VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[clothedmacuser]

One black millionaire criticizes another black millionaire for not voting therefore he's a coon.

That tapdancing uncle tom cant crush anyone.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223853241&postcount=5960

 

[benjipwns]

did Amir0x die?

He got banned right before the election. 

He's still going on twitter

https://twitter.com/Amir0x

White Americans are just not yet ready to accept that they arent the most important thing in the world. We will teach them. #ElectionNight

"We"

 

in the responses:

Amir0x ‏@Amir0x  2h2 hours ago
@enriquegp Teach them that they are a dying majority, and that eventually they will have to face the music.  We will force them to.

[benjipwns]

Evilore appears to be like the rest of PoliGAF, a single issue voter:

It's reassuring to know that the official position of the United States on climate change will now involve a sudden and violent implosion of the silly, outmoded basis it had in science and evidence and real life, and instead we'll be moving on up with the bold new plan to call climate change a dumb hoax, pretend that the people attempting to convince us are all lying, and then proceed from there to burn as much black shit coming out of the ground as we possibly can as fast as we can before oil is no longer worth such an impressive amount of money, for reasons. But wait, why stop there, when we can also give up on any pretense of ethical responsibility or any indicator of legitimate governance whatsoever, and how about we become walking billboards of embarrassment that no longer deserve any of the clean air we still breath by going all-out and just repealing every regulation on pollution, shit, actually, any acknowledgement that pollution ever existed in the first place. That'd be so edgy, right? I mean, real or otherwise, no one has time to dick around with lofty sentiments about personal responsibility or environmental consequences, so how about decide that consequences, all consequences for our actions, no longer exist? Climate change is a hoax, and human beings don't generate pollution. Problems solved.

While our rich old white men play a dangerous game of pretend in-between cashing oil lobby checks, though, China is rapidly transitioning to clean energy solutions and will likely drop right back down below the US in overall emissions with ease, despite China's huge disadvantage in population size and the USA's several decade head-start on infrastructure and all of its considerable wealth and prosperity and its status as world technology leader and other totally inconsequential random trivia.

Regardless of what we decide to accept about the climate change crisis or not, we still find ourselves knee-deep in it on the world stage, since, it turns out, we just took on a leadership role that established confidence and good faith as every country in the world came together in an unprecedented global summit to avert the crisis under a common goal, everyone noting particularly how the fate of billions of lives, many entire species, all of nature's considerable beauty from corner to corner, all of it as we know it and as every generation of humanity leading up to the present also knew it is all in jeopardy. Right. Now. It's a matter of how much we can curb the tide, now, not whether we can avoid damage that has already locked itself into the upcoming timeline.

So, obviously, in response to the unavoidable reality of the crisis the whole world has just mobilized to face together, and as a responsibility to humanity by facing it as best we can, and after just having demonstrated our own willingness and intent and leadership in this worldwide coalition on climate change, and despite all the legally binding commitments we made as part of that entire process, we've now pledged to back out of the agreement, intend to illegally disavow those binding commitments right after having made them, fired the scientists telling us inconvenient truths about climate change, and replaced those annoying, ball-busting little pricks who keep trying to tell us what is and isn't real as if they own the place, with far more impressive and manly. big, tall, supremely confident and and heroically powerful, brilliant and uniformly perfect oil company executives straight from heaven on wings of radiant light to help us set policy on all the many nuances of just how awesome oil really is. Isn't oil great? Climate change is a hoax. Oil is life. Let's go set ablaze some beautiful, live-giving, pollution-free and climate chage-free fossil fuels, everyone! A politician's duty is to base scientific assertions not on preponderance of evidence and carefully established worldwide scientific consensus, but on off-the-cuff dishonest conspiracy theory diversion tactics made in reprehensible displays of self-serving convenience and corruption.So I've heard, at least.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure all of this means I'm now one of the bad guys and that people are going to be rooting for America to somehow self-destruct and die off so that we don't callously destroy the Earth in a spectacularly depressing celebration of willful ignorance, while the authoritarian, speech-suppressed, civil liberties bereft, humanitarian and ecological disaster called China are the new good guys.

