VOAT Containment Megathread of Trash People for Trash People

[zepblackstar]

People on the ground in Michigan and Wisconsin months before told them come up there and they barely did till the last weeks of the campaign.

[VomKriege]

Yeah, but that's my point. The data itself can be flawed or imprecise, especially when you extrapolate and model on such a scale. Relying as much on data as they reportedly did is also a conscious choice the campaign made. Beyond that, it's actually not all that clear they played the best playbook relative to the (flawed) info they had.

[james]

Look, next time, we just have to fix the data and winning is assured. A six-point lead in Wisconsin wasn't enough.

For my 2018 model I'm assuming the electorate is 30% black in every state.

The "yas Hillary" brigade creaming their pants about people early voting had me so confused.

Did they not realize early voting was open to everybody? And not just hillary fans?

[Let's Cyber]

Yeah, but that's my point. The data itself can be flawed or imprecise, especially when you extrapolate and model on such a scale. Relying as much on data as they reportedly did is also a conscious choice the campaign made. Beyond that, it's actually not all that clear they played the best playbook relative to the (flawed) info they had.

Sounds like her campaign was as cold and calculating as she is 

Stupid, fleshy human beings getting in the way of greatness   

HILLARYBOT HAS 93% CHANCE OF VICTORY.  LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, STUPID APES

[zepblackstar]

Glenn Beck is WOKE!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315299

[benjipwns]

The "yas Hillary" brigade creaming their pants about people early voting had me so confused.

Did they not realize early voting was open to everybody? And not just hillary fans?

THE DEMOGRAPHICS OR SOMETHING

WOMEN!

[El Babua]

Them looking at all those new NPA voters in Florida should have been the first sign of a portentous outcome. Instead we just got "yas, unprecedented Hispanic turnout" as the analysis.

I wanted to believe the later. 

[james]

Them looking at all those new NPA voters in Florida should have been the first sign of a portentous outcome. Instead we just got "yas, unprecedented Hispanic turnout" as the analysis.

I wanted to believe the later. 

I mean, even Poligaf were calling them "embarrassed republicans" a year ago. And suddenly NPA meant 100% Hillary?

[Great Rumbler]

Glenn Beck is WOKE!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315299

Glenn Beck's face turn is pretty wild, considering the sorts of fringe conservative conspiracy theories he built his career peddling.

[El Babua]

Them looking at all those new NPA voters in Florida should have been the first sign of a portentous outcome. Instead we just got "yas, unprecedented Hispanic turnout" as the analysis.

I wanted to believe the later. 

I mean, even Poligaf were calling them "embarrassed republicans" a year ago. And suddenly NPA meant 100% Hillary?

2 million new Puerto Rican voters man!

[zepblackstar]

oh the hispanic voters were higher but

Overall, 35% of Latino voters in Florida supported Trump, but that share was down from 2012, when Mitt Romney won 39% of their vote.

plus you add a higher turnout among whites and well...


 

[Brehvolution]

Glenn Beck is WOKE!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315299

Glenn Beck's face turn is pretty wild, considering the sorts of fringe conservative conspiracy theories he built his career peddling.

He's a capitalistic mole if anything.

We need to stop talking about him and he'll disappear like palin.

[zepblackstar]

Beck empire been falling apart over the last 2 years, this is very calculated to get back on the media as the sympy conservative.

[Dennis]

Glenn Beck is a two-faced piece of shit.

LOL he must have been real shook on election night. He didn't see that coming.

Now instead of a seat at the table he has got nothing. Serves him right.

All the fucking bullshit over the years to earn a dollar.

[benjipwns]

[clothedmacuser]

Great, we have to hear about this Straw Man for the next four years.

It refers to the idea that Trump voters were mostly motivated by "economic anxiety" and were in no way supportive of the bigotry that the campaign interwove with their talk of job being sent off to foreign lands while foreigners snuck in to steal them from hardworking Americans.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224622444&postcount=411

Also the idea that white people blame minorities for the loss. 

[clothedmacuser]

Does Bish now how to announce to the rest of GAF every single ban he decides?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224622654&postcount=413




We get it, you are the banning guy.  Maybe dream a little bigger?

