Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP (Read 2971244 times)

Mandark · « **Reply #14700 on:** February 20, 2018, 06:57:00 PM »

There's definitely a War Dogs/Thank You For Smoking style movie in the Manafort biography.

Nintex · « **Reply #14701 on:** February 20, 2018, 07:49:21 PM »

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/966098911634034688
yasss the fuckery continues.

#teamfuckery

Nola · « **Reply #14702 on:** February 20, 2018, 07:56:13 PM »

Democrats just won another special election, this time in Kentucky, in a district Trump won by nearly 50 points.

It's a bit of an odd one, in that the previous winner, the Republican, apparently committed suicide after allegations of sexual assault of a 17 year old came to light, so his wife ran to replace him, and the winner, Linda Belcher, had held that same seat at one time before. So in context it's not that crazy. Still, it is the 39th special election seat since Nov 16 to flip red to blue, compared to the 5 seats that flipped blue to red.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/htmlview?sle=true#

benjipwns · « **Reply #14703 on:** February 20, 2018, 08:26:18 PM »

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/20/politics/kfile-hhs-social-media-postings/

Boredfrom · « **Reply #14704 on:** February 20, 2018, 08:58:09 PM »

Quote from: Nola on February 20, 2018, 07:56:13 PM

Democrats just won another special election, this time in Kentucky, in a district Trump won by nearly 50 points.

It's a bit of an odd one, in that the previous winner, the Republican, apparently committed suicide after allegations of sexual assault of a 17 year old came to light, so his wife ran to replace him, and the winner, Linda Belcher, had held that same seat at one time before. So in context it's not that crazy. Still, it is the 39th special election seat since Nov 16 to flip red to blue, compared to the 5 seats that flipped blue to red.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C2MVeM2K7WgqmJw5RCQbWyTo2u73CX1pI8zw_G-7BJo/htmlview?sle=true#

I guess the voters were not thrilled of learning that they voted for a rapist.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14705 on:** February 21, 2018, 11:21:49 AM »

https://gizmodo.com/conservative-twitter-users-lose-thousands-of-followers-1823185428

Mandark · « **Reply #14706 on:** February 21, 2018, 11:26:36 AM »

Damn millenials obsessed with social network validation.

kingv · « **Reply #14707 on:** February 21, 2018, 01:38:54 PM »

New charges on Manafort... though specifics are under seal.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14708 on:** February 21, 2018, 02:11:06 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 21, 2018, 11:26:36 AM

Damn millenials obsessed with social network validation.

Literally mad their russian bot followers can't help them spread their bullshit.

Nintex · « **Reply #14709 on:** February 21, 2018, 04:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Brehvolution on February 21, 2018, 11:21:49 AM

https://gizmodo.com/conservative-twitter-users-lose-thousands-of-followers-1823185428

Noticed this too.

@murkyblurperNazi343 and @WashingtonGOP_er really weren't Russian bots. They were my best FRIENDS!

This is the best

thehunter116 · « **Reply #14710 on:** February 21, 2018, 05:16:42 PM »

Won't somebody think of the Russian Bots!

Nintex · « **Reply #14711 on:** February 21, 2018, 05:50:01 PM »

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/966437427748462599

Just arm the teachers

Other than that he handled this as well as you can expect Donald Fucking Trump to handle situations like this
https://youtu.be/0-6Co6geSw8?t=2835

FStop7 · « **Reply #14712 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:07:03 PM »

I don't suppose anyone called him out over his son retweeting claims that those kids were paid actors.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #14713 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:19:13 PM »

I can think of so many teachers that I would have been terrified of if they were armed

Shit, I know people my age who teach that definitely should not be armed

Nintex · « **Reply #14714 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:22:52 PM »

Don't worry, there will be armed veterans fucked up from 4 tours in Iraq to shoot the teacher should anything go wrong
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/966436343961268225

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #14715 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:23:29 PM »

How about we just cut the training middleman and just only employ hunters or gun hobbyists as teachers from now on?

Nintex · « **Reply #14716 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:25:18 PM »

Quote from: Skullfuckers Anonymous on February 21, 2018, 06:23:29 PM

How about we just cut the training middleman and just only employ hunters or gun hobbyists as teachers from now on?

How about just legalizing battle royale Fridays so everyone gets an equal opportunity to kill each other.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14717 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:28:03 PM »

So will the teachers have to buy their own gun (alongside other school supplies

), or will they be provided for by the school? If a teacher accidentally shoots a student, is the school liable? Is the state liable? Who pays for the training?

