VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[OnlyRegret]

FFXV fanboys (not Final Fantasy fanboys, the people that have been obsessed with the game for the ten years fanboys) are having meltdowns in the clueless gamer/Conan thread.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224497959&postcount=258

It's not a surprise. Conan is actually pretty good at pointing out when games are up their own ass full of nonsense. He hasn't been desensitized into needing to pretend that anime is good like most video game players. Final Fantasy XV looks like one of the most indulgently stupid and poorly written games ever released, so this is not a surprise.

 

Everything he said is true.

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Still probably gonna get it day 1.

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Nu Stump has been the best 

I really wouldn't be shocked if he's moved on in a few years. He seems sick of playing internet babysitter.

punished stump
a fallen forum cop

[OnlyRegret]

WOOOOOOAAAAAAAHHHHHHH   HHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[VomKriege]

Remember, this is a forum built on brand loyalty uber alles.

And this is probably all there is to say about that PoliGAF fiasco.
As for that press push, well, good for those outlets. Call me cynical but I think it will be a short lived fad.

EDIT :

Astroturfers on neogaf ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314657

[Raist]

Donating to WaPo Why not HuffPo while we're at it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314405

I dub thee reverse Lime

One of the greatest 45th presidents? Well. That won't be particularly hard, will it

[Stro]

That "Thor's a homo" thread is hilarious. A bunch of late college kids in 2016 watch 80s movies for the first time and can't believe that so many movies would dare to say homo and cigarillo so casually. Brehs getting upset about 30 year old comedies not being as PC as a movie from 2016. And at least one person that doesn't understand Blazing Saddles was a satire.

The post where someone explains that in the 80s, it was okay to say homo/cigarillo in movies because everyone thought gay = AIDS = about to be dead so who cares if you hurt their feelings 

Then it gets weird when people are called bigots and various -phobics for saying they, too, would be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man, or kissing a woman who was actually a man. THEN someone comes in and thinks we should be discussing REAL issues, like Donald Trump as president. 

Someone compares gay jokes in the 80s to vegan jokes today, which obviously causes a derail. People randomly dropping "X said Y on Z once", like they're adding to the wiki. It's a perfect GAF storm of 

[Raist]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314612&page=1

 



TFL is ran by fascists confirmed.

[VomKriege]

That's a sentence that has a ton of baggage, though, and everyone knows that.

[Momo]

The Conan thing is comedy and it's supposed to be seen as comedy, if you take it in straight Conan comes off as someone who's never read/watched a fantasy story. Dunno why people want to try and distill real criticism out of it.

That being said, not buying Final Fantasy XV, the platinum demo combat was garbage and that's not changing.

[4KDennis]

I find it cute that Bish thinks he's better than being a house distinguished black fellow.

[VomKriege]

The Conan thing is comedy and it's supposed to be seen as comedy, if you take it in straight Conan comes off as someone who's never read/watched a fantasy story. Dunno why people want to try and distill real criticism out of it.

I suspect because comedy is all they have on their diet really, so they lack the perspective.

I think Conan might be taken in by the stylish nature of P5 if Atlus actually gave him a good build.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224509836&postcount=702

I don't think an outside observer is gonna see that much of a difference...

That's why I find it weird that people here genuinely believe that a game with super shining previews from skeptic veterans like Jeremy Parish is going to be actually trash.
I mean, it really doesn't make sense at this point. This's going to be a mildly good game worst case scenario.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224502330&postcount=461

Never understood how (and why) people are so confident about an unreleased product.

Meltdown forecast for FFXV : Tearstorm with a chance of salt.

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224513022&postcount=1066

Speaking of questionable depictions of Motoko Kusanagi, at the very least the live action movie is above this kind of overtly sexual nonsense.

 

Overt sexualisation, very uncharacteristic for Ghost in the Shell and other Shirow's work 

[Let's Cyber]

I think Conan might be taken in by the stylish nature of P5 if Atlus actually gave him a good build.

I hope Conan-san acknowledges my favorite series.  Please validate my taste in video games senpai.

