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« Reply #3961 on: February 25, 2017, 04:46:18 PM »
Bernie stans throwing a hissy fit because he's not Ellison and they have no idea who Perez is (a liberal whom they most likely agree with on many issues BUT HE'S NOT ELLISON WAH WAH, BABY WANT BOTTLE, BABY WANT BOTTLE!!111).

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« Reply #3962 on: February 25, 2017, 05:05:26 PM »
More Bernie vs Obama imo. Looked like an easy win for Ellison until Obama people started pushing Perez hard.

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« Reply #3963 on: February 25, 2017, 05:12:46 PM »
Bernie stans throwing a hissy fit because he's not Ellison and they have no idea who Perez is (a liberal whom they most likely agree with on many issues BUT HE'S NOT ELLISON WAH WAH, BABY WANT BOTTLE, BABY WANT BOTTLE!!111).

What is telling is that skimming GAF or Reddit or Twitter, the objections are purely identity based and not rooted in any sort of legitimate policy or organizational vision gripes.

Both candidates were by and large the same, just one guy had Bernie's blessing because Bernie was reciprocating Ellisons earlier blessing and the other side had Biden and Obama dems because of their connection. But somehow a liberal ideologue vs a liberal ideologue with only minor marginal differences got turned into Hillary vs Bernie again.

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« Reply #3965 on: February 25, 2017, 06:54:45 PM »
Ok that's a pretty good troll

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« Reply #3966 on: February 25, 2017, 08:53:43 PM »
Ellison still named Deputy Chair
enjoy 8 years of Trump
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« Reply #3967 on: February 25, 2017, 10:37:41 PM »
If he survives the first four, yeah. If he gets thrown out Pence isn't going to win a second term.
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« Reply #3968 on: February 25, 2017, 10:58:07 PM »
If he survives the first four, yeah. If he gets thrown out Pence isn't going to win a second term.

Shit man, look at how much he's aged from the start of the campaign to today. He's already noticeably aged.

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« Reply #3969 on: February 26, 2017, 01:12:14 AM »
The Rock 2020 believe!

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« Reply #3971 on: February 26, 2017, 04:07:13 AM »
https://twitter.com/recordsANDradio/status/835493746275987460

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It's horrifying yet hilarious how simple he is.
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« Reply #3973 on: February 26, 2017, 10:07:18 AM »
God watching this like :donot
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« Reply #3974 on: February 26, 2017, 11:56:57 AM »
The DNC neoliberal fucks would rather see 8 years of Trump than lose power to the actual left.  Well, wish granted, fuck this party I'm done.

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« Reply #3975 on: February 26, 2017, 02:15:20 PM »
Done with what? You've been passionately railing against dems since you joined

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« Reply #3976 on: February 26, 2017, 06:04:36 PM »
God watching this like :donot

What you mean, the god who killed babies because some pharaoh didn't want to let Moses' peeps go because god mind-controlled him to say so?

Dunno man, I think he'd approve.

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« Reply #3977 on: February 26, 2017, 07:12:19 PM »
in which we pretend views on corporate donations is the only issue that matters
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« Reply #3978 on: February 26, 2017, 07:30:32 PM »
Perez is leftist as fuck you moron.

He's practically latino Bernie Sanders.

Proxy Hillary v. Bernie forever.


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« Reply #3979 on: February 26, 2017, 07:34:55 PM »
Perez is leftist as fuck you moron.

He's practically latino Bernie Sanders.

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« Reply #3980 on: February 26, 2017, 07:43:26 PM »
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Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

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« Reply #3981 on: February 26, 2017, 07:49:57 PM »
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« Reply #3982 on: February 26, 2017, 07:51:14 PM »
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Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

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« Reply #3983 on: February 26, 2017, 08:13:07 PM »
The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.

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« Reply #3984 on: February 26, 2017, 09:05:05 PM »
"What we need to be looking at is whether this election was rigged by Donald Trump and his buddy Vladimir Putin," Perez said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday.

