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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6720 on: December 20, 2016, 02:59:03 AM »
Depends which company, some like Shittales dont have some like Blizzard have great service

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« Reply #6721 on: December 20, 2016, 03:00:34 AM »
Though the idea of an industry-wide QA union going on strike fills me with glee.

Loads of people working in QA love it, companies recruit young teens or early twenty somethings that love to stay late and get a pizza as compensation.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6722 on: December 20, 2016, 03:56:34 AM »
Decent and affordable guns available to Americans for protection?
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I used to be an owner of a few BBs and a 22 as a kid. But I'm thinking I ought to exercise my right to protect myself a tad more. This seems like a time where non-whackos need to get real. It's great to think that this new regime will have our back, but it won't.

What are some decent and reliable personal protection guns with easily accessible ammunition?

Seems insane that the left would deprive ourselves of the right to protection that the right has threatened us with for years.
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« Reply #6723 on: December 20, 2016, 04:15:28 AM »
Decent and affordable guns available to Americans for protection?
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I used to be an owner of a few BBs and a 22 as a kid. But I'm thinking I ought to exercise my right to protect myself a tad more. This seems like a time where non-whackos need to get real. It's great to think that this new regime will have our back, but it won't.

What are some decent and reliable personal protection guns with easily accessible ammunition?

Seems insane that the left would deprive ourselves of the right to protection that the right has threatened us with for years.
this will go well

Based on the OP's history it is either going to be glorious or short lived.

I don't think there is much room for a middle ground here. I do a poor job remembering posters and their personalities but I definitely remember that guy lol.




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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6724 on: December 20, 2016, 04:41:56 AM »
Decent and affordable guns available to Americans for protection?
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I used to be an owner of a few BBs and a 22 as a kid. But I'm thinking I ought to exercise my right to protect myself a tad more. This seems like a time where non-whackos need to get real. It's great to think that this new regime will have our back, but it won't.

What are some decent and reliable personal protection guns with easily accessible ammunition?

Seems insane that the left would deprive ourselves of the right to protection that the right has threatened us with for years.
this will go well
How do you protect yourself from yourself? :lol

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6725 on: December 20, 2016, 06:06:05 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226906887&postcount=747

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6726 on: December 20, 2016, 09:56:30 AM »
The truth is her campaign didn't focus on key areas or pay attention to disenfranchisement because it wasn't deemed important. After two non-establishment candidates held much favor through populist promises and enticed the masses, Hillary decided to turn a blind eye and conduct business as usual, completely ignoring them. Hillary assumed  that minorities and states would vote for her and established a campaign that completely crumpled over an anti-establishment figure.  She also assumed that those enticed by her primary opponent's populist ideas would fall in line. What was the rhetoric? "Berniebros and third-party voters think they matter? lol, we're not pandering or giving attention to you!" And that narrative was interwoven throughout media that relies on constant clicks from that base. Yet, despite this supposedly not mattering, look at all the talk of damage to the DNC and the long road to unity.

 What y'all fail to realize is that when you're campaigning you explicitly project what you need to get votes. The whole point of campaigning is pandering and using strategic moves that will get you to win the vote. Like, PoliGAF types are quick to say "why should we lower ourselves to talk to them?" Well, so you can get elected and run through a presidency with policies/a platform that is on your side? Hillary not talking about 'jeerrbbss' was praised in that circle as a gotcha to racists and xenophobes. It wasn't painted as incompetency and not engaging a disenfranchised crowd that had a lot of affinity to her opponent's words. It was just a complete lack of strategy.

But she beat Bernie by so much in Alabama and Mississippi!
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6727 on: December 20, 2016, 11:40:29 AM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226886737&postcount=44

The nintardery in his post triggers me.

NOT ON WII NOT ON WII NOT ON WII NOT WII

Go buy a Playstation like everyone else.  :doge
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6728 on: December 20, 2016, 12:11:25 PM »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6729 on: December 20, 2016, 12:14:47 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226886737&postcount=44

The nintardery in his post triggers me.
clicked, saw avatar, saw wall of itemized text, closed tab.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6730 on: December 20, 2016, 01:18:49 PM »
Still with the "But whyyyyyy didn't they release X on the Wii???!?! :(:(:(:("

After 10 years, still not getting that it would have been a waste of time and resources.  :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6732 on: December 20, 2016, 03:28:04 PM »
Blizzard reveals the gay character in Overwatch they hinted at in a Christmas Comic.

http://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/tracer-reflections

Concern thread because "Are there too many hot lesbians in games?" :cac

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326843

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6733 on: December 20, 2016, 03:28:33 PM »
NSDAP was in Austrian elections?

