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« Reply #23040 on: August 05, 2017, 02:27:50 PM »
why the fuck is everyone using their own nickname for evilore

'Lore? Evi? EL? just say evilore or tyler you dopes
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23041 on: August 05, 2017, 02:34:04 PM »
Apparently dude used his power to coerce women who want to get into the industry by asking for nudes, some he knew to be underaged.

Why this isn't being articulated and is being made under the pretense of safety makes no sense to me. Surely someone, such as the guy who made the original tweet can give some information. But apparently you're a bad person for wanting such information. I mean, the victims have my support, but the fact people are supposed to go along with it even without anything other than people dog piling him is....odd. But completely in line with authoritarian SSW behavior.

Like if someone is accused of rape, we know what that entails. But the stuff aimed at Robinson is pretty vague beyond "he's a creep" and the only thing we have to go on are tweets throwing him under the bus going,"HE DID IT." Did what? "Don't ask that, stop defending him!"
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23042 on: August 05, 2017, 02:40:41 PM »
When did wanting to wait for evidence become such a shitty thing to do? I get that harassment cases can hardly have any concrete proof but what's wrong with the stance itself? Not everybody is saying women are maniacal misandrists and I already forget his name is innocent, just that a witchhunt ain't exactly the best reaction from the jump.
More than that, what Robinson actually did (and to who) is completely vague. The scale and depth of this seems up to your imagination, you can make him out to be another Jimmy Savile if you want (though the fact some of the people saying they had heard stories remained friendly with him as recently of the goofy Krystal tweet sort of sets the bottom for it). My understanding may be outdated or incomplete at this point, but the conversation seems to be centered exclusively around people bringing up stories they heard from friends, without telling those stories, and those moving straight to making a talking point about it, like Walker (hypocritically?). There's pretty much no evidence of not only the "crime" itself, but what that crime even is exactly, which I find a little hard to accept without doubts. I want to say this isn't the first time people were told to "believe women!" (and condemn this person) without hearing any details whatsoever, it's kind of a concerning trend to then shame people who are questioning or confused by it. "Sliding into DMs" leaves a pretty exact paper trail and doesn't need to feature your identity after one min of mspaint, but failing that, just quote him or give a summary of those stories. The whole thing does seem concerning from the "internet mob" perspective.

They are arguing for safety. Okay. Why not release the stuff anonymously? Lots of question marks on this thing. The fact it was an open secret and people just let it slide doesn't really do much to make me feel any better about the games industry either.
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« Reply #23043 on: August 05, 2017, 02:59:53 PM »
The most convincing reason I've seen cited for the secrecy is because press is a tiny and incestuous industry. They can't afford to rock the boat unless they can be sure it's not going to blow up in their face or go nowhere because it starts and stops at "he said she said." The vague approach they've taken instead is obviously not ideal either.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23044 on: August 05, 2017, 03:16:23 PM »
Well, what they're doing gives zero credence or trust in the SSW press. Comparing it to Bill Cosby for instance, is laughable. Cosby had clear allegations aimed at him from day one. Dude raped women with cocktail drugs. Simple and enough for people to want to disassociate themselves from. Here, all we've got is he slid into chicks dm's. What he did in the dm's we aren't allowed to know but should trust them 100%. That's not how it works. You gain trust by giving evidence of at least allegations. But with this we're supposed to trust the accusations entirely and completely despite no idea what the allegations even are. But the SSWs want to be taken seriously.

Another point of contention is that if this will result in blowback against the press because Nick Robinson abused his power for favors, if this implicates others in the game press all that does is question why they are so gung bo about calling him out if they - reportedly - already knew and tolerated such behavior.

In the end, this just makes me trust the game press less. Is that their goal?

