VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[fizzel]

Ivanka will be your first lady-prez.

[FStop7]

Ivanka will be your first lady-prez.

Change the dash to a comma and it's still true

[nudemacusers]

Can we rate First Ladies in this thread 

[stufte]

Can we rate First Ladies in this thread 

Ivanka>Eleanor>Everyone else

[benjipwns]

Laura's always been underrated, Hillary's not the only one who can knock off a lover and get away with it.

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Plus librarian.

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[benjipwns]

You call 0.30ish % a landslide?

You have to adjust the numbers for voter bias.

[benjipwns]

why is there not a ten hour loop of that already

[Dennis]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

[Atramental]

For being my alt account.

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j/k

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[benjipwns]

he's back! the OG! and here i thought he was getting soft in his old age...
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=224165316#post224165316

She lost. Get over it. I hate that Trump won, too, but this would be the equivalent of rolling a grenade down a crowded hallway. We would have outright war in this country.

Outright war is far better than rolling over for fascism.

They are the ones with all the guns remember. You'll be dead.

Not with Obama as Commander in Chief.

Nothing more fascist than trying to subvert democratic institutions. The irony is too much.

Trump "won" with the collusion of the Russian government on a variety of fronts including but not limited to hacking into voting systems and hacking into the DNC. There's nothing remotely legitimate about Trump's "victory." It is an aberration of democracy and must be treated as such

Exactly. Which is why no American, really no one in the world, should ever accept this abortion of an election as legitimate. It is not. Trump's fascism and the fascist means by which he "won" the election are not normal and must be problematized every day until he and his ilk are out of power.

"Salty Hillary fans"? This isn't sports or a videogame. I could give fuckall about being on a "winning team." This is fascism, open and naked coming to the United States. So please dial back the glibness for a moment.

Voter suppression was real and documented.

Comey got himself involved in the election in an historic, unprecedented way. Russians were hacking into voting systems.

There's nothing legitimate about the Trump campaign's fascist coup. Nothing.

I will never accept the fascist Trump coup as legitimate and I never will. There are many, many other who will do the same.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and read the sage words of Masha Gessen, a Russian journalist very familiar with the rise of a dictatorship.

Others:

Ah, the Erdoganic version of democracy, only at least a majority of voters supported him and he didn't have interference from the FBI and dictatorships.

Not subverting shit. This would be literally be used for the fucking reason EC is a thing. EC must act and prevent America from killing itself.

Read the Federalist Papers #10 and #68. Preventing something like Trump was part of the design of the Electoral College.

I honestly read posts like these as "minorities, fall back and know your place." Instead of being so flippant and telling people to just accept defeat and get over it, how about you actually be open to legitimate concerns of millions in this country?

[Stro]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

I would assume the same reason she usually gets banned for: Being hyperaggressive, argumentative, and a general asshole.

[benjipwns]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1312593

O.P. fail.

Fuck off.

We get it. A rich white male's discrimination and marginalization of minorities and women doesn't affect you.

But fuck you for thinking you can tell us that we shouldn't be affected by it.

You are on the wrong side of history, O.P. Have fun with that.

"Hey, guys, Hitler won fair and square, accept it!"

OP, you sound privileged as fuck right now.

You and every single moderate motherfucker on this board and on this planet can go fuck themselves.

This is propaganda. We are getting sprayed with this brainwash that this is just some normal election.

Resist.

This thread can't get locked soon enough.

is OP even American

fuck off

This is peak privileged white moderate right here

The longer this discussion goes on, the more I realize that excising Trump voters from my life isn't enough. I also need to excise people who just throw up their hands and say "you just gotta accept it, man!"

I hope you do a lot of World War 2 reading, OP. It feels like as soon as that moment in time left the public consciousness due to age that we're reliving it again. Our grandmas are talking to us about our families escaping being burned in ovens while kids joke about it to our face and tell us to fight after the violence and oppression starts.

We being too rough on op here. This narrative is emanating from a source upstream.



Propaganda.

The more I think about this thread, the more it pisses me off.

Democracy is rolling over for a dude who won such a small percentage of the electorate, and not even the popular vote, when he doesn't give a shit about you? Fuck that, democracy is your officials representing to the best of their ability the will of the people. Trump is actively hostile towards most of the people of the united states through his words and actions. If people don't 'fall in line', it's on him.