[benjipwns]

I hate how Conan treats his assistant, he is horrible to him all the time it's making me enjoy clueless gamer less and less

[VomKriege]

NoblesseOblige : the Hero GAF deserves

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224621832&postcount=11

Umm. Do you know someone around here who knows my dad better than I do? If he held genuinely racist views, I would know it and I wouldn't say otherwise.

Hence my saying we'll have to take your word on that one? Regardless of how suspect it may sound (and getting defensive about it just raises it).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224622981&postcount=59

Yes insulting someone's father is the way to go sure ...

I'm sure Trump supporting daddy is a big strong man that could take it, right? I mean we in Trump America now, I'm just speaking my mind, telling it how it is! If he catches feels then it's just him being too politically correct.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224623365&postcount=73

Well, I didn't actually call his old man racist. But regardless, it's not that shocking people have a positive bias for their family. Personally, half of mine is a bunch of bigots. Rather than giving them a pass because 'blood' and acting cowardly by covering my ears I'll instead call them out on it. If they want to keep being stupid then I got better things to do that aren't wasting time with 'em.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224624490&postcount=102

Haha. Wow. Okay, I rescind what I said earlier. I don't believe you when you say your old man ain't racist. Can't believe you could actually post that Trump hasn't been 'intentionally racist'. Not only that, but to also retool more subtle racism as 'racial biases' is just... ugh. Why do you think that's acceptable?

 
What courage to even dignify this suspect GAFfer with answers.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Did anyone link to the astroturfing thread ?

[Optimus]

NoblesseOblige : the Hero GAF deserves

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224621832&postcount=11

Umm. Do you know someone around here who knows my dad better than I do? If he held genuinely racist views, I would know it and I wouldn't say otherwise.

Hence my saying we'll have to take your word on that one? Regardless of how suspect it may sound (and getting defensive about it just raises it).

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224622981&postcount=59

Yes insulting someone's father is the way to go sure ...

I'm sure Trump supporting daddy is a big strong man that could take it, right? I mean we in Trump America now, I'm just speaking my mind, telling it how it is! If he catches feels then it's just him being too politically correct.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224623365&postcount=73

Well, I didn't actually call his old man racist. But regardless, it's not that shocking people have a positive bias for their family. Personally, half of mine is a bunch of bigots. Rather than giving them a pass because 'blood' and acting cowardly by covering my ears I'll instead call them out on it. If they want to keep being stupid then I got better things to do that aren't wasting time with 'em.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224624490&postcount=102

Haha. Wow. Okay, I rescind what I said earlier. I don't believe you when you say your old man ain't racist. Can't believe you could actually post that Trump hasn't been 'intentionally racist'. Not only that, but to also retool more subtle racism as 'racial biases' is just... ugh. Why do you think that's acceptable?

 
What courage to even dignify this suspect GAFfer with answers.

The forum has been full of obnoxious brats for quite a while but they're now also bitter and angry, it's too much. It's fucking unreadable, no wonder people are abandoning it so fast. Not to mention their political analysis which is the equivalent of a 12 year old who was just introduced to US politics.

"This guy good because on my side, this guy evil because he isn't". Morons.

[Stro]

Man, everyone has a family member (or more) that says some froggy shit about some subject from time to time. When you're starting to cut your family off due to political differences



and when you're bragging about it online for cred to show how down you are? 

You aren't changing the world because you told your dad he's a racist and you won't be there for Christmas ever again (you can still send the gift card, tho)

[Cerveza mas fina]

Like if you are not going to speak to your own fucking family because they have different views then how can you expect to function in society and engage strangers/friends/colleagues etc in political debate and try to gap bridges and not deepen divides.

Grow a spine you worthless shits.

Maybe this Trump presidency is what these people need to man up.

"bu bu alt right doesn't want to listen to reason and engage in debate" -posted on Xmas eve by a lonely gaffer who didn't want to talk to his racist uncle

[Cerveza mas fina]

but what can you expect from a forum run by a man that feels he got dissed by a pr shill who didnt shake his hand

if you bring that kind of mentality and psychological resilience to your moderation team you know where the forum is heading

[Momo]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

[seagrams hotsauce]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224538699&postcount=976

Guy who posted the Vag in Watch Dogs 2 got his ban extended because he posted about it on GAF.

