to get into. Grinding? If the game really has grinding it's possibly the most relaxing grinding out there.

And well the art design speaks for itself. As does the world. It's top class and a joy to journey through.

FFXII is a work of art.


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« Reply #24716 on: August 18, 2016, 08:36:06 PM »
Best acted? Maybe. It's hard to tell when it was obviously recorded in a phone booth.
User defined battle system? Sure. But anyone with an ounce of programming background can set the game to play itself with no interaction for 80-90% of the battles. If the game doesn't need you to play it, where is the sense of danger or urgency. "Oh, it's a boss, I should probably pick up the controller."
Ivalice is stunning, to be sure. No one can debate that. Shame they didn't put as much time in dungeon design, beautiful but aggravating.

Ultimately I think FFXII is more akin to Shenmue than anything else. It's a better experience than a game. Of course, in a post NMS world, that saying should probably be updated because at least Shenmue and FFXII were games.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24717 on: August 18, 2016, 08:58:22 PM »
If the game doesn't need you to play it, where is the sense of danger or urgency. "Oh, it's a boss, I should probably pick up the controller."
So it's a JRPG? Other than bosses, you can get your 'thrills' by venturing into areas you're too weak for or by doing side stuff. Clearing trash isn't fun or engaging in any way. To me anyway. That's why I love Dragon Quarter and FF12. FF12 let's you automate the tedious shit, Dragon Quarter allows you to thin the herd before battles even begin. They also don't have battle transitions, which also helps. Grandia's system was fun too, but I don't know if I could stand it today.

The SMT games are the only JRPGs I can think of where a regular battle can lead to a wipe. Half the danger there are insta-kill spells, which can feel cheap, but even if something merely targets your weakness things can domino into a full wipe.

Menu driven combat combined with frequent but boring encounters is the worst.
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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24718 on: August 18, 2016, 09:08:34 PM »
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If the game doesn't need you to play it, where is the sense of danger or urgency. "Oh, it's a boss, I should probably pick up the controller."
So it's a JRPG? Other than bosses, you can get your 'thrills' by venturing into areas you're too weak for or by doing side stuff. Clearing trash isn't fun or engaging in any way. To me anyway. That's why I love Dragon Quarter and FF12. FF12 let's you automate the tedious shit, Dragon Quarter allows you to thin the herd before battles even begin. They also don't have battle transitions, which also helps. Grandia's system was fun too, but I don't know if I could stand it today.

The SMT games are the only JRPGs I can think of where a regular battle can lead to a wipe. Half the danger there are insta-kill spells, which can feel cheap, but even if something merely targets your weakness things can domino into a full wipe.

Menu driven combat combined with frequent but boring encounters is the worst.

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Let's be fair though: SMT at least makes those wipes quick and then you learn to scan the enemies for weaknesses so you can exploit that yourself. It's completely fair for both sides. The only complaint I have is that "rush" mode in the games that have it doesn't do anything beyond weapon attacks, which generally won't have buffs or debuffs or elements attached, so you're doing far less optimal damage for the sake of faster battle speed (#YOLO, basically) when the menu plodding is more beneficial outside of SP management there.

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Re: The Bore does what NeoGAF doesn't.
« Reply #24719 on: August 18, 2016, 09:17:33 PM »
That's one of the reasons I love SMT. Fights can be challenge instead of press x a few times to win.
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