US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[ToxicAdam]

I'm just rooting for a brokered convention. I just want to see how it operates in the modern era. The world is a radically different place then when it happened in 1952.

[shosta]

Weren't there riots in 68?

[nachobro]

what will happen is on the second vote every non-bernie delegate will vote for biden and that'll be that

[james]

what will happen is on the second vote every non-bernie delegate will vote for biden and that'll be that

Not if the corona virus gets those old fucks first

You want a coalition of geriatric seniors? Reap what you sow

[nachobro]

hilariously getting those trash candidates out of the way and biden getting more speaking time could actually benefit bernie, but we'll see i guess.

[james]

Warren came in 4th in her home state and not even viable get fucked

[Flannel Boy]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/many-young-voters-sat-out-super-tuesday-contributing-to-bernie-sanders-losses/ar-BB10IrLz?li=BBZdWbk

In Alabama, only 7% of the voters were in the 17-29 range compared to 14% in 2016. Sanders won six of every 10 of those voters Tuesday compared to four of 10 in 2016.

In North Carolina, 13% of Tuesday’s electorate were young voters, compared to 16% four years ago. Of those, 57% went for Sanders in 2020 compared to 69% in 2016.

In South Carolina, young voters made up 11% of the electorate Tuesday compared to 15% in 2016. Sanders won 43% of those voters Tuesday compared to 54% four years ago.

In Tennessee, 11% of those voters showed up Tuesday versus 15% in 2016. Sanders did better among that group Tuesday winning 65% compared to 61% four years ago.

In Virginia, young voters comprised 13% of Tuesday’s vote compared to 16% in 2016. Sanders won 57% of those voters Tuesday compared to 69% four years ago.

Even Sanders’ home state of Vermont showed a lackluster turnout of young millennials and 'Gen Zers.' Only 10% of the state’s electorate were under 30 compared to 15% when he ran against Clinton, according to exit polls.

And a similar trend was playing out in Texas where 16% of voters were between 17 and 29 compared to 20% in 2016.

Related:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/2/25/21152538/bernie-sanders-electability-president-moderates-data

Sanders is similarly electable to more moderate candidates. But, on closer inspection, it shows that this finding relies on some remarkable assumptions about youth turnout that past elections suggest are questionable.

[headwalk]

mental to live in such a bent, gerrymandered setup that your reddit upvotes don't count as a legal electoral endoresment.

[nachobro]

 

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1235202301658386433

[Mr Gilhaney]

good to see footage of him walking with martin luther king finally surfacing. could be a game changer.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Our Revolu....


 

In addition, the Vermont senator has been grabbing a smaller share of them in most cases.

In Alabama, only 7% of the voters were in the 17-29 range compared to 14% in 2016. Sanders won six of every 10 of those voters Tuesday compared to four of 10 in 2016.
In North Carolina, 13% of Tuesday’s electorate were young voters, compared to 16% four years ago. Of those, 57% went for Sanders in 2020 compared to 69% in 2016.
In South Carolina, young voters made up 11% of the electorate Tuesday compared to 15% in 2016. Sanders won 43% of those voters Tuesday compared to 54% four years ago.

In Tennessee, 11% of those voters showed up Tuesday versus 15% in 2016. Sanders did better among that group Tuesday winning 65% compared to 61% four years ago.
In Virginia, young voters comprised 13% of Tuesday’s vote compared to 16% in 2016. Sanders won 57% of those voters Tuesday compared to 69% four years ago.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/

[nachobro]

how can we expect the kids to vote when they can't even read just a few posts up?

[james]

You know what fuck the youth

I think i finally understand why old people get so happy about voting to fuck them over.

I'm supporting whatever candidate doubles the price of college tuition and taxes Netflix at 2 dollars an hour

You little fuckers deserve nothing less

[james]

Virginia a swing state?

 


Look at nh you hack

[Lonewulfeus]

Thinking Florida is ever gonna go blue again 

[nachobro]

blue texas shut the fuck up glen

biden is gonna get btfo and i will proudly not vote for him and pray new mexico goes red just to spite you

[nachobro]

it'll be harder for you once you spend the rest of the year sucking biden's old, child toucher cock only to have him get destroyed.

