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TVC15

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« Reply #4080 on: November 22, 2017, 03:15:13 AM »
She's great though. Sorry.

Not my fav on the show but still great. My fav is Bish.

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« Reply #4081 on: November 22, 2017, 03:15:39 AM »
I almost listed Blossom with Kara Annotation but that scoundrel continues to break our hearts.

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« Reply #4082 on: November 22, 2017, 03:16:13 AM »
Valid 2000s sitcoms that started before 2005 and ended before or around Obama's stealing of the White House:
Andy Richter Controls the Universe trash
Arrested Development amazing
Futurama amazing
Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law didn't watch
King Of The Hill meh
Kitchen Confidential it was actually ok, but a poor adaptation of the source material
My Name Is Earl trash

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« Reply #4083 on: November 22, 2017, 03:17:51 AM »
King Of The Hill meh
My Name Is Earl trash
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« Reply #4084 on: November 22, 2017, 03:19:46 AM »
Never saw My Name is Earl. Is it still worth checking o...

Benji, I'm glad you didn't list any trash-tier 90's sitcoms that people only remember for nostalgia reasons

Full House
Step by Step
Blossom
Saved by the Bell
Mad About You
Boy Meets World
Home Improvement


I would place Just Shoot Me, King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond solidly in the mid-tier. While not brilliant, they are watchable and can be quite funny.

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« Reply #4085 on: November 22, 2017, 03:20:39 AM »
King of the Hill had some great moments (that's my purse, I don't know you) but 90% of the time it was "i sell propayne and proooopayyne accessories lol"

My Name is Earl felt like some shitty Kevin Smith film in TV form.

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« Reply #4086 on: November 22, 2017, 03:22:24 AM »
Look, I used to watch all those shows. I feel a certain amount of nostalgia towards them too. They just don't hold up.

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« Reply #4087 on: November 22, 2017, 03:24:40 AM »
This is a great page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sitcoms_known_for_negative_reception
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Buddies – Comedians Dave Chappelle and Jim Breuer attracted the attention of TV network executives with their guest appearance in the March 14, 1995 episode of ABC's highly rated sitcom Home Improvement.[19] The storyline had Chappelle and Breuer play a duo of friends who appear on Tool Time to ask Tim Taylor advice on their girlfriends. The characters' single outing on the episode proved so popular that ABC decided to give Chappelle and Breuer their own half-hour sitcom. After subsequent rehearsals, Jim Breuer was replaced with Christopher Gartin as Dave Chappelle's "buddy".
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Buddies was off the air on April 3 after a broadcast history of only five episodes out of the 13 that were produced
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the full series was released on DVD in 2005 as a Best Buy exclusive.
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The Trouble with Larry – Larry (Bronson Pinchot) returns home a decade after he was dragged off by baboons on his honeymoon
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« Reply #4088 on: November 22, 2017, 03:25:06 AM »
nobody mentioning Rosanne

FOR SHAME

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« Reply #4089 on: November 22, 2017, 03:25:28 AM »
King of the Hill had some great moments (that's my purse, I don't know you) but 90% of the time it was "i sell propayne and proooopayyne accessories lol"

My Name is Earl felt like some shitty Kevin Smith film in TV form.
i literally can't even

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« Reply #4090 on: November 22, 2017, 03:27:02 AM »
Will & Grace  :piss2
3rd Rock from the Sun :piss2
Kirk :piss2
Grace Under Fire :piss2
Sister Sister :piss2
The Nanny :piss2
Ellen :piss2
Murphy Brown :piss2

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« Reply #4091 on: November 22, 2017, 03:27:22 AM »
Novid save us

Assimilate post some garbage

somebody complain about social studies warriors

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« Reply #4092 on: November 22, 2017, 03:28:39 AM »
Didn't know I would trigger both TVC and Benji in one night. Two birds, one stone  :obama

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« Reply #4093 on: November 22, 2017, 03:28:46 AM »
I bet agrajag is just so old that the last sitcom he actually enjoyed was All in the Family, or Married with Children.
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« Reply #4094 on: November 22, 2017, 03:29:40 AM »
I bet agrajag is just so old that the last sitcom he actually enjoyed was All in the Family, or Married with Children.

