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« Reply #1320 on: April 11, 2018, 08:44:52 PM »
Yo Atra, does this mean we gettin back into the lottery pool game soon? :doge

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« Reply #1321 on: April 11, 2018, 08:46:33 PM »
why don't you just develop some other skills and get a better job, or develop yourself socially and get a wife so that you two can share the burden of existence, like the rest of us do

Aren't you supposed to be like 20

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« Reply #1322 on: April 11, 2018, 08:52:01 PM »
why don't you just develop some other skills and get a better job, or develop yourself socially and get a wife so that you two can share the burden of existence, like the rest of us do
I would the only problem is that as soon as I get home from work I want to go to bed because I feel so fucking tired. I pray that my doctor will shed some light, this Friday, on what I can do to get my energy levels back to normal or I might as well just end it all if all I’ll be doing is working and sleeping in order to recover from work for the rest of my life.

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« Reply #1323 on: April 11, 2018, 08:55:07 PM »
Hold on Atra, it's equal to your initial investment? How much of the 7k can you pay with your profits/remaining crypto?

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« Reply #1324 on: April 11, 2018, 08:55:34 PM »
Are you a healthy weight? How's your diet?
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« Reply #1325 on: April 11, 2018, 09:17:49 PM »
Yo Atra, does this mean we gettin back into the lottery pool game soon? :doge
I’m desperate so the thought has crossed my mind.

Hold on Atra, it's equal to your initial investment? How much of the 7k can you pay with your profits/remaining crypto?
I checked today. I have around $9K of my profits left (it was $7900 a week ago...). I want to keep it in though because there should be more money flowing in once we get past tax season. I’m hopeful that by December I’ll have at least $15K in crypto and then I could cash that money out to pay for 2018’s taxes.

Are you a healthy weight? How's your diet?
I’m 210 lbs (6’ tall). I’m overweight but I’ve been eating mostly eggs, meat, and veggies lately and trying to stay away from starchy carbs as much as possible. I hardly ever eat bread now because it wreaks such havoc to my body.

I’m hoping to get to the gym this weekend but last Saturday I slept the majority of it away and then on Sunday I had to prepare for the work week and get chores done that I didn’t get done the week before due to work.

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« Reply #1326 on: April 11, 2018, 09:20:54 PM »
Any pets? A dog would give you an excuse to go running. Would also be nice to come home to every day.
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« Reply #1327 on: April 11, 2018, 09:27:56 PM »
I'm more of a cat person tbh.

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« Reply #1328 on: April 11, 2018, 09:29:48 PM »
Cats are way better for busy people, too. They completely clean themselves, sleep most of the day, go to poop on their own and don't require much attention at all. A cat will run you like $30-$60 at the shelter and then maybe $50-75 a month on litter and food.

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« Reply #1329 on: April 11, 2018, 09:35:59 PM »
Do people actually go to jail for not paying taxes
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« Reply #1330 on: April 11, 2018, 09:36:50 PM »
Esp white people. Use your god given advantage
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« Reply #1331 on: April 11, 2018, 10:14:55 PM »
I’m 210 lbs (6’ tall). I’m overweight but I’ve been eating mostly eggs, meat, and veggies lately and trying to stay away from starchy carbs as much as possible. I hardly ever eat bread now because it wreaks such havoc to my body.

I’m hoping to get to the gym this weekend but last Saturday I slept the majority of it away and then on Sunday I had to prepare for the work week and get chores done that I didn’t get done the week before due to work.

If you're fat it could be sleep apnea
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« Reply #1332 on: April 11, 2018, 10:24:04 PM »
Do people actually go to jail for not paying taxes

Yes?

(Literally the first person that came to my head, no agenda or anything)

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« Reply #1333 on: April 11, 2018, 10:24:32 PM »
wow, you really are racist
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« Reply #1334 on: April 11, 2018, 10:28:18 PM »
:trumps

Then again, Atra could go bankrupt and become president. :trumps

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« Reply #1335 on: April 11, 2018, 10:34:47 PM »
I’m 210 lbs (6’ tall). I’m overweight but I’ve been eating mostly eggs, meat, and veggies lately and trying to stay away from starchy carbs as much as possible. I hardly ever eat bread now because it wreaks such havoc to my body.

I’m hoping to get to the gym this weekend but last Saturday I slept the majority of it away and then on Sunday I had to prepare for the work week and get chores done that I didn’t get done the week before due to work.