 

[archie4208]

Conan would rip P5 even harder.

[benjipwns]

You'd think that after what happened to Jimmy Fallon that Conan would care a bit more about his journalistic integrity.

[Let's Cyber]

After the Great Media Purge of 2018, Colbert, Maher, Meyers, Bee and Oliver will be wasting away in labor camps.  Meanwhile Fallon will be drinking mimosas with Ivanka in Trump Tower.

Fallon's drunk ass had his finger to the wind and knew when to play his chips.  #FallonKnew

[Rman]

Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn or why you're shocked such a fact is depressing people.

I agree they're going after the wrong things but they want to help.

comparing their worries to participation trophies makes you look like a dip shit

I get being upset and even dejected.  I remember that feeling after Bush won a second term.  But stuff like that change.org petition is embarrassing.

Eventually you need to start to regroup and think of viable solution and really examine and accept why you lost. You fielded a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign, but you were in a huge bubble so any relevant criticism was squashed.  Bigots will always exists.  And running on a I'm not a bigot platform is the path of a loser. John Kerry had a similar strategy and got wrecked.

Mourn. That's fine. But there are better ways to fight back than asinine and ineffective online petitions.

Not only but there's a prevailing strawman that even thinking of a winning political strategy is now pandering to racists. GTFO. 

I guess Obama pandered to these "deplorables" since he won them in both elections.  This is what I mean.  There's a lack of self criticism and self examination.  There are a few rational voices here and there on the forum but it seems that many just haven't learned anything. 

[headwalk]

i like conan. top tier of yappy yank loudmouths who sit behind a desk. colbert is decent enough too.

no time for the rest of them.

[ToxicAdam]

It's sad that npr is generally accepted as being "left". Just goes to show how off the rails the country is.

I don't think it's accepted as being left, just that people that lean that way are more likely to be big supporters of it. It has a very East Coast left sensibility about it. PBS gets hit with that also.


Also, what a laugh that Evilore donates to the ACLU. Must be to absolve some guilt for him.

[bork]

The fanboy reactions to Conan making jokes about their precious Final Fantasy video game are quite enjoyable.



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[Cerveza mas fina]

That video has shaken my preorder to its roots.

[zomgee]

I find it cute that Bish thinks he's better than being a house distinguished black fellow.

I find it cute that you're still trying

[Shuri]

Can anyone remind gaffers in the "Romeo + Juliette" thread that the 1968 actress that they are reducing to fap fodder was 14 when they shot the movie?

gross. For real

[Brehvolution]

If I don't get satisfactory video game reviews from The Bore, I turn to Conan. 

[Optimus]

Can anyone remind gaffers in the "Romeo + Juliette" thread that the 1968 actress that they are reducing to fap fodder was 14 when they shot the movie?

That'll probably make them even more horny.

[bork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314921

Trump is Hitler now.  Can we cut the fucking hyperbole out already?  Jesus.

[Momo]

'now'

[VomKriege]

He's not Hitler but you can't really fault people for being worried. White supremacists and the european far right are over the moon that he was elected. Let's not forget that, at the first traumatic event, more normal US politicians implemented torture, arbitrary jailings devoid of most legal protections, clandestine kidnappings of foreign nationals and took the habit to order constant discrete military strikes with little accountability.

This shit can spiral downward fast.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Not having an existential crisis but I am definitely scared a white nationalist is in the White House and I'm not sure why not liking that is treated with scorn or why you're shocked such a fact is depressing people.

I agree they're going after the wrong things but they want to help.

comparing their worries to participation trophies makes you look like a dip shit

I get being upset and even dejected.  I remember that feeling after Bush won a second term.  But stuff like that change.org petition is embarrassing.

Eventually you need to start to regroup and think of viable solution and really examine and accept why you lost. You fielded a shitty candidate who ran a shitty campaign, but you were in a huge bubble so any relevant criticism was squashed.  Bigots will always exists.  And running on a I'm not a bigot platform is the path of a loser. John Kerry had a similar strategy and got wrecked.

Mourn. That's fine. But there are better ways to fight back than asinine and ineffective online petitions.

