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« Reply #6720 on: June 08, 2017, 04:34:38 AM »
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/kathy-griffin-enlists-celeb-lawyer-respond-bullying-trump/story?id=47781843

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Kathy Griffin enlists celeb lawyer to respond to 'bullying from the Trump family she has endured'


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« Reply #6721 on: June 08, 2017, 04:39:18 AM »
Repubs only like Trump because he beat the Clintons. Many of them would gladly oust him and work under Pence.

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« Reply #6722 on: June 08, 2017, 04:50:12 AM »
They've had many chances to push Trump off a cliff, yet here we are.

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« Reply #6723 on: June 08, 2017, 06:47:38 AM »
They don't want to have to explain their traitorous actions to their patriot constituents who voted for our Everyman president.
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« Reply #6724 on: June 08, 2017, 08:29:57 AM »
at what hour is the testimony?
It's in 90 minutes (according to the guy next to me at work).

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« Reply #6725 on: June 08, 2017, 09:01:36 AM »
They don't want to have to explain their traitorous actions to their patriot constituents who voted for our Everyman president.

Whatever all those flyover states were that actually put Trump in office, you're right; the republicans were caught by surprise by this, and don't know how to address that group. It took an incoherent narcissist to speak their language.

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« Reply #6726 on: June 08, 2017, 10:16:39 AM »
They don't want to have to explain their traitorous actions to their patriot constituents who voted for our Everyman president.

Whatever all those flyover states were that actually put Trump in office, you're right; the republicans were caught by surprise by this, and don't know how to address that group. It took an incoherent narcissist to speak their language.

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« Reply #6727 on: June 08, 2017, 11:04:20 AM »
Comey is testifying, tweets from Trump: 0. Low energy, sad.
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« Reply #6728 on: June 08, 2017, 11:09:07 AM »
Don Jr. is tweeting, tho.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/872830442344415232

"The former FBI head is ripping my dad on live TV and accusing him maybe committing crimes. *laughing till crying emoji*"

So this is how the other half lives?  :snob
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« Reply #6729 on: June 08, 2017, 11:13:58 AM »
Wow, Comey comes kinda spineless in the way he interacted with Trump. Rubio and republicans are building a case for Trump just being a well-intentioned n00b and Comey not making the boundaries between his agency and the president clear.

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« Reply #6730 on: June 08, 2017, 11:16:14 AM »
Don Jr. is tweeting, tho.

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/872830442344415232

"The former FBI head is ripping my dad on live TV and accusing him maybe committing crimes. *laughing till crying emoji*"

So this is how the other half lives?  :snob

It just shows the rich and powerful are down to earth shitposters just like us.   :jawalrus

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« Reply #6731 on: June 08, 2017, 11:19:21 AM »
Wait, so Donald Trump Jr. is admitting that his daddy was trying to get the FBI director to break procedure and law? :lol

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« Reply #6732 on: June 08, 2017, 11:50:40 AM »
Wow, Comey comes kinda spineless in the way he interacted with Trump. Rubio and republicans are building a case for Trump just being a well-intentioned n00b and Comey not making the boundaries between his agency and the president clear.
"The president is an idiot" isn't a very strong defense.
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« Reply #6733 on: June 08, 2017, 11:52:28 AM »
Wow, Comey comes kinda spineless in the way he interacted with Trump. Rubio and republicans are building a case for Trump just being a well-intentioned n00b and Comey not making the boundaries between his agency and the president clear.
"The president is an idiot" isn't a very strong defense.

But it gives him wiggle room/excuse not to turn on Trump, which is what they don't want to do.

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« Reply #6734 on: June 08, 2017, 11:56:56 AM »
He actually used hill to die on. :neogaf

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« Reply #6735 on: June 08, 2017, 12:07:45 PM »
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/6/5/1669100/-NSA-Director-Mike-Rogers-poised-to-drop-a-bomb-on-Trump-admin-during-Wednesday-testimony

LOL, hopeful Libs.

Coats was a former Republican Senator. He's likely a partisan and Rogers might be compromised as well. I think you guys are putting too much faith in their integrity.

They already cooperated. 