 :neogaf new chair, same ineffective demoshit talking point
blues could honestly win so easily in 2020 if they stopped the whining smh

The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.
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gross, too far
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« Reply #3985 on: February 26, 2017, 11:57:54 PM »
"What we need to be looking at is whether this election was rigged by Donald Trump and his buddy Vladimir Putin," Perez said in an interview with CNN's Jake Tapper on "State of the Union" on Sunday.

 :neogaf new chair, same ineffective demoshit talking point
blues could honestly win so easily in 2020 if they stopped the whining smh

The man is the world's best troll. He can even troll with his food intake.

He probably chews with his mouth open.
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gross, too far

So whining by the left, guaranteed defeat.

Whining by the right, guaranteed victory.

Just trying to understand the reasoning at work here lol.

Because right now Trump and his supporters are outpacing on the whining scale by an order of magnitude and Republicans did it for 8 years and earned a three branch majority.

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« Reply #3986 on: February 27, 2017, 12:44:18 AM »
The Republican base (as currently constructed) will vote for whomever the party machine churns out, which is a material point of differentiation.

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« Reply #3987 on: February 27, 2017, 01:03:11 AM »
The Republican base (as currently constructed) will vote for whomever the party machine churns out, which is a material point of differentiation.

Liberals are more fickle, I will give you that. But as we saw/see with Trump, one person's whining is another person's mobilizing trigger. Your's or my particular value judgement on a behavior or line of rhetoric is immaterial to whether that behavior/rhetoric is serving as an effective mobilizer at large and weakening the target(s) it is aimed at.

If we are talking about the evidence to the effectiveness of this line of attack of going after Trump with Russia, I would say so far it is a winning tactic. It hasn't pierced the core Trump bubble(and maybe never will) but liberals are more motivated then I have seen in my lifetime and Trump is bleeding with independents. His own party is feeling increasing pressure to investigate him. Trump himself has recently shed a Russia apologist for a Russia hawk. Which continues to make his foreign policy distorted and two-faced which has made his administration look further inept and confuses the few supporters that follow.

.. But most voting decisions are made 6 months out from election, so I probably wouldn't put a whole lot of stock into what the DNC chair says a couple days into his job as a way to paint the likely outcome of 2018.

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« Reply #3988 on: February 27, 2017, 01:59:26 AM »
People who say catsup instead of kethcup  ::)

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« Reply #3989 on: February 27, 2017, 04:52:55 AM »
They're not just more fickle, the underlying ideology that drives both movements is dissimilar. American conservatism is resentment as politics, which is why pissing and moaning gets the 20 whatever percent of the country that decides everything for everyone to turn out again and again. Continued Republican failure to immanentize the eschaton doesn't drive them away, it just makes them more and more resentful, and more and more lockstep. In contrast, even the most insufferable wonk aspires to (more often than not nebulous) societal betterment. Sure, that aspiration might lead to loathsome nonsense like (no strawperson) means testing the gas tax, but dude, at least it's an ethos.

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« Reply #3990 on: February 27, 2017, 08:26:39 AM »
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Trump is served his entree. According to a waiter, who wished to remain anonymous:

“The President ordered a well-done steak. An aged New York strip. He ate it with catsup as he always does.

 :oreilly
Two black presidents in a row
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« Reply #3991 on: February 27, 2017, 08:55:44 AM »
Black people eat Steaks with ketchup?

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« Reply #3992 on: February 27, 2017, 10:08:05 AM »
People who say catsup instead of kethcup  ::)
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« Reply #3993 on: February 27, 2017, 10:25:40 AM »
In my experience with black people, they are more likely to eat everything with A1 and hot sauce.