There are hundreds of schools in the nation that struggle providing basic amenities like...heat, air conditioning and water. And you would have me believe they can provide guns, ammunition, and self defense training to teachers? Or that congress, which regularly cuts education funding, is going to provide it?

Stro · « **Reply #14718 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:28:16 PM »

Cutting out the middleman would be giving all the students guns, and the good students could kill the bad students before the bad students could kill the good students.

Boredfrom · « **Reply #14719 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:30:14 PM »

I love that they ended it when the Sandy Hook parent spoke on how useless was the arming the teachers.

Arming teachers is such a moronic idea.

That said, at least Trump had the good sense of not namedroping political opponents.

Nintex · « **Reply #14720 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:31:39 PM »

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/966115261282639872

wat

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #14721 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:33:51 PM »

Why not just line the walls of the school with guns and ammo, that way anyone can help

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #14722 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:39:24 PM »

Another idea I had was making it a requirement for students to wear shock collars that are controller by the administration staff and if a school shooter is detected they can activate it for all students until the police get there and figure out what is happening.

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2018, 06:28:03 PM

So will the teachers have to buy their own gun (alongside other school supplies ), or will they be provided for by the school? If a teacher accidentally shoots a student, is the school liable? Is the state liable? Who pays for the training?

There are hundreds of schools in the nation that struggle providing basic amenities like...heat, air conditioning and water. And you would have me believe they can provide guns, ammunition, and self defense training to teachers? Or that congress, which regularly cuts education funding, is going to provide it?

If teachers want to continue to be employed they should pay out of their own pockets to get gun training, guns, and ammo. No more free rides for public school teachers!!!

Boredfrom · « **Reply #14723 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:44:39 PM »

Does he think everyone is fucking Deadshoot and being able to kill someone with a automatic rifle with a handgun?

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #14724 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:52:13 PM »

If only teachers were armed when Trump was smacking them around as a youth

shosta · « **Reply #14725 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:53:42 PM »

Let me be as serious as I possibly can. I am not willing to risk the long term psychological, social, and even ethical development of students for the small possibility of preventing a mass shooting by turning their place of growth and learning into a mass surveillance prison system. It is terrifying to me in the deepest sense. What kind of damage are you doing to people by instilling in them on a daily basis that their lives are in danger at every second?

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #14726 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:54:48 PM »

What are you referring to?

shosta · « **Reply #14727 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:56:24 PM »

Nintex's tweet.

Skullfuckers Anonymous · « **Reply #14728 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:59:46 PM »

Quote from: Boredfrom on February 21, 2018, 06:44:39 PM

Does he think everyone is fucking Deadshoot and being able to kill someone with a automatic rifle with a handgun?

I'm pretty sure he got Navy Seal level training when he created Trump Guns™ ("The World's Greatest Guns"). I want to go back to the pre-Obama America where I could walk into a Sharper Image and buy a gun without a background check.

Quote from: Shostakovich on February 21, 2018, 06:53:42 PM

Let me be as serious as I possibly can. I am not willing to risk the long term psychological, social, and even ethical development of students for the small possibility of preventing a mass shooting by turning their place of growth and learning into a mass surveillance prison system. It is terrifying to me in the deepest sense.

Since they'll be living in a mass surveillance prison system when they grow up, shouldn't we be preparing them for the real world?

Rufus · « **Reply #14729 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:01:22 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on February 21, 2018, 06:53:42 PM

Let me be as serious as I possibly can. I am not willing to risk the long term psychological, social, and even ethical development of students for the small possibility of preventing a mass shooting by turning their place of growth and learning into a mass surveillance prison system. It is terrifying to me in the deepest sense. What kind of damage are you doing to people by instilling in them on a daily basis that their lives are in danger at every second?

One where people will talk about anything but limiting access to firearms, I guess.

Nintex · « **Reply #14730 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:03:01 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on February 21, 2018, 06:53:42 PM

Let me be as serious as I possibly can. I am not willing to risk the long term psychological, social, and even ethical development of students for the small possibility of preventing a mass shooting by turning their place of growth and learning into a mass surveillance prison system. It is terrifying to me in the deepest sense. What kind of damage are you doing to people by instilling in them on a daily basis that their lives are in danger at every second?

They're just training them for the dystopian corporate office spaces of the future.

Mandark · « **Reply #14731 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:15:13 PM »

"Give guns to teachers" is a straight-up galaxy brain meme idea.

shosta · « **Reply #14732 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:15:22 PM »

Quote from: Nintex on February 21, 2018, 07:03:01 PM

They're just training them for the dystopian corporate office spaces of the future.