They aren't denying Trump asked them to push back against the Flynn investigation.

That adds another 2 incidents of Trump attempting to obstruct the investigation.

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« Reply #6736 on: June 08, 2017, 12:16:24 PM »
Haven't been watching.  What kind of burger are we looking at, so far?

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« Reply #6737 on: June 08, 2017, 12:18:46 PM »
Of course they didn't deny it! If they did, they would be lying under oath. That they refused to cooperate and comply with rhe requests of the committee that oversees their agencies despite Muller not giving them the direction to do so and no executive privilege invoked is very telling. That and that they made sure to characterize their feelings over not being pressured at any point to do anything illegal, inappropriate, unethical, etc.

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« Reply #6738 on: June 08, 2017, 12:25:10 PM »
In addition, senators King, Wyden etc. would disagree with you that Coats and Rogers cooperated. They refused to answer the questions that were asked and we still don't know  if they did in a closed setting. Don't you think that if Muller thought that them answering the question in an open hearing would hurt the investigation, he would have talked to them about it?

Comey repeatedly stated that the IC mo is not to confirm or deny press reports even if they are false. So them not shooting it down is meaningless. Simply put, if anyone watched the hearing and saw those two men squirming and walked away with the impression that they were acting in good faith, I've got a bridge to sell ya.
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« Reply #6739 on: June 08, 2017, 12:28:29 PM »
You can't be compelled to answer when testifying to Congress?  If not then they (the IC leadership from yesterday) need to be compelled to answer before a judge.  Behind closed doors, if necessary.  No more games.

Oh god, McCain's up from his nap.

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« Reply #6740 on: June 08, 2017, 12:32:10 PM »
Of course they didn't deny it! If they did, they would be lying under oath. That they refused to cooperate and comply with rhe requests of the committee that oversees their agencies despite Muller not giving them the direction to do so and no executive privilege invoked is very telling. That and that they made sure to characterize their feelings over not being pressured at any point to do anything illegal, inappropriate, unethical, etc.

I am coming from the angle that ultimately, the main thing that is going to do in Trump will be built around obstruction....If it ever gets to that place. I think liberals are getting a bit too fantastical with a lot of this to begin with.

But impeachment is so broad and open-ended and the obstruction angle so publicly visible that it seems the charge, if it is ever made, will hinge heavily on that. So while them admitting to it being "pressure" would of been much bigger, just the existence and likely eventual acknowledgment of those asks improves that case.

But of course Coats and Rogers are obviously carrying water for Trump right now. And probably will continue to. And because of that, I find it odd that if those conversations didn't happen, that they wouldn't take the chance to drive in the knife on their falsity.
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« Reply #6741 on: June 08, 2017, 12:32:43 PM »
These guys and the emails :lol
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« Reply #6742 on: June 08, 2017, 12:33:04 PM »
Fuck John McCain

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« Reply #6743 on: June 08, 2017, 12:37:11 PM »
Dude needs to retire. This is embarrassing.
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« Reply #6744 on: June 08, 2017, 12:37:39 PM »
Of course they didn't deny it! If they did, they would be lying under oath. That they refused to cooperate and comply with rhe requests of the committee that oversees their agencies despite Muller not giving them the direction to do so and no executive privilege invoked is very telling. That and that they made sure to characterize their feelings over not being pressured at any point to do anything illegal, inappropriate, unethical, etc.

I am coming from the angle that ultimately, the main thing that is going to do in Trump will be built around obstruction....If it ever gets to that place. I think liberals are getting a bit too fantastical with a lot of this to begin with.

But impeachment is so broad and open-ended and the obstruction angle so publicly visible that it seems the charge, if it is ever made, will hinge heavily on that. So while them admitting to it being "pressure" would of been much bigger, just the existence and likely eventual acknowledgment of those asks improves that case.

But of course Coats and Rogers are obvious carrying water for Trump right now. And probably will continue to. And because of that, I find it odd that if those conversations didn't happen, that they wouldn't take the chance to drive in the knife on their falsity.

True, but was there any doubt that the conversation didn't happen? We just needed confirmation, and we didn't get it. They couldn't deny it because then they'd be committing a crime, but they resisted confirming as much as humanly possible given their situation. That's all I'm saying.