Not only but there's a prevailing strawman that even thinking of a winning political strategy is now pandering to racists. GTFO. 

I guess Obama pandered to these "deplorables" since he won them in both elections.  This is what I mean.  There's a lack of self criticism and self examination.  There are a few rational voices here and there on the forum but it seems that many just haven't learned anything.

Which change.org petition? The one ran by idiots who want to outlaw (and not modernize) the EC? Or the one that's petitioning Trump's appointment of a white nationalist in the WH?

This is my problem with many in this thread. The posts too sweeping and the posts too general. The threads I'm reading ppl have accepted the loss and are rallying behind the call for Keith Ellison. But then I come here and it's "haha gaffers still haven't accepted it, participation trophies;etc" it's like, what gaffers are you even referring to? Why not post a fucking link? Why be lazy and do it like Benji and give us actual quotes? I voted in 2004 too and this feeling is much worse than then personally. Your post comes off as insincere as if there's not more riding here for the American people in this election than in 2004. Are you talking about the people up in arms about appointing a white nationalist or the people protesting or the morons who want to kill the EC? Who?

[Momo]

Trump's a big enough asshole all by himself to not need to be painted as the reincarnation of Hitler, all that does is make people ignore you for lacking an ounce of sense, perspective and scale.

[benjipwns]

First some snark:

If he does attempt to jail his political opponents and shut down press outlets critical of him it will be time for impeachment.

Impeached by his political supporters of course.

And now, history with SG-17:

Franco, Hitler, and Mussolini all rose in similar circumstances with similar rhetoric that can be seen being repeated today with Trump and the alt-right.

The book was about the rise of a Hitler-analog in the US, written before Hitler was the Hitler we all remember today. The overall point was about the rise of fascism. At its root, Franco, Mussolini, and Hitler all rose under similar circumstances, circumstances of which the patterns can been seen emerging again today.

This is not about a direct comparison of Trump to the mass-murdering Hitler we remember today. Rather it is a comparison of the rise of Trump and the rise of fascism across the board in the 1920s and 30s

But at "its root" none of those, or any fascist movements, at all rose under similar circumstances to each other let alone to Trump. Unless your only criteria is that part of the population supported them. And you can apply this to all kinds of transitional dictatorships, including ones that were not self-declared fascists like in Portugal or Greece or the Soviet Bloc.

Hell, Franco rose to political power more because he was the only general still alive at the end of the Civil War than anything else he did.

And yet they were willing to back a social fascist rather than let the third period come about.

[benjipwns]

Let's not forget that, at the first traumatic event, more normal US politicians implemented torture, arbitrary jailings devoid of most legal protections, clandestine kidnappings of foreign nationals and took the habit to order constant discrete military strikes with little accountability.

The death of James Dean?

[Cindi Mayweather]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314921

Trump is Hitler now.  Can we cut the fucking hyperbole out already?  Jesus.

Trump's a big enough asshole all by himself to not need to be painted as the reincarnation of Hitler, all that does is make people ignore you for lacking an ounce of sense, perspective and scale.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/politics/white-nationalists-on-bannon/index.html

[benjipwns]

Duke, who last week lost his longshot bid for the US Senate seat from Louisiana, said he plans on expanding his radio show and is hoping to launch a 24 hour online news show with a similar approach to Comedy Central's Daily Show.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Never mind that the thread lyte posted doesn't say the guy is hitler.

[VomKriege]

Trump's a big enough asshole all by himself to not need to be painted as the reincarnation of Hitler, all that does is make people ignore you for lacking an ounce of sense, perspective and scale.

I don't disagree but while, as benjipwns aptly explained, the situation now is very different from interwar Europe, it is the most vivid analogy we have of a political wave sweeping several countries and resulting ultimately on racist violence condoned and conducted by nation-states. Call me pessimistic but I don't think it's out of the question that down the line (half to a decade to a decade) and should far-right politicians have their way we may look up to mass deportations and/or ignominious policies.