Which GAF mod snitched out the snatch to Sony? 

paging etoilet

[Cerveza mas fina]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

I dont think there is its just a new buzzword like echo chamber or DECK

[Stro]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

I think Alt Right is supposed to be like...conservatives that use the internet and like their memes dank, maybe? Plus with more overt white power. Or something. Idk. Literally everything has been called alt-right on GAF, so it's pretty hard to get a set definition of it.

[Momo]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224538699&postcount=976

Guy who posted the Vag in Watch Dogs 2 got his ban extended because he posted about it on GAF.

Which GAF mod snitched out the snatch to Sony? 

paging etoilet

Too bad they're patching it now 

[VomKriege]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Trumps America, patch vagina out of games

so mysogonist

thanks trump

[Faction]

Trumps America, patch vagina out of games

so mysogonist

thanks trump

grab 'em by the ERROR: 'PUSSY', NO SUCH FILE OR DIRECTORY

I laughed way to hard at this, I think I'm up to early.  Oh god.

[Joe Molotov]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

they do butt stuff and don't go to church

[VomKriege]

I mentioned it a few days ago, but the news has now reached Neogaf that a dev working on NMS at Hello Games has taken a job at CIG.
As expected...

Stop this fucking hate campaign against Hello Games. There's been plenty of that shit already. Enough is enough.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224654583&postcount=54

Leaving all sarcasm for Star Citizen aside, It doesn't seem too unreasonable to wonder how this affects the supposed commitment to keeping No Man's Sky updated by Hello Games, considering he was a longtime employee and the workforce is so small to begin with.

[agrajag]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

They have memes

[agrajag]

Am I overreacting? A video game just called me a maricon, mods help

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315551

[Brehvolution]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

they do butt stuff and don't go to church

[bork]

Am I overreacting? A video game just called me a maricon, mods help

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315551

So they patched out vaginas and I guess foul language is next up on the chopping block!  Dirty shit in an M-Rated game?  Unacceptable*!


(*Except for cocks)

[Optimus]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

That is a crappy oversimplification imo. There are groups of people that are considered alt-right that just fucking hate political correctness, others who are fiscally conservative but have no problem with gays or atheists, the conspiracy nuts and so on. They often combine like many conspiracy nuts are also racists but not always.

[VomKriege]

Don't really fancy a game of No True Scotsman, to be fair. That the label is applied to or self-claimed by a wide variety of individuals with different level of commitment and their own personal motives is none of my concern (hence the "surfing on reactionary outbursts"). I'll stand by my definition to what is the agenda of the people leading or harnessing it as a real political movement.

I voted for the Communists of couple of times in my life, without believing in class struggle theory or historical materialism. Does that make the Communist Party less Marxist ?

[Optimus]

Don't really fancy a game of No True Scotsman, to be fair. That the label is applied to or self-claimed by a wide variety of individuals with different level of commitment and their own personal motives is none of my concern (hence the "surfing on reactionary outbursts"). I'll stand by my definition to what is the agenda of the people leading or harnessing it as a real political movement.

I voted for the Communists of couple of times in my life, without believing in class struggle theory or historical materialism. Does that make the Communist Party less Marxist ?

The difference being that communism has a clear goals and definition, alt-right has none, it's just a blanket term for alternatives to the traditional right.

[etiolate]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

Alt-right is a lot of people who looked at how ridiculous the accusations of racism and sexism had gotten, thought to themselves, "if everything I say is going to be called racist, then why care what I say?" If everything is X then nothing is X being the principle. So they started riling people up with racist or inflammatory memes. This then attracted actual racists and fringe groups who joined in. It's 4chan acting like Stormfront for lels which then attracted Stormfront.

So you have people with no sincerity at the core surrounded by fringe people who are sincere about some dumb things. (Like nRX, which no longer believe in democracy and want some philosopher King/CEO of the nation.)

[Owl-faced Wizard]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

That is a crappy oversimplification imo. There are groups of people that are considered alt-right that just fucking hate political correctness, others who are fiscally conservative but have no problem with gays or atheists, the conspiracy nuts and so on. They often combine like many conspiracy nuts are also racists but not always.

How's this: The traditional right are racist.  The alt right aren't necessarily racist, they just hate everyone who isn't racist because who are they to tell me what to do?