I don't see the GB crew going on about this. One more for Giant Bomb, one less for that fruitcake SSW Austin Walker.
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« Reply #23045 on: August 05, 2017, 03:27:47 PM »
this discussion is embarrassing. there's a story about a dude harassing women online and we've somewhere twisted the discussion into how awful social justice warriors are. bunch of fucking idiots on this board.
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« Reply #23046 on: August 05, 2017, 03:28:53 PM »
From the GAF thread, someone posted a screenshot of Nick "The Player" Robinson flirting/harassing. He does comes off as a creep to some degree in how he steers the conversation towards sex. Not anonymous.

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893855282245361665

Without screenshots, but apparently it gets more direct at some point:

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893861081315250176
https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893869982219735040

Also some background information (snapchat might be a good explanation why there was so little evidence?)

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893850710068125696

I hope I'm not misrepresenting her, but it seems she isn't coming forward as a "victim" and is mainly providing proof he "goes after" fans.

This is kind of boring tbh, but I ended up getting a little invested because how frustrating to read that GAF thread is.

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« Reply #23047 on: August 05, 2017, 03:35:42 PM »
I hope that isn't the extent of his 'creepiness' or a lot of guys are going to be getting internet hemmed up.

Seems like a overly thirsty guy trying desperately to get any nude action. He is an absolutely terrible flirt though.


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« Reply #23048 on: August 05, 2017, 03:36:57 PM »
I hope that isn't the extent of his 'creepiness' or a lot of guys are going to be getting internet hemmed up.

Seems like a thirsty guy trying desperately to get any nude action. He is an absolutely terrible flirt though.

There's a difference when he's constantly doing it to literally any chick that follows him and is using his "influence" to get in. Which is what it seems to be the case.
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« Reply #23049 on: August 05, 2017, 03:39:46 PM »
I hope that isn't the extent of his 'creepiness' or a lot of guys are going to be getting internet hemmed up.

Seems like a thirsty guy trying desperately to get any nude action. He is an absolutely terrible flirt though.

There's a difference when he's constantly doing it to literally any chick that follows him and is using his "influence" to get in. Which is what it seems to be the case.

True. That is fucking sad and utterly pathetic on his part. He should have been slapped down earlier though if this was an open secret between these game writers.

EDIT: Although this even more fucked up if they knew he was allegedly chatting to younger fans as well.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23050 on: August 05, 2017, 03:59:46 PM »
From the GAF thread, someone posted a screenshot of Nick "The Player" Robinson flirting/harassing. He does comes off as a creep to some degree in how he steers the conversation towards sex. Not anonymous.

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893855282245361665

Without screenshots, but apparently it gets more direct at some point:

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893861081315250176
https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893869982219735040

Also some background information (snapchat might be a good explanation why there was so little evidence?)

https://twitter.com/souIspear/status/893850710068125696

I hope I'm not misrepresenting her, but it seems she isn't coming forward as a "victim" and is mainly providing proof he "goes after" fans.

This is kind of boring tbh, but I ended up getting a little invested because how frustrating to read that GAF thread is.

That's pretty creepy. Is that it though? I mean, he's like a regular thirsty dude. I've seen and received worse. The only reason this is news is because the dude is known and works for Polygon. Is that really it? Also, in that convo in the first tweet she doesn't really seem to be telling him flat out no. In fact looks like she played along with it.

Either way, if the guy was asking for blowjobs that's pretty fucked up if it wasn't consensual and Polygon was right to suspend him. If it's true he did this to a girl who was underaged though? SMH.

Real talk though, that tweet was regular ass dude behavior. Why he didn't think to just go with Tinder, I don't know.
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« Reply #23051 on: August 05, 2017, 04:00:01 PM »
that looks like half the posts in the dating thread here
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« Reply #23052 on: August 05, 2017, 04:05:56 PM »
Im not keen on Gaf like outrage over these things, but i would hardly call that normal dude behavior either. Par on course for a gaming "journalist" though.

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« Reply #23053 on: August 05, 2017, 04:07:07 PM »
Now I'm in the same position as other permanently banned NeoGAF members, like Dennis and arrested pedophile Amir0x.

