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Dennis

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« Reply #3840 on: November 10, 2016, 12:46:42 PM »
benji, why were you banned?
Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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i had to login i didn't know i was banned because i had logged out :lol
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Logged out of your benji account huh?

That is not suspicious at all.....

benjipwns

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« Reply #3841 on: November 10, 2016, 12:48:18 PM »
kame starts the best stuff, and leaves Liu Kang Baking A Pie to do all the heavy lifting of keeping it going

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959198&postcount=539
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It's telling to me that all the responses to kame's post are going back to the one example of violence in the OP rather than the thousands of examples daily against minorities. It will always be about finger pointing but never doing work ourselves and handling the responsibilities.

What happened in the OP is shitty, but I think a lot of you are still in the bubble you said you would leave after Tuesday shocked you.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959210&postcount=541
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Totally agree.100 fucking %. The fucking double standard on display, the obvious bias, the moderate attitude on display in this thread is fucked. We have a thread with a growing number of violent hate crimes against POC while this incident stays at the top?

I agree. Protect yourself. I'm standing with you, fighting with you for your equal rights. Not words but my body. Nobody deserves to take this kind of treatment sitting down. White Americans doesn't want to be inconvenienced. Well, too bad.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959405&postcount=544
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Violence is not the answer.

At the same time, Trump voters would not have hesitated to use violence, even before they won.

So no, violence is not the answer, but let's not pretend Trump voters should be immune from the consequences of their decisions.

Honestly, white Trump supporters made a gesture that says "Fuck everyone who isn't me". These are the people who tell minorities to "deal with it."

As a white person, I say: Deal with it, white people. You opened this can of shit, now eat it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959498&postcount=545
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People love telling minorities how to respond to racism in this country.

You can do it, but you must do it in a way that doesn't inconvenience me or effect others like me.

If you really cared, you would know that this is a direct result of the evil Trump allowed to flourish under his campaign. The ones who will suffer from his presidency are lashing out. If you didn't want this, you shouldn't have voted for Trump or third party or Harambe.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223959999&postcount=556
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I love how this thread stays on the first page but the thread about the MULTIPLE attacks and intimidation on minorities is buried.
We all know why though. We all know why.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960149&postcount=558
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Threads like this usually get shut down. I'm a little confused as to why this one is seemingly ok.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960404&postcount=561
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So it's cool to assault people that don't vote like you do?
It's not unreasonable for people to lash out in anger towards people who treat them as a lesser form of life.

Beating people up is bad, killing people or wishing for their deaths is also not fantastic, but you have to be completely lacking in empathy to react like this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223960617&postcount=566
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This blows. Not to endorse violence, but at least we know there's a decent chance he was racist.

In order to feel empathy, some people need to experience pain themselves... Maybe.
I know, it's not okay, but part of me wants it to happen.

Actual ban was for making these same exact kind of posts but facetiously. :lol

VomKriege

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« Reply #3842 on: November 10, 2016, 12:50:17 PM »
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It was based on all the polls saying it was a lock, so we were focusing money on places the polls suggested were more competitive.
It's not Clinton's fault that all the polls were wrong. Yes with hindsight we can see that we need to fix polls

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223961223&postcount=18650

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but based on available data, the existing strategy was working.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223958805&postcount=18603

Who could have predicted that over reliance on polls and data could be bad ?

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Anyone with a passing familiarity of the subject or social sciences, I guess ?
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zomgee

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« Reply #3843 on: November 10, 2016, 12:55:26 PM »
Ivanka will be the first female President of the United States of Trumpmerica.

 :-*

Also, EviLore is just grumpy he spent $7,500 on Hillary / DNC.

Our first First Lady we've seen nekkid?
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thisismyusername

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« Reply #3844 on: November 10, 2016, 12:57:23 PM »
benji, why were you banned?
Not voting.

Either that or talking about the hype I'm hearing for Terry McAuliffe in 2020. Which just proves how much it's growing if GAF is trying to keep it under control after the last time they appeared as a top five referrer to a Democratic Presidential nominee.

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Logged out of your benji account huh?

That is not suspicious at all.....