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« Reply #6734 on: December 20, 2016, 04:06:32 PM »
Blizzard reveals the gay character in Overwatch they hinted at in a Christmas Comic.

http://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us/tracer-reflections

Concern thread because "Are there too many hot lesbians in games?" :cac

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326843

Wow, everyone in that thread is really smart!
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6735 on: December 20, 2016, 04:07:56 PM »
It's kinda sad tho that fucking Mortal Kombat X has the best gay male representation of any million+ selling game.

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« Reply #6736 on: December 20, 2016, 04:22:10 PM »
Whos gay in MK?

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« Reply #6737 on: December 20, 2016, 04:22:19 PM »
Nick Cage?

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« Reply #6738 on: December 20, 2016, 04:24:30 PM »
I bet its Nick Cage

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6739 on: December 20, 2016, 04:28:17 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326852 Nerds have got to be the most bitter and least empathetic group of all.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6740 on: December 20, 2016, 04:30:18 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326781

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Sony fanboys are much like republican politicians in that they're able to deftly keep to message with nary a blip in posting style. My fave is that they can no longer can say just PS4 it has to constantly referred to as PS4 Pro.

I've got to admire that kind of dedication to the cause. One of the holdovers that we'll see from the bish era is the amount of Playstation 'MVP's' on gaf who don't tell anyone who they are when posting shill threads.

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« Reply #6741 on: December 20, 2016, 04:41:42 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326781

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Sony fanboys are much like republicans they are alble to smoothly keop to message

Notice how the very hardcore of fanboys no longer can say just PS4

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6742 on: December 20, 2016, 04:48:17 PM »
Never talk shit about Teddy Riley.  Never.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6743 on: December 20, 2016, 04:48:49 PM »
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6744 on: December 20, 2016, 05:12:33 PM »
Never talk shit about Teddy Riley.  Never.

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It's called the rump shaker, the beats is like sweeter than candy
I'm feelin' manly and your shaker's comin' in handy
Slide em across from new york down by your Virginia
Ticklin' you around Delaware before I enter
Turn to seduction from face hips to feet
A wiggle and a jiggle can make the night complete
Now since you got the body of the year, come and get the award
Here's a hint, it's like a long sharp sword

Damm the song was smartly subtly nasty than I realized. I was always more focused on the video.

 :obama

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6745 on: December 20, 2016, 05:32:29 PM »
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=226936831&postcount=10

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All I can think of when I hear this song is the episode of Psych after Abby leaves Shaun and he sets this to his ringtone and eats corn nuts


This is what you think of when you hear Rump Shaker.....

THE VIDEO IS RIGHT THERE! THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE THINKING OF!!!!!

 >:(

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6746 on: December 20, 2016, 05:47:56 PM »
It's kinda sad tho that fucking Mortal Kombat X has the best gay male representation of any million+ selling game.

Reading the Christmas comic, I took it as implied that Winston is gay. Then again, I don't follow Overwatch's canon or anything, so I might be reading into that photo too much as a troll on fanboys. But it would be a delicious shitstorm if the human-ape was banging an actual human. Just imagine that.

https://twitter.com/Sprite37/status/811321198520864768

https://twitter.com/a_ajiru/status/811331522502348800

And the :kermiT one:

https://twitter.com/TheMarcStone/status/811310903094284288

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6747 on: December 20, 2016, 05:55:48 PM »
It's kinda sad tho that fucking Mortal Kombat X has the best gay male representation of any million+ selling game.


Bill was pretty dope tho.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6748 on: December 20, 2016, 05:59:25 PM »
It's kinda sad tho that fucking Mortal Kombat X has the best gay male representation of any million+ selling game.

Reading the Christmas comic, I took it as implied that Winston is gay. Then again, I don't follow Overwatch's canon or anything, so I might be reading into that photo too much as a troll on fanboys. But it would be a delicious shitstorm if the human-ape was banging an actual human. Just imagine that.

And the :kermiT one:

IIRC that dude in the picture is the scientist guy that raised him.