Who is a pedophile and who is Amir0x?  I don't know why you keep making accusations that there's a pedophile problem at NeoGAF?  I'm triggered.  Mods?  MODS?!
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23054 on: August 05, 2017, 04:07:54 PM »
Normal in the sense that it's common. It's mostly only from dudes who are thirsty and think with their dicks. Another thing is that he probably did this because it got him laid before. It probably worked before, so he probably kept doing it.
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« Reply #23055 on: August 05, 2017, 04:12:46 PM »
wait underaged? now that's whole different thing. but the real question: does he have a gaf account? (unlike banned pedophile/former moderator amirox and dennis)

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23056 on: August 05, 2017, 04:14:07 PM »
wait underaged? now that's whole different thing. but the real question: does he have a gaf account? (unlike banned pedophile/former moderator amirox and dennis)

all I heard about under aged is from that Reddit thread I linked last page. I have seen nothing to confirm it.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23057 on: August 05, 2017, 04:17:25 PM »
Normal in the sense that it's common. It's mostly only from dudes who are thirsty and think with their dicks. Another thing is that he probably did this because it got him laid before. It probably worked before, so he probably kept doing it.

Yeah but it's implied he did the same thing towards coworkers and workers below him, and kept doing so, which would make it sexual harassment. I assume when they say "influence and power" they mean their boss, and if he has fans them coming forward could lead to them getting doxxed. Hell, he wouldn't even need fans, GG dudes would just do it anyway and twist the narrative to them sleeping with him to get ahead.

So i can understand why a couple wouldn't come forward if it truly was an "open secret" at that point.

Well, the facts are all over the fucking place and I've never heard him doing this to co-workers until now. When they say influence and power I thought they meant people trying to get into the industry.

This is why this entire thing is fucked up beyond his actual behavior of course. We only have our imaginations to go on but we're supposed to be mad. Again, it doesn't work that way.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23058 on: August 05, 2017, 04:20:59 PM »
I'm pretty sure it was about him creeping on women in the industry from the start.

Oh, so it's women within the industry?
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« Reply #23059 on: August 05, 2017, 04:25:37 PM »
I'm pretty sure it was about him creeping on women in the industry from the start.

He took pot shots to the Undercooked game and a dev dropped the harassment claim. That it was needed that he shot on a game to people to (half assed it) speak up is also shitty. There no real martyrs here.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23060 on: August 05, 2017, 04:33:21 PM »
Okay so, if this was known why was it allowed?

And why are we supposed to take the game media seriously if this was known and allowed?

Why should we take up the SSW flag if this was known by SSW game journos and it took a game dev to reveal it for people to get on his ass?

Surely they can see they are complicit?

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« Reply #23061 on: August 05, 2017, 04:36:57 PM »
the real question: does he have a gaf account? (unlike banned pedophile/former moderator amirox and dennis)

https://babylonian.tumblr.com/post/70866537284/neogaf-ladies-and-gentlemen

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23062 on: August 05, 2017, 04:40:24 PM »
I only bring up the SSW flag because many of the game journos who are throwing him under the bus and are SSWs and if they knew about it, where's their sense of social justice? But their bread and butter is a type of game journalism that emphasizes identity politics. Hence the relevance.
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Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #23063 on: August 05, 2017, 04:45:59 PM »
All sorts of people kiss ass online and never walk the walk. Don't really care about that. Dude's been harassing girls, that's really the point I've been getting out of this.

Don't get it twisted. I don't like him harassing girls either. But you got to admit, this entire thing raises so many question marks.
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« Reply #23064 on: August 05, 2017, 04:53:48 PM »
All sorts of people kiss ass online and never walk the walk. Don't really care about that. Dude's been harassing girls, that's really the point I've been getting out of this.

Don't get it twisted. I don't like him harassing girls either. But you got to admit, this entire thing raises so many question marks.


Much like the investigation into Seth Rich.