But logged into his Dennis account. :ohhh

benjipwns

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« Reply #3845 on: November 10, 2016, 01:00:52 PM »
But logged into his Dennis account. :ohhh
Lime. :hitler

Kara

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« Reply #3846 on: November 10, 2016, 01:01:51 PM »
Once again the tyrant Steve Youngblood strikes dear, sweet benji down.

benjipwns

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« Reply #3847 on: November 10, 2016, 01:02:58 PM »
first he strikes down Hillary, now another with "tremendous hatred in their heart"

this message paid for by benji for vp 2020

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« Reply #3848 on: November 10, 2016, 01:06:41 PM »
And I'm not saying don't worry about it, I'm saying it's not a global catastrophe literally around the corner. It's at least half a century out, maybe more. There's plenty of time to do things, to experiment and test, especially with the improvements that are already occurring basically on their own, four years of the GOP back in the Presidency won't end all chance of ever doing anything or necessarily even halt our progress and definitively kill us.
Regarding the chicken littles, assuming this was their first election (and for a lot of them it was) I think a lot of these posters probably didn't have the best understanding of climate change to begin with so it comes as a shock.  The concept has penetrated pop culture in a way that everyone is aware of the term but I doubt a lot of them really understood the consequences.  When one first starts digging into it, it is very scary sounding and even apocalyptic depending upon the article one reads.

The truth is, climate change is probably not going to significantly affect the day to day lives of gen xers or even millennials, at least not in the US.  The warnings have been to not kick the can down the road again because actions now will have a direct impact on the future.  We didn't want future generations dealing with the worst case scenarios which ARE dire. But that's just for humans.  For those who gives a shit about environmental conservation and biodiversity, they know an apocalypse has been and still is occurring :doge

Bernie was the main candidate during the primaries talking about the environment in ANY capacity. While Trump isn't gonna do the environment any favors, Hilary's approach would've been timid at best.
I can't remember which primary debate it was (maybe the first one) but the moderator asked Hillary about climate change and her first response was about chasing down Chinese officials during the Copenhagen Summit and demanding access to secret meetings.  She basically pulled the "yeah but what about China?" card right out of the gate. 

 :gurl

She would have been better than an outright denier of course but we knew where her loyalties were at after all the dodging on Keystone XL. I was never hopeful she would be an outspoken advocate on environmental issues. 

Huff

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« Reply #3849 on: November 10, 2016, 01:09:30 PM »
Just don't breed and you don't have to worry about climate control

Problem solved
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Rman

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« Reply #3850 on: November 10, 2016, 01:15:09 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-
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No, there does not. NeoGAF moderation will continue to set standards for basic human decency in discussion here. You're not being held hostage and welcome to use the door at any time if that's not acceptable to you.
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EL has such a thin skin, man.

benjipwns

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« Reply #3851 on: November 10, 2016, 01:16:38 PM »
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The purpose of this post is to explain why your family members are not white nationalists just because they voted for Donald Trump.

This is important to you, because you love them and don't want to believe that they are morally culpable for, and even in favor of, the violence against people of color that will ensue; and because, ultimately, if you knew they were white nationalists and did nothing, and still maintain friendly contact with them, you are complicit as well.

I decline to provide you this indulgence.

Your family members are white nationalists. That's what they voted for. That's who they are. That's what they are responsible for. They are morally culpable for the consequences of their choice.

If you refuse to accept this and to engage with it, then you are complicit as well.

That's the way things are.

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« Reply #3852 on: November 10, 2016, 01:22:47 PM »
No John, you are the white nationalists.
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daemon

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« Reply #3854 on: November 10, 2016, 01:26:40 PM »
did you really get banned benji? There's no saving GAF, it's in self-destruct mode.

benjipwns

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« Reply #3855 on: November 10, 2016, 01:28:54 PM »
i should have been banned long ago and more often but somebody likes me :heart

benjipwns

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« Reply #3856 on: November 10, 2016, 01:29:31 PM »
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If you couldn't be bothered to show up and stop Cheeto Hitler, who you supposedly hate, then you are no better than the people who supported him. Not standing against him is a tacit endorsement, it means you were fine with either choice. A lot of blame falls on Clinton's campaign and the Dems, but I will not let the people that stayed home off the goddamned hook. At the end of the day this is on them.
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Is it worth turning to private companies to fund PP? Apple/Valve/EA etc? I'm debating randomly emailing Gabe Newell and going "This organisation needs to be saved, help it!" But I also feel a bit dumb, maybe?

railGUN

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« Reply #3857 on: November 10, 2016, 01:29:48 PM »
I mean I expected some pretty serious meltdowns if Trump won, and I have to be honest, I may have willed him into power, but jesus christ, place is pure insanity right now.