You joke, but, even if it's not intentional and I don't think it is, administrators are totally priming an entire generation of people for things that would be totally unthinkable to us now. I don't know if people remember the cold war drills in schools but even those weren't as bad as this. And in fact we've maintained cold war drills in the absence of nuclear threat by renaming them to earthquake drills and school shooter drills which were really communist invasion drills. Want to know the origin of school drills? Read about this mock Soviet insurrection and you'll figure it out.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/columnists/on-wisconsin-communism-for-a-day-a-may-day-remembered/article_3d4b3e75-1649-5396-b682-3c192509dd83.html
So, you know, don't underestimate the school as a place for indoctrination. Or conditioning. Or dehumanization.

seagrams hotsauce · « **Reply #14733 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:33:25 PM »

I think teenagers would have to actually give a shit about anything their school administration tells them before that kind of line of propaganda would move the needle towards indoctrinating the youth of America. And not for nothing, but many high schools can be pretty dehumanizing already, and that's without the budget to blow on useless paranoiac fantasy bullshit like in that NBC video.

Boredfrom · « **Reply #14734 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:34:10 PM »

Eh, we have earthquakes drills here. They are useful.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14735 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:35:35 PM »

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Mandark · « **Reply #14736 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:47:02 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2018, 07:35:35 PM

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Or the first time a teacher panics and shoots a kid, cause they think they're reaching for something.

Been told for the last five years that police shootings are split-second life-or-death decisions made under extreme duress, that even with the use of weapons being an integral part of their training and profession it is still so difficult that they should almost never be punished for fucking up. The same people are now suggesting we arm and essentially deputize the entire workforce of teachers and that it will be fine, cause they'll have a 16 hour handgun safety course or whatever.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #14737 on:** February 21, 2018, 07:49:26 PM »

Arming the teachers is a great idea, since now school shooters won't even have to bring their own gun they can just beat up a teacher and take theirs!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #14738 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:11:06 PM »

Don’t worry, it’s not like they’re gonna give schools the money to actually pay for this dumbass idea.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #14739 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:23:59 PM »

Look, you want some gun control? The answer is simple. Have a few black guys go on a mass shooting spree white boy style. The moment that starts happening regularly, boom, you get gun control laws.

shosta · « **Reply #14740 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:32:11 PM »

A black guy killed five police officers in Dallas during a peaceful BLM demonstration of all things and they passed a law letting people carry guns onto college campuses.

I'm a Puppy! · « **Reply #14741 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:35:12 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on February 21, 2018, 08:32:11 PM

A black guy killed five police officers in Dallas during a peaceful BLM demonstration of all things and they passed a law letting people carry guns onto college campuses.

Let me qualify that.

Schools or Country music or conservative gatherings. Trust me, enough of these from black guys even the NRA is going to be like "Well....maybe we don't really need those AR-15s"

Mupepe · « **Reply #14742 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:46:50 PM »

Quote from: Shostakovich on February 21, 2018, 08:32:11 PM

A black guy killed five police officers in Dallas during a peaceful BLM demonstration of all things and they passed a law letting people carry guns onto college campuses.

Not that I disagree with the suggestion that they’re crazy but campus carry was signed into law over a year before the Dallas shootings.

Mandark · « **Reply #14743 on:** February 21, 2018, 08:57:56 PM »

https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/966486247433818112

kingv · « **Reply #14744 on:** February 21, 2018, 09:14:59 PM »

Remember that dumb mother fucker that was standing outside of the schools pretending to be a marine after Sandy Hook to protect his school?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14745 on:** February 21, 2018, 09:53:45 PM »

Rubio

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14746 on:** February 21, 2018, 10:52:26 PM »

Listening to this town hall, Dana Loesch is claiming that the NRA fully supports the Baker Act and other means of preventing mentally ill people from acquiring a gun strikes me as ducktales. I can't fathom conservatives supporting the ability of the state to visit your home, arrest you, take you to a state run institution to be mentally evaluated, and then take away your guns based on the decision of that institution.

Nola · « **Reply #14747 on:** February 22, 2018, 12:27:34 AM »

The NRA has been playing that game for decades now it seems.

"We support the law, why don't people enforce the laws on the books?!!"......"Are people done looking? Now hold my gun while we push these pieces of legislation through our subservient reps that undercut the enforcement capability of the laws on the books."

