US Politics Thread |OT| SAD TRUMP

[james]

what if you both shut up

Lick my scrotum, Glenda

[Mandark]

if the gop are making those concessions that's pretty good. I would just take it. But like others have pointed out there are no representatives from Senate Rs so it's not clear if that deal is even actionable. WTF is McConnell doing?

edit: maybe I'm just a coward and Pelosi's right

McConnell spent a week trying to get his caucus to coalesce around a plan (after wasting months after passing the CARES Act). All he got was a bunch of Republicans yelling at each other and a proposal that the Dems didn't take seriously.

Whatever the final bill is, there will be a lot of Republicans voting against it in the Senate (they're not as scared of a Trump tweet now because his numbers are so bad, and a bunch like Cruz are already jockeying for 2024 where they can say how they voted against the biggest handout of taxpayer money in the history of this great country). So McConnell's washing his hands of the process.

Meadows was apparently pushing for a "majority of the majority" threshold where they'd only pass something if most R Senators voted for it (used to call this the Hastert Rule but I can see why you'd want to avoid that!), but it's not clear that's what will happen, or even is possible.

[Mandark]

Yeah.

That was the one thing that was in both the HEROES and HEALS Acts.

[Mandark]

it's $1200 to everyone, including undocumented immigrants and incarcerated persons, no income limits, but excluding bore poster riotous and his relatives

[tiesto]

https://twitter.com/AngelaBelcamino/status/1235222133099372545

 

Got some 90's british house playing in another tab and her dancing goes along perfectly with it...

[Stro]

I think it is a certainty that whomever Biden picks as his VP will not get elected as president afterwards and definitely will not have 10 years as president.

[Joe Molotov]

it's $1200 to everyone, including undocumented immigrants and incarcerated persons, no income limits, but excluding bore poster riotous and his relatives

Finally something both parties can agree on.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Axios just published a piece claiming Biden is deciding between Kamala and Rice.

Pretty crazy to think that if Biden wins and he doesn't complete his term, his VP pick could be President for a decade or so with little effort.
Kamala ruling for 10+ years would pretty much spell the end for the momentum of the left wing of the Democratic party.

You know what? I'm going to go the Jonathon Swan route.

Nintex, how would his VP pick be president for the next decade?

2020 - Biden is elected.
2022 - Biden resigns after 1 or 2 years in office and the Trump circus has left town, VP takes office 2 years into Biden's term
2024 - VP is reelected
2028 - VP is reelected

Why would a vp reelected? Can you point to me the last time America voted in a veep? Granted Biden has a case this year but it's a special case under a special assortment of circumstance. Can you point to me a Veep ever being elected twice?

[james]

Can you point to me the last time America voted in a veep?

Bush was VP and then Bush served 3 terms and just yesterday Bush won a primary

[Mandark]

There's only one question we should be asking Nintex at this point: which of your predictions do you have enough confidence in to wager some money?

[james]

There's only one question we should be asking Nintex at this point: which of your predictions do you have enough confidence in to wager some money?

Another reason to have a dedicated betting forum. Keep Nintex honest!

[james]

Speaking of betting, did you guys know you could turn your $1,200 stimulus check into $5,000 or maybe even $50,000? Send me a pm to learn more!

[Akala]

at this point I am kind of hoping the reps throw their hands up and pass majority of the dem plan, calculating it'll be easy to pin ballooning deficits/spending on the dirty libs down the road. obviously there will be the unintended consequence of people not starving, but can't win em all.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Can you point to me the last time America voted in a veep?

Bush was VP and then Bush served 3 terms and just yesterday Bush won a primary

I was asking Nintex, and that happened *checks notes* over thirty years ago and he lost re-election. And LBJ lost his re-election bid as well. Essentially, there is no precedent for Nintex's quackery.

Kamala was so unpopular she left the race before primaries were opened.

Basically, what I'm telling Nintex, that unless you're like Vom and on the up and up on American history to please



You being almost as bad as Nintex while being American should personally make you want to commit seppuku or equally shut the fuck up.

[james]

Cindi why do you hate strong black women?