Democracy doesn't work when two wolves and a sheep are voting to decide whats for dinner.

Tyranny of the majority is a potential outcome of democracy. It existing does not make it acceptable

Accepting the person who won 26 percent of eligible voters? Not even as many actual voters as the loser, and an insanely low number regardless?

That's not democracy, that's a glitch in the system.

We don't need to wait because the protest are about the kind of democracy Trump is willing to implant on USA (you listen to what is fighting for). The people are saying FUCK YOU Tyranny of the majority is unacceptable. We want a Consensus Democracy, where everybody is included.

I never knew GAF had so many secret libertarians/anarchists.

[FStop7]

Nicely written OP, Himu.  I hope people take the time to absorb it rather than lash out.

[Let's Cyber]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

possibly for calling Trump supporters "distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

[FStop7]

Anybody know why backslashbunny was banned?

possibly for calling Trump supporters "distinguished mentally-challenged fellows"

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

[Let's Cyber]

Next time Mrs. Clinton, don't give people so much credit. She should have pandered to the distinguished mentally-challenged fellows and then been like "lol just kidding but too bad we're forcing you to modernize."

That's only my guess for the ban.

[benjipwns]

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

i think it's using problematic ablest language like "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" which is an unacceptable term

[clothedmacuser]

Nicely written OP, Himu.  I hope people take the time to absorb it rather than lash out.

I remember after that horrible week where two innocent black guys were shot by cops and then the next day there was the Dallas police shooting where she really opened up.  Cindi began using full paragraphs and self-reflection and commenting in a manner to explain her position instead of just flippant insults.  I saw that Cindi wasn't just another of those fart sniffers that get off on being morally right and having the most dismissive attitude to all who don't agree 100%.   But that clarity didn't' last long and soon Cindi was posting trite, "no lies detected" or "America is always racist and always will be," shit.  Yet still, she's the only only of the protected posters willing to do some introspection and attempt to understand others instead of banish.


Massive Duck, C.M. on the other hand must be operating on 4 hours of sleep since Tues and he's spinning in circles to justify being a passive-aggressive, arrogant, self-congratulating jerk-off.   

[Cindi Mayweather]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

[clothedmacuser]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

[king of the internet]

LMAO

Call them all racists
Excuse acts of violence

But please oh please, don't call them distinguished mentally-challenged fellows

i think it's using problematic ablest language like "distinguished mentally-challenged fellow" which is an unacceptable term

It actually is kinda uncool imo

Expand your vocabulary, dummy.

[benjipwns]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

thanks for that btw

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there, we should be even now

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[benjipwns]

It actually is kinda uncool imo

Expand your vocabulary, dummy.

i agree but it's just funny if that's the reason she was banned

[Cindi Mayweather]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

Telling me that is trite makes no sense. You bring up Australia and yeah, sure. Australia may be way different than why it was created but America is still in the position of profiting off of minorities suffering. The America of the past and the here and now subsist off racism and this will not change in the near future. Saying this is something a 14 year old would is highly dismissive and disrespectful.

[king of the internet]

I would imagine they probably do soft bans in general for using the word distinguished mentally-challenged fellow out of context.

[clothedmacuser]

"America is always racist and always will be"

I mean, always will be is probably overly cynical but I'm not seeing the problem with this sentence given America literally became a world power off the backs of my ancestors.

The cynical fatalism bothers me because it's lazy 14-year-old thinking.  Always offer the bleakest view of things and you can insulate yourself from any criticism or counter-argument.  Plus, it's trite, vague, and offers nothing when it's used in every single thread about a minority who is racially profiled.

Plus, Australia was founded as a prison colony but that doesn't reflect what it is today.  To just offer "it was founded on so therefore it exists today," is weak.  Better to talk about the systemic systems of oppression that existed beyond the founding that continues to this day.

Telling me that is trite makes no sense. You bring up Australia and yeah, sure. Australia may be way different than why it was created but America is still in the position of profiting off of minorities suffering. The America of the past and the here and now subsist off racism and this will not change in the near future. Saying this is something a 14 year old would is highly dismissive and disrespectful.

