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zomgee

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6660 on: December 19, 2016, 03:27:48 PM »
Gonna be shitty here, but I thought 'wait and see' was always the smarmy knee jerk pseudo-care reaction.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6661 on: December 19, 2016, 03:30:01 PM »
Wii U+
Apparently even that is optimistic. :doge

Runs Zelda better than the Wii U version so... :yeshrug

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6662 on: December 19, 2016, 03:32:44 PM »
We have had terrorist attacks involving deliberately ploughing into crowds with trucks before so it is not that far-fetched to think "Terror!"

It also shows how garbage the anti-terror stuff in the US is.

Yes, lets check the bags of people boarding the subway but ignore the 18 wheeler driving into the Lincoln tunnel.

Where does more explosives fit, in a purse, or in A FUCKING 18 WHEELER
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6663 on: December 19, 2016, 03:46:07 PM »
I just celebrated Christmas barely a year ago ffs 2016 stay safe

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« Reply #6664 on: December 19, 2016, 04:23:50 PM »
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« Reply #6665 on: December 19, 2016, 04:30:36 PM »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6666 on: December 19, 2016, 04:47:49 PM »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6667 on: December 19, 2016, 05:08:19 PM »
If only the diplomat had a gun this could have been prevented

-Hamilton, 2nd amendment

zepblackstar

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6668 on: December 19, 2016, 05:48:53 PM »
I just celebrated Christmas barely a year ago ffs 2016 stay safe

I read about things called markets

stay safe

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6669 on: December 19, 2016, 06:02:56 PM »
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The problem is the states enjoy being swing states because all that $$$ from visits and the "marketing" they get from being a swing state.

Moving to publically funded elections would curtail a lot of that.
:mindblown

etiolate

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6670 on: December 19, 2016, 06:04:22 PM »
That quote sounds like victim blaming to me!

benjipwns

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« Reply #6671 on: December 19, 2016, 06:05:15 PM »
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I can't stand Gabbard not just because she's pretty much anti-lgbt and a racist no matter how much she apparently changed her mind

benjipwns

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« Reply #6672 on: December 19, 2016, 06:06:38 PM »
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An elector actually voted for an eagle. LMAO.
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« Reply #6673 on: December 19, 2016, 06:07:20 PM »
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maybe you should consider things out of just graphics, have you seen the physics and the size of breath of the wild? if thats not pushing bundaries i dont know what is


 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Boredfrom

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6674 on: December 19, 2016, 06:09:16 PM »
Gaf still shitting on Palmer Luckey and complaining about the Oculous while I don't see them threatening to delete their facebooks as Peter Thiel is in Trump cabinet (and actually donated money to him)

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6675 on: December 19, 2016, 06:10:59 PM »
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This is fucking terrible and there is not a damn thing we can do about it. I feel so powerless. This is pointless. We can't win. It's just not possible.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6676 on: December 19, 2016, 06:17:44 PM »
Don't you mean:
 "   :american "
Dude was Italian :ufup

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6677 on: December 19, 2016, 06:38:20 PM »
I love how this theory always, always gets trotted out during the "we lost, lets find reasons it's not actually our fault but other peoples" period:
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I think the Democracts need to be much less ignorant and be able to see the big picture. Republicans already view this as a binary Us vs Them and will vote for Republicans regardless of purity tests, etc. It's the delicate snowflakes in the Democratic party who cant put party above all else who voted 3rd party (which will never win and if you truly think 3rd parties had a shot, ask yourself why Sanders ran as a Democrat instead of 3rd party?) or chose not to vote at all are completely ignorant of what is important, what truly matters: ensuring the party that aligns closest with your beliefs (the party your idealized candidate aligns to by the way), the one of two parties with a chance of the white house, gets to to the white house and wins seats in Congress. Instead, its like we are comprised of petulant children who rather not engage or throw their vote in the toilet because "the candidate at the top of the ticket wasnt my chosen candidate, the candidate didnt excite me, etc." This was an election that was far too important for this reckless attitude and as a result we are reaping the "rewards" of it.