If you're fat it could be sleep apnea
I might ask the doctor about that. But I thought only besada sized people got sleep apnea. :thinking
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« Reply #1336 on: April 11, 2018, 10:56:08 PM »
I'm pretty sure atra is depressed which is a way likelier reason for him to be drained everyday from an office job than sleep apnea.
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« Reply #1337 on: April 11, 2018, 10:58:49 PM »
I’m 210 lbs (6’ tall). I’m overweight but I’ve been eating mostly eggs, meat, and veggies lately and trying to stay away from starchy carbs as much as possible. I hardly ever eat bread now because it wreaks such havoc to my body.

I’m hoping to get to the gym this weekend but last Saturday I slept the majority of it away and then on Sunday I had to prepare for the work week and get chores done that I didn’t get done the week before due to work.

If you're fat it could be sleep apnea
I might ask the doctor about that. But I thought only besada sized people got sleep apnea. :thinking

No even skinny people can get it. You can wear a Mi band or fitbit to see how you sleep at night.

Or like go to a real sleep doctor if you wanna be all official like that.

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« Reply #1338 on: April 11, 2018, 11:02:20 PM »
I’m 210 lbs (6’ tall). I’m overweight but I’ve been eating mostly eggs, meat, and veggies lately and trying to stay away from starchy carbs as much as possible. I hardly ever eat bread now because it wreaks such havoc to my body.

I’m hoping to get to the gym this weekend but last Saturday I slept the majority of it away and then on Sunday I had to prepare for the work week and get chores done that I didn’t get done the week before due to work.

If you're fat it could be sleep apnea
I might ask the doctor about that. But I thought only besada sized people got sleep apnea. :thinking

No, even underweight can get it like Brawndolicious said.

Brawn: Those fitbits actually are accurate when it comes to that? I figured it only checks when you go to sleep/REM and then raise, nothing about the breathing or anything. ...Though, I guess monitoring the REM cycle(s) makes it accurate...

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« Reply #1339 on: April 11, 2018, 11:11:49 PM »
Have you actually got proper financial advice. I still think you should only pay tax on realised fiat gains.

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Under Section 1031, no gain or loss is recognized if property held for investment (or for productive use in a trade or business) is exchanged solely for property of like kind.

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First, the bad news. Buried deep in the massive tax bill enacted at the end of 2017 was a provision that limits like-kind exchanges to real estate transactions, effective after December 31, 2017.

So your crypto -> crypto transactions prior to 31/12 can be argued for exemption under Section 1031. Assume you've already looked into this stuff but.. Still sounds iffy. I would love to see the IRS try and prove there is some realised gain from crypto -> crypto trades in court.

I’m not really sure what else you would classify it. It doesn’t really fit the definition of currency.


Worth mentioning again, that this is like a month of furry commission work. I’m sad I can’t fucking draw, or I would be full stop drawing Hentai and Furry commissions every day.

Draw up your best dragon creampieing a futa Leapord with wings and a goatse with anal teeth and get em up on your deviant art and start rolling in that dough.

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« Reply #1340 on: April 11, 2018, 11:15:31 PM »
my diagnosis atra: u need some therapy and a good fuck
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« Reply #1341 on: April 11, 2018, 11:29:02 PM »

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« Reply #1342 on: April 12, 2018, 12:31:02 AM »
Just stop browsing 4chan, it gives you brain cancer

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« Reply #1343 on: April 12, 2018, 06:47:01 AM »
>implying that I don’t already have brain cancer

 :nintendo


I’m not gonna lie, I’d totally be doing this if I knew I could get away with it for a couple of months.

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« Reply #1344 on: April 12, 2018, 07:43:16 AM »
I know someone inside. Lets just say me and naff were on the right track. Im gonna declare eitherway cause im a fucking pussy. But yeah. Claim prop to prop exchange the onus is on them. You will avoid any kind of felony. Furthermore i think the IRS is gonna get sued up the ass if they go a hyper retroactive penalty route. You are giving them work they dont want to do.

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« Reply #1345 on: April 12, 2018, 08:12:34 AM »


I think people are dumping their tax refunds into crypto.  :gladbron

It was just two or three weeks ago I was scrapping $7500.

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« Reply #1346 on: April 12, 2018, 08:51:49 AM »






SOROOOOOOOSSSS  :doge


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« Reply #1348 on: April 12, 2018, 01:24:30 PM »
why don't you just develop some other skills and get a better job, or develop yourself socially and get a wife so that you two can share the burden of existence, like the rest of us do

You mean in the same land of oppurtunity where getting a degree could possibly make his financial situation exponentially worse?

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« Reply #1349 on: April 12, 2018, 01:39:29 PM »
Yeah, taking on any significant college debt would fucking destroy me at this point.

My best and only opportunities are skillshare and other online academies.

And I don't believe most employers are willing to do paid apprenticeships these days (unless someone could show me otherwise).