I'm sorry for the 14 year old line and you are right it's dismissive.  It just reminds me of the sort of apathy and whatever-ness that can be worn as an armor.  But I still find it a trite line to trot out for every instance of racism instead of commenting on the subject.  On GAF it's a parroted line applied whenever a poster wants to voice displeasure but not take the time to say anything relevant.

It's not the sentiment that I take issue with it's how it's used on GAF to restrict discussion while offering no real position.  On GAF it's just saying "This is bad," to +1 your morality points.

[Stro]

Is there a country anywhere in the world that doesn't have a foundation of some kind of racism or at least tribalism that pushed out other groups?

[Cindi Mayweather]

I'm not sure but that doesn't mean I have to like it

[benjipwns]

Is there a country anywhere in the world that doesn't have a foundation of some kind of racism or at least tribalism that pushed out other groups?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_date_of_formation#Sortable_list

[clothedmacuser]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand Cindi Mayweather's thread of self introspection is closed with a snarky line from ModBot.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313013

Plenty of places in which to discuss your opinions on the election. Quit making vanity threads to showcase your reaction.

I doubt she takes this lying down

[benjipwns]

I'm done with this talk. Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck the people that voted for him, they endorsed bigotry simply because they have it hard too. Minorities don't get the luxury of climbing out on anybody's backs while tellint them tough shit.

That's it. I'm done with this "discussion".

Fuck communication.

I shouldn't need to prove to somebody that i'm a human being just like them with problems just like them for them not to shit all over me because they think their problems mean more.

Fuck. Them.

wooooooosh

[Stro]

I'm not sure but that doesn't mean I have to like it

I wasn't asking you to like anything. I was just asking a general question.

[Stro]

I ain't afraid of the poo poo

[Cindi Mayweather]

That guy is going to fall into the trap of hate looking at that. Hate is a tiring, draining emotion.

[Let's Cyber]

I'm done with this talk. Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck the people that voted for him, they endorsed bigotry simply because they have it hard too. Minorities don't get the luxury of climbing out on anybody's backs while tellint them tough shit.

That's it. I'm done with this "discussion".

Fuck communication.

I shouldn't need to prove to somebody that i'm a human being just like them with problems just like them for them not to shit all over me because they think their problems mean more.

Fuck. Them.

wooooooosh

*posts on a message board about how they're disinterested in having a discussion*

*posts several more times in the same thread*

[benjipwns]

"we should try and sway people to our side, find ways to convince them of our point of view"
"fuck that they should already know to just do as i want if they want me to stop calling them out as shitbags"





"well, i personally think that..."
"shut the fuck up with your shitbag privilege already, i'm tired of your hatred you bigoted scum"
"i see your point, i guess i will purchase a PS4 Pro"

[Cerveza mas fina]

My cousin voted Trump and he is a second gen immigrant

He is against illegal immigrants and obamacare etc

Catholic, highly educated and well off

Im pretty sure his parents voted Trump too

[Momo]

All this and Trump hasnt even done anything yet, cant imagine what people will be like if he actually did something loathsome

[benjipwns]

Well, he has. Just not from a position of state authority yet.

[archie4208]

All this and Trump hasnt even done anything yet, cant imagine what people will be like if he actually did something loathsome

He's already starting to back off from some of his wackier promises.  Everyone needs to calm the heck down and wait to see what he does.

[Oblivion]

benji, why you banned?

[VomKriege]

In a way, if the EC doesn't overturn this result, it will prove what a useless outdated system it is.

 

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224009328&postcount=99

Not a big fan of federal constructions and stuff like the Electoral College, but the reasons it still exist I thought are obvious to anyone. Fucking the heartland out of the provisions protecting them from "flyover" to just "afterthought country" is not the message you want to sent now. At least wait until Trump screw the pooch in office.

Energy would be better used in other initiatives to defend all of the stuff that will probably come under attack.

[Mupepe]

All this and Trump hasnt even done anything yet, cant imagine what people will be like if he actually did something loathsome

He's already starting to back off from some of his wackier promises.  Everyone needs to calm the heck down and wait to see what he does.

It's understandable why some people are apprehensive. I have three family members who have legitimate concerns for their legal status in this country considering his "First day in office" checklist.