...Oh ATF? You have 370,000 inquiries to trace the registration origin of a firearm requested by local law enforcement officers? Ok, lets cap your budget so you have enough for only 50 employees(fight to the death if you try to add much additional funding) and lets see how you do without any sort of searchable database. If they deviate even a slight smidgen from that ridiculous forced beuracracy, you get assholes like Andrew Napolitano riling up the nutters about the ATF collecting a master list and coming for your guns if Hillary is elected. Which the NRA then uses to pass around their mailing list. But sure, they support all the laws on the books.

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #14748 on:** February 22, 2018, 01:26:33 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1673106006090212&id=267418773793101

Tasty · « **Reply #14749 on:** February 22, 2018, 01:42:34 AM »

Quote from: Cindi Mayweather on February 22, 2018, 01:26:33 AM

https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1673106006090212&id=267418773793101

OK, so go vote conservative...

Freyj · « **Reply #14750 on:** February 22, 2018, 02:48:30 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2018, 07:35:35 PM

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Or arming deputies to patrol the schools. Weeks at max before another Tamir Rice.

bluemax · « **Reply #14751 on:** February 22, 2018, 03:02:27 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2018, 07:35:35 PM

And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Philando Castile was a school employee who had a concealed carry permit and he got shot to death by a cop, so yeah.

Nola · « **Reply #14752 on:** February 22, 2018, 03:17:37 AM »

Quote from: bluemax on February 22, 2018, 03:02:27 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 21, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
And when the first (probably black) teacher gets shot by SWAT, who didn't know he was a Good Guy With A Gun instead of the school shooter, I look forward to Dana Loesch explaining why he'd still be alive if he had simply followed the proper techniques of "having a gun out when SWAT is in the area."

Philando Castile was a school employee who had a concealed carry permit and he got shot to death by a cop, so yeah.

You could throw Tamir Rice and John Crawford III in that number as well. Both people killed by cops in open carry states where they did nothing wrong except being black in front of twitchy white people. Like Philando, people that all seemed to not get any defense from Cindi's NRA despite operating completely within the bounds of the law... I often wonder what they all have in common for why there was such silence?

Maybe Deneen Borelli - who I am sure genuinely cares about the Democratic partiies failings in addressing pressing black issues - has some thoughts on these obvious hypocrisies?

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #14753 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:38:53 AM »

The NRA picked an inflammatory lady with little debate and career politician Marco Rubio to defend the 2A in a rigged CNN “townhall”? Lol. People in Florida please kick his ass out and vote for someone who will fight for the 2A without concession. NRA donators should be well and very pissed. I swear we need the Second Amendment Foundation on this rather than those incompetent asshats at NRA.
I need to send in SAF a lifetime membership at this point.

NRA should have sent Colion. No idea what those people are thinking.

Lovely hearing people cheer for a semi auto ban. “No one is coming for your guns!” Lmao. Always some stiff pencil neck lib who says,”ban military grade semi auto guns!” without having the knowledge to know that almost all modern guns are semi auto. Which makes their “we don’t want to take all guns just semiauto” raise even higher eye brows. As for military grade, Glock 19 for example, one of the most common and popular handguns, is used by Corps operatives aka “military grade.” Sig Sauer P320 is Army pistol standard issue. Sig is my favorite brand. Semi auto. “Military grade”. But no, military grade means big and scary rifle apparently.

I am saving up for an AR15 and if there comes a ban I will refuse to turn mine in. I really dream of taking a vacation and going to a range in Colorado during a nice, thick snow and using a sniper rifle, MGS style. That would be a fun date!

Cindi Mayweather · « **Reply #14754 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:47:43 AM »

Also good on Trump for saying to get rid of gun free zones! It’s good he endorsed armed teachers as well. Let’s see if he sticks to his word.

Given my lower RX cost yesterday and my higher paycheck due to tax break I’m betting he might be true to that word.

curly · « **Reply #14755 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:57:22 AM »

curly · « **Reply #14756 on:** February 22, 2018, 05:01:23 AM »

Arming teachers is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard

team filler · « **Reply #14757 on:** February 22, 2018, 06:01:12 AM »

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155707134161939/

Trent Dole · « **Reply #14758 on:** February 22, 2018, 06:12:40 AM »

Quote from: Dufus on February 22, 2018, 05:03:40 AM

What the FUUUUUUUUUCK at the notes thing during a meet with the victims.

Stro · « **Reply #14759 on:** February 22, 2018, 06:40:37 AM »

I think I'm ready for Cindi to swing back to extreme liberal weirdo

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