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[Boredfrom]

The only way this day could get more entertaining is if Trump capstones this off with some sort of meltdown tonight at his rally in Kentucky.


....Though I think Trump knows his power to some extent, so I wouldn't be surprised if he throws out some left-field shit to get the coverage to pivot away from today's repudiation.

His bluff was Obama and British Spies, they backfired horrible. Not that it matters as he will wait until Fox News says some crazy shit trying to defend him.

[helios]

https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/843995415615815681

[chronovore]

https://lobelog.com/anne-frank-center-calls-for-resignation-of-trump-adviser-sebastian-gorka/

Sebastian Gorka must resign – and President Trump must make it happen. That Sebastian Gorka cannot even deny he has links with a Nazi-affiliated organization is symptomatic of the grotesque Antisemitism that has infected the Trump White House.  How many ducks in the Trump White House must walk, talk and quack Antisemitically before our country wakes up and sees the greater problem?  This administration has staff with shockingly Antisemitic pasts, and it is hard to imagine they have nothing to do with the horrifically weak reactions to Antisemitic hate crimes that we see coming from this Administration. It does a disservice to the Jewish community to refuse to connect the dots of Antisemitism – including Sebastian Gorka and his background – we see in the White House.

https://twitter.com/astroehlein/status/843026997689434112

[VomKriege]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-tillerson-idUSKBN16S04I?il=0

Tillerson rumored to skip his NATO meeting to go to Moscow with Trump 

[Brehvolution]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fbi-probing-infowars-breitbart-russia
TPM backpat

The FBI’s Counterintelligence Division is looking into the role far-right news sites including Breitbart, InfoWars and the Kremlin-backed RT might have played in Russia’s influence campaign during the U.S. presidential election, McClatchy reported Monday.

[Kara]

https://lobelog.com/anne-frank-center-calls-for-resignation-of-trump-adviser-sebastian-gorka/

His mom translated David Irving? Good grief.

[Syph]

so rockville......





also on the heels of trump approving nasa funding:

[T-Short]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fbi-wiretapped-russian-gambling-ring-headquarted-trump-tower-article-1.3004226

haha, "headquarted"

[T-Short]

https://twitter.com/fmanjoo/status/844310257794895872

[Brehvolution]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/22/521088772/former-trump-campaign-head-manafort-was-paid-millions-by-a-putin-ally-ap-says

"According to documents that we've reviewed, Paul Manafort secretly worked for a Russian oligarch who wanted him to promote Russian interests," the AP's Chad Day tells NPR's Rachel Martin. "And in particular, he wrote a memo that outlined this kind of vast plan for him to promote Russian interests in the former Soviet republics — and also to specifically benefit the Putin government."

 

[Joe Molotov]

Sad article from the failing AP. FAKE

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/Alyssafarah/status/844600543519686660

[Rufus]

also on the heels of trump approving nasa funding:

Uh...
https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/03/elon-musk-on-new-nasa-legislation-this-bill-changes-almost-nothing/

[Great Rumbler]

So, a couple of weeks ago there was a story from my area about how a young white woman was kidnapped from in front of her apartment in a relatively small town by three black men, raped, cut up, and then kicked out on the side of road. She fled to a local church. Now, of course, this burned like wildfire through conservative news sites, for obvious reasons.

The latest on the case today?

According to Talbott’s confession, Denison Police said the crime scene – from the initial “kidnapping” scene at the apartment complex to the point of Talbott’s condition when she walked into the church - were staged."

Talbott also admitted the injuries to her body were self-inflicted.

Also, there was a Go Fund Me account sent up to raise money for her.

[FStop7]

Trump the Lesser using a quote from Sadiq Khan made last September as if he'd said it today.

[I'm a Puppy!]

So they're actually going forward with the vote on Trumpcare tomorrow?

[brawndolicious]

Breaking...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html

Washington (CNN)The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Trump communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN.

This is partly what FBI Director James Comey was referring to when he made a bombshell announcement Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, according to one source.
The FBI is now reviewing that information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings, according to those U.S. officials. The information is raising the suspicions of FBI counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place, though officials cautioned that the information was not conclusive and that the investigation is ongoing.
In his statement on Monday Comey said the FBI began looking into possible coordination between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives because the bureau had gathered "a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe an American may be acting as an agent of a foreign power."
The White House did not comment and the FBI declined to comment.

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[zomgee]

Trump fires Comey and hires Chris Christie as FBI head

[Trent Dole]

Breaking...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/22/politics/us-officials-info-suggests-trump-associates-may-have-coordinated-with-russians/index.html

Washington (CNN)The FBI has information that indicates associates of President Donald Drumpf communicated with suspected Russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to Hillary Clinton's campaign, US officials told CNN.