I'll just keep on inching by with my sub par graphic design job. Ironically, other people who I went to college with for graphic design would kill for my position since a good chunk of them are baristas, paper fillers, or call center reps.  :doge

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« Reply #1350 on: April 12, 2018, 02:12:27 PM »
just go to school for CS, you're basically an aspie so you should do well
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« Reply #1351 on: April 12, 2018, 02:17:07 PM »
lol this tax shit

I’m HODLing ADA and XLM forever now

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« Reply #1352 on: April 12, 2018, 02:21:21 PM »
just go to school for CS, you're basically an aspie so you should do well
I’ve tried my hand at code...

It’s not really my cup of tea. My aspie nature is much more visual/aesthetic based.  :doge

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« Reply #1353 on: April 12, 2018, 02:21:48 PM »
Look into one of those coding bootcamps (either online or offline if there are ones near you). Only costs a couple grand and lasts 2-3 months, but they set you up to get an entry level web developer job.

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« Reply #1354 on: April 12, 2018, 02:24:02 PM »
I’ve tried my hand at code...

It’s not really my cup of tea. My aspie nature is much more visual/aesthetic based.  :doge
And how long did you even try?
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« Reply #1355 on: April 12, 2018, 03:04:18 PM »
I’ve tried my hand at code...

It’s not really my cup of tea. My aspie nature is much more visual/aesthetic based.  :doge
And how long did you even try?
If I had to guess... 2 to 3 weeks total of my life I have spent trying to code.

If I had a gun to my head (which I kinda do in a abstract sense) I guess I could try and delve into code that is related to UI/UX, computer graphics, and animation.

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« Reply #1356 on: April 12, 2018, 03:19:32 PM »
Programming as a practice is the intersection of a conceptual methodology (the decomposition of complex computation), existing architectural corpus (operating systems, data structures, frameworks) and a collection of constantly changing domain specific tools (the web, graphics languages, scripting languages, systems languages, build-system languages). Give it like 2 years at least and maybe you'll have something that looks like a budding craft.

Nobody in their right mind would say "I tried learning Spanish in 3 weeks, couldn't really do it." And even when you do climb that hurdle that doesn't mean you're suddenly capable of reading anything in any domain. I should mention: I spent a few years tutoring beginning CS students. Some of these people would be two years into their degree and still had difficulty programming. These are people who do this mainly full-time, now imagine trying to do it in your spare time along side a difficult career. My point is not to discourage you, but that if you experienced difficulty, it's par for the course. Good things never come easy.

You said you want to get ahead in life. Prove it, bitch.
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« Reply #1357 on: April 12, 2018, 03:49:25 PM »
Ideally I just want to become an illustrator but if that doesn’t pan out ...I guess I’ll resort to code.



Also, in other news Bitcoin is Halal:
https://news.bitcoin.com/research-paper-declares-bitcoin-compliant-with-shariah-law/




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« Reply #1358 on: April 12, 2018, 04:55:12 PM »
I will second that coding advice. It is probably one of the few fields that has enough support on the web to get you really ahead. I don't think it is as easy as the bootstrapping libertards make it out to be, but it does hold more promise as an exit strat than most other majors, at least in the near future. You are also going to compete with people who formally went to school( albeit it might be one of the few BSs that may be worth it atm if you do decide to pile debt).

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« Reply #1359 on: April 12, 2018, 05:26:33 PM »
That's actually why I rolled my eyes when I read your last post about exponential debt. For CS, go to an ok school, get that piece of paper, you'll be up to your eyeballs in job offers if you're not distinguished mentally-challenged and you'll be able to pay off your debt in a year or two.
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« Reply #1360 on: April 12, 2018, 05:38:03 PM »
OTOH Devs are about 50/50 horrible people to work with and it’s a roll of the dice if you won’t end up working with an insufferable socially inept asshole.

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« Reply #1361 on: April 12, 2018, 05:40:12 PM »
That’s a concern for sure.

And sure I can be insufferable here but I’m actually rather agreeable in meat space. Probably too agreeable which people will take advantage of.

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« Reply #1362 on: April 12, 2018, 06:08:06 PM »
i thought about getting a new graphix card earlier, saw the prices then remembered people still mine this trash  :rage
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« Reply #1363 on: April 12, 2018, 09:50:32 PM »
It's done. I've mailed out the checks for my state and federal taxes.  :shaq2

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« Reply #1364 on: April 12, 2018, 10:21:27 PM »
Programming as a practice is the intersection of a conceptual methodology (the decomposition of complex computation), existing architectural corpus (operating systems, data structures, frameworks) and a collection of constantly changing domain specific tools (the web, graphics languages, scripting languages, systems languages, build-system languages). Give it like 2 years at least and maybe you'll have something that looks like a budding craft.