EDIT : As an aside, I always thought that the european radical-left going full 'tard on W.Bush post-9/11, eager to believe any ridiculous conspiracy and the most cartoonish explanations was downright ridiculous.

In the end I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe Trump is different.

[Joe Molotov]

Duke, who last week lost his longshot bid for the US Senate seat from Louisiana, said he plans on expanding his radio show and is hoping to launch a 24 hour online news show with a similar approach to Comedy Central's Daily Show.

I see he's taking the Donald Trump approach to sleeping.

[stufte]

All the chicken littling and godwining is just as lame now as when people did it to Obama. Or Bush. It's reductionist and simple-minded to compare anyone in US politics to the likes of Hitler.

[Cindi Mayweather]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1314975

This thread blows

[railGUN]

Got this ad from mobile GAF on my iPhone today.

 

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Seriously 



Didn't report

 

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224534667&postcount=31

[Tasty]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224534667&postcount=31

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I disagree, it looks like, despite a lot of effort being put in some areas, the game will be completely janky.

 The graphics, the animations, the entire driving mechanic, the "part1/part2" thing etc. etc. etc. all remind me of things that belong early access games. It's the shitty patchwork equivalent of JRPGs, the only exception being that you have to sell 10s of millions of quilts just to break even.

 I say this as someone who really likes what Final Fantasy has to offer, btw.

I'm not sure you saw the thread title.

[Boredfrom]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224534667&postcount=31

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I still need to play SMTIVA, but will be probably true...

[demi]

Pokemon always gets high scores. We already discussed the game is the very definition of overrated.

[Boredfrom]

Pokemon is overrated but is still probably better than must JRPG stuff this year or the rest is too niche to make people care to build a case for it.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I made the mistake of looking at GAF while on a bathroom break and saw that Chili's thread was up and something like 8 or 9 pages. I was like "I wonder what Chili's did to apologize, and why is this thread so damned long? How many pages of 'gross' is necessary?" So I click the thread to see if there was any news on the last page or so. It was just a swathe of posters quoting one very poor and obvious troll and being like "Wow!" and dog piling. I mean come on GAF. The guy was an obvious troll that wouldn't make a 12 year old playing battlefield raise an eyebrow and you're all legit shook?

[archie4208]

At the very least SMT4A's soundtrack will crush Pokemon.

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(The second video has a major plot spoiler in the title)

[Take My Breh Away]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224538699&postcount=976

Guy who posted the Vag in Watch Dogs 2 got his ban extended because he posted about it on GAF.

Which GAF mod snitched out the snatch to Sony? 

[Purrp Skirrp]

“Is there anything we can do to stop this,” Wolfhowwl wrote in a post on the NeoGAF message board, a community of passionate gamers. “FFXV is too important to be sabotaged by the ill informed rants of an uncultured Western talk show host. I felt sickened just seeing all the hard work of [game director Hajime] Tabata-san and others being insulted like this.”

[Cindi Mayweather]

Looking forward to the game but

[tiesto]

Remember, this is a forum built on brand loyalty uber alles.

And this is probably all there is to say about that PoliGAF fiasco.
As for that press push, well, good for those outlets. Call me cynical but I think it will be a short lived fad.

EDIT :

Astroturfers on neogaf ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314657

What does astroturfer mean? I hear it a lot...

[demi]

Astroturfers are people who fake being random people but are in fact paid schills to promote a product.

Like when you see "Gee, certainly cant wait for that Pokemon! Super hyped!" or "LOL! Look at this hilarious video about Pokemon!"

[Tasty]

Astroturfers are people who fake being random people but are in fact paid schills to promote a product.

Like when you see "Gee, certainly cant wait for that Pokemon! Super hyped!" or "LOL! Look at this hilarious video about Pokemon!"

Y-... yeah, who... who would do something like that...

[zomgee]

I was on stage at Javits Center the night Hillary lost

So I've been reading threads on GAF for the last few days and can't believe its already been a week since Hillary lost. I'm not a prolific poster here but possibly as a process of catharsis for myself figured I would post a quick thread and perhaps a short AMA if anyone had any questions. I searched for a thread but only found one that was locked due to name-calling so mods please lock if against TOS etc.

