VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[archie4208]

What's wrong with this? They're right. You honestly come off badly here as Trump is promising to dismantle the EPA. But Gj making fun of some gaffer I guess.

The survival of the very planet did not hang in the balance on the outcome of this election. Actually dismantling the EPA (something I find to be unlikely but accepting the premise) will not immediately end life on the planet.

The United States is not the significant factor in the global climate or even in environmental pollution anymore. Despite doing barely anything we've dropped in carbon emissions and general pollution drastically over the last 25 years. 75-80% in many cases, 90%! in some. We met a whole bunch of standards we never accepted by default, whereas countries that had signed on still haven't.

It's cost effective for U.S. businesses and the energy industry as a whole, it's why this has happened despite not only a lack of new significant efforts but a rollback of existing regulations during that same period. Emissions from the energy industry dropped something like 15% last year despite no significant regulatory changes compared to even the prior two years.

The elections in China will prove much more important on this factor than Hillary or Trump replacing Obama's barely expansive environmental agenda. (Not entirely his fault, the House has been GOP for coming up on six years now and last two have had a GOP Senate.) None of the three could actually heal the planet and "slow the rise of the oceans" and its silly to think otherwise. They aren't gods.

People thinking a four or eight year setback in only U.S. policy will actually end the stability of the planet and kill billions within our lifetime are ignoring the scientific consensus which explicitly says otherwise.

A bit of a tangent: I read an article a few days ago basically saying that clean energy is gaining so much momentum that it will continue to grow in spite of any potential setbacks by an administration. 

[Averon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311573

Let's see how long this lasts.

[benjipwns]

I've never seen someone banned for having an opinion they could justify, rationalise or provide evidence for.

People aren't banned for sensible rational posts.

I've been on this forum a long, long time. All opinions are respected as long as they are delivered with respect to and based on the context of the discussion.

People with "dissenting" opinions on here usually get banned because they aren't being in the least bit subtle in their agenda.

The only people I've seen banned on GAF for their opinions, had truly terrible, undefendable opinions even in "the real world".

[Cerveza mas fina]

I got banned for comparing no black people in witcher 3 to no white people in the wu tang clan

this was too racist

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311573

Let's see how long this lasts.

Are you white by any chance OP?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Even if it mattered, the dude is called ishan and his avatar seems to be one of those terrible personal photos of a man who on the face of it, has a slightly brown skin. Not a certainty but you know...

[close]

EDIT :

I'm brown indian visa student doing a phd in Pennsylvania and thank god Center country somehow went blue one of the 3 blue blocks in pa.

I'm an upper caste Hindu in India tho (not religious agnostic just family wise) so I guess I'm a white male by Indian standards .. So I think I can see both aspects and why I feel some opinions overstrech

[benjipwns]

I think that's a picture of his slave as he's beating him.

[Momo]

I believe this is a real issue if we don't want to become an echo chamber .

 

[daemon]

Here you go, one less boogeyman.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?s=9ad6188cb6c68905d7b4227d6169754e&p=223884909&postcount=390

Already got unbanned (got banned again, I guess that was bishoptl abusing mod powers to reinstate his membership). Poster telling the truth gets banned instead.


NeoGAF just lost the flipcoin toss and they're going through a very hard phase because of it.

[Trent Dole]

I got banned for comparing no black people in witcher 3 to no white people in the wu tang clan

this was too racist

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311582

best thread yet and i'm not saying that because of my epic post

[daemon]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223919307&postcount=14

No words.

Maybe if people taking hormones (?) in their puberty didn't get told every day about "literally hitler trump", they wouldn't have done something so drastic upon his election. Something something nothing changed in a day and commiting suicide for no real reason related to Trump or his election, but more about the fearmongering about his character.

So "leftists and media, YOU OWN THIS!!!!1111one"

[Cindi Mayweather]

Let's keep facts straight. You said that in response to minorities in games in general. Not just Witcher 3. The thread was about minority representation in games via the game of Stardew Valley. Your posts were abrasive and lacking in understanding and you defended a lack of minorities in games by using your Wu Tang Clan example.

That is why you were banned.

[Trent Dole]

NeoGAF is a flaming shit pile anyway, being permad from there is a badge of honor.

[Cindi Mayweather]

What's wrong with this? They're right. You honestly come off badly here as Trump is promising to dismantle the EPA. But Gj making fun of some gaffer I guess.

The survival of the very planet did not hang in the balance on the outcome of this election. Actually dismantling the EPA (something I find to be unlikely but accepting the premise) will not immediately end life on the planet.