The biggest disappointment of Hillary not winning, for me, is that we don't get to see EviLore's avatar tribute change to him cosplaying her in a pantsuit.  :'(
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« Reply #3858 on: November 10, 2016, 01:30:47 PM »
The biggest disappointment to Hillary not winning, for me, is that we don't get to see EviLore's avatar tribute change to him cosplaying her in a pantsuit.  :'(

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« Reply #3859 on: November 10, 2016, 01:38:08 PM »
These GAFers really need to chill out and be


Kara

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« Reply #3860 on: November 10, 2016, 01:42:45 PM »
Lore is going to rake it in two years from now when we're knee deep in der Kulturkampf 3 (Tag line: "Ein, zwei, lie?!?").

It's like y'all weren't even on the internet during George II's reign.

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« Reply #3861 on: November 10, 2016, 01:44:28 PM »
amirox is banned?

benjipwns

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« Reply #3862 on: November 10, 2016, 01:48:00 PM »
now they're analyzing body language in a photo of obama and trump shaking hands, you'll never guess what they see

benjipwns

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« Reply #3863 on: November 10, 2016, 01:49:24 PM »
amirox is banned?
he was banned weeks before the election, stalling Hillary's campaign and leaving it lost at sea without a captain

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #3864 on: November 10, 2016, 01:54:34 PM »
things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.
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« Reply #3865 on: November 10, 2016, 01:55:33 PM »
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There are no checks and balances left...

Like what the fuck is he even talking about the GOP hates muslims as much as Trump does...

And they control it all.

Clinton was the check and balance.
This sounds an awful lot like hero worship to me  :doge

Acting like Hillary was Anakin Skywalker and shit  :heh

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benjipwns

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« Reply #3866 on: November 10, 2016, 01:57:03 PM »
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Has Sanders ever once admitted this was an election about white nationalism...?

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« Reply #3867 on: November 10, 2016, 01:58:19 PM »
now they're analyzing body language in a photo of obama and trump shaking hands, you'll never guess what they see

I mean you can draw a lot of information from simply body language. It's a pretty common thing to do.
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« Reply #3868 on: November 10, 2016, 02:08:48 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223972902&postcount=1039

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I've cut anyone who voted for him out of my life.

I don't need the cancer they provide with their ignorance.

I don't need their ignorance. I will get rid of people who don't think like me.  :doge

thisismyusername

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« Reply #3869 on: November 10, 2016, 02:18:13 PM »
things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.

:heart I still respect you, hun. Even if you went down the rabbit hole and lost some respect from me ("FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE"). I'm glad you're understanding that just because some of us don't necessarily agree with the method or means of BLM, doesn't make us racist or not knowing the plight.

Like I said: I'm all for black betterment, I just don't think screaming "WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" and when whites try to discuss what they can do or try to learn, blacks scoffing and going "OH YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! ::) "  is productive. Consequently, that same community doesn't understand why poor whites are turning to drugs, having suicides spike, seeing the towns they grew up in dying. Because "fuck them crackers, they're getting what they deserve for racism" and half of that community went to school with and had no issues with blacks.

As much as I hate to say it, it's a "shades of grey" issue and both sides are not better than the other. Like I said when you guys were talking down me: When you're screaming "RACIST" at folks that don't agree like the BCT on GAF does, you're no better than the folks you're decrying.