Awesome. Thanks. Nothing beats waking up to realize we've been stripped overnight of our national identity as a respected, level-headed leader and role model on the world stage, now struggling to cope with our new career as as a formless, pulsating mass of concentrated, hysterically cackling cartoon evil. I feel so tremendously privileged to be here as we explore the vast depths of hopelessness and despair within this newly chosen dystopian hellscape. Hash tag fucking blessed.

As easy as it may feel to hate on Floridians for going red while it trends from Sunshine State toward Underwater State on the climate crisis front, keep in mind that the Florida EPA is banned from even saying the words "climate change" or "global warming" and cannot acknowledge its existence...ever. The state government is clamped down to the point of insanity on a message desperately promoting distortion of the facts so that politicians in office can continue acting against the best interests of Florida residents. Florida politicians are bought and paid for wholesale by entrenched dirty energy interests like the utility industry, who spend many millions of dollars every year ensuring that options like residential solar investment by homeowners remain totally impossible to get off the ground, even as Florida itself is perfectly suited for solar, just so that they can retain an unfair monopoly on power generation. ,We're talking unabashedly corrupt laws remaining on he books, like generating your own electricity being illegal. Floridians can't go clean energy even with have cash in-hand and a willingness to do so individually.

Situation there is a little more complex on this front than it may initially seem. Don't be too quick to revel in the prospects of widespread disaster engulfing the region, heh.

[benjipwns]

I almost bumped my Trump 2016 thread last night when he went over the top, quoting all the people on the first page either saying he wouldn't run or hoping he'd run.

But then I noticed, I originally made the thread on January 20, 2015.

It'll be way better to bump it, exactly two years to the date, on inauguration day.

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i can be so mean

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[benjipwns]

They don't even discuss policy. They jerk off to Clinton and dem insiders.

They were turning on this one insider...Cesear something, because he had previously said all the things they wanted to hear...

[FStop7]

did Amir0x die?

He got banned right before the election. 

He's still going on twitter

https://twitter.com/Amir0x

White Americans are just not yet ready to accept that they arent the most important thing in the world. We will teach them. #ElectionNight

"We"

 

Dude's wearing a skinsuit made from some random black victim as he writes that stuff, isn't he?  Full on Silence of the Lambs.

[benjipwns]

I'm so angry right now. I'm stuck at the anger stage in Kubler-Ross. I haven't been this angry at racist white people since I read The Autobiography of Malcolm X in sixth grade and toyed with the idea of converting to Islam.

The argument for a separate nation for people of color has never been stronger.

[benjipwns]

They want the entire country to accept their prejudices so badly. They feel as if they were the ones being persecuted and discriminated against in the first place. Mother fuckers don't even know what that feels like and never will.

[james]

I just remembered Y2Kev dropped (I think) a few thousand on Hillary.

 Oh god

I lost $300.

Fortunately most of it was money I made betting on Trump in the primaries

Edit: Unless youre talking donations.

If so, LOL. They wasted that money on Chuck Schumer ads.

I love how people couldnt stop talking about Trump conning the base and taking them for a ride...

And Hillary robber liberals blind and got zero result. Zero.

[VomKriege]

They don't even discuss policy. They jerk off to Clinton and dem insiders.

They were turning on this one insider...Cesear something, because he had previously said all the things they wanted to hear...

That's the dude who said that was some surprise bombshell already prepped to drop on Trump right before the election, which coined the horrible "oppo" meme on PoliGAF ?

[james]

That's the dude who said that was some surprise bombshell already prepped to drop on Trump right before the election, which coined the horrible "oppo" meme on PoliGAF ?

This is the darkest timeline.

So I wouldnt be surprised if Hillary and her team of incompetents did have earth shaking oppo but decided to hold it in case Trump decided to not concede the election.

[benjipwns]

I just remembered Y2Kev dropped (I think) a few thousand on Hillary.

 Oh god

Unless youre talking donations.

If so, LOL. They wasted that money on Chuck Schumer ads.

multiple GAFfers hit the donation limit to Hillary (for both the primary and general), they were trying to figure out what Senate races to donate to since they couldn't give anymore to Hillary

though they could have given to The Party up to $50,000

[headwalk]

our national identity as a respected, level-headed leader and role model on the world stage

 

[benjipwns]

I'm down to just split the debt down the middle and blue states form the Commonwealth of the Unites States and the red states stay the United States of America.