Some people are definitely overreacting though with their end of the world shit

[headwalk]

two days in and a trump presidency is the best thing that has happened to the left in a long time.

it's like we've been finishing in lower mid-table obscurity season in, season out playing football with no identity or purpose beyond staying in the premier league, building a team around has beens and utility lumpers snatching 1-0 wins against sunderland at home. 

now the nightmare has come and we've been relegated, but with it given a chance to rebuild. clear out the dead wood, ask ourselves exactly what kind of club we want to be and bring in the players to build a proper footballing identity.

it's going to be a rough season or two, sky sports super sunday fixtures at old trafford and the emirates replaced by trips to rotherham and wigan, but when we do come back up we'll have an actual idea of who we are, bound by hardships and stock full of the grit required to get out of this hellish league. then maybe we'll actually have a chance of achieving something.             

or maybe we'll just do a leeds and still be irrelevant in a decade.                                 

[Boogie]

All this and Trump hasnt even done anything yet, cant imagine what people will be like if he actually did something loathsome

He's already starting to back off from some of his wackier promises.  Everyone needs to calm the heck down and wait to see what he does.

Some people are definitely overreacting though with their end of the world shit

Well, except maybe long-term on the climate change front.

[zepblackstar]

This assumption that Latinos are some sort of monolith against Evil Trump and deportation without realizing how each group with the community at the very least distrust one another on some level is laughable

Latino citizens/legal residents or even illegals here want more immigration? They will low key it

[Sausage]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224209440&postcount=2186

[agrajag]

GAF:

"Don't comply with the cop = murder" BOO THIS MAN

"Don't comply with GAF mods ideology = ban" 

Not equating the two, of course, but they are just a little inconsistent in their beliefs.

[railGUN]

I would expect some heavy handed moderation for the foreseeable future. GAF is mad as hell, right now. 

Also, EviLore cranked up the shitty audio playing, video playing, malware-ridden ad networks to 11 again. 

 

[Let's Cyber]

I don't know, I didn't like Trump before he was a politician and I hated him more once he went full blowhard and cartoon bully against dignified people I liked in the primary

 

I don't care what anyone says, I  really wish you were still posting on GAF.  I'm curious how they'd handle your brand of conservatism nowadays.

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actually I know exactly how it would go.  Dogpile and a ban.  So...same as it ever was!

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GAF:

"Don't comply with the cop = murder" BOO THIS MAN

"Don't comply with GAF mods ideology = ban" 

Not equating the two, of course, but they are just a little inconsistent in their beliefs.

Not really following the comparison or your logic, honestly.

[Dennis]

bishoptl banned Sony

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224208945&postcount=72

[agrajag]

 

Not really following the comparison or your logic, honestly.

Bish is the online equivalent of the unhinged, trigger-happy policeman.

[Jansen]

bishoptl banned Sony

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224208945&postcount=72

how dare he betray sony-sama

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154200

[Let's Cyber]

Bish is the online equivalent of the unhinged, trigger-happy policeman.

Compare the moderation and bans on a privately owned message board to the state murdering its own citizens, brehs.

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I'm mostly busting your chops 

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[agrajag]

Bish is the online equivalent of the unhinged, trigger-happy policeman.

Compare the moderation and bans on a privately owned message board to the state murdering its own citizens, brehs.

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I'm mostly busting your chops 

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Yeah, I know. Which is why I said I'm not equating the two.

 Ultimately, nothing that happens on GAF or here or other forums is all that important, or worthy of rage.  Bish is a moron, yet he has very little effect on the reality of people's lives, and is nothing compared to murderous, racist cops. Yet here we are, bitching about GAF six threads later 

edit: my point was more a long the lines that Gaffers reward the same kind of the behavior in one situation that they deride in another, the difference  of severity and egregiousness of the actions notwithstanding.

[Momo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313307

Lime.

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313307

Lime.

 

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313307

Lime.

Christ here we go again...

In before lock.

Sick of these Trump threads.

Wow. Maybe keep this stuff to non gaming. If you wanna debate Trump and the election that's cool.
But this seems a bit of a stretch to have in the gaming forum.

all bant

lime's bait is successful

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1313307

Lime.

Christ here we go again...

What was that?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224222253&postcount=62

[railGUN]

Fucking bish, man. 

He's not had a good run as of late. Speaking of late... where the fuck is his comic book?