The United States is not the significant factor in the global climate or even in environmental pollution anymore. Despite doing barely anything we've dropped in carbon emissions and general pollution drastically over the last 25 years. 75-80% in many cases, 90%! in some. We met a whole bunch of standards we never accepted by default, whereas countries that had signed on still haven't.

It's cost effective for U.S. businesses and the energy industry as a whole, it's why this has happened despite not only a lack of new significant efforts but a rollback of existing regulations during that same period. Emissions from the energy industry dropped something like 15% last year despite no significant regulatory changes compared to even the prior two years.

The elections in China will prove much more important on this factor than Hillary or Trump replacing Obama's barely expansive environmental agenda. (Not entirely his fault, the House has been GOP for coming up on six years now and last two have had a GOP Senate.) None of the three could actually heal the planet and "slow the rise of the oceans" and its silly to think otherwise. They aren't gods.

People thinking a four or eight year setback in only U.S. policy will actually end the stability of the planet and kill billions within our lifetime are ignoring the scientific consensus which explicitly says otherwise.

Great post. One thing I disagree with is that this could potentially fuck the climate deal. You are concentrating too much on the US and not the world at large. There were initiatives for cooperation to limit carbon emissions world wide through that deal, and with a Trunp presidency there is no guarantee it will be honored. When Trump strips the EPA, important countries like China and India may very well consider it not important to continue the deal because America certainly isn't. That's what I'm worried about. I think not worrying about it and making fun of someone anxious about it because "US isn't a large contributor in carbon emissions" is incredibly myopic and selfish but then again I am talking to a libertarian so I dunno.

[Cerveza mas fina]

So being against shoehorning things into media = lack of understanding

This type of condensending rhetoric is exactly why you will have 4/8 years of Trump, even people that are "on your side" are being condemned

[Cindi Mayweather]

Shoehorned into media. Hahahaha

[VomKriege]

Y2Kev doing his autocritique :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223931820&postcount=18208

Lesson learned for next time ?

[benjipwns]

making fun of someone anxious about it

I mean, look, I agree with you to an extent. But I've tried to be careful here and all the posts I quoted aren't anxious about it. They're hysterical and all of them from different people. "the worlds last shot for stopping climate change. It's too late." "Billions of people will now die." "survival of the entire world" "waves of immigration as the land begins to flood" "the collapse of global order" "We won't survive the climate change Trump's going to do nothing to stop" "we will officially pass the point of no return" "this is the descent for the planet" "goodbye to snow" "100s of millions of people will die from climate change if Trump is elected president" "we're going to make the planet uninhabitable for future generations"

This isn't climate deals might get scuttled and China/India will cheat even more than they do now. Stuff like that and all your critique is rational. This is "Hillary says she has a magic wand to save us" and now we're doomed because she can't use it even though it didn't exist. Even Evilore's extended post is in near doomsday territory.

And I'm not saying don't worry about it, I'm saying it's not a global catastrophe literally around the corner. It's at least half a century out, maybe more. There's plenty of time to do things, to experiment and test, especially with the improvements that are already occurring basically on their own, four years of the GOP back in the Presidency won't end all chance of ever doing anything or necessarily even halt our progress and definitively kill us. (In this manner, with climate change and flooding, I speak not to any others. My lawyers say I cannot be held accountable for the other ways we will be killed by the Trump Administration.)

[Cindi Mayweather]

Ok, those quotes are silly and trite. Lol  our last chance lol OK I'm with you on that, but that one particular quote I saw seemed fairly reasonable

[Cindi Mayweather]

So being against shoehorning things into media = lack of understanding

This type of condensending rhetoric is exactly why you will have 4/8 years of Trump, even people that are "on your side" are being condemned

Condescending rhetoric? You said one thing. I corrected you. I was not condescending. I just merely stated the facts of the situation. You were not banned because you compared Witcher 3 with no white people in Wu tang. Your post was lacking context of the situation.im not sure how anything in that post could be construed as condescending.

[Rufus]

This type of condensending rhetoric is exactly why you will have 4/8 years of Trump, even people that are "on your side" are being condemned

Don't wear it out just yet.

[benjipwns]

Ok, those quotes are silly and trite. Lol  our last chance lol OK I'm with you on that, but that one particular quote I saw seemed fairly reasonable

The full post is even better actually:

Mhmm. Treating minorities like shit is something we've endured in the past, but this was the worlds last shot for stopping climate change. It's too late.

[Cindi Mayweather]

That person is a moron. 

[mormapope]

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223934496&postcount=243

I think this is probably the most reasonable time to use violence on someone just because they voted for someone else.

Who does this guy think he is? Amir0x?