I can't be asked to always pick up the pieces that these guys will inevitably shatter because they are incapable of helping themselves.

i know it may sound crazy, but what are the actual down sides to this? we are already divided as fuck, we might even get along bettee if we are separated.

I know you're kidding, but the gap between socioeconomic beliefs between red and blue America are just going to keep getting wider and wider

We can already see with that California letter that some blue states are planning on just locking themselves into their castles and waiting out the storm, pretending to continue on as normal while the world falls apart outside their borders.

It's starting to reach the breaking point. Big cities aren't going to tolerate not having fair representation in government for much longer.

I called it!

[james]

I just remembered Y2Kev dropped (I think) a few thousand on Hillary.

 Oh god

Unless youre talking donations.

If so, LOL. They wasted that money on Chuck Schumer ads.

multiple GAFfers hit the donation limit to Hillary (for both the primary and general), they were trying to figure out what Senate races to donate to since they couldn't give anymore to Hillary

though they could have given to The Party up to $50,000

Hassan won by 700 votes. The Schumer money could have made it 800.

[benjipwns]

As a note, if I hear a white evangelical complain about a Starbucks cup or a store greeting this year, or otherwise complains of a "War on Christmas," I'm not sure I can be held responsible for my response.

[zepblackstar]

Sanders setting himself up for 2020, not a table at the netroots convention to sign photos.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223868817&postcount=17210

People are bailing out now because they don't want to get doxxed.

Not to downplay the viciousness of the Internet but... really ?

[Boredfrom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223868817&postcount=17210

People are bailing out now because they don't want to get doxxed.

Not to downplay the viciousness of the Internet but... really ?

He is the same idiot that admited being a state lobbyist in the video game side. I remember him linking a article he made.

[benjipwns]

they already posted so much personal stuff "doxxing" would be trivial, hell, we even know all their sexual fetishes because of that one period until the mods finally cracked down

[VomKriege]

benjipwns chinese agitprop shill ?
 

[Let's Cyber]

Can someone explain the benefits of compulsory voting for me?  It seems like it's only being brought up on GAF now because the youth voter turnout was low, and that would have swung Clinton. Basically they only want it because it could theoretically be a net gain to their candidate.

I guess I'm not understanding the overall benefit to forcing those politically ignorant to pick a choice, and that includes state elections. With the way money has infiltrated the US political process, it would (mostly) be about who raises the most money to get their name out there...which is pretty much how it is now anyway.  It'd also be a boon for other "celebrities" who decide to run in the future, like Trump, that already have the name recognition.

[Boredfrom]

Does this confirm that many in PoliGaf were political shills? Or is just ItWasMeantToBe19 being a paranoid idiot?

[benjipwns]

Can someone explain the benefits of compulsory voting for me?  It seems like it's only being brought up on GAF now because the youth voter turnout was low, and that would have swung Clinton. Basically they only want it because it could theoretically be a net gain to their candidate.

That's basically about it. They think it would benefit Democrats.

It's the same reason they oppose Citizens United despite how much money it helped pour into Obama, Hillary and the DNC's coffers that they spent a year plus bragging about the fundraising gap over Trump/RNC.

[VomKriege]

Can someone explain the benefits of compulsory voting for me?  It seems like it's only being brought up on GAF now because the youth voter turnout was low, and that would have swung Clinton. Basically they only want it because it could theoretically be a net gain to their candidate.

I guess I'm not understanding the overall benefit to forcing those politically ignorant to pick a choice, and that includes state elections. With the way money has infiltrated the US political process, it would (mostly) about who raises the most money to get their name out there (which is kind of how it is now anyway).  It'd also be a boon for other "celebrities" who decide to run in the future, like Trump, that already have the name recognition.

In a secret ballot you can't force people to pick a choice, though I'm not familiar with the computer stations you have in some places in the US, you can always give a blank or invalid ballot (on paper at least bis). So nobody is forced to pick, really.

Main advantage is ensuring the largest turnout, which gives more legitimacy to a majority vote. It nullifies by definition voter suppression (It's mindboggling to me that it is so openly discussed about in the US as a strategy) and the need to interpret abstention numbers. May also help keep the voters engaged with their one core duty as citizens though it is debatable : IIRC Belgium had (has ?) it but as far as I could tell they were as apathetic as French voters. Probably not helped by the ridiculously layered levels of office they have.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Can someone explain the benefits of compulsory voting for me?  It seems like it's only being brought up on GAF now because the youth voter turnout was low, and that would have swung Clinton. Basically they only want it because it could theoretically be a net gain to their candidate.

