US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[benjipwns]

Cenk is doing even worse in the regular primary. But not as bad as:

George Papadopoulos (R)   1,297   2.35%

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

https://www.businessinsider.com/california-25-congressional-district-special-election-live-results-vote-counts-2020-3

Roy Moore lost too

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/sessions-likely-headed-runoff-alabama-gop-senate-race-roy-moore-n1148956

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Imagine being this hurt, you mentally deficient cornball. Please kill yourself and stop being so tied to your forum identity as an absolute bottom feeding clown.

mandark has glen's password now? 

[benjipwns]

edit: fixed it

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"Tonight really defied what was expected."


Biden edging out sanders by less than 100 delegates?

[Cindi Mayweather]

Shosta:

[benjipwns]

Well, I mean, I expected more candidates to have stayed in until tonight instead of there only being five candidates left from the ~50 who ran. Including people who finished above expectations in Iowa/NH.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

These margins don't merit the elation I'm hearing.

Warren really screwed Bernie in the neighbor states.

[benjipwns]

lol if Bloomberg drops out after spending half a billion and being in third place in delegates and almost 20% in the polls because he's so afraid of Sanders instead of just letting it ride

[Cindi Mayweather]

"Tonight really defied what was expected."


Biden edging out sanders by less than 100 delegates?

wtf are you talking about man, Bernie was projected to win, what, 12 of tonight's states with multiple via sizable leads? The only states that came through for Bernie that was as predicted were Vermont (his home state) and California. This is a massive L for Sanders' campaign.

[benjipwns]

wtf are you talking about man, Bernie was projected to win, what, 12 of tonight's states by sizable leads? The only states that came through for Bernie that was as predicted were Vermont and California. This is a massive L for Sanders' campaign.

Maybe a week ago, but the newest polls showed this split:


Data for Progress was the only one to poll SOLELY after South Carolina

[Cindi Mayweather]

wtf are you talking about man, Bernie was projected to win, what, 12 of tonight's states by sizable leads? The only states that came through for Bernie that was as predicted were Vermont and California. This is a massive L for Sanders' campaign.

Maybe a week ago, but the newest polls showed this split:
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I guess I wasn't caught up on the latest then. But even just a few days ago the polling presented differently to my memory?

[benjipwns]

Most states hadn't even been polled in months. Texas and California was getting most of the polling action, some Massachusetts and North Carolina. People were projecting based on there being two more candidates in the race, one of whom seemed guaranteed to win their own state.

This is why 538's model suddenly put Biden ahead, everyone freaked out on Nate but he was yet again using the only data supplied.

[Mandark]

wtf are you talking about man, Bernie was projected to win, what, 12 of tonight's states by sizable leads? The only states that came through for Bernie that was as predicted were Vermont and California. This is a massive L for Sanders' campaign.

Maybe a week ago, but the newest polls showed this split:
https://i.imgur.com/GGkZb7z.png

looking at those numbers and the results, ruling in favor of cindi on this one

[Cindi Mayweather]

Going forward Bernie is lucky they're about tied in terms of delegates. But also, unfortunately for Bernie, less informed voters will be like,"Biden won all these states! He's winning! I'll go with him!" The media will very much go with a Biden winning narrative which will solidify it.

I gotta be honest. Bernie's honest shot going forward is the rust belt and hopefully the PNW.

[benjipwns]

looking at those numbers and the results, ruling in favor of cindi on this one

How? It's not two competing narratives. I agree that pundits in the Berniesphere were projecting one thing but they were doing so off nothing, there weren't even polls for a lot of these states, let alone polls factoring in SC and the drop-outs. Biden was rising and Bernie had halted in the national polls despite the other candidates still being in them. Then 15% of the vote dropped out in favor of him.

[Mandark]

filing for appeal rejected, ruling stands

[benjipwns]

filing for appeal rejected, ruling stands

[benjipwns]

While I'm looking at 538's model, I think it's definitely going to say Biden's on track to win a majority of delegates at some point in the next couple days. Even with the correction for the new polling, it underprojected a lot of these states by thinking Warren/Bloomberg was going to do much much better.

[Cindi Mayweather]

This race should be over by end of March.

How many delegates are up for grabs in March alone?