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« Reply #23065 on: August 05, 2017, 04:59:29 PM »
that looks like half the posts in the dating thread here

Plot twist, he was asking for advice in the GAF dating thread

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« Reply #23066 on: August 05, 2017, 05:00:36 PM »
Taco, we need some more Vita talk here.
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« Reply #23067 on: August 05, 2017, 05:06:50 PM »
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« Reply #23068 on: August 05, 2017, 05:07:37 PM »
All sorts of people kiss ass online and never walk the walk. Don't really care about that. Dude's been harassing girls, that's really the point I've been getting out of this.

Don't get it twisted. I don't like him harassing girls either. But you got to admit, this entire thing raises so many question marks.
Same reasons it took so long for Roger Ailes, James Deen and many other abusers to get busted. People don't know they're not alone, they don't want to jeopardize their careers (particularly if the abuser has lots of power/friends in the field), don't have ironclad proof, or they simply don't want to paint a target on their heads (as seems to be the case with those coming forward on Twitter). People who've heard things but are not victims themselves feel it's not their place to start the conversation on account of the victims for the same reasons.

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« Reply #23069 on: August 05, 2017, 05:24:23 PM »
Austin was protecting shitty behavior too :(
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« Reply #23071 on: August 05, 2017, 05:33:15 PM »
Maybe they circle the wagons and cover others' behavior because they write about video games for a living and don't want any negative focus on their video game writing jobs from the big companies the pay them to write about video games.

They get paid actual money to write about the significance of Mario's hat.
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« Reply #23072 on: August 05, 2017, 05:33:35 PM »
Okay, so we now have definitive proof the guy is a crappy flirter. I don't know if that's enough to call him a pederass or a serial harasser. I know this is verboten and we're supposed to renounce a person at even the vaguest accusation of impropriety, but I'm still going to withhold personal judgement. Regardless, Polygon is handling it in the best possible way. A suspension following proof of shit behavior really is the best move all around.

I am deeply disturbed by how quick people with zero evidence was quick to call not only him, but all associates who didn't renounce him publicly quickly enough, everything from rapist to suggested pedophile. If it comes out this are real things he is, so be it. But the greater Twittersphere has no proof whatsover, but once the accusation was levied by a random nobody, that was all it took. That is frightening and full of immense abuse potential.

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« Reply #23073 on: August 05, 2017, 05:36:37 PM »
Mob justice never really changes no matter the medium. You're not extra special and more enlightened if you can do it in 140 characters and a gif.
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« Reply #23074 on: August 05, 2017, 05:38:26 PM »
BILL COSBY INNOCENT!!!!

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« Reply #23075 on: August 05, 2017, 05:39:04 PM »
Maybe they circle the wagons and cover others' behavior because they write about video games for a living and don't want any negative focus on their video game writing jobs from the big companies the pay them to write about video games.

They get paid actual money to write about the significance of Mario's hat.
Austin was protecting shitty behavior too :(

The actual "gaming press" industry as said before is pretty damn small, its a guarantee some of the ones shocked, appalled and acting holier than thou do the same shit and jumping in front to try and shield themselves. 

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« Reply #23076 on: August 05, 2017, 05:41:33 PM »
Right I don't doubt that either.

But what are they going to do when they lose their jobs?

Am I starting to sound like a gator?
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« Reply #23077 on: August 05, 2017, 05:43:26 PM »
it's about time we started talking about ethics in videogame journalism.

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« Reply #23078 on: August 05, 2017, 05:47:36 PM »
All sorts of people kiss ass online and never walk the walk. Don't really care about that. Dude's been harassing girls, that's really the point I've been getting out of this.

Don't get it twisted. I don't like him harassing girls either. But you got to admit, this entire thing raises so many question marks.
Same reasons it took so long for Roger Ailes, James Deen and many other abusers to get busted. People don't know they're not alone, they don't want to jeopardize their careers (particularly if the abuser has lots of power/friends in the field), don't have ironclad proof, or they simply don't want to paint a target on their heads (as seems to be the case with those coming forward on Twitter). People who've heard things but are not victims themselves feel it's not their place to start the conversation on account of the victims for the same reasons.