What we need to do? We need Democrats as a whole to realize that as long as the party as a whole aligns closest to what we hold as true values, we need to vote for that candidate. As much shit as people give Republicans, they have figured that out long ago while Democrats navel gaze.
post could be improved if he was also responding to someone by pointing out that Hillary won the most votes ever and won the popular vote

benjipwns

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« Reply #6678 on: December 19, 2016, 06:43:34 PM »
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I love how people are looking for "Presidential" democratic candidates.

All they need to do is run a better entertainer. That's because the American electorate is a cesspool that votes with their emotions and not with rational facts.

Boredfrom

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6679 on: December 19, 2016, 06:45:48 PM »
I love how this theory always, always gets trotted out during the "we lost, lets find reasons it's not actually our fault but other peoples" period:
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I think the Democracts need to be much less ignorant and be able to see the big picture. Republicans already view this as a binary Us vs Them and will vote for Republicans regardless of purity tests, etc. It's the delicate snowflakes in the Democratic party who cant put party above all else who voted 3rd party (which will never win and if you truly think 3rd parties had a shot, ask yourself why Sanders ran as a Democrat instead of 3rd party?) or chose not to vote at all are completely ignorant of what is important, what truly matters: ensuring the party that aligns closest with your beliefs (the party your idealized candidate aligns to by the way), the one of two parties with a chance of the white house, gets to to the white house and wins seats in Congress. Instead, its like we are comprised of petulant children who rather not engage or throw their vote in the toilet because "the candidate at the top of the ticket wasnt my chosen candidate, the candidate didnt excite me, etc." This was an election that was far too important for this reckless attitude and as a result we are reaping the "rewards" of it.

What we need to do? We need Democrats as a whole to realize that as long as the party as a whole aligns closest to what we hold as true values, we need to vote for that candidate. As much shit as people give Republicans, they have figured that out long ago while Democrats navel gaze.

The third party bashing is kind of sad given that they now they required their votes to win but is their fault because they dont like the Democrats candidate and dont think Trump is going to cause a nuclear winter. 

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« Reply #6680 on: December 19, 2016, 07:08:43 PM »
I personally blame the "yaaaaas queen" crowd for the election loss.

After months of being told you were a racist, sexist traitor IDIOT for even considering voting third party......well, voting 3rd party sure looks tasty as a way to spite them.

And lord knows they have been spited
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6681 on: December 19, 2016, 07:13:09 PM »
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Sanders got nastier than Obama but that's mostly because Obama was in the lead most of the time. Clinton also got pretty nasty to Obama, and then moved to support him afterwards. Which is kind of what Bernie did!
Sanders did a two prong attack on the candidate and the party.

That's a scorched earth attack which doesn't leave much room open for reconciliation once you go down that route.
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He reconciled, but he'd poisoned too many of his supporters to get them to follow along with him. I don't think we ever get them back at this point, without doing greater harm to the party.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6682 on: December 19, 2016, 07:24:57 PM »
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I love how people are looking for "Presidential" democratic candidates.

All they need to do is run a better entertainer. That's because the American electorate is a cesspool that votes with their emotions and not with rational facts.

I thought this was supposed to be the party that cares about me. There's that old saying about Democrats having a heart, but Republicans having a brain. I'm starting to wonder if some of these Democrats have either.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6683 on: December 19, 2016, 07:30:41 PM »
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Great Rumbler

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6684 on: December 19, 2016, 07:31:44 PM »
GAF treats politics like it treats the console war: it's not just about winning, it's not just about being right, it's about forcing your opponent to admit that they were wrong.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6685 on: December 19, 2016, 07:36:46 PM »
America treats politics like it treats sports: it's not just about winning, it's not just about being right, it's about forcing your opponent to admit that they were wrong.

Fixed
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6686 on: December 19, 2016, 07:37:43 PM »
Wow 213372bu, you could at least attempt to disguise you are trying to stir up shit.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6687 on: December 19, 2016, 07:40:14 PM »
GAF treats politics like it treats the console war: it's not just about winning, it's not just about being right, it's about forcing your opponent to admit that they were wrong.

Trump just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about american presidents (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Russia where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is the american public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to book for his hotels, nor will they golf in his courses. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Trump has alienated an entire society with this move.

Trump, publicly apologize and forfeit your presidency or you can kiss your business goodbye.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6688 on: December 19, 2016, 07:49:21 PM »
oh the main thread is more fun:
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Ok, I've resisted the urge to support ditching the EC in the past, but it's time. This was literally what it was created for and if it couldn't act as designed then buh-bye.
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We need to purge the extreme left from the Democratic Party.