[benjipwns]

Kintari playing with fire again: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936578&postcount=541

This goes beyond that, a lot of people are trying to denormalize what they feel is prejudice and hateful language towards people who are white - I'm pretty sure I got banned for that. But holy shit - look at OT right now. People are so conformable saying disgusting stuff about white people that we literally have a thread about them being beat up and people are like 'Terrible... But I get it.' or 'If ever there was a time it was okay'. In this thread alone people are justifying language that you would -never- be allowed to use against any other ethnicity. I think mods are starting to ban this stuff a bit more, but holy shit is the sentiment that it's okay very widespread.

[benjipwns]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

[thisismyusername]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

[Kara]

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/10/clinton-fracking-theworld/

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this. GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge. We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'. A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy. Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle. GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

[fistfulofmetal]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

[james]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

People vote for hope and change

[benjipwns]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

[thisismyusername]

things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

Someone on reddit said it better than me, but paraphrasing it: You have to worry about the economy and peoples living-with-money/cost-of-living (whatever you want to call it, not sure of the actual term for it) before worrying about social issues. People will not care about systematic racism and "black lives matter" UNTIL they feel they are able to live without having to scratch at jobs like chickens finding food.

I live in a blue-county among a sea of red. I live on the outskirts of a college town. I can see BOTH sides of this and can understand why Trump got as far as he did. All you have to do is leave your town and go toward these places (notable would be Flint with it's water issues and general downtrodden "life" given auto industry left Detroit area mostly) to see why Clinton and social-progressive-politics weren't hitting there. People going "they're all racist" is missing the point. People can not care about "black lives matter"-ing until "their" lives matter.

Obama ran on "Hope and Change" which resonated with folks after the Bush years and the economy tanking in the tail-end of that. While he was semi-successful, it wasn't enough for most folks.

[daemon]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

[Momo]

I'm not the master of US politics by any means, but it always seemed likely to me that a lot of Bernie people would hop over the Trump camp. Like it appeared that the main driving force for them was CHANGE and when they couldn't get change + a decent platform they'd just fuck off to Trump and cast a vote for system collapse.

Even without me putting this evil on Bernie supporters, it seems very clear from your elections that most people wanted a change (like 2/5ths of the democratic voters and a majority chunk of repubs)

[Stro]

God, I'm still so angry

This was my first presidential election. Hillary Clinton was my President, like she was all of yours. She was someone I genuinely wanted, agreed with and felt represented by on a level that I didn't quite feel with Obama.

She had worked so hard for 30 years, dealing with everything the world could throw at her and keeping her head high.

She was going to be the first woman president.

And the fucking FBI—the institution meant to protect us—knocks her down just enough to stop her and give it to him.

I'm privileged to say it, I know, but this is the first time I've ever hated my country.

Don't look like she's anyone's president 

[zomgee]

I see neogaf moderation hasnt learned anything from this and is just doubling down on making their echo chamber the echoiest (yes i made that up).

There are echoey subthreads

[FunSlower]

I'm not the master of US politics by any means, but it always seemed likely to me that a lot of Bernie people would hop over the Trump camp. Like it appeared that the main driving force for them was CHANGE and when they couldn't get change + a decent platform they'd just fuck off to Trump and cast a vote for system collapse.

Even without me putting this evil on Bernie supporters, it seems very clear from your elections that most people wanted a change (like 2/5ths of the democratic voters and a majority chunk of repubs)

There's a significant amount of Trump folks who are anti-establishment, same as Bernie. It's not that far fetched to think some Bernie supporters wanted Trump.

[Boredfrom]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

[Kara]

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

This data shows that people in Mexico are committing crimes, which can be said of every country on Earth, not that people immigrating from Mexico to the United States are some spectacular kind of human detritus (as if survivors of an Gorta Mór or funny-hat-wearing English theocrats were H-1B Visa candidates)

[benjipwns]

I'm more concerned with when there's friction, Trump won't go "I'll veto everything". He'll make a bid to assume complete power. That's my worry, and I know there's checks and balances against it, but he's defied all odds so far.

[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

[daemon]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

He didn't say that every Mexican was an illegal immigrant, the quote was on context of illegal immigration and the wall. I stand corrected on the correlation of facts from the previous poster. Yes, I did correlate facts that don't have a defined causality. They can be raped anywhere from their origin of departure until reaching the USA.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Thank God we don't have any standards for basic human decency here.

[MMaRsu]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Exactly. God forbid you say something negative about GAF and how the mod team is constantly fucking up. They dont want any dissenting opinions. Fuck GAF and its mod team. Bunch of losers in their own little special bubble ( #notallgafusers )

[MMaRsu]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

Actually I think he was banned for this instead:

    Originally Posted by SuperAngelo64

    I still post here because I like the discussion on the gaming side. Do I still believe in gamergate? Absolutely I'm one of them. Don't like it, newbie? Tough shit.