[stufte]

Am I overreacting? A video game just called me a maricon, mods help

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1315551

So they patched out vaginas and I guess foul language is next up on the chopping block!  Dirty shit in an M-Rated game?  Unacceptable*!


(*Except for cocks)

Cocks are progressive!

[demi]

Is the penis cut or not?

[stufte]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

That is a crappy oversimplification imo. There are groups of people that are considered alt-right that just fucking hate political correctness, others who are fiscally conservative but have no problem with gays or atheists, the conspiracy nuts and so on. They often combine like many conspiracy nuts are also racists but not always.

How's this: The traditional right are racist.  The alt right aren't necessarily racist, they just hate everyone who isn't racist because who are they to tell me what to do?

The traditional right isn't inherently racist, but lots of racists are traditional right. There are also lots of racist leftists. The alt-right is a manifestation of the neo-liberals ousting regular liberals and moderates out for disagreeing with them on some things.

Racism is less a political thing and more of a human nature thing. 

[Tasty]

The alt-right is made up of liberals and moderates? wut

[Optimus]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

That is a crappy oversimplification imo. There are groups of people that are considered alt-right that just fucking hate political correctness, others who are fiscally conservative but have no problem with gays or atheists, the conspiracy nuts and so on. They often combine like many conspiracy nuts are also racists but not always.

How's this: The traditional right are racist.  The alt right aren't necessarily racist, they just hate everyone who isn't racist because who are they to tell me what to do?

The way I witnessed it the whole alt-right movement started as a reaction against idiot liberals who were accusing everyone and everything of being racist/sexist. Not that many in the right aren't racists but that shit mentality of generalizing and hurling accusations with no proof would eventually backfire badly so it did and within a few years they grew into a multitude of different groups. So how do you react to that? You hurl accusations again. You people have learned nothing.

Not to mention that this obsession with identity politics from both sides is very useful to the ruling class of the country that has used it repeatedly for decades to distract. Yet you do it again. This country is stupid beyond comprehension.

[stufte]

The alt-right is made up of liberals and moderates? wut

yep. and right leaning moderates.

[Owl-faced Wizard]

how is alt right different from just the right or the general GOP? I still have no idea wtf alt right is

"Alt-right" is literally just a media-savvy repackaging of the far right and neofascists for the Internet age, which have proven adept at surfing on outbursts of reactionary sentiment. That's really all there is to it.
The irony on GAF is that it seems it's now considered a sanitized label when just a few weeks ago it was a race to slap it everywhere.

That is a crappy oversimplification imo. There are groups of people that are considered alt-right that just fucking hate political correctness, others who are fiscally conservative but have no problem with gays or atheists, the conspiracy nuts and so on. They often combine like many conspiracy nuts are also racists but not always.

How's this: The traditional right are racist.  The alt right aren't necessarily racist, they just hate everyone who isn't racist because who are they to tell me what to do?

The way I witnessed it the whole alt-right movement started as a reaction against idiot liberals who were accusing everyone and everything of being racist/sexist. Not that many in the right aren't racists but that shit mentality of generalizing and hurling accusations with no proof would eventually backfire badly so it did and within a few years they grew into a multitude of different groups. So how do you react to that? You hurl accusations again. You people have learned nothing.

What do you mean you people?

[Tasty]

The alt-right is made up of liberals and moderates? wut

yep. and right leaning moderates.

[Rufus]

They are anti-progressive reactionaries (or a counterculture, if you want a more neutral term) adopting 4chan-style modes of communication.

[Dennis]

  Kabouter

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224667009&postcount=39

[etiolate]

The alt-right does horseshoe theory after awhile and gets as bad as those they mock.

However, they probably don't care about gay marriage or which bathroom you use, but dislike the way the discussion is done and by whom seems to run the discussion.

[Optimus]

Kabouter

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224667009&postcount=39

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224674395&postcount=101

 

 

[MMaRsu]

Have people on GAF not seen Scarface or something lol

How has someone never heard of Maricon lo0l

[zomgee]

Kabouter

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224667009&postcount=39

"60+ plus should be the voting cutoff point"

Oy.

[FStop7]

Take Michael Shannon seriously breh

In the pre-Trump world everyone would be dogpiling him for shitting on BvS 

[nachobro]

wtf happened to this thread? you people are disgusting

Is the penis cut or not?

oh nevermind we're back on track

[Jansen]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315764