[shosta]

Biden and Bernie have about equivalent chances in the general with unique downsides and incalculable uncertainties

[nachobro]

and hillary was going to cream donald. so much for polls.

[nachobro]

Worked about as well as wishing death on anyone not full 100% in on hillary, eh?

[BisMarckie]

THAT‘S IT! I AM VOTING FOR TRUMP 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1235202301658386433

Super Tuesday Voters RN

spoiler (click to show/hide)

lol

[close]

That video isn't on his youtube channel.

[nachobro]

on the bright side, biden is learning the lesson well by telling people to "vote for the other guy" whenever he is challenged on anything.

[headwalk]

the lesson is exciting things will only happen if they are also terrible.

[shosta]

Had to have high, high hopes for winning
Shooting for the youth when turnout was missing

[Flannel Boy]

Didn't have the time but they always had derision
Always had high, high dopes

[Coffee Dog]

Who could have possibly predicted that unrelenting hostility and condescension towards everyone not immediately part of your coalition when your coalition is already a minority doesn't actually work to expand your coalition?

Maybe telling all Hillary voters that they were corrupt agency-free hacks voting with their vaginas wasn't a productive activity when those people were an absolute majority of the voting base you need, who the fuck knows.

Considering that most people rallied around biden over the past few days and people have been saying this stuff for years, i dont think this impacted much of anything at all. People threw in with biden after a week of comrade bernie frontrunner scaremongering, not some kind of slow boiling backlash to how bernie has handled the minutiae.

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1235221671730130947

Our long national nightmare is finally over.

[Flannel Boy]

LOL Warren

[nachobro]

dem coalition going back to old familiar territory and gathering around a pedophile, love to see it happen.

[benjipwns]

I TWEETED FOR YOU MIKE AND THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY ME?

THIS IS AMY ALL OVER AGAIN

THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR FALLING IN LOVE

[ToxicAdam]

Don't count Mike out yet. He was fired at 39. He came back then and he can come back now.

[Pissy F Benny]

mini out means no more sick trump ice burns on him, hold me nintex 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://apps.npr.org/liveblogs/20200303-super-tuesday/share/sanders-has-obama-make-his-149.html

Sanders spent about $16 million in Super Tuesday states through Feb. 27. Bloomberg spent a quarter of a billion dollars, while Biden had spent only about $625,000.

Poord biden

Biden spent only about $89,000 here, compared with more than $3.7 million from Sanders.

(texas)

[nachobro]

sucks for them that bernie is gonna do the same thing again this time

really excited for the one on one debates where biden can't finish a single sentence and exposes himself as a deranged old man who is losing his mind on live tv, and instead of saving this old coot from embarrassment the party pretends he's the strongest candidate in the history of the world.

[benjipwns]

"I’ve always believed that defeating Donald Trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it. After yesterday’s vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend and a great American, Joe Biden," Bloomberg said in a statement.

"I’ve known Joe for a very long time. I know his decency, his honesty, and his commitment to the issues that are so important to our country – including gun safety, health care, climate change, and good jobs."

[Occam]

I think it's pretty simple: Murrica is scared of the "socialist".
You know it to be true.

[Coffee Dog]

Who could have possibly predicted that unrelenting hostility and condescension towards everyone not immediately part of your coalition when your coalition is already a minority doesn't actually work to expand your coalition?

Maybe telling all Hillary voters that they were corrupt agency-free hacks voting with their vaginas wasn't a productive activity when those people were an absolute majority of the voting base you need, who the fuck knows.

Considering that most people rallied around biden over the past few days and people have been saying this stuff for years, i dont think this impacted much of anything at all. People threw in with biden after a week of comrade bernie frontrunner scaremongering, not some kind of slow boiling backlash to how bernie has handled the minutiae.

Some people, sure.

But I assure you, there is a slow boiling backlash to how Sanders handled some of the minutiae. There is a contingent of Dem voters that resents Sanders for dragging out the 2016 primary for months after Hillary clinched and partially blames him for the loss. These people were highly motivated to vote against Sanders. No amount of pretending to be confused about how this could be the case, deflecting to 2008, or telling them their feelings are just invalid was going to change this - quite the fucking opposite in fact.