Well, imagine if he had a daddy complex for that dude, then. :lol :lol :lol

I just want Winston to be gay for the sake of racism and homophobia shitstorm drama.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6749 on: December 20, 2016, 06:01:36 PM »
Didn't they kinda bring it on themselves though, a lot of the "fanart" is her fucking Widowmaker?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6750 on: December 20, 2016, 06:06:15 PM »
Didn't they kinda bring it on themselves though, a lot of the "fanart" is her fucking Widowmaker?

That's what I said on a gay subreddit: Her being gay isn't progressive as it doesn't rock the boat for straight men. "Oh, a lesbian!" doesn't stop them from trying to "convert" her. The real progression would've been choosing a male, it would've caused a huge shitstorm though (beyond the Waifu-figs for Tracer anyway that are pissed that their Waifu NEVER EVER them's sexual advances) so they played it safe.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6751 on: December 20, 2016, 06:08:15 PM »
That never stops waifu fegs, when they find out their waifu is gay it's actually kinda depressing/horrifying.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6752 on: December 20, 2016, 06:08:48 PM »
Sadly. :fbm Overwatch's fanbase will always confuse me. The sexual shipping while never really talking about the game.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6753 on: December 20, 2016, 06:14:24 PM »
The people most into talking about Overwatch sexuality never play the game, they latch onto it like leaches

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6754 on: December 20, 2016, 06:23:00 PM »
ὕβρις

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« Reply #6755 on: December 20, 2016, 06:30:33 PM »

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6756 on: December 20, 2016, 06:40:56 PM »
Didn't they kinda bring it on themselves though, a lot of the "fanart" is her fucking Widowmaker?

That's what I said on a gay subreddit: Her being gay isn't progressive as it doesn't rock the boat for straight men. "Oh, a lesbian!" doesn't stop them from trying to "convert" her. The real progression would've been choosing a male, it would've caused a huge shitstorm though (beyond the Waifu-figs for Tracer anyway that are pissed that their Waifu NEVER EVER them's sexual advances) so they played it safe.

Yep.  People praise the WB for all their allowing gay characters, but male gay folk don't really exist in popular media and likely won't for awhile.  It skeeves out the main demographic after all: Straight young men. 

Straight young women would be ALL OVER it though.
I know because I read too much fanfiction.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6757 on: December 20, 2016, 06:44:15 PM »
Okay. Tracer is gay. Will still look like that while the other girl is 80 years old. Feels like a bad ending for me.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6758 on: December 20, 2016, 06:49:50 PM »
Okay. Tracer is gay. Will still look like that while the other girl is 80 years old. Feels like a bad ending for me.

Maybe her girl is into young girls (badly worded pause). Don't time-shame! :wag :wag :wag

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6759 on: December 20, 2016, 06:50:55 PM »
let's have a dialog about no jail time for high schooler who kicked coat hanger up teammates rectum

surely there will be many conversations to have about no jail time for high schooler who kicked coat hanger up teammates rectum

what do you think about no jail time for high schooler who kicked coat hanger up teammates rectum
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6760 on: December 20, 2016, 06:53:15 PM »
care about Bilzzard storylines breh

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6761 on: December 20, 2016, 07:42:28 PM »
Do straight guys really get upset when they find out a hot videogame woman is gay? Is that a thing that happens?
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6762 on: December 20, 2016, 07:49:07 PM »
Do straight guys really get upset when they find out a hot videogame woman is gay? Is that a thing that happens?

Waifu culture breh.


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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6763 on: December 20, 2016, 07:51:09 PM »
Do straight guys really get upset when they find out a hot videogame woman is gay? Is that a thing that happens?

Waifu culture breh.

I would still waifu Tracer. :lawd
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6764 on: December 20, 2016, 08:19:38 PM »
I called it quits on PSVR

 :drudge

People trying to convince him to keep it and that his wrong  :lol

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6765 on: December 20, 2016, 08:57:45 PM »
have a few mates i play overwatch with. it's alright, TF2 via deviantart. what's bad is whenever one of them gets a new loot box and any game talk is derailed by 15 minute deep dives into which specific dress they want to put on their virtual doll.

shit is dulllllll.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6767 on: December 20, 2016, 09:08:02 PM »
https://heatst.com/tech/youtuber-onision-runs-creepy-forum-where-young-teenage-girls-post-photos-in-their-underwear/


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Onision tells the girls that they should lose or gain weight, as part of helping them attain what he says is the ideal body type so they can feel good about themselves.