The problem with being a party of free thinkers rather than fuckhead racist sheeple is that we get a lot of looney bin shithead free thinkers on the left who care more about principles than brown people or women or LGBTQ people.

Purge + obstinance in governing + shelling the right and vilifying them for what they are, which is racist, sexist, and stupid. That's the ticket.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6689 on: December 19, 2016, 07:50:20 PM »
I personally blame the "yaaaaas queen" crowd for the election loss.

After months of being told you were a racist, sexist traitor IDIOT for even considering voting third party......well, voting 3rd party sure looks tasty as a way to spite them.

And lord knows they have been spited

You mean we should coddle racists?  I'm sorry, I will not talk to a person who considers me subhuman.
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6690 on: December 19, 2016, 07:51:46 PM »
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Bernie stated that he wanted to go after white voters, and he is a nationalist (ie anti trade).
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he is white, and wanted to run on a platform of appealing to white people first, and he is a nationalist.
:ohhh

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6691 on: December 19, 2016, 07:53:07 PM »
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Bernie stated that he wanted to go after white voters, and he is a nationalist (ie anti trade).
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he is white, and wanted to run on a platform of appealing to white people first, and he is a nationalist.
:ohhh

I never realized before now that Bernie Sanders was a white nationalist.

Is he alt-right?

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« Reply #6692 on: December 19, 2016, 08:38:44 PM »
I personally blame the "yaaaaas queen" crowd for the election loss.

After months of being told you were a racist, sexist traitor IDIOT for even considering voting third party......well, voting 3rd party sure looks tasty as a way to spite them.

And lord knows they have been spited

You mean we should coddle racists?  I'm sorry, I will not talk to a person who considers me subhuman.

You can be pragmatic or you can be a loser.

Stay losing
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6693 on: December 19, 2016, 08:52:38 PM »
We lost because a lot of reasons. The biggest of which were Clinton, her campaign, and DNC.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6694 on: December 19, 2016, 08:53:34 PM »
GAF treats politics like it treats the console war: it's not just about winning, it's not just about being right, it's about forcing your opponent to admit that they were wrong.

Honestly I find this to be pretty common when message boards devolve into protectionist echo chambers.


#needs-to-spend-less-time-on-internet-at-work.




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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6695 on: December 19, 2016, 09:10:45 PM »
The biggest of which were Clinton, and DNC.

Campaign is only a factor in rust-belt states. IMO, Clinton was a horrible candidate to pick (for history), and the DNC fuckery in the primaries (debate nights, mocking Sanders, etc.) turned off the Sanders base.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6696 on: December 19, 2016, 09:26:43 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226791942&postcount=59

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Sony fans attempted to hack my email. I've had people try to prevent me from finding employment because I don't like Naughty Dog games. I've got death threats for not liking Red Dead Redemption, Sony, AND Naughty Dog products.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226794162&postcount=104

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226796583&postcount=137

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Go into any safe space in the gaming side (i.e., "official threads") and you'll get a decent amount of hate if you post anything that goes against the grain. The Off-Topic forum is also pretty bad with Star Wars to be honest.

 :noooo

That is fucking insanity....

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6697 on: December 19, 2016, 10:16:35 PM »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6698 on: December 19, 2016, 10:29:46 PM »
The biggest of which were Clinton, and DNC.

Campaign is only a factor in rust-belt states. IMO, Clinton was a horrible candidate to pick (for history), and the DNC fuckery in the primaries (debate nights, mocking Sanders, etc.) turned off the Sanders base.

Even besides the rust belt they only campaigned in urban places and arrogantly thought they could take a state like fucking Arizona or Texas.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6699 on: December 19, 2016, 10:53:09 PM »
Stuff

Good stuff picking about the only pollster that actually made the claim Trump could win, but still said he was behind Clinton in a 3 point margin 3 days before the election.

For all you know, the numbers can be manipulated to paint a picture.


If you think everything is "the emails". The emails is the PTSD trigger of a public figure that has been though many presidents. As a wife and first lady, as a secretary of state... and now it all was leading to her being a president. Nope. Politicians don't actually get an increasing amount of love. In fact, many of her actions through the years still happen to be in the frontal lobes of people that happen to be around 30+ years of age.