[benjipwns]

2,448

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Primary_and_caucus_calendar

It'll probably need April 28th to effectively end it, there's 663 on that day.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

"Tonight really defied what was expected."


Biden edging out sanders by less than 100 delegates?

wtf are you talking about man, Bernie was projected to win, what, 12 of tonight's states with multiple via sizable leads? The only states that came through for Bernie that was as predicted were Vermont (his home state) and California. This is a massive L for Sanders' campaign.

I'm talking about a longer view of the primary, not just the week leading up to super tuesday. Biden had always been expected to take all those states, with higher margins actually.


As an aside the story they are trying to paint that the Biden campaign has no access to resources is hilarious.

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Delegate count closing from cali, still only 40% of the vote. 30 to 21 to 16  Bernie/Biden/Bloomberg      Hopefully bloomberg falls under 15 soon.

[benjipwns]

No, no, he has to stay viable in California or he'll drop out!

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1235043280846381058

Trump curbstomping Mini Mike 

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1235047130663878657

 

[benjipwns]

Found what actually swayed the voters, not the endorsements:

https://twitter.com/gregolear/status/1234895427792777216

spoiler (click to show/hide)

https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1234812873345511430

https://twitter.com/ericgarland/status/1234594585374068738

https://twitter.com/guitarviator/status/1234598315892838400

[close]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Spoiler Alert: Sanders won California

[benjipwns]

TWITTER BEEF:
https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1235108049032851457

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1235043280846381058

Trump curbstomping Mini Mike 

Trump's trolling has largely gone to shit since he won the GOP nomination, but this is up there with his best. On par with calling Jeb a low energy guy, or telling Rand Paul he was having a tough night.

He said recently he kept his best material back for the GE because he clobbered Pochahontas too soon.

This trolling also might have the added effect of Bloomberg not dropping out because he doesn't want to lose to Trump.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1235087629541969920

[Mandark]

He said recently he kept his best material back for the GE

yeah trump's probably telling the truth and also showing restraint, things he is famous for

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

He said recently he kept his best material back for the GE because he clobbered Pochahontas too soon.

People, especially on the right, have been referring to Warren as "Pocahontas" for years now, Trump didn't come up with that.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/edlavaCNN/status/1235107988798488583

oof

[Cauliflower Of Love]

That's crazy.

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THEBORE.COM IS RIGGED GODAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[benjipwns]

The Democratic Oracle declares it over:

JAMES CARVILLE: I think we're going to see some obviously Bloomberg and Warren are not long for this world. I think what we might be starting to see, I'd like someone on the panel to weigh in on this, we might see Democrats starting to ask Sanders, look, let's don't drag this thing out any more than we have to. People want to get on to the general election. They want to get on to defeating Donald Trump.

I think Sanders' showing tonight, hardly any showing with the African-Americans, our most loyal constituency, and our most exciting new constituency, and that is these educated white women. He showed nothing. If we're going to beat Donald Trump, we can't be lollygagging around here for a lot longer because it seems the party is starting to make a decision.

BRIAN WILLIAMS: James, I'm imagining all of Sanders nation saying in unison, and I'll paraphrase, what part of Bernie Sanders and what part of Bernie Sanders' base of support does he not understand we do, in fact, want a revolution?

JAMES CARVILLE: I understand that you do. You don't have a majority of the Democrats that are in on your revolution. I'm sure that they will continue, but I think you're going to see a lot of people saying, why are we doing this? To what purpose? We want to beat Donald Trump.

I travel around the country. I speak to people. And Democrats are not interested in a revolution, they are interested in getting this guy out of power just as fast as they possibly can. And at some point -- Sanders ran in 2016. But I think you're going to start seeing some backlash here, like come on, man, we're speaking pretty loudly and we're speaking pretty clearly tonight. And we're voters and we want to be heard. You can just feel it, you can feel it coming. The dynamic is going to change. This ball is moving fast and it's going to continue to move.

WILLIAMS: I guess I would ask who you see as the voices of maturity who would be having some of the uncomfortable talks at an uncomfortable time in the middle of a pitched battle?