For some reason I find this hard to believe. Comparing his dude to CEO of a major media network? Was he that influential? Doubt it. Dude produced videos for polygon and was a giant bomb intern. What power did he have exactly?
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« Reply #23079 on: August 05, 2017, 06:00:02 PM »
For some reason I find this hard to believe. Comparing his dude to CEO of a major media network? Was he that influential? Doubt it. Dude produced videos for polygon and was a giant bomb intern. What power did he have exactly?

Power is relative. His industry is tiny and anyone with a decently sized follower base has influence. He did. In addition he was buddies with the McElroys who are the closest thing to celebrities in that industry. It's very easy to see how someone like that could leverage that.

You'd be surprised how much power a Youtube personality has over their followers.
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« Reply #23080 on: August 05, 2017, 06:03:35 PM »
Okay, so we now have definitive proof the guy is a crappy flirter. I don't know if that's enough to call him a pederass or a serial harasser. I know this is verboten and we're supposed to renounce a person at even the vaguest accusation of impropriety, but I'm still going to withhold personal judgement. Regardless, Polygon is handling it in the best possible way. A suspension following proof of shit behavior really is the best move all around.

I am deeply disturbed by how quick people with zero evidence was quick to call not only him, but all associates who didn't renounce him publicly quickly enough, everything from rapist to suggested pedophile. If it comes out this are real things he is, so be it. But the greater Twittersphere has no proof whatsover, but once the accusation was levied by a random nobody, that was all it took. That is frightening and full of immense abuse
potential.

Asking for evidence/what the allegations are? How dare you!
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« Reply #23081 on: August 05, 2017, 06:08:23 PM »
All sorts of people kiss ass online and never walk the walk. Don't really care about that. Dude's been harassing girls, that's really the point I've been getting out of this.

Don't get it twisted. I don't like him harassing girls either. But you got to admit, this entire thing raises so many question marks.
Same reasons it took so long for Roger Ailes, James Deen and many other abusers to get busted. People don't know they're not alone, they don't want to jeopardize their careers (particularly if the abuser has lots of power/friends in the field), don't have ironclad proof, or they simply don't want to paint a target on their heads (as seems to be the case with those coming forward on Twitter). People who've heard things but are not victims themselves feel it's not their place to start the conversation on account of the victims for the same reasons.

For some reason I find this hard to believe. Comparing his dude to CEO of a major media network? Was he that influential? Doubt it. Dude produced videos for polygon and was a giant bomb intern. What power did he have exactly?
It's just the first example that sprang to mind. It's less that he himself is powerful, it's that he's associated with some of the most visible and liked people (the McElroy's) and works for a successful outlet where he may or may not have friends in powerful places. My wider point stands, and I've repeated it often enough now. tL;dr Tiny incestuous industry, don't shit where you eat, etc.

edit: bah, beaten

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« Reply #23082 on: August 05, 2017, 06:11:09 PM »
For some reason I find this hard to believe. Comparing his dude to CEO of a major media network? Was he that influential? Doubt it. Dude produced videos for polygon and was a giant bomb intern. What power did he have exactly?

Power is relative. His industry is tiny and anyone with a decently sized follower base has influence. He did. In addition he was buddies with the McElroys who are the closest thing to celebrities in that industry. It's very easy to see how someone like that could leverage that.

You'd be surprised how much power a Youtube personality has over their followers.

Alright, sure. It's not that I doubt a YouTube personality has some power, I merely doubt the extent that is being portrayed. Because apparently he's been known for this, and surely he wasn't always a personality star. So how did he get away with it before acquiring this supposed power and influence? From what I've read, he's been known to do this from the jump.
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« Reply #23083 on: August 05, 2017, 06:17:00 PM »
Im probably cynical but most of the time people don't really give a fuck as long as you need to put your money where your morals are. Forget about some gaming journalists, even a Christian sect is famous with pedo stuff and instead of fixing it they simply hush it down a little. Physicians are filled with people who abuse drugs, etc...
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« Reply #23084 on: August 05, 2017, 06:20:40 PM »
Alright, sure. It's not that I doubt a YouTube personality has some power, I merely doubt the extent that is being portrayed. Because apparently he's been known for this, and surely he wasn't always a personality star. So how did he get away with it before acquiring this supposed power and influence? From what I've read, he's been known to do this from the jump.