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« Reply #3994 on: February 27, 2017, 11:25:38 AM »
I was referring to the well done steak. Ketchup on steak is 5yo shit.
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« Reply #3995 on: February 27, 2017, 12:49:05 PM »
A well-done strip steak and a bottle of your finest imported catsup, my good man. :snob
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« Reply #3996 on: February 27, 2017, 12:53:49 PM »
And if you could arrange to have string cheese and peanut butter crackers sent up after I awaken from my nappy, there will be an extra $2 in it for you. :snob
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« Reply #3997 on: February 27, 2017, 12:54:44 PM »
good thing Trump doesn't drink, or we'd be suffering the further indignity of boxed wine and Hamm's being served at state dinners.

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« Reply #3998 on: February 27, 2017, 04:50:36 PM »
Well done steak is an insult to the cow

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« Reply #3999 on: February 27, 2017, 04:58:02 PM »
Well done steak is an insult to the cow

Just knock it's horns off, wipe it's nasty ass, and toss it on the table. :mouf
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« Reply #4000 on: February 27, 2017, 05:05:22 PM »
Well done steak is an insult to the cow
Not after you sprinkle some Italian dressing on top.
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« Reply #4001 on: February 27, 2017, 05:08:33 PM »
A well-done strip steak and a bottle of your finest imported catsup, my good man. :snob
when will we have a President with the courage to order a milk steak boiled over hard with a side of the finest jelly beans, raw

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« Reply #4002 on: February 27, 2017, 05:17:21 PM »
Flesh tearers.  :holeup

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« Reply #4003 on: February 27, 2017, 05:45:11 PM »
Flesh tearers.  :holeup

Kara's own War on Tearer-ism.

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« Reply #4004 on: February 27, 2017, 05:46:09 PM »
Flesh tearers.  :holeup

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« Reply #4005 on: February 27, 2017, 05:47:47 PM »
the finest jelly beans, raw
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« Reply #4006 on: February 27, 2017, 06:00:42 PM »
They're not just more fickle, the underlying ideology that drives both movements is dissimilar. American conservatism is resentment as politics, which is why pissing and moaning gets the 20 whatever percent of the country that decides everything for everyone to turn out again and again. Continued Republican failure to immanentize the eschaton doesn't drive them away, it just makes them more and more resentful, and more and more lockstep. In contrast, even the most insufferable wonk aspires to (more often than not nebulous) societal betterment. Sure, that aspiration might lead to loathsome nonsense like (no strawperson) means testing the gas tax, but dude, at least it's an ethos.
I feel like this has kinda gotten far off the track of what I was saying lol. Not that I really disagree with this assessment of the American right, though I think it is a bit more complex then just that. But that is certainly a current I see heavily on that side.

On the point I was making earlier. It would be presumptive and currently wrong to say that the Democratic strategy of hammering Trump on the Russian connections has been a failure or will be a failure. That really, "whining" from the perspective of one person is not necessarily how the message or strategy is felt by its intended audience. That is setting aside how ridiculously stupid it is to try and paint an entire election cycle based on one talking point tactic in February of 2017.

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« Reply #4007 on: February 27, 2017, 06:04:55 PM »
On another note:

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President Donald Trump noted with some exasperation Monday the complexity of the nation's health laws, which he's vowed to reform as part of a bid to scrap Obamacare.

"We have come up with a solution that's really, really I think very good," Trump said at a meeting of the nation's governors at the White House.
"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/

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« Reply #4008 on: February 27, 2017, 06:14:31 PM »
On another note:

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President Donald Trump noted with some exasperation Monday the complexity of the nation's health laws, which he's vowed to reform as part of a bid to scrap Obamacare.

"We have come up with a solution that's really, really I think very good," Trump said at a meeting of the nation's governors at the White House.
"Now, I have to tell you, it's an unbelievably complex subject," he added. "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/trump-health-care-complicated/

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 It may be just a speech tic of President Trump's, but it also seems telling that anything he himself doesn't know is judged to be unknowable.