I have the patience of a saint and came around to vote Bernie in spite of my grudge, but many people are not as gracious as I am.

Yeah, I don't think your demographic of spurned campaign trail tea leaf readers represent a large chunk of the electorate. I'm not saying Sanders hasnt pissed people off, every candidate has, I just think people watched the news and the news told them to vote for Biden and here we are.

[james]

Good job black people, you rallied around the stop and frisk side of the party

[Occam]

This is the result of decades of corporate indoctrination, nothing else.

[nachobro]

and now that dem base gets us trump again, assuming biden even makes it far enough that we have an election.

[Occam]

The people who are actually in charge would rather have Trump than Sanders.

[nachobro]

go fuck yourself glen you flip out on anyone who slightly disagrees with you and constantly wish death on swaths of people. that's why people react like that to you.

you have no idea what i do outside the forum but assign blame anyway. you are just another obnoxious shithead not worth caring about.

[benjipwns]

Occam, what are your feelings on Elizabeth Warren?

[Akala]

four years of horror and rage and we really gonna trot out biden. 

[Coffee Dog]

and now that dem base gets us trump again, assuming biden even makes it far enough that we have an election.

Hey now, we don't know that Trump is going to take the election. We've only gone through the primary process and put Trump against the one person he was already preparing to run against. We've got this.

[Occam]

Occam, what are your feelings on Elizabeth Warren?

I found her pretty terrible, and deeply dishonest. But at least she doesn't have dementia.

[Stro]

What the fuck is happening

[Coffee Dog]

The Bernie coalition needed a lot more shostas and a lot fewer nachobros and Timus.

Shosta worked patiently with me during our regular FB chats, addressed my concerns, and ultimately got me to vote Sanders. The rest of you told me to go fuck myself.

More of the shosta strategy could have brought in more reticent moderate voters. Maybe. What the fuck do I know.

Go fuck yourself, glen. You had to get convinced to give me healthcare. 

[benjipwns]

What the fuck is happening

https://twitter.com/DeanObeidallah/status/1235185728377810947

[shosta]

The Bernie coalition needed a lot more shostas

Could you imagine an entire campaign filled with people like me? It would be a public health crisis.

[benjipwns]

Found Glenda's Twitter alt:
https://twitter.com/AngelaBelcamino/status/1235222133099372545

[nachobro]

imagine being so asspained about 2016 that you had to have multiple conversations to be convinced to give poor people healthcare and then shitting all over anyone who doesn't have the patience to deal with you.

the dems deserve more trump. you earned it.

[james]

go fuck yourself glen you flip out on anyone who slightly disagrees with you and constantly wish death on swaths of people. that's why people react like that to you.

I can't believe you're still doubling down after last night. I'm literally telling you what worked and what didn't. Snapping at me isn't going to change a damn thing. But keep going if it makes you feel better.

We don't need you anymore

You're garbage.

Go kill yourself

[Coffee Dog]

why are you people like this

[Occam]

glad to see biden won by taking a bunch of states that will be voting for trump in the general anyway.

That's an astute observation.

[Lonewulfeus]

go fuck yourself glen you flip out on anyone who slightly disagrees with you and constantly wish death on swaths of people. that's why people react like that to you.

I can't believe you're still doubling down after last night. I'm literally telling you what worked and what didn't. Snapping at me isn't going to change a damn thing. But keep going if it makes you feel better.

It worked with depressed youth turnout, surprisingly a voting block that’s very connected constantly being told by the media their candidate has no chance makes people feel hopeless.  Youth turnout is what any dem candidate needs to win these days and instead of embracing the candidate who motivates those voters we go with the guy who boomers love.  Fantastic strategy, it backfired badly in 2016 partly due to luck, it’s gonna backfire way worse this time.

[benjipwns]

why are you people like this

what do you mean "you people"?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Found filler:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/03/tulsi-gabbard-american-samoa-first-delegate-120131

[nachobro]

and yet you still had to convinced that poor people deserve not to die. sounds like you are just another douchebag to me. i cannot wait for trump to put up reagan numbers just so you personally feel like shit.