I mean, who knows? He probably wasn't doing stuff like this before. Before he was an e-celeb he didn't have the guts to do stuff like this. But given a little bit of power and a following? It's easy to see how it could start.
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« Reply #23085 on: August 05, 2017, 06:21:03 PM »
Im probably cynical but most of the time people don't really give a fuck as long as you need to put your money where your morals are. Forget about some gaming journalists, even a Christian sect is famous with pedo stuff and instead of fixing it they simply hush it down a little.

Very true. Humans. Smh.

Alright, sure. It's not that I doubt a YouTube personality has some power, I merely doubt the extent that is being portrayed. Because apparently he's been known for this, and surely he wasn't always a personality star. So how did he get away with it before acquiring this supposed power and influence? From what I've read, he's been known to do this from the jump.

I mean, who knows? He probably wasn't doing stuff like this before. Before he was an e-celeb he didn't have the guts to do stuff like this. But given a little bit of power and a following? It's easy to see how it could start.

Definitely.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23086 on: August 05, 2017, 06:32:08 PM »
Okay, so we now have definitive proof the guy is a crappy flirter. I don't know if that's enough to call him a pederass or a serial harasser. I know this is verboten and we're supposed to renounce a person at even the vaguest accusation of impropriety, but I'm still going to withhold personal judgement. Regardless, Polygon is handling it in the best possible way. A suspension following proof of shit behavior really is the best move all around.

I am deeply disturbed by how quick people with zero evidence was quick to call not only him, but all associates who didn't renounce him publicly quickly enough, everything from rapist to suggested pedophile. If it comes out this are real things he is, so be it. But the greater Twittersphere has no proof whatsover, but once the accusation was levied by a random nobody, that was all it took. That is frightening and full of immense abuse potential.

Actually it's about mysoginy in the gamer community

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23087 on: August 05, 2017, 06:36:35 PM »
I would not be at all surprised if this guy's creepy behavior was known and kept on the "down-low" among other journos. Too often people claiming to be the most virtuous person actually have a ton of skeletons in their closet. And the gaming press love to love to toot their own horn, so I have little doubt there's ton of hidden baggage there.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23088 on: August 05, 2017, 06:45:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure it was about him creeping on women in the industry from the start.

He took pot shots to the Undercooked game and a dev dropped the harassment claim. That it was needed that he shot on a game to people to (half assed it) speak up is also shitty. There no real martyrs here.

I dunno, dude. Enough people coming out against it including his buddies and some girls who say he did pull stunts on them says different. Neither of those two matter but I'd say the dude harassing girls is probably the worst out of them.

Well yes, he is the worst. Just saying there is no martyrs when people are saying that are protecting themselves by being vague and waiting to the dude get called out before calling him out or people that covered this behavior before act like bastions of change and progress.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23089 on: August 05, 2017, 07:41:40 PM »
BILL COSBY INNOCENT!!!!

Some bootleg TV Land was running a Cosby Show marathon today.  :holeup

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23090 on: August 05, 2017, 07:59:05 PM »
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what IS sexual harassment to some of you people lmao

EviLore in that Nick Robinson thread be like

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23091 on: August 05, 2017, 08:02:52 PM »
All this rumor and this justification of rumor via unverifiable hidden power structures or that more accusations make it true is why evidence/proof matters.

You can make it seem very convincing when it ends up being a lie. Emma Sulkowitz still gets referred to as a victim when her claim had no merit in court or after any scrutiny of the claim. A lie given legs can be powerful. At the same time, Cosby got away with some dark shit just due to power.

My personal bias is one that leads me to believe that a Polygon writer could be a creep due to all the virtue signaling that place does. It also shows me that such a crowd is a ripe target for mob behavior to attack the guy. Ultimately, I don't like being asked to believe in hearsay rather than being shown something wrong.