CARVILLE: I don't know that -- I don't think that Senator Sanders, in his defense, he never really liked [or] played well with others. Maybe that's part of his appeal, I think he's sort of proud of that. But I think that the feeling that his campaign has as they go forward, they're going to have people saying, 'You know, Senator Sanders, do you really want to do this?' If the goal here is to really beat Donald Trump, what you're doing is counterproductive.

Look, you ran all the way through in 2016 primaries. You had a voice in a 2020 primaries. You carried your campaign, you raised a lot of money. But our most important constituencies in this party are just not for you. And we have to deal with that and get on to the business of November here. Are you going to be able to negotiate with him or anything like that? Of course not.

[jorma]

ngl, even though i'm not particularly invested emotionally in this election it was still really disappointing waking up to these results. 

[benjipwns]

 

[Mr Gilhaney]

Has Biden cured cancer yet

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Has Biden cured cancer yet

he's got a great cure for colon cancer 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I did back of napkin kornacky, Sanders is down about 121,000 votes.

Colorado is at 67% Bernie leading by ~100K
California is at 62% Bernie  ~200K

Bernie will probably close the vote gap

[VomKriege]

(she's biden)

[benjipwns]

That's left the Warren campaign to wonder whether a path forward exists. While the campaign had insisted it still saw an opening by going to the convention — she will likely collect at least several dozen delegates Tuesday — the results were far below their own publicly-released projections.

Three weeks ago, the campaign said it was “poised” to finish in the top-two in eight of the 14 states that vote on Super Tuesday. She didn’t in any, including her home state of Massachusetts. (California votes are still being counted but she is currently running a distant-fourth.)

This past weekend, the campaign and allies predicted that the field winnowing would redound to Warren's benefit. It didn’t.

The campaign also has financial constraints that come with a unionized staff of over 1,000 people — the largest field operation in the race besides Mike Bloomberg's — even after raising $29 million in February. With a payroll at over $6 million per month, the campaign likely needs to keep at least several million dollars on hand to cover paychecks, benefits, and other assorted shutdown costs to avoid going into debt. Warren was able to raise a significant amount of that money with her strong debate performances, but there is not another debate until March 15.

The super PAC that provided over $12 million in air cover to Warren ahead of Super Tuesday also has said it is not placing ad buys for March 10. Warren herself has no public events planned until Friday. Perhaps anticipating that the night would go poorly, she did not give a tradition election night speech but rather held a regular town hall in Detroit, which votes next week, just as results began to roll in. She hardly mentioned the elections happening Tuesday.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Down to less than 70K difference in pop vote.

[Pissy F Benny]

what are he chances that sleepy magically dies soon and crooked hil steps in to take over as the nom 

i wouldn't put that past the dirty dems 

[headwalk]

so bernie crushed it yeah?

[Ghoul]

So who's winning?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The establishment.

[Pissy F Benny]

[headwalk]

tusli doesn't even have a decent cut back. one step up from people who buy a brand new pop out minimal just to sit on the beach waxing it for their instagram.

low surf energy.

[Nintex]

He said recently he kept his best material back for the GE because he clobbered Pochahontas too soon.

People, especially on the right, have been referring to Warren as "Pocahontas" for years now, Trump didn't come up with that.

The troll was that he made her do a DNA test 

[EightBitNate]

I will be suspending my interest in this election

[shosta]

[nachobro]

i didn't read any of the last few pages but i assume the only hope left is that biden dies before june?

e: oh he won texas, well yeah that's about it then

[james]

Fuck you Glenda your two faced heap of garbage

Who did you really vote for

[Stro]

MSNBC is fucking elated this morning. Calling it the biggest upset victory in modern history.


Meanwhile they also have every black person saying black people voted for Biden because Biden stood by Obama so they're going to stand by him after 6 months of every pundit saying "black voters are not a monolith" and "they won't vote for Biden just because he was Obama's guy".

[nachobro]

glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway. ah well, it is what it is. here's hoping the bernie/progressive momentum continues though the rest of the year and downticket elections.

[headwalk]

glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway. ah well, it is what it is. here's hoping the bernie/progressive momentum continues though the rest of the year and downticket elections.

i fear bernie's momentum will be halted by a foe not subject to the whims of the electorate.

[nachobro]

well any of the dopes in this race could drop dead tomorrow, on either side