[Mandark]

Trying to figure out what happened with the liability shield. Haven't seen it mentioned in the last few couple of reporting on the negotiations.

Either that's a "discuss it later because we're so far apart" thing or the WH dropped it (which could explain why Mitch is sulking).

[Cindi Mayweather]

Tasty, please make a script that turns every James post into the rock_shutup_bitch.avi youtube link for my sanity. There are few posters as stupid and irritating and given he's from the Tri-state area, a location exalted for its education standards, makes me feel existential. Hopefully he's a transplant.

[james]

Tasty, please make a script that turns every James post into the rock_shutup_bitch.avi youtube link for my sanity. There are few posters as stupid and irritating and given he's from the Tri-state area, a location exalted for its education standards, makes me feel existential. Hopefully he's a transplant.

Cindi, why do you want to silence a minority?

[Cindi Mayweather]

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1290985220129329152

200 to 400 is good.  Eviction protections? Even more good.

[Lonewulfeus]

I feel like James hails from south jersey, anything outside of ~15 miles north or south of the I-80 corridor may as well be Kentucky.

[james]

Im from mexico you pinche gringos

[Kara]

I was bummed that the U.S. Postal Service appears an early sacrificial lamb in that tweet.

[Crash Dummy]

https://twitter.com/subtlebodhi/status/1290499775524028417

Yes, the hard hitting interview that exposes the president is a distraction. Fuck off.

Not making excuses for either the tweet or poo-pooing the interview but what new thing(s) did you learn from the axios interview that you didn’t already know? Did it change your opinion about trump in any meaningful way?

[Cindi Mayweather]

https://twitter.com/subtlebodhi/status/1290499775524028417

Yes, the hard hitting interview that exposes the president is a distraction. Fuck off.

Not making excuses for either the tweet or poo-pooing the interview but what new thing(s) did you learn from the axios interview that you didn’t already know? Did it change your opinion about trump in any meaningful way?

I want as many opportunities as possible to expose Trump as deranged madman out of his element.

[Great Rumbler]

Man, I'm already tired of President Kamala. Bring on the 2032 elections already!

[Cindi Mayweather]

Which side did you take in the second American Civil War, Rumbler?

[Mandark]

Man, I'm already tired of President Kamala. Bring on the 2032 elections already!

we've got a sentient dog-being who transcends our narrow view of linear time and it won't give us any betting tips smh

[Kara]

Which side did you take in the second American Civil War, Rumbler?

He fought with John Titor, obviously.

[Joe Molotov]

Can't wait to be able to vote online with my IBM 5100.

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Republicans finally waking up?

https://mobile.twitter.com/conorsen/status/1290969503967383552

[team filler]

[Tripon]

Republicans finally waking up?

https://mobile.twitter.com/conorsen/status/1290969503967383552

Or dying from it.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Republicans finally waking up?

https://mobile.twitter.com/conorsen/status/1290969503967383552

Support for Trump is mostly steady so no.

[team filler]

Republicans finally waking up?

https://mobile.twitter.com/conorsen/status/1290969503967383552

https://mobile.twitter.com/rerutled/status/1291001547682447360

 

[Cindi Mayweather]

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ok this got me

[Mandark]

Republicans finally waking up?

Probably not to the degree that they'd abandon American conservatism, but I could see them feeling that the Congressional GOP botched the job.

After the Clinton impeachment the GOP felt that their Congressional leaders were toxic and went with GWB to sort of clear the slate. Then he tarnished the party brand himself, and the Tea Party reboot was predicated on the image of citizen protesters and "outsider" candidates who weren't tied to a party (but who voted and ran exclusively within the GOP).

I'd expect another wave of "this isn't your father's Republican party: meet the young guns who are going to shake up Washington!" stories in a couple years.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Republican party will still live as long as there's conservative news radio, sites, YouTube, and news channels. Every ten years we get "the death of the republican party" and nothing happens to truly make it happen.

[Tripon]

I used to think once Rush left, a lot of the angry right wing stuff would die off, as eve his imitators didn't have the reach he did, but Alex Jones and the like has shown that you can be super niche and still have a lot of influence.