This is partly what FBI Director James Comey was referring to when he made a bombshell announcement Monday before Congress that the FBI is investigating the Drumpf campaign's ties to Russia, according to one source.
The FBI is now reviewing that information, which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings, according to those U.S. officials. The information is raising the suspicions of FBI counterintelligence investigators that the coordination may have taken place, though officials cautioned that the information was not conclusive and that the investigation is ongoing.
In his statement on Monday Comey said the FBI began looking into possible coordination between Drumpf campaign associates and suspected Russian operatives because the bureau had gathered "a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe an American may be acting as an agent of a foreign power."
The White House did not comment and the FBI declined to comment.

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Fucking DUH

[brawndolicious]

Breh they're going into details about the type of evidence being collected including "in-person meetings". Which may mean somebody is taking a plea deal.

But ultimately, they probably have a good source that the investigation bearing some real fruit or else they wouldn't act so excited about it.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

there would be way too many people involved for somebody not to roll over like a puppy wanting a belly rub. I would imagine a fair number of the 'media' partners at Breitbard and ect. would crumple like paper too.

[zomgee]

there would be way too many people involved for somebody not to roll over like a puppy wanting a belly rub. I would imagine a fair number of the 'media' partners at Breitbard and ect. would crumple like paper too.

It seems like it would have happened already.

[Boredfrom]

there would be way too many people involved for somebody not to roll over like a puppy wanting a belly rub. I would imagine a fair number of the 'media' partners at Breitbard and ect. would crumple like paper too.

It seems like it would have happened already.

Would not mean that they will get the information published right away. The Trump Dossier was a open secret in the press side until CNN and Buzzfed took the bullet.

It also clear Brieitbard has some leaked dirt, but probably only in service of far right or Trump interests. (Thought is sad that they could not even shit enough in Paul Ryan to get Trump out of the Obamacare repeal disaster waiting to happen).

[Brehvolution]

So they're actually going forward with the vote on Trumpcare tomorrow?

I hope it passes.

[Trurl]

 

[Mandark]

Health care vote for today cancelled/postponed.

[Trent Dole]

So they're actually going forward with the vote on Trumpcare tomorrow?

I hope it passes.

It actually doesn't matter. Whether it passes or not, the fuckery that will unfold will be so immense, it will collapse unto itself, creating a veritable blackhole of fuckery that will consume the Republican party. 

People keep saying that but it never actually happens.

Health care vote for today cancelled/postponed.

Cowards.

[Phoenix Dark]

Health care vote for today cancelled/postponed.

[Great Rumbler]

Health care vote for today cancelled/postponed.

lmao the republican party really is the worst

[Joe Molotov]

Day 1

[Kara]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inside-alabamas-auto-jobs-boom-low-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs/ar-BByCt0v?li=BBnb7Kz

[zomgee]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inside-alabamas-auto-jobs-boom-low-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs/ar-BByCt0v?li=BBnb7Kz

Hot damn that's a url.

Edit: 

[Mupepe]

That was a really depressing read

[FStop7]

Making america great again means rolling back factory work to the days of Upton Sinclair.

[I'm a Puppy!]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/gop-health-care-plan-hangs-in-balance-as-house-leaders-push-for-thursday-floor-vote/2017/03/23/6e8bf05a-0fbd-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.eab1dfef4396

So they're actually going to vote on Trumpcare tonight/tomorrow?

[TakingBackSunday]

I still have a feeling this is gonna pass

[chronovore]

https://twitter.com/PresVillain/status/844955300901859328

[I'm a Puppy!]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

[chronovore]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

It's likely I don't understand enough of the situation, but my read is that he can blame it on sluggish, unresponsive career politicians if it doesn't pass, and his base will EAT IT UP LIKE PIE.

[Boredfrom]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

It's likely I don't understand enough of the situation, but my read is that he can blame it on sluggish, unresponsive career politicians if it doesn't pass, and his base will EAT IT UP LIKE PIE.

The problem is that his base is not the same base that will kill moderate politicians for supporting the bill.

[FStop7]

Ukraine's largest ammo depot just got blowed up.

Putin coming for Ukraine like Omar Little.

Is he going to go for it because he thinks Trump's not going to last much longer?

[zomgee]

They're saying nobody has died from that? Supposedly the city has been evacuated because the explosions have been going on for nearly a day. They've shutdown airspace for a pretty big radius.

[Nola]

I still have a feeling this is gonna pass

If so, the Bernie accelerationists will have their victory. This bill is so incredibly bad that not even the Democrats could find a way to fuck up the avalanche of backlash that would come from it.

[Nola]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

It's likely I don't understand enough of the situation, but my read is that he can blame it on sluggish, unresponsive career politicians if it doesn't pass, and his base will EAT IT UP LIKE PIE.

IDK. Eventually that cancellation notice or that huge increase in premium will arrive in the mail. And so much of Trump's support is illusory. Built on false promises like him being the person that can lower peoples premiums, bring down deductibles and increase coverage. Either this passes and many people are fucked, or it doesn't and he has to push back against the argument of why he didn't do something. Why he hasn't been capable of producing change. Heck, I even see TheDonald and my favorite local Trump bastion here in Louisiana  struggling to rationalize this shit show.