WTF, we've been talking about much more recent sitcoms that I enjoyed this whole time

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« Reply #4095 on: November 22, 2017, 03:30:19 AM »
I bet agrajag is just so old that the last sitcom he actually enjoyed was All in the Family, or Married with Children.

WTF, we've been talking about much more recent sitcoms that I enjoyed this whole time

Also All in the Family and Married with Children aren't from the same era  :ufup

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« Reply #4096 on: November 22, 2017, 03:34:10 AM »
Look, I used to watch all those shows. I feel a certain amount of nostalgia towards them too. They just don't hold up.

Bitch, I watch Blossom ALMOST EVERY DAY.

nobody mentioning Rosanne

FOR SHAME

Hey, I love it, up until season 5 or 6 or so. Been watching a lot of it lately because I’ve been working from home a lot and Logo shows like 4 hour blocks. It’s one of the greats. It always will be... until the revival comes out and ruins it.
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« Reply #4097 on: November 22, 2017, 03:34:54 AM »
Plus this is a good place to insert:
King Of The Hill
proof this show is the greatest and agrajag is just lame:


there is nothing more pitch perfect than cotton getting pissed off at hank for enjoying a bagel
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« Reply #4098 on: November 22, 2017, 03:35:06 AM »
I used to watch Parent 'Hood


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« Reply #4099 on: November 22, 2017, 03:39:21 AM »
The early 2000s start with a real masterpiece. The greatest series nobody ever watches no matter how hard I pimp it: Manhattan, AZ
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« Reply #4100 on: November 22, 2017, 03:40:18 AM »
Unhappily Ever After deserves a mention for... reasons

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« Reply #4101 on: November 22, 2017, 03:43:16 AM »
She was engaged at the time to Bobcat Goldthwait who played the talking rabbit in that.

She was on The Norm Show too. Which is appropriate considering she's married to the only guy who can actually do a Norm impression, Jay Mohr. (Though they're getting a divorce apparently.)

But time has not been...kind to her.

She was also the alien girl Data talks to on that planet that's exploding or whatever.

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« Reply #4102 on: November 22, 2017, 03:43:52 AM »
Um, btw, I give Resetera a forever pass for introducing me to the Brogulls web comic, featuring incestuous seagull, uh, furries. I just saw an anthropomorphic muscle seagull with a garbage can-sized dick cream hard in his tiny twinkgull brother’s ass(/cloaca?).
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« Reply #4103 on: November 22, 2017, 03:43:56 AM »
so much plastic surgery

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« Reply #4104 on: November 22, 2017, 03:49:28 AM »
one thing I've always wondered is: how did bobcat not ruin his vocal chords?
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« Reply #4105 on: November 22, 2017, 03:49:59 AM »
If Mohr's divorce filing is to be believed she has way more problems than her bad plastic surgery :doge
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Jay Mohr alleged that his estranged wife, Nikki Cox, battles mental health issues and is requesting sole physical custody of their 5-year-old son, Meredith, according to new court documents.

In the documents — filed on Friday, March 10, and obtained by People — Mohr requests sole physical custody and joint legal custody with Cox, 38, having “reasonable visitation with Meredith, which shall be professionally monitored.”

The Ghost Whisperer actor, who filed for divorce from Cox for the second time in December after nearly 10 years of marriage, also claims that the actress/comedy writer has refused “to attend her mental health issues.”

Mohr, who has been living with Cox and their son in the same home since their split, went on to say that he and Meredith have had to move due to the Unhappily Ever After star’s “abuse of drugs, and her failure to respect boundaries. … I had no choice but to obtain alternate housing for me and our son.”