[shosta]

first map is dumb but second one is doable! let's do it!

[Cindi Mayweather]

God I wish we could just separate this dumb, overly big country.

[Stro]

Can Americans get into Canada by claiming they're driving to Alaska right now?

[Joe Molotov]

Can Americans get into Canada by claiming they're driving to Alaska right now?

Yes, but they'll side-eye you.

https://www.canada.ca/en/border-services-agency/news/2020/07/covid-19-stricter-rules-for-foreign-nationals-transiting-through-canada-to-alaska.html

[VomKriege]

Republicans finally waking up?

Probably not to the degree that they'd abandon American conservatism, but I could see them feeling that the Congressional GOP botched the job.

After the Clinton impeachment the GOP felt that their Congressional leaders were toxic and went with GWB to sort of clear the slate. Then he tarnished the party brand himself, and the Tea Party reboot was predicated on the image of citizen protesters and "outsider" candidates who weren't tied to a party (but who voted and ran exclusively within the GOP).

I'd expect another wave of "this isn't your father's Republican party: meet the young guns who are going to shake up Washington!" stories in a couple years.

QAnon.

[Cindi Mayweather]

Republicans finally waking up?

Probably not to the degree that they'd abandon American conservatism, but I could see them feeling that the Congressional GOP botched the job.

After the Clinton impeachment the GOP felt that their Congressional leaders were toxic and went with GWB to sort of clear the slate. Then he tarnished the party brand himself, and the Tea Party reboot was predicated on the image of citizen protesters and "outsider" candidates who weren't tied to a party (but who voted and ran exclusively within the GOP).

I'd expect another wave of "this isn't your father's Republican party: meet the young guns who are going to shake up Washington!" stories in a couple years.

QAnon.

The worst thing about republicans is that they just get worse. The ones after Trump will be horrifying. We should split the nation now tbh. It's a shame the most logical answer is also the least practical in terms of execution.

[Kara]

A state blocking easy Pacific access to not one but two squatter petro states sure won't be subject to all kinds of fuckery.

[VomKriege]

A state blocking easy Pacific access to not one but two squatter petro states sure won't be subject to all kinds of fuckery.

Pacifica should annex Panama for absolute fuckery.

[shosta]

"I took the isthmus!"—President Edmund G. Brown

[team filler]

 

[shosta]

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1291119090963185667

[Mandark]

That week of intra-Republican negotiations between the WH and Senate feels extra dumb now that Senate Republicans aren't even bothering to show up for the real talks.

[Cindi Mayweather]

https://theweek.com/articles/928371/could-america-split

Team end America. Only way to avoid bloodshed.

[shosta]

Surely there are enough defectors in the party. I don't understand what the Senate Republicans are doing besides going "oh well" and knowing they'll retire with fabulous pensions.

[BIONIC]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

Bore mods annihilated 

[Pissy F Benny]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

I knew bork was CIA

[Stro]

https://theweek.com/articles/928371/could-america-split

Team end America. Only way to avoid bloodshed.

Breaking up America avoided bloodshed the last time

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/WakeUp2Politics/status/1291022215782309889


 

[Mandark]

Surely there are enough defectors in the party. I don't understand what the Senate Republicans are doing besides going "oh well" and knowing they'll retire with fabulous pensions.

Born-again fiscal conservatives are sign of Trump’s weakening hand in Congress

There's some combination of positioning for 2024 and genuine ideological opposition to giving people money, while Trump's numbers are so bad they're not afraid to buck the administration. All in the context of the GOP forgetting how to do basic governance over the last few decades.

Also maybe McConnell found out the liability shield was DOA and just lost interest?

[team filler]

  bide may have to call in a ringer 

[james]

Maybe the senate Republicans are depressed and suicidal like the rest of us and can't get out of bed to negotiate

[jakefromstatefarm]

I'd expect another wave of "this isn't your father's Republican party: meet the young guns who are going to shake up Washington!" stories in a couple years.

and honestly we’re already seeing this