Even without reading anything else, fuck this piece of shit.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6768 on: December 20, 2016, 09:56:36 PM »
Didn't they kinda bring it on themselves though, a lot of the "fanart" is her fucking Widowmaker?

That's what I said on a gay subreddit: Her being gay isn't progressive as it doesn't rock the boat for straight men. "Oh, a lesbian!" doesn't stop them from trying to "convert" her. The real progression would've been choosing a male, it would've caused a huge shitstorm though (beyond the Waifu-figs for Tracer anyway that are pissed that their Waifu NEVER EVER them's sexual advances) so they played it safe.

Yep.  People praise the WB for all their allowing gay characters, but male gay folk don't really exist in popular media and likely won't for awhile.  It skeeves out the main demographic after all: Straight young men. 

Straight young women would be ALL OVER it though.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6769 on: December 20, 2016, 10:14:25 PM »
The really weird kid that Idubbbzz is friends with? :kobeyuck
Nah. I'm pretty sure that's another guy.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6770 on: December 20, 2016, 10:21:26 PM »
Do straight guys really get upset when they find out a hot videogame woman is gay? Is that a thing that happens?

I couldn't give less of a shit about it.

But on gaf there'll always be a battle over the most pointless bullshit they cling onto in the name of being "progressive".

There's also the "Why do people use sexy images for their wallpapers/avatars?" thread. I was tempted to just post "cuz I fucking can." but decided to just not bother posting because I can see OP had ate too many paint chips in their youth.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6771 on: December 20, 2016, 11:14:01 PM »
Did I see a thread theorizing that the Switch is going to be $199? :neogaf
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6772 on: December 20, 2016, 11:17:23 PM »
Did I see a thread theorizing that the Switch is going to be $199? :neogaf

Given the weak hardware that price seems reasonable :doge

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6773 on: December 20, 2016, 11:23:07 PM »
The Switch is a BDSM kink tool



and so is a flexible piece of wood

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6774 on: December 20, 2016, 11:45:27 PM »
Did I see a thread theorizing that the Switch is going to be $199? :neogaf
"Given the lack of power and Nintendo's family oriented business model, I believe the Switch will cost $149.99. Nintendo understands that many of their fans can't afford the more expensive consoles and they have always supported families."

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6775 on: December 20, 2016, 11:49:45 PM »
$200 would be great. Their cheapest price at launch since the GameCube (NES, SNES and N64 were priced the same, too.)

Wii was $250 (with WiiSports) and Wii U was $300-350 (with Nintendoland at the latter price.) :doge

If the $200 price is indicative of the Switch being more like the non-Wii systems I'm on board, haha.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6776 on: December 21, 2016, 12:01:40 AM »
Didn't they kinda bring it on themselves though, a lot of the "fanart" is her fucking Widowmaker?

That's what I said on a gay subreddit: Her being gay isn't progressive as it doesn't rock the boat for straight men. "Oh, a lesbian!" doesn't stop them from trying to "convert" her. The real progression would've been choosing a male, it would've caused a huge shitstorm though (beyond the Waifu-figs for Tracer anyway that are pissed that their Waifu NEVER EVER them's sexual advances) so they played it safe.

Yep.  People praise the WB for all their allowing gay characters, but male gay folk don't really exist in popular media and likely won't for awhile.  It skeeves out the main demographic after all: Straight young men. 

Straight young women would be ALL OVER it though.
I know because I read too much fanfiction.

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I very much know what's up. If  Johnlock or Destiel were ever made canon, the publicity alone would carry the WB and the BBC respectively for months. In the case of Destiel, the utter freak outs from the scary J2/wincest crowd would be hilarious and completely  worth it.

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6777 on: December 21, 2016, 12:18:36 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
GAF doesn't really get the job hopping aspect of the industry and similar ones in the West. (And increasingly the Glorious Nippon.) Most the people they latch onto are management in some form.

Fuck, let alone all the contracting.

There's plenty of guilds and unions for what amounts to contracted, freelance work (writers, cinematographers, actors) so I don't think that's a really valid counterpoint, though being unfamiliar with the precise history of those guilds, they might have been created in the studio Golden Age, when employment was both more stable and exacting. Film industry in the US is much more concentrated in a couple of key locations too. You can't just wish it to exist, setting up an union is work.

as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.

Wouldn't you be, though, if an union already existed and membership would guarantee mandatory early wage minimums ?