The Saturday Night Live alum cited several alleged incidents in which he believes Cox put Meredith in danger. He claims that she left ovens on while she and her son were asleep; she left backdoors open at night for their dogs to walk in and out of; and once gave Meredith too much medicine, causing him to throw up. “Nikki’s mental health issues continue to go untreated. … she continues to demonstrate that she is incapable of caring for Meredith,” he states in the docs.
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According to court documents obtained by TMZ, he is alleging the Las Vegas star has a drug problem and it is putting their son at risk.

The 46-year-old Ghost Whisper star said in the court documents that Nikki's drug issues are causing their five-year-old son to regress but did not specify how.

He did, however, claim that the actress has put son Meredith's safety at risk a number of times.

TMZ reports that Nikki allegedly gave the boy 'a double dose of flu medicine that caused the boy to vomit in his sleep'.

The star also alleges, TMZ reports, that his estrange wife 'doesn't set boundaries' and their child is allowed to watch television and eat candy till 2am.

This is not the first time the comedian has accused his ex of having drug issues.

The first time he filed for divorce in July he wanted full custody of their child, as he claimed the Las Vegas actress suffers from depression and that her self-medication has led to a 'serious' drug problem that puts their boy at risk.

In his latest filing Jay said, according to TMZ, that his wife has tried to take her life twice.

The 38-year-old also told her estranged husband that she was pregnant in January, the website reports, but Jay dismissed the claim as he is azoospermic - which means his semen contains no sperm rendering him infertile.
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According to the documents, he claims that Meredith “has been urinating and defecating in his pants” and “routinely yells and screams” at his mother.

“Nikki’s poor parenting decisions affect Meredith’s well-being. Her refusal to discipline Meredith has made me the parent who enforces the rules in our house,” the docs read. “When I have checked on Meredith in the middle of the night, I have walked into the master bedroom to see Meredith and Nikki awake at 2:00 a.m, watching cartoons and eating candy.”

The actor also alleges that his estranged wife “will often come to the guest bedroom in the middle of the night and attempt to seduce me” and recently told him that she believed she was expecting another child: “In January (2017), Nikki told me that she thought she was pregnant. I am azoospermic so this news meant either a miracle had happened, another man had impregnated Nikki, or she was lying. She assured me it was mine.”

He also claims that on “2 separate occasions” during their almost decade-long marriage, she asked him to “drive her to the Universal Hilton so that she could commit suicide. She almost never sleeps. She has isolated herself and no one ever comes to the house to visit her.”

“While I acknowledge that I still love Nikki, I also acknowledge that we can no longer be married to each other, and I cannot continue to raise our son in a toxic environment,” the docs read.
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« Reply #4106 on: November 22, 2017, 03:51:15 AM »
carpoolers had that one good episode, well one good scene with come on eileen

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« Reply #4107 on: November 22, 2017, 03:51:59 AM »
well, that's a downer

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« Reply #4108 on: November 22, 2017, 03:52:24 AM »
one thing I've always wondered is: how did bobcat not ruin his vocal chords?

I saw Bobcat earlier this year and really liked him. He doesn’t do the shtick anymore. He also waited after the show to meet people and he seemed really cool. I hated him in the 80s/90s, although I’ve heard some things about Shakes the Clown that make it sound up my alley.

Liked Willow Creek, too.
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« Reply #4109 on: November 22, 2017, 03:52:49 AM »






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all better than steinfeld
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« Reply #4110 on: November 22, 2017, 03:53:45 AM »
Look, I used to watch all those shows. I feel a certain amount of nostalgia towards them too. They just don't hold up.

Bitch, I watch Blossom ALMOST EVERY DAY.

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« Reply #4111 on: November 22, 2017, 03:58:14 AM »
lol someone really lost his shit in the jeremy piven thread on reeee

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« Reply #4112 on: November 22, 2017, 04:00:25 AM »
how could I ever forget, the mastapiece of all times


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« Reply #4113 on: November 22, 2017, 04:00:43 AM »
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Tbh, Piven deserves to be strung up, beaten and shot for this heinous stunt. The dudes truly a psychopath. No joke, this dude is fucking insane. Even Weinstein didn't have the balls to take some bogus polygraph test.