The methodology to cope with stuff such as the Lewinsky case paint her as a very cold person. A cold person who stuck for power. Cold + power -> manipulative. For once you have a candidate that doesn't give a second thought to express how he feels like at any given moment vs the person with one of the most soul-sucking smiles on earth. Pinoccio had more soul when he was made of wood. Everything about her seems like a fabrication.

The golden medal some people are giving to politicians as if they were the best of the best. Well here's a reality check:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_honors_received_by_Hillary_Clinton

All the honors she got happen to be from the moment she was somehow involved in politics.

Having served 30 years in a job that doesn't inspire confidence to the public doesn't denote experience (as in, being the best for the job), it denotes being kneedeep into political favors.
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FStop7

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6700 on: December 19, 2016, 11:04:58 PM »
On paper Hillary was a very impressive candidate: state house, White House, Senate, Secretary of State.  But, in reality she had too much baggage and too much hubris.  In hindsight it should have been clearer that she wasn't electable when Obama beat her in 2008.  That showed how divisive she was to the Left while being pretty much uniformly loathed by the Right.  And that was before she'd picked up the additional baggage of the following 8 years.  And even then she probably would have won if she'd fought in the rust belt.  But we got who we got: the moron.  Imagine if she'd gone up against someone like Romney. 

BTW, there's a strong sentiment in Florida that Obama's dealings with Cuba cost Hillary the state.  The Cuban community was really incensed by that.
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6701 on: December 19, 2016, 11:26:54 PM »
Christ almighty, die in a fucking fire, benji. You are the dumbest motherfucker on the internet.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6702 on: December 19, 2016, 11:39:48 PM »
People actually think the emails and tinfoil conspiracies are why she lost?
NO

etiolate

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6703 on: December 20, 2016, 12:09:45 AM »
Hildog's fuck-ups with the emails were that they existed on a non-secure server, that she lied or played dumb or played incompetent(!!) about them, and then deleted them while they were under investigation. That's just like the start of the problems. On top of that, that she got out of it just made her appear more corrupt to the public. It also made her look further inept at the job she was doing at the time.

To think this is a non-scandal is derptown.

clothedmacuser

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6704 on: December 20, 2016, 12:11:10 AM »
I personally blame the "yaaaaas queen" crowd for the election loss.

After months of being told you were a racist, sexist traitor IDIOT for even considering voting third party......well, voting 3rd party sure looks tasty as a way to spite them.

And lord knows they have been spited

You mean we should coddle racists?  I'm sorry, I will not talk to a person who considers me subhuman.

You can be pragmatic or you can be a loser.

Stay losing

Then I will argue on this hill.
sigh

Syph

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6705 on: December 20, 2016, 12:31:08 AM »
lol @ thinking hillary lost solely because of the emails and not because of cockiness and just being a shitty candidate
but i agree, keep that discussion to the other thread
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bluemax

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6706 on: December 20, 2016, 01:15:25 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6707 on: December 20, 2016, 01:24:20 AM »
oh the main thread is more fun:
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Ok, I've resisted the urge to support ditching the EC in the past, but it's time. This was literally what it was created for and if it couldn't act as designed then buh-bye.
:lol

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We need to purge the extreme left from the Democratic Party.

The problem with being a party of free thinkers rather than fuckhead racist sheeple is that we get a lot of looney bin shithead free thinkers on the left who care more about principles than brown people or women or LGBTQ people.

Purge + obstinance in governing + shelling the right and vilifying them for what they are, which is racist, sexist, and stupid. That's the ticket.

So basically take Hillary's campaign and tack on about 5-10 more "basket of deplorables" moments.... :kobeyuck


I am pretty sure Obama's unifying/appeal-to-man's-better-nature rhetorical platform wouldn't pass muster with many of these Gaffers if he were a new candidate looking to run in 2020.

A harshly punitive, strict retributive model, with only passing concern for proportionality, seems to be winning out heavily with many in the GAF hive mind(and a not insignificant amount of self-proclaimed younger liberal/progressives) when it comes to all matters surrounding issues of prejudice or anything that can be assumed to be stemming from a place of prejudice.

Despite most of the platform we claim to champion being built on a foundation that is very much at odds and in disagreement with such an approach in pretty much any other facet of policy or issue concerning justice.