That's basically about it. They think it would benefit Democrats.

It's the same reason they oppose Citizens United despite how much money it helped pour into Obama, Hillary and the DNC's coffers that they spent a year plus bragging about the fundraising gap over Trump/RNC.

See: Sanctuary Cities

[VomKriege]

OK so now Poligaf is worried that Shillaries will be doxxed, Anthony Weiner or Huma Abedin will kill themselves, setting up clandestine networks to exfiltrate Muslims out of the US and is freaking out about Bernie Sanders again.

[Phoenix Dark]

They don't even discuss policy. They jerk off to Clinton and dem insiders.

They were turning on this one insider...Cesear something, because he had previously said all the things they wanted to hear...

It's laughable. I don't even understand why insiders want to hang around that forum, on the gaming side or OT.

[Let's Cyber]

Hillary and Obama: "We need to do our best and work with Trump moving forward"

*nods*

Sanders: "We need to do our best and work with Trump moving forward"

OH WOW THERE'S BERNIE IGNORING MINORITIES AGAIN.  GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU SELFISH ASSHOLE

Watching pigeon and friends show their true colors has been enlightening.  It is all about The Party with these people.

[benjipwns]

So what the hell is our strategy going forward? Trying to court people that want a majority of the Dems' coalition dead or deported?

I agree, there's no point, elections are a sham, everybody should just commit suicide.

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-Kara

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[benjipwns]

This is precisely why the Sanders statement is complete bullshit. It's like he didn't even look at the results before commenting.

well i never

[benjipwns]

Barely slept, barely ate anything today, called sick to work, but finally got myself up and went to the gym to run

I am feeling FURIOUS right now. Having some vicious and hateful thoughts towards those who oppress and who have enabled oppression, but I know these aren't productive without doing something to help marginalized people.

Thinking about the GOP platform from this year makes me seethe. Old fucking men who need to die off are set to revoke so many of the rights and progress that we've made under Obama.

Just so mad right now.

[benjipwns]

I don't think this is a given any more. We're seeing the collapse of global order. With climate change this is going to get worse.

So, this is terrifying, and actually one thing that scares me is the mass wave of immigration that's coming when the land people live on begins to flood.

this is what poligaf actually believes

[Let's Cyber]

It nullifies by definition voter suppression (It's mindboggling to me that it is so openly discussed about in the US as a strategy) and the need to interpret abstention numbers.

Yeah, this is one thing I didn't consider.

There are probably other ways to curb those kind of tactics beyond mandatory voting though.  But yeah, thanks for the answers. I found it strange how quickly a bunch of posters jumped on the compulsory voting train.

[FStop7]

Hillary and Obama: "We need to do our best and work with Trump moving forward"

*nods*

Sanders: "We need to do our best and work with Trump moving forward"

OH WOW THERE'S BERNIE IGNORING MINORITIES AGAIN.  GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU SELFISH ASSHOLE

Watching pigeon and friends show their true colors has been enlightening.  It is all about The Party with these people.

That period of introspection didn't last much beyond 12 hours.  Now it's back to attack everyone who doesn't march in lockstep with whatever distorted worldview they're still clinging to.  It really seemed like things had reached a point where there would be some changes, earlier today.

[benjipwns]

One thing that is just so impressive that is the rural whites still voted for Trump even though he showed no empathy whatsoever towards the fact that their children were addicted to heroin.

I mean, they sold out their children's humanity (and maybe their own! Lots of rural white adults are addicted to heroin) just to vote for the moron. Just so impressive.

This country was never meant for people like us. This election is what makes me realize that fully in 2016.

Obama can order that [Trump] release [his tax returns].

I doubt he will though.

GAF's political experts! The President can order private citizens to release their tax returns to the media!

[benjipwns]

It's fun reading GAF's thread this year after I bathed in conservative tears in 2012.

In 2012, Republicans were like "fuck Obama is going to have total dictatorial power (other than the House), we need to fight him even harder AND TURN OUT IN 2014!! GET RID OF THE RINOS! EXPOSE HIS SCANDALS BENGHAZI HEARINGS! also we need to prepare for Hillary in 2016!"