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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23092 on: August 05, 2017, 08:13:40 PM »
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ITT people seem to think you walk up to a woman and say "Want to suck my dick?" and it be okay.
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Seeing posters come out in this thread and show their asses is one of the reasons I just chuckle when people say "Just play with GAFfers online and you will be fine".
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What union would accept someone being fired because they, privately, asked a girl to send nudes... He must be bought out from Polygon then if he wants to stay..?

Maybe unions work differently regarding this in the US though.
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This isn't about criminal charges. This isn't about pitchforks. This is about a person behaving in a way that seriously violates the trust of the gaming community

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My go to test for what I'd consider sexual harassment against women is how I'd feel if such behavior was committed against my wife or daughter.
wow, how about a test NeoGAF.com users can use buddy

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23093 on: August 05, 2017, 08:16:44 PM »
wow, how about a test NeoGAF.com users can use buddy

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My go to test for what I'd consider sexual harassment against women is how I'd feel if such behavior was committed against my anime body pillow.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23094 on: August 05, 2017, 08:30:13 PM »
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Coates is so damn articulate.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245487594&postcount=44
 :comeon :beli :what






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I will say I don't like this line from Coates
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And we need not wait to note that more interesting than asking what the world would be like if the white South had won is asking why so many white people are enthralled with a world where the dreams of Harriet Tubman were destroyed by the ambitions of Robert E. Lee.

The view that white people have been dreaming of getting to watch a show about modern slavery as masturbation fodder is stupid when said on GAF and Coates even dipping his toe into that idea is disappointing.  Imagine a world where you can't read Lolita because you will be called a pedo.  Or if reading Huck Finn labels you a advocate of the n-word and all the other examples one could list.
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23095 on: August 05, 2017, 08:31:07 PM »
Don't know too much about the Nick Robinson stuff but he does give off the Lore vibes looking at his profile pic.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23096 on: August 05, 2017, 08:54:30 PM »
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Being mentally ill or on drugs doesn't wash away the racism, y'all.

Having a mental health/drug breakdown doesn't cause non-racists to start spouting racist shit.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=245492557#post245492557

Just one of many posts expressing the same thing.


But actually . . .


A man with two adult children who suffer from schizophrenia
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POWERS: I first want to say, Terry, that Kevin was not a typically stressed-out kid before this hit him. I think that the stress came as he started to deal with the realization that his mind was changing. Kevin - one of the saddest things I can remember about him - saying about him describing his turmoils inside his head was that he was having racist thoughts. But at the same time, as he was having these thoughts, he was appalled at having racist thoughts.

It was like he was watching his mind as it began to deteriorate. So the stress he talked about in that email came about from what he perceived as a loss of friendship with his fellow musician. And I think he was probably hallucinating or exaggerating the loss of friendship. This would be paranoia. And from that point, the symptoms deepened into other things.
http://nprillinois.org/post/father-2-sons-schizophrenia-talks-his-struggle-save-them#stream/0
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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23097 on: August 05, 2017, 09:21:26 PM »
Anyone that posts shit like this
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This is about a person behaving in a way that seriously violates the trust of the gaming community
should be jettisoned into the sun.

If Nick Robinson was a sleazy asshole and abusive to people on Twitter, that is grounds to fire him. If he did something illegal, he should be charged. But stop with this pearl clutching "he hurt the ENTIRE community" horseshit. Jump into a volcano you stupid fucks, you're not the victim here.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23098 on: August 05, 2017, 09:36:17 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245497179&postcount=270

I'm surprised at how surprised I am that some people are this simple-minded.

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Re: 🚨 Other Forum Megathread of...WTF OPPO DROPPO?! 🚨
« Reply #23099 on: August 05, 2017, 09:38:52 PM »
One employee out of 72,000 is a racist, so now the whole company is racist and alt-right and support Nazi propaganda. It all checks out. I mean, all one has to do is see how they're covering up the Seth Rich scandal.