Hopefully in the next four years, everyone will reconcile. Black, White, Latino, Middle-Eastern, Asian. Everyone. And together we all go "you know our economy is fucked and people are going into debt trying to survive [get a college degree to get better work because that's what society and the nation is jamming down their throats], let's fix this and get everyone a better life." And hopefully in the next four years the police-state doesn't get worse (but I'm not hopeful on that, as sad as it is to say).

It sucks, but this has to be a wake-up call to "the Establishment" that when you have someone like Trump and Bernie garnering support (even if it isn't minority support, granted) you have to look at why they're getting that support.

Cindi Mayweather

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« Reply #3870 on: November 10, 2016, 02:34:12 PM »
things are really not going well on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1311633

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223936008&postcount=34

Nailed it.

The last 24 hours have been rough for me and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the fuck happened. Reading stuff like that is helping a lot with my perspective, which I admit was very narrow. I put social issues at the forefront, thinking that would tip the scales. I was wrong and it fucked my shit up pretty bad.

I won't forgive the hardcore republicans who side with Trump just because they're republicans. That's garbage. But I get why a person who is struggling to get by in a dying city who can't find work because their company shipped the jobs overseas can feel like the last 16 years of Repub and Dem politics have fucked them over something fierce. They look at Trump and see someone trying to bring the system down. It's the same hope and change rhetoric that got Obama elected. It's weird to say that but I think it's true.

I agree. It was a blind spot for me too. I've never really been to the rust belt. I've been to the country plenty of times - I'm from Texas so of course - but it's hard for me to reconcile it because that way of life is so foreign to me. I don't know anyone in the country and all the people I know from the country don't live in the country because there's better opportunities in the city. I have lived in a bubble and didn't recognize that the fact people have to move to cities is partly part of the problem. You shouldn't have to have your way of life die out because of the absence of the very political policy that promises to assist all of us. It's a hard pill to swallow...but I get it now. David Wong was right. Thisismyusername was right too. Dems and Republicans fucked up. When you see someone like Trump willing to topple over both establishments and your way of life is crumbling and you can't find a fucking job, you're gonna want to cry out for help. I know that for all my criticisms of Hillary and even Obama, I've been willing to look away because they will help *me* but I've unfortunately lived life without the self awareness that people may have legitimate grievance. More than anything, we need someone to help out rural and middle America and not on empty promises and not in a manner that affects the environment in a negative way (i.e. bringing back coal).

I've said on here and on gaf that white people are racist, but it's ultimately an amalgamation of my fear, of my hurt, of my pain. It could have been potentially harmful and destructive and I just didn't give a shit. When people like Kinitari were banned, I certainly didn't want that. So I agree neogaf is a bad place for discussion. Banning people just for disagreeing is not a good modus operandi and I'm seeing it in many progressive and liberal enclaves. On a subreddit I go to, anyone who disagrees with the status quo of the subreddit has their post deleted or they are banned. To be fair, that subreddit is also conveniently always raided by white supremacists. It's a simple subreddit for black women and they constantly try to fuck with us. The result? Banning anyone who disagrees. Legitimate grievance has turned into an environment where the only acceptable people are ones we agree with.

I'm really glad I took my gaf break now.

PS: FFIX's vanilla battle system is still dog shit and FFVIII is still a better game.

:heart I still respect you, hun. Even if you went down the rabbit hole and lost some respect from me ("FUCK ALL WHITE PEOPLE"). I'm glad you're understanding that just because some of us don't necessarily agree with the method or means of BLM, doesn't make us racist or not knowing the plight.

Like I said: I'm all for black betterment, I just don't think screaming "WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST" and when whites try to discuss what they can do or try to learn, blacks scoffing and going "OH YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND! ::) "  is productive. Consequently, that same community doesn't understand why poor whites are turning to drugs, having suicides spike, seeing the towns they grew up in dying. Because "fuck them crackers, they're getting what they deserve for racism" and half of that community went to school with and had no issues with blacks.

As much as I hate to say it, it's a "shades of grey" issue and both sides are not better than the other. Like I said when you guys were talking down me: When you're screaming "RACIST" at folks that don't agree like the BCT on GAF does, you're no better than the folks you're decrying.