Nobody in their right mind would say "I tried learning Spanish in 3 weeks, couldn't really do it." And even when you do climb that hurdle that doesn't mean you're suddenly capable of reading anything in any domain. I should mention: I spent a few years tutoring beginning CS students. Some of these people would be two years into their degree and still had difficulty programming. These are people who do this mainly full-time, now imagine trying to do it in your spare time along side a difficult career. My point is not to discourage you, but that if you experienced difficulty, it's par for the course. Good things never come easy.

You said you want to get ahead in life. Prove it, bitch.
i'm old, i should have no business attempting a "new career" but man i always wanted to do cybersecurity/ programing. is it too late? i don't know why i never jumped in early on this shit. i was bombing people with text bombs on AOL back in my day  ;)

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« Reply #1365 on: April 12, 2018, 10:25:37 PM »
How old? Ageism is real.
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« Reply #1366 on: April 12, 2018, 11:35:36 PM »
It's done. I've mailed out the checks for my state and federal taxes.  :shaq2

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« Reply #1367 on: April 13, 2018, 12:26:11 AM »
And I don't believe most employers are willing to do paid apprenticeships these days (unless someone could show me otherwise).

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/california/articles/2017-11-23/tech-firms-scrounging-for-skilled-workers-training-their-own

I've looked into it, but beyond IBM I haven't found the other tech companies that are doing this. And IBM's pickings are slim.

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« Reply #1368 on: April 13, 2018, 12:30:29 AM »

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« Reply #1369 on: April 13, 2018, 12:31:16 AM »
Go back to school man, nothing's stopping you if you really want it
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« Reply #1370 on: April 13, 2018, 12:35:13 AM »
Go back to school man, nothing's stopping you if you really want it
i already have a masters but i hate what i'm doing.

i really really want to do cybersecurity. there's a program offered at a local university. i may give that a go. can't hurt.

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« Reply #1371 on: April 13, 2018, 12:39:26 AM »
Go for it, man, life's too short to stay in shithole countries. You can't go wrong with security because of the internet of things, which is already a security disaster, and the increasing frequency of terrorist hackers etc. You can expect an explosion of jobs from that sector in the next few decades.

Btw I've been meaning to ask you, why do you even live in a shithole country?
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« Reply #1372 on: April 13, 2018, 12:46:08 AM »
Go back to school man, nothing's stopping you if you really want it

Except money probably.
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« Reply #1373 on: April 13, 2018, 12:47:13 AM »
It barely costs any upfront money to go to school.
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« Reply #1374 on: April 13, 2018, 12:49:59 AM »
It’s still money you’re eventually going to have to pay, though. And the amount you’re going to have to pay is less swallowable the older you are.
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« Reply #1375 on: April 13, 2018, 12:51:22 AM »

Btw I've been meaning to ask you, why do you even live in a shithole country?
The only good thing about work is that i travel a bit. get placed in a location for a while. i chose to stay in this one longer because it's cheaper to live and i rented out my apartment in the states for $1500 a month. (oh and the women)

i enjoy working on my own, remotely. I'd love to do something in that cyber realm if i could pull off a remote job. it'd be a dream.

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« Reply #1376 on: April 13, 2018, 09:36:16 AM »
It’s still money you’re eventually going to have to pay, though. And the amount you’re going to have to pay is less swallowable the older you are.

The naivety of youth. Overwhelmingly this place fucking blows, a  few 100 thousand  programmers isnt going to off set all the debt laden, wage stagnating, largely socially immobile great majority. Maybe they needed more peterson in their lives while making monumental decisions at the tender age of 18.

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« Reply #1377 on: April 13, 2018, 09:46:06 AM »
My Bittrex balance is still climbing.

If it keeps up I'll have enough money to pay off my taxes next year and regain what I've lost in taxes this year. Thus breaking even financially but scarring myself emotionally.  :doge

Man, what a colossal waste of time and energy if that ends up happening.  :-\


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« Reply #1378 on: April 13, 2018, 02:00:52 PM »
i thought about getting a new graphix card earlier, saw the prices then remembered people still mine this trash  :rage
At least they're in stock now. Now the cards worth buying just need to return to their initial MSRP. Well before the next generation comes out, that is...

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« Reply #1379 on: April 13, 2018, 04:27:19 PM »
Yeah, what gives with 1070s still being $600? Who would pay that much for that shit? I thought they were overpriced at $380.

Of course I just bought both 4K consoles so I’m out of the you market for a while.