[railGUN]

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

 

[Momo]

I hope people just go 'bye bitch' and fuck off, now is the time if ever

[Boredfrom]

I think that a lot of people, especially in Democratic circles, were only getting one half of Trump's message because of willful media choices. It was very easy to get the impression that all he was doing was going around attacking minorities and mocking the disabled and saying things about women. Or LOCK HER UP. But he was also constantly talking about jobs, jobs, jobs, and other kinds of "hope and change" bullshit around all those statements. But if you don't watch the whole speech you don't see that.

You got the same thing with Clinton too, her talking about jobs or this policy or that, that's not on the news much unless its somebody like Vox gushing about it. But if she says Trump supporters are deplorable, that is. If she falls down some steps, same thing.

for the longest time I've heard "mexicans as rapists", and never caring to getting to the full quote:

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

Speaking in the context of illegal immigration

which is sustained from the data gathered:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html


BUT THE "MEXICAN" RAPIST RACIST TRUMP ATTACK ON LATINOS!

Still not true, thought. Not every Mexican that goes to USA is illegal, and there is a real problem here of mexican scientific talent going anywhere but Mexico http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/periodismo-de-datos/2015/07/7/fuga-de-cerebros-crece-en-mexico-alertan

He didn't say that every Mexican was an illegal immigrant, the quote was on context of illegal immigration and the wall. I stand corrected on the correlation of facts from the previous poster. Yes, I did correlate facts that don't have a defined causality. They can be raped anywhere from their origin of departure until reaching the USA.

The thing is that people that go the US legally is generally "the best".

Mexican goverment doesnt encourage illegal inmigration, there is constant campaigns showing how dangerous is to cross to the US. We understand why the US wants to have better control in the border, but building a wall just encourages xenophobia and we dont have the money to pay for it as Trump wants.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223956111&postcount=501

 

[james]

If everyone goes out the door, who is left to view the ads?

[VomKriege]

PoliGAF really has a problem with the whole "peaceful transfer of power" thing, do they ?

Trump is going to make it so easy to campaign against him.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223957038&postcount=18578

Love the confidence.
If Trump doesn't burn the whole house down until then, I expect the 2020 campaign to be madness to be honest. Between his access to media as President, to full RNC backing and to much, much more money this time round, I envision Trump face plastered all around the country 24/7.

[Averon]

No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.

"Remember that one time when NeoGAF community became self-aware of their echo chamber and questionable mod behavior?"

Whelp, that brief moment of clarity didn't last long.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311813

[railGUN]

Ivanka will be the first female President of the United States of Trumpmerica.

 

Also, EviLore is just grumpy he spent $7,500 on Hillary / DNC.

[Dennis]

benji, why were you banned?

[benjipwns]

whoever likes RPGCrazied I found him again: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223961151&postcount=55

Democracy and free speech is dead. I'm legit scared.

in response to this:

Trump flew from New York to Washington on his private jet without that "pool" of reporters, photographers and television cameras that have traveled with presidents and presidents-elect.

[benjipwns]

Okay, here's my fucking hot election take for all y'all:

Hillary Clinton was an excellent candidate who ran a strong campaign.

She faced a Russian intelligence operation unlike anything we've ever seen, unprecedented in the level of interference in the American election we allowed, that spent a year exposing literally all of her personal and professional information, with the complicit aid of ostensible left-wingers who gladly lent their plausible deniability to a smear campaign.

She faced an explicit effort by the FBI to destroy her by mainstreaming nationalist white-wing (this was a typo but I'm keeping it) smears and making them the basis of meaningless but lengthy formal investigations, including what I would consider a deliberate violation of the Hatch Act (not necessarily by Comey, but by others in the FBI who Comey was trying unsuccessfully to control).

She faced five years of an elaborate Republican smear campaign designed to create scandals out of nowhere, building meaningless choices and real tragedies into stories that took over the media.

She faced a media desperately eager to normalize white nationalism so as to avoid admitting America's original sin, who literally hired people from her opponent's campaign to talk on television because their normal paid shills wouldn't do the job, who seized like a dying man on any scrap of negative news for her to try to preserve the dollars they receive from racists.

And she still won the popular vote and got within 1% in three states of winning the presidency.

I'd like to see your white socialist do that.

I am unconvinced that any other candidate could have won in the face of that much deliberate aggression from multiple different state apparatuses and from the ostensibly neutral arbiters of the race.

Hillary didn't fail. America failed her.

[benjipwns]

benji, why were you banned?

Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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i had to login i didn't know i was banned because i had logged out

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