The whole evening was a shit show and truly I think its because the campaign could never figure out if they were going to win or not. They not once ever had strong evidence that they were a lock to win, this was way back from Bernie days, all the way through the general and Trump i.e. Everyone saying they assumed they were going to win is wrong.

Wonder how this'll go.

[Raist]

Remember, this is a forum built on brand loyalty uber alles.

And this is probably all there is to say about that PoliGAF fiasco.
As for that press push, well, good for those outlets. Call me cynical but I think it will be a short lived fad.

EDIT :

Astroturfers on neogaf ?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1314657

What does astroturfer mean? I hear it a lot...

NeoGAF.com > XiaNaphryz > view all threads by

[VomKriege]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224587878&postcount=92

Let's be honest, if Sanders lost the primary and Hillary lost the general, both of them are losers, and neither is the future.

Wouldn't that mean that Hillary was a loser in 2008 and wasn't the future ?

EDIT :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224592705&postcount=84

To understand this election you have to understand what a complete fucking breakdown of polling it was. Polling is how you make strategic decisions, see where you're weak and where you're strong. She had like a six point lead in Wisconsin for ages, literally no-one in any role, strategist or pundit, credibly thought that was "wrong"

Out of all the talking points, this is the one that angers me the most. "The strategy was sound according to the data. But the data was wrong." as if the fucking "data" itself was a fact of nature.

[Boredfrom]

Is Lime Steve Bannon? Almost everything I heard about him in the mainstream media is him being a piece of shit so is surprising to hear that Lime thinks is normalized outside baiting for bans...

[benjipwns]

Out of all the talking points, this is the one that angers me the most. "The strategy was sound according to the data. But the data was wrong." as if the fucking "data" itself was a fact of nature.

Look, next time, we just have to fix the data and winning is assured. A six-point lead in Wisconsin wasn't enough.

For my 2018 model I'm assuming the electorate is 30% black in every state.

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224601327&postcount=1809

Notice how in the first couple of hundred posts after the segment was actually up, the only "negative" posts are from people who want to reaffirm their opinion so they can have "I always knew I was right" moments and none from the so called "butthurt fans" against Conan.  This is why these FFXV threads go for so long.  It's because you have so many people and even so many mods(which people seem to worship here) saying this game is shit, without even playing the latest demo or even reading a complete preview (how many of you actually even read the full EDGE preview?).  Someone can not even say NMS got as much hate because they hardly showed or let anyone see or preview before the release of the game.

And people wondering why they didn't make any comment on Cidney...it is strange they didn't, but you have threads on GAF calling the game sexist for what little we know about the female characters.  A new president known for being a bigot was just elected.  I get the feeling they didn't want to stir up any controversy.

[Joe Molotov]

Out of all the talking points, this is the one that angers me the most. "The strategy was sound according to the data. But the data was wrong." as if the fucking "data" itself was a fact of nature.

Look, next time, we just have to fix the data and winning is assured. A six-point lead in Wisconsin wasn't enough.

For my 2018 model I'm assuming the electorate is 30% black in every state.

If you don't like what you got, why don't you change it? If your world is all screwed up, then rearrange it.

[Nola]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224587878&postcount=92

Let's be honest, if Sanders lost the primary and Hillary lost the general, both of them are losers, and neither is the future.

Wouldn't that mean that Hillary was a loser in 2008 and wasn't the future ?

EDIT :
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224592705&postcount=84

To understand this election you have to understand what a complete fucking breakdown of polling it was. Polling is how you make strategic decisions, see where you're weak and where you're strong. She had like a six point lead in Wisconsin for ages, literally no-one in any role, strategist or pundit, credibly thought that was "wrong"

Out of all the talking points, this is the one that angers me the most. "The strategy was sound according to the data. But the data was wrong." as if the fucking "data" itself was a fact of nature.

Honestly, yes, a lot of the data had poor underlying assumptions, but as more stuff comes out, it seems like the Hillary campaign had some glaring flaws in their own process of analyzing the numbers that exacerbated this.