Hopefully in the next four years, everyone will reconcile. Black, White, Latino, Middle-Eastern, Asian. Everyone. And together we all go "you know our economy is fucked and people are going into debt trying to survive [get a college degree to get better work because that's what society and the nation is jamming down their throats], let's fix this and get everyone a better life." And hopefully in the next four years the police-state doesn't get worse (but I'm not hopeful on that, as sad as it is to say).

It sucks, but this has to be a wake-up call to "the Establishment" that when you have someone like Trump and Bernie garnering support (even if it isn't minority support, granted) you have to look at why they're getting that support.

I don't agree with the method or means of BLM either. I find it too focused on one issue. Although that issue is life - a very important issue - it does not hope to consider the ways that cause police brutality. Police brutality is a serious issue, but what's also even more serious is the person who thinks a black person whose car is wrecked after an accident is inherently dangerous and calls the police telling them that they're going to be robbed. The police will have to respond with force if they're told there's a robbery, and what could have been prevented in the first place cut aside for absolute distrust in wide swaths of black people. By concentrating on police brutality you focus on a symptom, not the cause. It's also no surprise many black lives matter people like Kaepernik didn't vote. Even if he didn't agree with the president candidates, there was a down ticket prop about speeding up the process for the death penalty, which unequivocally effects black men. Still, he decided to sit his mulatto ass down. BLM is all talk, no real answers. I abandoned the organization earlier this year. I'd love to make my own organization but don't know how, have the time, nor the willpower.
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« Reply #3871 on: November 10, 2016, 02:37:21 PM »
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There are no checks and balances left...

Like what the fuck is he even talking about the GOP hates muslims as much as Trump does...

And they control it all.

Clinton was the check and balance.
This sounds an awful lot like hero worship to me  :doge

Acting like Hillary was Anakin Skywalker and shit  :heh

"YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!"

It's true tho.

Without Hillary, they don't have to worry about having the necessary numbers in both houses to override presidential vetoes. And now Trump can appoint supreme court justices, and have them confirmed with a majority in Senate, unless democrats are willing to filibuster for the next four years. And even then, McConnell can just trigger the nuclear option and change the rules for confirmation to simple majority.

pls correct me if im wrong benji

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« Reply #3872 on: November 10, 2016, 02:38:49 PM »
Right. A lot of those movements are talk. IIRC, I compared BLM here or somewhere else (maybe reddit? Or private IM services?) with Occupy Wallstreet. The movement is a nice idea but at the end of the day: What impact do they get? Pretty much nothing. Just look at Trump, he's probably not going to get body cams on all officers like Obama (rightly) wanted and BLM's demanded.

But who knows, I know a local college is doing it (first in the nation or so?) as a test run and investment or whatever to make the campus safer for everyone. So there may be a bright future ahead while we go down a proto-facist scare path.

As it is, I hope the black community is able to (as poorly worded as it's coming out of my head and I can't think of another way of wording it) "break the shackles" of their anger toward whites. I can understand it, and I can understand why you had that "fuck all whites, they don't benefit us." But when you divide yourself, you're not going to stand with others as the saying goes.


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« Reply #3874 on: November 10, 2016, 02:43:33 PM »
Himu I love you
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« Reply #3875 on: November 10, 2016, 02:46:16 PM »
What's wrong with this? They're right. You honestly come off badly here as Trump is promising to dismantle the EPA. But Gj making fun of some gaffer I guess.
The survival of the very planet did not hang in the balance on the outcome of this election. Actually dismantling the EPA (something I find to be unlikely but accepting the premise) will not immediately end life on the planet.

The United States is not the significant factor in the global climate or even in environmental pollution anymore. Despite doing barely anything we've dropped in carbon emissions and general pollution drastically over the last 25 years. 75-80% in many cases, 90%! in some. We met a whole bunch of standards we never accepted by default, whereas countries that had signed on still haven't.

It's cost effective for U.S. businesses and the energy industry as a whole, it's why this has happened despite not only a lack of new significant efforts but a rollback of existing regulations during that same period. Emissions from the energy industry dropped something like 15% last year despite no significant regulatory changes compared to even the prior two years.