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« Reply #6745 on: June 08, 2017, 12:46:12 PM »
McCain is seriously senile.  Like what the hell was that illogical ramble.  also 'president Comey'   :lol 
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« Reply #6746 on: June 08, 2017, 12:52:09 PM »
Haven't been watching.  What kind of burger are we looking at, so far?

Probably a veggie burger. There's something to it, but probably not enough to leave you satisfied.
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« Reply #6747 on: June 08, 2017, 01:17:30 PM »
Just so I understand, they collaborate on the questions before hand and know the order of questions beforehand, so ending in McCain trying to connect Hillary to this in a very misleading way was on purpose correct?
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« Reply #6748 on: June 08, 2017, 01:26:51 PM »
Just saw the McCain thing. Did he just have a stroke on live TV?

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« Reply #6749 on: June 08, 2017, 01:58:33 PM »
Just saw the McCain thing. Did he just have a stroke on live TV?

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« Reply #6750 on: June 08, 2017, 02:03:03 PM »
Also, I didn't really ever want to hear John McCain say "intensely aroused".  :doge
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« Reply #6751 on: June 08, 2017, 02:03:42 PM »



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« Reply #6752 on: June 08, 2017, 02:15:38 PM »
Can we count this as a nothingburger, FStop?
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« Reply #6753 on: June 08, 2017, 02:24:24 PM »
Nadataco ?
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« Reply #6754 on: June 08, 2017, 02:47:07 PM »
Wonder what happens now
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« Reply #6755 on: June 08, 2017, 02:53:15 PM »


Fuck John McCain

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« Reply #6756 on: June 08, 2017, 02:55:20 PM »
My guess....

Trump team spins it. Trump makes some dumb tweets when the adults give his phone back.

GOP continues to be complicit and insincere in their investigations.

Trump doesn't ever get his big legislative victory this year.

Investigation probably continues on for years with occasional leaks while Trump continues to do questionable things that make no sense like handing back Russian compounds seized by the last administration.

Etoilet continues to spray L's on everyone's faces.

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« Reply #6757 on: June 08, 2017, 02:56:20 PM »
John McCain is really one of the most flip floppy undependable people in US political history. I have no idea how that guy gets votes.
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« Reply #6758 on: June 08, 2017, 03:17:51 PM »
My guess....

Trump team spins it. Trump makes some dumb tweets when the adults give his phone back.

GOP continues to be complicit and insincere in their investigations.

Trump doesn't ever get his big legislative victory this year.

Investigation probably continues on for years with occasional leaks while Trump continues to do questionable things that make no sense like handing back Russian compounds seized by the last administration.

Etoilet continues to spray L's on everyone's faces.

Welcome to the next 3 1/2 years, check your brain at the door.
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« Reply #6759 on: June 08, 2017, 03:27:08 PM »
I guess I missed one:

Trump shows he can pay people a lot of money to be just as incompetent as he is.

Quote from: Trump's $1500 an hour lawyer
Although Mr. Comey testified he only leaked the memos in response to a tweet, the public record reveals that the New York Times was quoting from these memos the day before the referenced tweet, which belies Mr. Comey’s excuse for this unauthorized disclosure of privileged information and appears to entirely retaliatory. We will leave it the appropriate authorities to determine whether this leaks should be investigated along with all those others being investigated.

https://twitter.com/juliehdavis/status/872880038202486792

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« Reply #6760 on: June 08, 2017, 03:46:25 PM »
Who's been leaking info to The Onion? :maf

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« Reply #6761 on: June 08, 2017, 03:46:28 PM »
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I get the sense from Twitter that...
He should explain himself after that shitshow but jesus christ, don't release a statement based on "the sense from twitter". Fuck the 21st Century.
 
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« Reply #6762 on: June 08, 2017, 04:11:02 PM »
Meanwhile...

Key GOP centrists open to ending Medicaid expansion

Abortion restrictions threaten Senate GOP’s Obamacare repeal push


A lot of hopes for the healthcare bill crashing are based on "moderate" Republicans caring about how it affects their constituents, and on the GOP feeling bound by previous norms about the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian.