But games aren't all made on with the same financial model, especially not these days and they aren't nearly as easy to compartmentalize as manufacturing or film. That's the thing that I feel like people don't understand about software development. You can't subdivide things in the same way you can with other stuff, no matter how much six sigma black belts and scrum masters try.

Though the idea of an industry-wide QA union going on strike fills me with glee.

Loads of people working in QA love it, companies recruit young teens or early twenty somethings that love to stay late and get a pizza as compensation.

This model is kind of dying except at the Activisions of the world that can just throw bodies at the problem. One of the things that has made its way in to game development (especially with the rise of mobile, and persistent games in general) are the need for more skilled QA capable of automation and doing more than just running a character into a wall until they crash.
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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6778 on: December 21, 2016, 12:22:55 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
GAF doesn't really get the job hopping aspect of the industry and similar ones in the West. (And increasingly the Glorious Nippon.) Most the people they latch onto are management in some form.

Fuck, let alone all the contracting.

There's plenty of guilds and unions for what amounts to contracted, freelance work (writers, cinematographers, actors) so I don't think that's a really valid counterpoint, though being unfamiliar with the precise history of those guilds, they might have been created in the studio Golden Age, when employment was both more stable and exacting. Film industry in the US is much more concentrated in a couple of key locations too. You can't just wish it to exist, setting up an union is work.

as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.

Wouldn't you be, though, if an union already existed and membership would guarantee mandatory early wage minimums ?

But games aren't all made on with the same financial model, especially not these days and they aren't nearly as easy to compartmentalize as manufacturing or film. That's the thing that I feel like people don't understand about software development. You can't subdivide things in the same way you can with other stuff, no matter how much six sigma black belts and scrum masters try.

But a union would be able to mandate set hours of work and overtime/crunch to not be overwhelming for employees. Employees would be able to see their kids and a union would be able to at least try to help the folks in the industry find another job/hop to another job as a safety net if a studio goes belly up, wouldn't it?

I mean think of it this way: Wouldn't you want to prevent another EA_Spouse (which is thankfully better than it was but still bad in terms of working conditions for folks in the industry), and forgetting the article where this guy blindly chased the industry while his kids were growing up, having to move around like military brats AND budget like hell because he wasn't making enough/having a stable job?

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Re: Safe-space hugbox thread
« Reply #6779 on: December 21, 2016, 12:34:18 AM »
Every time there's a thread about anything employment related with the games industry Gaffers get all pro union: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1326489 as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.
GAF doesn't really get the job hopping aspect of the industry and similar ones in the West. (And increasingly the Glorious Nippon.) Most the people they latch onto are management in some form.

Fuck, let alone all the contracting.

There's plenty of guilds and unions for what amounts to contracted, freelance work (writers, cinematographers, actors) so I don't think that's a really valid counterpoint, though being unfamiliar with the precise history of those guilds, they might have been created in the studio Golden Age, when employment was both more stable and exacting. Film industry in the US is much more concentrated in a couple of key locations too. You can't just wish it to exist, setting up an union is work.

as someone who works in the games industry I don't really understand it and no one I ever worked with was interested in a union.

Wouldn't you be, though, if an union already existed and membership would guarantee mandatory early wage minimums ?

But games aren't all made on with the same financial model, especially not these days and they aren't nearly as easy to compartmentalize as manufacturing or film. That's the thing that I feel like people don't understand about software development. You can't subdivide things in the same way you can with other stuff, no matter how much six sigma black belts and scrum masters try.

But a union would be able to mandate set hours of work and overtime/crunch to not be overwhelming for employees. Employees would be able to see their kids and a union would be able to at least try to help the folks in the industry find another job/hop to another job as a safety net if a studio goes belly up, wouldn't it?

I mean think of it this way: Wouldn't you want to prevent another EA_Spouse (which is thankfully better than it was but still bad in terms of working conditions for folks in the industry), and forgetting the article where this guy blindly chased the industry while his kids were growing up, having to move around like military brats AND budget like hell because he wasn't making enough/having a stable job?

How would a union do that though? It's hard enough getting through recruiters and HR people to talk to someone who understands what I do know how to do and what I don't know how to do,  at least I have the power to represent myself and control the information that is used to determine if I get a job. If you take that away and only some union person knows, how am I supposed to trust them? Do I still get to choose to work for smaller studios more focused on creativity or does everything turn into a Ubisoft style assembly line?
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