In 2016, Democrats are basically like "the US is completely racist, there's no hope, we need a new Liberian movement, fuck Bernie Sanders and third parties for this, Hillary deserved it, I don't want to ever discuss politics again, fuck America, fuck anyone who says we'll survive, the world is literally going to end in the next couple years due to climate change, that's if we aren't already dead in the rape and internment camps for gays and minorities"

[benjipwns]

oh shit lindsey graham hero worship now? i don't know even if i can stand that

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of course i can

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[benjipwns]

The Electoral College could remember that part of their role is to stop stupid majorities from fucking themselves over. But they won't.

oh now we love the electoral college and faithless electors

[VomKriege]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation. In that respect the paranoia is a tad more justified than Obama or even W.Bush (which approved some horrible policies) declaring themselves God dictator king of the US.

[Vertigo]

Crossing Eden ladies and gentleman

I'm sure you and many of us have noticed the sudden shift in the last 24 hours, with many members of this website not only telling POC, LBGT, and women that we should tolerate and be accepting of the right, but pretending that not doing so means that we just wanna stick to an echochamber, are trying to take the moral high ground, are just as bad as the the alt right, and a whole bunch of other logic that anyone with even a semblance of logical  thought would see is absolutely ridiculous. The crux of the matter is this:

Why are you targeting this criticism towards minorities, lbgt, and women, why do you feel the need to tell them that they are the issue, not the xenophobia, sexism, and racism? That's it's all just a difference of political opinion, when all three are inherently moral issues that have nothing to do with politics whatsoever since they existed before modern politics. You really can't see how ridiculous that sounds? Who are you to tell people who you can't very clearly can't actually empathize with, how they should feel and act? You're honestly telling people that they should welcome backwards and outdated principles treat the people who'd give them no time of day whatsoever and would rather sling a racial slur, defend a rape, tell them they shouldn't exist or that there's something wrong with them, or kick them out of the country with productive discussion when news:WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR LITERALLY DECADES!!
.

The influx of moderates telling us to tolerate sexism, xenophobia, and racism all day

Talk about deflecting. How are these knuckleheads still not getting it?

[Rusty Shackleford]

I think right now it's only illegal immigrants (removal of DACA) and poor folks (gutting of welfare & ACA) that should have definite fear.

We can only hope that the same folks that voted Trump into office will also make clear to their Congress reps that they shouldn't give him carte blanche. But who knows how much of his rhetoric was pandering and how much was legit threats? We just don't know yet.

[Boredfrom]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation. In that respect the paranoia is a tad more justified than Obama or even W.Bush (which approved some horrible policies) declaring themselves God dictator king of the US.

Is more justified, but GAF tends to fall in Trump esque hyperbole or anticonstitutional wishes when acting they are above that.

Poli shills had no problem with doxxing some weeks ago.

[benjipwns]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation. In that respect the paranoia is a tad more justified than Obama or even W.Bush (which approved some horrible policies) declaring themselves God dictator king of the US.

One thing that tempers that is all the people who were ready to bail on Trump over stuff like the pussy tape are still in the Senate, and with the Democrats, they make up a majority.

I can't imagine that the guy they've been fighting with for two years they're going to roll over for like GAF and others seem to think. There's still value in opposing Trump, even in the GOP. It's just not as easy as it was or was looking like it'd be. You have to pick your battles.

And more importantly it's dumb to lose faith in our institutions so easily. The Republicans have controlled the Supreme Court since 1970, at times even 6-3 plus. It struck down laws against abortion, sodomy, gay marriage, all kinds of press/media/obscentity stuff, etc. Roberts had five votes, but he didn't strike down Obamacare when he could have easily done so. It's not perfect, it's favored the state/police certainly, and it's drawn boundaries where it shouldn't (both for and against progressive/liberal ideas) but it's arguably been the best branch by far, especially when you include lower federal courts. But part of that is most people don't realize that most rulings aren't 5-4 constantly. Even some of the more contentious ones. So it gives a warped view especially if people only look at the vote count, and not who and how and why they voted to rule the way they did.

[Let's Cyber]

There's also a lot of people making fun of videos of crying Clinton supporters. It's absolutely ridiculous

If the shoe was on the other foot, PoliGAF would be rolling around like pigs in shit in the pics and videos of crying Trump supporters.