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on either of those.

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« Reply #6763 on: June 08, 2017, 04:34:23 PM »
Meanwhile...

Key GOP centrists open to ending Medicaid expansion

Abortion restrictions threaten Senate GOP’s Obamacare repeal push


A lot of hopes for the healthcare bill crashing are based on "moderate" Republicans caring about how it affects their constituents, and on the GOP feeling bound by previous norms about the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian.

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on either of those.

And nobody does. People just saying they are not going to pass unscathed.

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« Reply #6764 on: June 08, 2017, 05:52:50 PM »
Why is everyone hung up on the "I hope" line? Trump admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That's the obstruction of justice, with admission of guilt. That's the smoking gun.

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« Reply #6766 on: June 08, 2017, 06:43:18 PM »
John McCain is really one of the most flip floppy undependable people in US political history. I have no idea how that guy gets votes.

Because of the weight his name carries for heroism in war and his wife's money.

His father and grandfather would be ashamed of what he became.

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« Reply #6767 on: June 08, 2017, 07:05:39 PM »
The new line I'm seeing everywhere on right-wing sites is that Trump had every right to stop the Flynn investigation, so it wouldn't matter even if he did "direct" Comey to do so.

Seems kind of fishy to me, but I Am Not A Lawyer.

As I understand it, it is basically the whole "the president has legal authority to fire the FBI director at any time he chooses or to stop or start an investigation."

Which I am pretty sure is technically true(though I did read something that it is not so black and white) but that doesn't really mean a whole lot if the issue is obstruction of justice. Plus, its just bullshit. They themselves would never be saying shit like that if it were Obama that did that shit to Comey over Hillary's emails. Their hearts would be bleeding all over the country about the left compromising the integrity of the independence of the DOJ and FBI.

The only path this was ever going to go down for Trump was impeachment, a political process. Since I think past rulings make it pretty much impossible to prosecute a sitting president in a criminal court. But impeachment has a ton of broad leeway as to what constitutes high crimes and misdemeanors. Nixon was going to have obstruction charges brought against him with his impeachment, so Trump is in good company.

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« Reply #6768 on: June 08, 2017, 07:38:52 PM »
Meanwhile...

Key GOP centrists open to ending Medicaid expansion

Abortion restrictions threaten Senate GOP’s Obamacare repeal push


A lot of hopes for the healthcare bill crashing are based on "moderate" Republicans caring about how it affects their constituents, and on the GOP feeling bound by previous norms about the reconciliation process and the Senate parliamentarian.

I wouldn't exactly bet my life on either of those.

And nobody does. People just saying they are not going to pass unscathed.

Other than poor people, you mean.
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« Reply #6769 on: June 08, 2017, 07:53:02 PM »

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« Reply #6770 on: June 08, 2017, 09:45:02 PM »
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Fuck John McCain

Nowhere in McCain's rambling, incoherent comments did he even remotely come close to making this argument.

Also:

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« Reply #6771 on: June 08, 2017, 11:59:25 PM »
Wonder what happens now

Trump Jr said that now that this is all past us Papa Trump can get back to #MAGAing. So yeah.
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« Reply #6772 on: June 09, 2017, 04:00:42 AM »
Wonder what happens now

Trump Jr said that now that this is all past us Papa Trump can get back to #MAGAing. So yeah.

Amazing insulation between the President and the people running his businesses by the way.
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« Reply #6773 on: June 09, 2017, 05:27:17 AM »
John McCain is really one of the most flip floppy undependable people in US political history. I have no idea how that guy gets votes.
That means he's pragmatic and bipartisan, not driven by politics.

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« Reply #6775 on: June 09, 2017, 09:22:38 AM »
Ignorance has much the same effect.

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« Reply #6777 on: June 09, 2017, 10:49:10 AM »
 :lol




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« Reply #6778 on: June 09, 2017, 11:00:50 AM »

 :rofl tucker holdin all the L's

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« Reply #6779 on: June 09, 2017, 12:05:37 PM »
That wrench looks broken.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1388259

All these people are going on the secret service watch list.