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« Reply #4009 on: February 27, 2017, 06:32:03 PM »
It's infurating because literally talk to ANYONE in america that has worked with healthcare companies and your head will explode from how complicated it is and this dolt is like "No one knew!" Are you kidding me? Reminds me of when the whole Obamacare thing went down and I was talking to some republicans who's whole healthcare plan was "freedom" apparently and I was trying to explain how it wouldn't work and I would know since I had worked for nearly every facet of healthcare companies and they were like "Nu-uh! It's simple!"
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« Reply #4010 on: February 27, 2017, 06:39:20 PM »
I work in Nashville, which has a huge health tech and insurance industry.  It fucking broke my brain learning about the facets in which these people had to consider when building a platform.

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« Reply #4011 on: February 27, 2017, 09:36:52 PM »


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« Reply #4012 on: February 27, 2017, 09:53:10 PM »
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« Reply #4013 on: February 27, 2017, 10:43:31 PM »
It's infurating because literally talk to ANYONE in america that has worked with healthcare companies and your head will explode from how complicated it is and this dolt is like "No one knew!" Are you kidding me? Reminds me of when the whole Obamacare thing went down and I was talking to some republicans who's whole healthcare plan was "freedom" apparently and I was trying to explain how it wouldn't work and I would know since I had worked for nearly every facet of healthcare companies and they were like "Nu-uh! It's simple!"
This is basically the narrow variation of how 95% of the conversations I have had with Republicans in the south about healthcare reform start. In order of frequency:


1.)Just get the government out the way. Thats the real problem.

2.)Obamacare ruined everything.

3.)Too many moochers raising costs.

4.)My employer insurance is great. The market works just fine.



Any one of those basically requires a minimum 10 minute explanation where a couple minutes in, the eyes just glaze over. If you even manage to get the person on the same page the next set of accumulated bullshit they have learned follows right behind almost reflexively if you at any point mention how the healthcare market will not naturally produce the results they think they will without guidance, influence, footprints and/or regulation:


 -  Well are you suggesting socialized medicine? It kinda sounds like you are suggesting socialized medicine. Socialized medicine is evil. I heard this 'fact' about Canada or England and therefore I will argue it holds true for any UHC system or country. Everything will be worse. And death panels, there will be death panels. Liberals just want the government to solve everything. People need to be responsible.


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« Reply #4014 on: February 27, 2017, 11:03:13 PM »
These Republicans should stand up and say not to worry about it because the atheist-imposed Sharia Law will ban insurance anyway.


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« Reply #4016 on: February 27, 2017, 11:53:27 PM »
most jarring thing has been seeing clips of 2009 Obama recently, it's like seeing 9/11 era W. clips

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« Reply #4017 on: February 28, 2017, 12:02:53 AM »
http://www.today.com/news/george-w-bush-opens-trump-s-war-media-russia-travel-t108627

It's surprising to find myself in agreement with W on anything. Still, it's 2017. Anything goes.


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« Reply #4019 on: February 28, 2017, 12:44:09 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/27/politics/tom-udall-gorsuch-garland-scotus-plan/
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Sen. Tom Udall has an idea that could place both Judge Neil Gorsuch and Judge Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court at the same time.

The Democrat from New Mexico presented the plan Monday morning to Gorsuch, President Donald Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, as well as to Gorsuch's team of White House aides and former Sen. Kelly Ayotte, who's been attending Gorsuch's meetings with senators.

His proposal is for Trump to meet privately with Supreme Court justices who are interested in retirement. If one of those justices decided they would be willing to retire, and if Trump promises to nominate Garland, President Barack Obama's unconfirmed former SCOTUS pick, in their place, then the retiring justice would submit a letter of resignation contingent on that promise.

Then, both Garland and Gorsuch would be voted on simultaneously.

It's a far-fetched idea, and Udall told reporters he got no response or comment from Gorsuch's team in the room. But he added that he's been talking to other senators about it.

A spokesman from Gorsuch's team did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The idea closely follows a plot line from an episode of "The West Wing" television show. In season 5, episode 17, "The Supremes," a spot on the Supreme Court opens up and the White House works out a deal with another justice to retire so they can replace him with both a liberal justice while Republicans can get their pick of a more conservative justice.