Lies work a lot better when you don't have an established record people can hold you to and can't ignore.

[I'm a Puppy!]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

It's likely I don't understand enough of the situation, but my read is that he can blame it on sluggish, unresponsive career politicians if it doesn't pass, and his base will EAT IT UP LIKE PIE.

Well trumps base will. But it's generally not a good idea to alienate the Congress of your party on the first legislation you're going to pass

[Kara]

Making america great again means rolling back factory work to the days of Upton Sinclair.

It also epitomizes the global economy’s race to the bottom. Parts suppliers in the American South compete for low-margin orders against suppliers in Mexico and Asia. They promise delivery schedules they can’t possibly meet and face ruinous penalties if they fall short. Employees work ungodly hours, six or seven days a week, for months on end. Pay is low, turnover is high, training is scant, and safety is an afterthought, usually after someone is badly hurt. Many of the same woes that typify work conditions at contract manufacturers across Asia now bedevil parts plants in the South.

[chronovore]

President Trump delivered an ultimatum to House Republicans on Thursday night: Vote to approve the measure to overhaul the nation’s health-care system on the House floor Friday, or reject it and the president will move on to his other legislative priorities.

Either
1) He can pin this on house republicans and they get the public's blame for trump not fulfilling his campaign promise and they, in turn, turn on him.
or
2) He can't pin this on the house republicans and his base calls him out for being an ineffective leader

It's likely I don't understand enough of the situation, but my read is that he can blame it on sluggish, unresponsive career politicians if it doesn't pass, and his base will EAT IT UP LIKE PIE.

Well trumps base will. But it's generally not a good idea to alienate the Congress of your party on the first legislation you're going to pass

Pretty sure his one actual, provable skill is alienating everyone around him.

[curly]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/inside-alabamas-auto-jobs-boom-low-wages-little-training-crushed-limbs/ar-BByCt0v?li=BBnb7Kz

This is way better journalism than I would expect from Bloomberg

[Raist]

Ukraine's largest ammo depot just got blowed up.

Putin coming for Ukraine like Omar Little.

Is he going to go for it because he thinks Trump's not going to last much longer?

That shockwave at 2:05 holy shit.

[zomgee]

Making america great again means rolling back factory work to the days of Upton Sinclair.

It also epitomizes the global economy’s race to the bottom. Parts suppliers in the American South compete for low-margin orders against suppliers in Mexico and Asia. They promise delivery schedules they can’t possibly meet and face ruinous penalties if they fall short. Employees work ungodly hours, six or seven days a week, for months on end. Pay is low, turnover is high, training is scant, and safety is an afterthought, usually after someone is badly hurt. Many of the same woes that typify work conditions at contract manufacturers across Asia now bedevil parts plants in the South.

I feel like the afterglow housing crash taught some CEOs some lessons, namely that people really will do the work of two or three people, so go ahead and fire people and pile the work on.

[FStop7]

The first time I watched that clip the big explosion startled the shit out of me because I was staring at the corkscrewing rocket.

[Stro]

Lmao at Spicer saying the reason the vote got cancelled yesterday was because they realized it'd take all night and they didn't want to have it pass and get buried at 2 AM.

 

[FatalT]

Lmao at Spicer saying the reason the vote got cancelled yesterday was because they realized it'd take all night and they didn't want to have it pass and get buried at 2 AM.

 

I can't wait to see where Spicer goes after the Trump rule ends. His PR game is unrivaled to none when it comes to spouting out ignorant bullshit that people somehow actually believe

[Boredfrom]

Lmao at Spicer saying the reason the vote got cancelled yesterday was because they realized it'd take all night and they didn't want to have it pass and get buried at 2 AM.

 

I can't wait to see where Spicer goes after the Trump rule ends. His PR game is unrivaled to none when it comes to spouting out ignorant bullshit that people somehow actually believe

Nah, Conway is way better in that regard.

[zomgee]

Paul Ryan Rushes to White House to Tell Trump Votes Are Lacking to Repeal Obamacare

DAD! DAAAAD!

[Nola]

Republicans yank AHCA bill:
https://secure.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-repeal-votes-congress-236459
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/house-leaders-prepare-to-vote-friday-on-health-care-reform/2017/03/24/736f1cd6-1081-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.a27890e20d32?tid=a_breakingnews&hpid=hp_no-name_no-name%3Apage%2Fbreaking-news-bar

[I'm a Puppy!]

and this is supposed to be the "honeymoon" period.

[Stro]

The reports are that Paul Ryan "pleaded" for Trump to not go through with the vote. Trump wanted the vote to go through, even though it definitely would have failed.

[Nola]

The reports are that Paul Ryan "pleaded" for Trump to not go through with the vote. Trump wanted the vote to go through, even though it definitely would have failed.

Paul Ryan doesn't:



Sad.

[Stro]

Omg, Ryan really said that they're going to move on and not touch healthcare for the rest of the congress. Lmao. 7 years for this moment and they can't get shit done and just moved on.