Because like any psychopath he has no shame. They feign these emotions but don't truly have them. This is what has allowed Piven to do such a brazen thing even though he is guilty. Straight up a lunatic.
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« Reply #4114 on: November 22, 2017, 04:01:45 AM »
Seinfeld :ahh
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« Reply #4115 on: November 22, 2017, 04:02:16 AM »
I SWEAR THE GOD THIS GUY IS A LUNATIC HE DESERVES TO BE FLOGGED AND MURDERED. A STRAIGHT UP CRAZY PSYCHO I TELL YOU

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« Reply #4116 on: November 22, 2017, 04:02:46 AM »
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Are you going to attempt to defend your statement that "everything you've read" suggests they're 50/50 at best, when the very source your quoted - from leading critics no less - contradicts that?

Also, correct, that 90% comes from a potentially biased source which is why I'm happy to meet you on your side of the middle. Literally not one single person in this thread is claiming that a polygraph is completely accurate.

I've read the 50/50 stat previously. I'm not a fucking polygraph academic and this is an internet forum, I don't have to defend shit.

"That 90% stat is likely made up, so I'll meet you half way." lol ok
Now I know how etiolate always gets away with his alt right lies
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« Reply #4117 on: November 22, 2017, 04:04:08 AM »
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lmao at that cherry picking.

First of all, throw that 50/50 garbage out because this ain't a false positive scenario.

So according to your own source, the leading critics of polygraphs still concede they're at least 65% accurate.

But sure "everything I've read suggests they're 50/50 at best".

Leading proponents claim up to 90% so let's split the difference, throw a few points back your way and call it about 75%. Hardly meaningless.
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« Reply #4118 on: November 22, 2017, 04:04:13 AM »

Now I know how etiolate always gets away with his alt right lies

well, he did post this

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If you lie loud enough and have enough people repeat it then who is going to spend the time to fact check during their workday?


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« Reply #4119 on: November 22, 2017, 04:05:16 AM »
lol at fucking Chumley of all people lamenting the level of discourse considering his entire history

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« Reply #4120 on: November 22, 2017, 04:07:12 AM »
Joan Rivers and Rosanne Barr. Not sure who else I genuinely like.

Not a stand-up comic, but I think Julia Louis-Dreyfus is one of the funniest people on earth.
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« Reply #4121 on: November 22, 2017, 04:09:08 AM »
how could I ever forget, the mastapiece of all times



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« Reply #4122 on: November 22, 2017, 04:16:53 AM »
you don't actually need to do any of this stupid fake math, at least according to the OP's report, the questions and format of the test discredit it, he knew the questions going in and they were all formatted for him to give repeated "no" answers except for the last one which is actually an impossible question for him to answer

i don't even know what 65% or 90% accurate is supposed to mean, the polygraph makes no reading, it's the tester who determines it

unless they have one of those fancy machines like the Baltimore Police Department and a professor to operate it:

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« Reply #4123 on: November 22, 2017, 04:17:17 AM »
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You know, that might happen, and it's horrible that that might happen, but at the same time if the university is censoring debate that exists in the real world and it's impossible to extricate that from the backlash some individuals might face, the information still has to be released.

The same with the Brett Winstein scandal, releasing the email he sent regardless of the consequences to his life (and there were consequences) had to be weighed against the newsworthiness of the content.

Arguing that the recording shouldn't have been released because some people might get backlash is a disingenuous complaint, and I doubt you would care if someone you disagreed with was the focus on the animus.

You are falling into the trap set up by the far right thinking that this is a question of freedom of speech and that we somehow have to 'tolerate' and actively invite and encourage the inclusion of far-right opinions and arguments in order to 'defeat them'. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a university course and how to teach.