[benjipwns]

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little known fact, his son is still standing there staring like that

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[benjipwns]

I just keep getting seized by fits of rage imagining how things will go with my classmates. They're the most politically disengaged guys I've ever met, a bunch of lean Rs and "both sides" bullshit. There's all of 2 minorities in the class, and that's counting me, so call it 1.5. 2 women. I'm the person there who's politically vocal, so I just know they're going to try a "oh man sorry your candidate lost" stuff, and then I just have to ask them how they voted and... if they voted Trump or didn't vote, I have no idea what I'm going to do. I just get so fucking ANGRY even imagining it.

Obama's first words post-election are: we're all the same people, there are no republicans and democrats, respect the institutions and rule of law.

This is the liberal hero. Trumpism ain't that bad guys chill out.

You're right, the president should foment unrest to undermine the results of a democratic election

When the results are a fascist insurgency you're fucking 100% right we should undermine the results and subvert every institution that created this. If your immediate reaction to this is respect U.S. institutions you're lost as hell.

[etiolate]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation. In that respect the paranoia is a tad more justified than Obama or even W.Bush (which approved some horrible policies) declaring themselves God dictator king of the US.

Is more justified, but GAF tends to fall in Trump esque hyperbole or anticonstitutional wishes when acting they are above that.

Poli shills had no problem with doxxing some weeks ago.

Opinions on doxxing attracts all sorts of double standards. Not just a GAF problem.


Also, THIS THREAD. omg. I think outside links to GAF to mock GAF is the only way that site gets traffic at this point.

[VomKriege]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation.

 Of course. (If you're even talking to me)

 I was directing it to Sander's message just acknowledging how he edged the vote and said he would help make sure xenophobic, racist etc. policies wouldn't come to fruition.

I was responding to benjipwns, to be clear. GAFfers (and leftists) are prone to imagine the absolute worst at the moment, as it is now customary for the losing side at each election. While it may be the same reflex as every recent past election, I'll cut some slack on this because Trump himself is not business as usual and advocated stuff that shouldn't even be on the table and given how he has swayed the GOP it's not yet clear if the Legislative branch will not go along with a couple of those.

And more importantly it's dumb to lose faith in our institutions so easily.

Yeah, I agree with that. I believe and hope the US institutions are robust enough to not fall apart at the first mandate of a doofus.

[Boredfrom]

To be fair, Trump has said some outright cray cray shit in the campaign, like war crimes and unconstitutional methods. Maybe he's all talk and won't follow on any of that but it's not unreasonable to be a bit freaked out at potential legislation. In that respect the paranoia is a tad more justified than Obama or even W.Bush (which approved some horrible policies) declaring themselves God dictator king of the US.

One thing that tempers that is all the people who were ready to bail on Trump over stuff like the pussy tape are still in the Senate, and with the Democrats, they make up a majority.

I can't imagine that the guy they've been fighting with for two years they're going to roll over for like GAF and others seem to think. There's still value in opposing Trump, even in the GOP. It's just not as easy as it was or was looking like it'd be. You have to pick your battles.

And more importantly it's dumb to lose faith in our institutions so easily. The Republicans have controlled the Supreme Court since 1970, at times even 6-3 plus. It struck down laws against abortion, sodomy, gay marriage, all kinds of press/media/obscentity stuff, etc. Roberts had five votes, but he didn't strike down Obamacare when he could have easily done so. It's not perfect, it's favored the state/police certainly, and it's drawn boundaries where it shouldn't (both for and against progressive/liberal ideas) but it's arguably been the best branch by far, especially when you include lower federal courts. But part of that is most people don't realize that most rulings aren't 5-4 constantly. Even some of the more contentious ones. So it gives a warped view especially if people only look at the vote count, and not who and how and why they voted to rule the way they did.

The problem is that GAF is the place where a user will tell you that being republican is evil with a straight face. "Pick your battles" is a alien concept to most gaffers as a "us vs them" mentality is encouraded in, well, anything even outside politics.

[benjipwns]

The electoral college is not democracy, this system is going to take away voting rights from black people, kick out immigrants looking for a better life, prevent abortion, etc. you guys all know the long list because liberals kept talking about how bad a right wing power structure would be for the country.

Now that it's here you guys want to say respect the process. Hopefully young people don't heed Obama's words of being nice to their oppressors and the dem party starts wising up.