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6708 on: December 20, 2016, 01:25:31 AM »
Politics  :donot

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6709 on: December 20, 2016, 01:25:34 AM »
Prine

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« Reply #6710 on: December 20, 2016, 01:36:07 AM »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6711 on: December 20, 2016, 01:38:53 AM »
https://twitter.com/johncardillo/status/810473984332623872

#dealwithit

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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6712 on: December 20, 2016, 01:39:19 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
GAF doesn't really get the job hopping aspect of the industry and similar ones in the West. (And increasingly the Glorious Nippon.) Most the people they latch onto are management in some form.

Fuck, let alone all the contracting.

Syph

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6713 on: December 20, 2016, 01:43:37 AM »
Hildog's fuck-ups with the emails were that they existed on a non-secure server, that she lied or played dumb or played incompetent(!!) about them, and then deleted them while they were under investigation. That's just like the start of the problems. On top of that, that she got out of it just made her appear more corrupt to the public. It also made her look further inept at the job she was doing at the time.

To think this is a non-scandal is derptown.

She did a perfectly fine job as SoS.
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XO

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6714 on: December 20, 2016, 01:44:09 AM »
I live in one of the ocean parts and it sucks baaaaaaaaaaaaaaalls.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6715 on: December 20, 2016, 01:57:25 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
GAF doesn't really get the job hopping aspect of the industry and similar ones in the West. (And increasingly the Glorious Nippon.) Most the people they latch onto are management in some form.

Fuck, let alone all the contracting.

There's plenty of guilds and unions for what amounts to contracted, freelance work (writers, cinematographers, actors) so I don't think that's a really valid counterpoint, though being unfamiliar with the precise history of those guilds, they might have been created in the studio Golden Age, when employment was both more stable and exacting. Film industry in the US is much more concentrated in a couple of key locations too. You can't just wish it to exist, setting up an union is work.

as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.

Wouldn't you be, though, if an union already existed and membership would guarantee mandatory early wage minimums ?
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benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6716 on: December 20, 2016, 02:17:19 AM »
GAF talks about it as like "they need to form a gamemakers union" but it wouldn't be that, it'd be like Hollywood, designers, writers, programmers, artists, sound guys, etc. all negotiating separately and against one another. Only with companies that won't actually need anyone in the unions.

I'm actually quite reluctant to consider most of the film guilds to actually be unions in terms of how we would think of them for most workers much like those in the sports leagues. For reasons you mention, plus how often they waive their rules effectively so as to not alienate the stars.

The tech industries have a really strong notion of you being able to say "fuck this" and go start your own thing. Or stuff like programmers who would never abide by some union work rules. Even in "established" industries, Intel's origin is guys who split off from a split off from a special division that fled one of the largest corporations on Earth.

Could they still form unions, yeah, of course. But, I mean, who is going to want to join them and give up their personal negotiating power? Consider the tech guy who ditched Crytek to join id replacing Carmack, I imagine he got a hell of a deal that no programmers guild would have negotiated across the industry. Either that or it'd be like cases with the big directors in Hollywood who opt out of the guild. A union made up of EA, Activision and Ubisoft lifelongs/grunts isn't going to have too much negotiating power in the industry writ large.

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6717 on: December 20, 2016, 02:19:09 AM »
Though the idea of an industry-wide QA union going on strike fills me with glee.

Optimus

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6718 on: December 20, 2016, 02:19:16 AM »
oh the main thread is more fun:


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We need to purge the extreme left from the Democratic Party.

The problem with being a party of free thinkers rather than fuckhead racist sheeple is that we get a lot of looney bin shithead free thinkers on the left who care more about principles than brown people or women or LGBTQ people.

Purge + obstinance in governing + shelling the right and vilifying them for what they are, which is racist, sexist, and stupid. That's the ticket.


Can someone make sure I got the translation right, I don't speak distinguished mentally-challenged fellow well. Is he basically asking for the Democrats to double down on the same moronic strategy and start acting even more like obnoxious holier than thou shits while at the same time purging the only hope left for the party which is Sanders and progressives?

benjipwns

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6719 on: December 20, 2016, 02:19:55 AM »
If a gaming industry customer service union went on strike, would anyone notice?