The elections in China will prove much more important on this factor than Hillary or Trump replacing Obama's barely expansive environmental agenda. (Not entirely his fault, the House has been GOP for coming up on six years now and last two have had a GOP Senate.) None of the three could actually heal the planet and "slow the rise of the oceans" and its silly to think otherwise. They aren't gods.

People thinking a four or eight year setback in only U.S. policy will actually end the stability of the planet and kill billions within our lifetime are ignoring the scientific consensus which explicitly says otherwise.

At the end of the day Benji, the market still does not reflect the true cost of carbon emissions into the atmosphere. That's a critical point to analyzing this that can't be left out. Until that externality cost is properly incorporated into the market, the market is very unlikely to adjust enough to offset or notably reduce the harm that is still being done.  For it to do so would be luck of factors like a technological breakthrough that accelerates the trend well beyond what is anticipated and disrupts the market and forces adaption due to decision-making mostly separate from reducing environmental costs.

Walking away from the table and rolling back the regulations that are on the books, like MPG standards or credits for green energy or walking away from the table on global climate agreements, it will have an effect. Even if you can point to meta data that would still show an overall downward trend, that doesn't mean variables underlying it aren't preventing greater reductions. Given who it looks like may hold these posts, there is very real harm to the notion of a person looking out for the interests of major polluters which will tilt the market in ways that will undermine current trends or even reverse them in areas.

True, the death of the planet in 4 years due to some tipping point that could of been prevented without Trump is over reactionary, but ultimately its sort of a red herring to the more important underlying issues at play.
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« Reply #3876 on: November 10, 2016, 02:49:54 PM »
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« Reply #3877 on: November 10, 2016, 02:56:15 PM »
amirox is banned?

we all get banned eventually

it's the circle of GAF life

Some are doomed to repeat the cycle. I'm starting to see Angelus like a "slave", he's never really let go. all temp bans, no perma to grant him freedom.

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« Reply #3878 on: November 10, 2016, 03:17:36 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223943997&postcount=637
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but you might want to think about this.  GAF used to be a place where info was on the cutting edge.  We had developers posting here that now write us off as a joke due to over-sensitivity.

Japanese developers are now looking at us and considering 'western sensibility'.  A country that used to change churches to 'clinics' in Final Fantasy.  Developers that we shook our heads at in the 'Jack Thompson Era' of the 90s have gone full circle.  GAF is a spearhead in making the western community a complete embarrassment.

I used to think it was so awesome to be a NeoGAF member a decade ago.  An open forum.

Did they seriously ban him for saying this?  Just proves his point.

Anyway, man, what a great thread.  About time this finally came up and hopefully it will lead to some changes and-
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223944402&postcount=639
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Why are you still posting here if it you deem is complete embarrassment? Your post has some clear gamergate shades as well. You still one of them?
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« Reply #3879 on: November 10, 2016, 03:19:31 PM »
It's true tho.
I'm not disagreeing that getting Hillary elected was supremely (pun intended) important.  It was.  And the fact the Dems only gained one senate seat is another embarrassment in and of itself (two if you count retaining Reid's seat in Nevada).

Beyond that post and more referring to the poster, I'm making fun of the fact so many of these posters fell into the same trap of hero worship they were so happy to accuse Sanders and Trump supporters of falling into.  Hillary was not the end all be all and only bastion of goodness in the world.  This election was a disaster...but there is another election in 2 years.   After all the talk of slow change, keeping a steady hand and making pragmatic decisions, for anyone to throw their hands up now after the their Chosen One has fallen is hypocrite.   

But yeah the election is still raw so there is a lot of knee jerk reactions, I understand that.

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« Reply #3880 on: November 10, 2016, 03:20:26 PM »
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Why are you still posting here if it you deem is complete embarrassment? Your post has some clear gamergate shades as well. You still one of them?
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By this line of thinking, shouldn't a big portion of the US leave the country if Trump's election was such an embarassment?

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« Reply #3881 on: November 10, 2016, 03:28:15 PM »
But yeah the election is still raw so there is a lot of knee jerk reactions, I understand that.
That's why you need to build your life up with years of disappointment and never allow yourself to become emotionally invested in anything ever. Just distant.

So far away.

Alone.