University courses have curricula. They have hiring practices. They have regulations stating that what topics and areas to teach. All the time teachers and professors decide on what literature and authors to include and exclude when teaching. All the time they decide what to say and how to balance teaching, course requirements, hand-ins, exams, etc. When they choose not to include everything, would you call this censorship as well? Obviously not. We constantly make value judgments on what fits best with the limited time in a course and not having the time to pick up on some far-right academic's views on gender pronouns and his ties to nazis is not a case of censorship - it's just saying that it's not worth the time of day.

Freedom of speech is just the societal equivalent to "ethics in games journalism".
It's just a smokescreen to entice unaffected and unknowing people to listen to and recognize bigoted arguments as legitimate political positions. It has nothing to do with this specific case of university teaching.
Yeah who is this Transhuman poster, and why is he such a piece of shit? Also his username might be bigoted, there's a 50/50 chance.
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« Reply #4124 on: November 22, 2017, 04:21:35 AM »
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Try Kevin Spacey. His House of Cards performance is likely his true persona. Psychopaths are tricky fucks, but I don't think Spacey was acting; he was slightly adjusting his native personality.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/1203163/
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« Reply #4125 on: November 22, 2017, 04:21:53 AM »
had a big crush on the sister and Goo was such a shit lol



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« Reply #4126 on: November 22, 2017, 04:25:06 AM »
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Man, it's a shame to see such a force for good torn down to nothing with literally nothing other than the word of two people and a photo where he is making an offensive groping gesture.

All anyone will have to do from now on is simply accuse someone on the left of sexual harassment. And poof, the left will eat them.

The most important thing is the impact of harassment, deliberate, accidental, malicious, or initernalized, on the people targeted. But that doesn't mean you ignore everything else.

I voted for Al Franken. I would gladly vote for Al Franken again if there were an election tomorrow, because I think he is one of the greatest forces for good in this country, and I firmly do believe, or want to believe, in my heart that he would never intentionally physically violate another human being, and would never excuse his behavior if it did. I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise.

I am a man, so no, I don't understand what it's like for women. I can't understand what it's like for women. What I'm most afraid of is that I, and others, have internalized harassing behavior to the point that we do it without thinking about it, and women have internalized it to the point that they will just put on a smile while it happens and speak out about it in retrospect, that no one will ever be called on to reflect on what they're doing as they're doing it, and nothing will change.

I'm fucking begging you, out of pessimism for the level of misogyny that is accepted as the norm in our culture, speak up if you feel a hand on your ass. Speak out if you're uncomfortable with a kissing scene and you're in theater. I don't... how can I be expected to disown what I perceive to be one of the greatest forces for good in politics right now, a man who I deeply respect, when there's so little to go off of that damns his character? When dozens of people who worked under him come out and say "This is not consistent who Al Franken is," and when he condemns himself for his own misconduct, calls for introspection and investigations and shining a spotlight on himself and others, and his apology is immediately accepted?

This isn't even getting into the muddying of the waters - I'm well aware of the weaponization of this scandal by russian bots on social media. I'm aware of Roger Stone being in the know of these things before they were revealed publicly. It smells dirty to me, but I'm trying to keep that fact isolated from the reality of the pain perceived by those who have been victimized, deliberately, maliciously, unknowingly, or accidentally, by not just Al Franken, but our cultural norms that treat women with less dignity and respect that they deserve, and to take into account the responses and corroborating accounts of those accused and connected to either the accused or the accusers.

And I'm sure there is some portion in the above paragraphs that will be quoted, bolded, and ranted against as proof that I am a monster. How can we make progress like this if our own imperfections are weaponized by those who seek to prevent progress? How can we better ourselves if it takes this long for us to be called out by each other? How can any person be expected to interact in any capacity with the public while avoiding contact that could be interpreted as inappropriate? Yes, I've been touched inappropriately. Accidentally, and deliberately. I think we all have, man or woman. But fuck, is that really the end all, be all? Does nothing matter other than whether one person ever felt wronged by another? What's the fucking recourse for any of this when someone just throws out a false accusation, like the NYPost did on behalf of Arianna Huffington, in the case where it's Arianna Huffington herself saying so?