You are basically crazy if you're calling for a coup or secession to avoid fascism.

Do you not think fascism is bad?

On the other hand, what if this is the last thing democrats agree to do to protect constitutional norms in the foolish hope that Republicans will follow suit?

[Boredfrom]

On the other hand, what if this is the last thing democrats agree to do to protect constitutional norms in the foolish hope that Republicans will follow suit?

Being fair, some people are already kind of suggesting this in the Poli thread here.

[benjipwns]

oh god i didn't realize the guy calling for a violent revolution led by obama was angry fork because of avatar change

I'm actually personally inclined to believe Trump is more moderate than he portrayed himself and is a conman rather than an ideologue.

But what he represents, what Pence is, and most of the right wing politicians in the house/senate, is a very serious and real form of fascism/american taliban shit. Trump may not want to go as far as they want him to if you believe him to be a closet moderate but I don't see how he would be able to say no.

[VomKriege]

"Planning an overthrow of the new US government. No doxxing pls."

[Let's Cyber]

It happened after John Boehner stepped down too but it's funny to see these democrat posters wax nostalgic over Bush's reign or Romney's campaign.  I honestly think a lot of these people just really enjoy the drama and personalities of politics.  They secretly respect players on both sides of the fence as long as they play by the rules and don't disparage the political system.   

[Rusty Shackleford]

I usually play games a couple years after release and I'm always surprised at the number of banned folks in old LTTP threads. I feel like this election is only going to accelerate the purge and worsen GAF's reputation.

[Boredfrom]

I usually play games a couple years after release and I'm always surprised at the number of banned folks in old LTTP threads. I feel like this election is only going to accelerate the purge and worsen GAF's reputation.

Is already rock bottom, losing the election actually made things better for a few hours.

[Stro]

I think right now it's only illegal immigrants (removal of DACA) and poor folks (gutting of welfare & ACA) that should have definite fear.

We can only hope that the same folks that voted Trump into office will also make clear to their Congress reps that they shouldn't give him carte blanche. But who knows how much of his rhetoric was pandering and how much was legit threats? We just don't know yet.

LGBT people should have fear, as they're about to get all of the rights they've been afforded over the past 8-12 years stripped away form them if Pence has his way. Which I'm sure he'll be as much the president as Cheney was. This is a dude who still believes in electroshock therapy for gay people. Who made gay marriage in Indiana illegal after it was made level on state and federal levels and had to be overturned by the Supreme Court for being unconstitutional. A man who shut down the DMV's vanity plate system because there was going to be a rainbow plate. Because he couldn't just cut out one group, so he shut out everyone because gays are bad.

He's the only Republican governor I've ever had in my life where even Republican rednecks thinks he's a piece of shit on social issues.

[Averon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223878960&postcount=138

No lies detected here.

 Now, I'm not saying you need to put up with some of racism and sexism from people who voted Trump, but labeling them all racists and sexists does nothing and is a losing strategy. You don't need to put up with their bullshit to understand the need to address the economic distress in the Rust Belt.

[benjipwns]

I'm not asking anyone to coddle them.

Yes you are. You're asking to not call them homophobes for supporting a homophobe. That is coddling.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER HOW TOLERANT TRUMP VOTERS WERE

they voted for a candidate that is not, they voted for an administration that is going to strip rights away from citizens, discriminate against citizens and fuck up climate change for everyone

I don't care if a Trump voter never called me a taco, they voted for one of the most hateful platforms against gay people I've ever lived through and I'm not going to give them slack for that.


Because of their actions they're going to make my life immeasurably worse

In this thread we have white moderates blaming minorities for Trump's rise because minorities don't like being disenfranchised.

You people are sick.

we have to show unity and let racist people call us distinguished black fellow and chink and towelhead while we just sit back and take it to show how "civilised" we are, if we retaliate in any way we instantly "prove" any stereotypes they may have held about us

Thats all the civil rights movement was. Look to the past to get the answers for the future.

Yeah the good old past where you could preach nonviolent protest, get imprisoned, almost blackmailed by the FBI and assassinated on your balcony

Thats all the civil rights movement was. Look to the past to get the answers for the future.

MLK got shot for espousing his beliefs, are we to follow in his example?

but why are we even letting them vote then?