It's cold here.

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« Reply #3882 on: November 10, 2016, 03:38:30 PM »

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« Reply #3883 on: November 10, 2016, 03:42:09 PM »

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« Reply #3884 on: November 10, 2016, 03:50:06 PM »
https://medium.com/@courtneyparkerwest/on-woke-white-people-advertising-their-shock-that-racism-just-won-a-presidency-68286682047d#.x6tflg9nm


I'm sure a lot of people's reaction after reading this won't be "well fuck you then" :lol

I mean she's not necessarily wrong, but fuck her anyway. That's the type of shit I've been railing against. "Oh, now you're shocked and dismayed? ::)" Congrats, you have folks saying they are horrified by the results and you're spiking the ball like five feet from the field goal with "but you put him in there, though!"

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« Reply #3885 on: November 10, 2016, 03:54:40 PM »
i wonder if the poligaf infighting, blame assigning wars and replaying the election through endless hypotheticals will end before my ban does :doge

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« Reply #3886 on: November 10, 2016, 03:55:49 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=223984707&postcount=94
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So....were did all the money raised for the Clinton campaign go ?

Down the toilet, sure but what did they spend it on.
The rights to "Fight Song".
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« Reply #3887 on: November 10, 2016, 03:59:15 PM »
Y2Kev on suicide watch after that thread. How much did he claim to donate again? :lol

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« Reply #3888 on: November 10, 2016, 04:04:03 PM »
How old is Y2Kev again? :smug

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« Reply #3889 on: November 10, 2016, 04:04:56 PM »
What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over? :doge

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« Reply #3890 on: November 10, 2016, 04:05:48 PM »
That's why you need to build your life up with years of disappointment and never allow yourself to become emotionally invested in anything ever. Just distant.

So far away.

Alone.

It's cold here.
I need at least one more soul crushing break up before I fully tumble into the abyss.

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« Reply #3891 on: November 10, 2016, 04:07:52 PM »
kev works in an industry that uniformly benefits from a clinton presidency and I refuse to tell you what it is. But he stands to benefit from it and I don't blame him for this at all. It's especially why he was mostly anti-Sanders I think. I don't know. I haven't talked to him in years.
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« Reply #3892 on: November 10, 2016, 04:09:03 PM »
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She's garbage and she screwed us. She should've never been a candidate.
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The truth is the truth. Hillary Clinton wasn't an especially great candidate
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Reading this, I think it's a good thing she lost
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She was a bad candidate in an especially bad time for establishment candidates.
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Well, it's not the Clintons. It's Hillary.
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I said this repeatedly early on, that in addition to being a bad candidate because of her wooden charisma and insularity
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Hillary was a goddamn mistake.
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Hillary was a bad candidate as well.
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What a terrible campaign and even worse candidate.
ohhhh, now that you say it yeah i can see most qualified person ever might have been a bit over the top

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« Reply #3893 on: November 10, 2016, 04:09:40 PM »
What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over? :doge


It's at the discretion of the candidate what to do with it. Most save it for the next election, some donate it back to the party or some use it to fund future elections of protege's within their party.




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« Reply #3894 on: November 10, 2016, 04:09:50 PM »
What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over? :doge

buying the largest supply of medicinal marijuana the world has ever seen.

gonna need it too.

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« Reply #3895 on: November 10, 2016, 04:10:13 PM »
What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over? :doge



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« Reply #3896 on: November 10, 2016, 04:15:21 PM »
That locked thread about moderation is a gold mine :lol

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They are allowed. As long as they are not racist or something like that.

You won't get banned. It's just up to you to defend your opinion. If you do that in a good way, there is no problem. Most dog piling I have seen is because people can't articulate their position and refuse to answer why they believe something.


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« Reply #3897 on: November 10, 2016, 04:18:04 PM »
What happens to the leftover campaign money once it's over? :doge

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« Reply #3898 on: November 10, 2016, 04:20:12 PM »
That locked thread about moderation is a gold mine :lol

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Uh-huh. Right, GAF. ::)

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« Reply #3899 on: November 10, 2016, 04:20:32 PM »
That cocaine looks like powdered milk