This is insane. Even if Al Franken is an ass grabbing misogynist.
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« Reply #4127 on: November 22, 2017, 04:26:24 AM »
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I agree with your post. So far, I have believed the various allegations by accusers over the past few months, supported by well sourced reporting.

But this Franken situation... I'm sure some aspects of the accusers' stories are true, yet it strongly reeks of people like Stone and Bannon turning the momentum of the "believe women" movement against political opponents. It's truly gross and helps delegitimise the stories of other victims, but it's not above them and it's not above a very very small (!) number of women willing to go along with it.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4128 on: November 22, 2017, 04:27:32 AM »
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You know, that might happen, and it's horrible that that might happen, but at the same time if the university is censoring debate that exists in the real world and it's impossible to extricate that from the backlash some individuals might face, the information still has to be released.

The same with the Brett Winstein scandal, releasing the email he sent regardless of the consequences to his life (and there were consequences) had to be weighed against the newsworthiness of the content.

Arguing that the recording shouldn't have been released because some people might get backlash is a disingenuous complaint, and I doubt you would care if someone you disagreed with was the focus on the animus.

You are falling into the trap set up by the far right thinking that this is a question of freedom of speech and that we somehow have to 'tolerate' and actively invite and encourage the inclusion of far-right opinions and arguments in order to 'defeat them'. Freedom of speech has nothing to do with a university course and how to teach.

University courses have curricula. They have hiring practices. They have regulations stating that what topics and areas to teach. All the time teachers and professors decide on what literature and authors to include and exclude when teaching. All the time they decide what to say and how to balance teaching, course requirements, hand-ins, exams, etc. When they choose not to include everything, would you call this censorship as well? Obviously not. We constantly make value judgments on what fits best with the limited time in a course and not having the time to pick up on some far-right academic's views on gender pronouns and his ties to nazis is not a case of censorship - it's just saying that it's not worth the time of day.

Freedom of speech is just the societal equivalent to "ethics in games journalism".
It's just a smokescreen to entice unaffected and unknowing people to listen to and recognize bigoted arguments as legitimate political positions. It has nothing to do with this specific case of university teaching.
Yeah who is this Transhuman poster, and why is he such a piece of shit? Also his username might be bigoted, there's a 50/50 chance.

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4129 on: November 22, 2017, 04:34:56 AM »
what does Gears of War have to do with any of this

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4130 on: November 22, 2017, 04:36:35 AM »
that's the worst joke you've ever told
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4131 on: November 22, 2017, 04:40:00 AM »
Recommendations for any Anime's?

we trusted you enough to verafy you
and this is how you abuse your power
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4132 on: November 22, 2017, 04:45:10 AM »
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4133 on: November 22, 2017, 04:46:17 AM »
that's the worst joke you've ever told
oh i highly doubt that

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4134 on: November 22, 2017, 04:47:10 AM »
the smaller version of the image looks like it says verafled

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« Reply #4135 on: November 22, 2017, 04:49:11 AM »
User was warning for this post: making fun of moderation
the smaller version of the image looks like it says verafled
coincidentally that's the banner they get after they ask to not be associated with the site anymore
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4136 on: November 22, 2017, 04:55:45 AM »
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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4137 on: November 22, 2017, 05:04:09 AM »
Bird incest is nice but it’s not dad-son josmanart

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« Reply #4138 on: November 22, 2017, 05:07:05 AM »
"no dad, just the mattress...but if you have a jar..."

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Re: The Other Forums Gentlemen's Thread for Refined Discussion of Uncouth Behavior
« Reply #4139 on: November 22, 2017, 05:11:10 AM »
Also I hope the readers of this thread appreciate just how many pages of father-son incest comics I had to trawl through to find a panel that fully encapsulated the nature off the work without being eye-searingly pornographic. It’s a real balancing act.
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