River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-disney-is-here-disney-fox-merger-officially-finished.106425/post-19027253

Best day ever, never mind haters, we won!

WE WON

[D3RANG3D]

 

[Momo]

Google fined 1.5 billion Euro

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/australian-isps-blocking-8chan-4chan-liveleak-zerohedge-voat-et-al-for-hosting-christchurch-attack-video.106196/

Who the hell is going to any of those sites for "legitimate" reasons

8chan is just racists and pedos, 4chan is traps and unfunny memes, and live leak is car accidents and murder

Not exactly top tier quality sites

 

User Banned (1 Week): Transphobic rhetoric wnd derogatory language

HEY HEY HEY I DID NOT DELEGATE ANY MOD ADMIRAL POWERS TO HAUGHTYFRANK

 

[BisMarckie]

Google fined 1.5 billion Euro

More money to waste on useless EU projects.

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2020-democratic-presidential-primary-ot-bernie-hires-sirota-after-he-had-written-articles-attacking-rivals.91234/page-318#post-19027185

Ichthyosaurus valiantly fighting the Red Hordes alone

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Rory really is a monster.

Didn’t say “I love you” back to Dean the first time.

Ruined his marriage.

Dumped him for a rich douche.

And so much more.

She can’t keep getting away with it

It's called Moxy.

[VomKriege]

He was asked the other week if he would take any advice from Hillary about running against Trump and uh - it was almost surreal. I'm all about keeping it real - Hillary lost after all -- but he was so instantly angry and apparently oblivious to the fact that Hillary had a LOT of voters he needs that it made me question not just his political and diplomatic instincts but his actual rationality. He's never once demonstrated that kind of deep anger about you know, Donald Trump.

Let's not forget who the real victim is here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2020-democratic-presidential-primary-ot-bernie-hires-sirota-after-he-had-written-articles-attacking-rivals.91234/page-317#post-19023880

During an interview on ABC's "The View" Friday, the Vermont independent senator, who's seeking the Democratic nomination, was asked if he plans to meet with Clinton to talk about 2020, which other Democratic candidates have done already.

"I suspect not. Hillary has not called me. Look, we have differences," Sanders said, before acknowledging that "Hillary has played a very important role in American politics."
Asked if he's interested in any advice from Clinton, Sanders replied, "I think not."
"Hillary and I have fundamental -- you know, fundamental differences. And that's what it is," he explained.

DEEP ANGER 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Bernie has never had anger against trump?


Hahaha holy shit these people are insane.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Counterpoint that might be distinguished mentally-challenged: doesn't stadia open up indie development to make games beyond retro throwbacks now that they don't have to target absolutely base level shitty systems to reach the widest population of players?

Nah, indies make retro styled games for the same reasons indie directors make films about the human condition and not CGI filled popcorn flick blockbusters filled with star power; can't fucking afford it & don't want to.

I dunno if stadia is going to be successful, but its a closer value proposition to "Netflix of gaming" than the console warriors on era want to admit.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Also, what kind of idiot doesn't think Google can't scale up their hardware much faster than me or Sony?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Also, what kind of idiot doesn't think Google can't scale up their hardware much faster than me or Sony?

I mean.. they can't really do it faster than MS.  MS is more experienced in that area and alread has more datacenters / a bigger infrastructure.

But yeah, Sony is a pawn.

xcloud seems like its going to be running actual xbox hardware (and presumably nextbox hardware) blades at their data centres, so you'll be streaming literal xbox games.
stadia is going to be custom hardware PCs, presumably running linux.
It'll be, what, a year? into the next gen console lifecycle where PC Ultra settings are noticably better than a console baseline.

e: but the fact that video of a game at PC Ultra is going to look better than video of the same game at a console baseline with AO / Lightsources / Shadows / etc set to lower values isn't what is going to sell stadia over buying an xbox and a gamepass subscription and an xcloud subscription and an xbl subscription and an EA gamepass subscription.

[Philip Cardgage]

If streaming pans out, the best Sony could hope for is that the playstation becomes the best local gaming platform, but it's going to look dated visually real fast.

[porkbun]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-disney-is-here-disney-fox-merger-officially-finished.106425/#post-19022924

They actually made a celebration thread for a massive corporate merger
Reee becoming a massive Disney shill/fanboy/corporate zombie operation is something else

Because MAH SUPAHERO MOOOOOVIEZ~!!! and MAH REPRESENTATION~!!!

Nevermind that 1-2% of the average budget of these barely passable films (basically the catering bill) going to communities in crisis like Chicago would make a world of difference in the real lives of minorities, rather than lining the pockets of already rich people.

[headwalk]

identity alliances are such absolute nectar for big corps. no-one gives a fuck who or what you exploit to meet your projections as long as you send out your rent-a-mouths to grandstand on the burning social issue du jour.

[Momo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-disney-is-here-disney-fox-merger-officially-finished.106425/post-19027253

Best day ever, never mind haters, we won!

WE WON

https://deadline.com/2017/12/murdoch-stock-disney-fox-deal-1202227525/

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

identity alliances are such absolute nectar for big corps. no-one gives a fuck who or what you exploit to meet your projections as long as you send out your rent-a-mouths to grandstand on the burning social issue du jour.

What? No, Captain Marvel totally stands on its own merits, thats why its got such post release buzz and everyones still talking about it

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

KICKSTARTER PROJECT’S $85,000 RAN OUT A LONG TIME AGO, SAYS ZOE QUINN

In October of 2016 Zoe Quinn and Chuck Tingle managed to secure $85,448 to make a live-action FMV game. In August of 2018 Chuck Tingle claimed he had no involvement with the game, and that it was all in the hands of Zoe Quinn. Updates have been sporadic and infrequent on the Kickstarter page, but the latest update wasn’t on Kickstarter but Twitter.

In the update, posted on March 19th, 2019, 200 days after the last update, Quinn responded to a Twitter user asking about the Kickstarted FMV game based on Chuck Tingle’s characters. Quinn responded with the following…

ran out of money a long time ago, not cool with asking people to work for free, got a day job to start crawling out of debt and in a place where I can properly finish it. this is the day job.

 

I'm just kind of assuming era aren't going to cover zoe quinn scamming people on kickstarter

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Also, what kind of idiot doesn't think Google can't scale up their hardware much faster than me or Sony?

I mean.. they can't really do it faster than MS.  MS is more experienced in that area and alread has more datacenters / a bigger infrastructure.

But yeah, Sony is a pawn.

I mean, in terms of continually upscaling the hardware the games are running on. Instead of just iterating a fews years in between.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ecological-impact-of-stadia.106445/post-19027029

god, yeah, us gamers care soooooooooooo much about the power consumption of our devices, with our 4k TVs and multiple consoles all hooked up simultaneously and all on standby for instant access, I'm totally not grasping at straws to make this threatening new thing look evil

we all bought WiiUs right?

[marrec]

KICKSTARTER PROJECT’S $85,000 RAN OUT A LONG TIME AGO, SAYS ZOE QUINN

In October of 2016 Zoe Quinn and Chuck Tingle managed to secure $85,448 to make a live-action FMV game. In August of 2018 Chuck Tingle claimed he had no involvement with the game, and that it was all in the hands of Zoe Quinn. Updates have been sporadic and infrequent on the Kickstarter page, but the latest update wasn’t on Kickstarter but Twitter.

In the update, posted on March 19th, 2019, 200 days after the last update, Quinn responded to a Twitter user asking about the Kickstarted FMV game based on Chuck Tingle’s characters. Quinn responded with the following…

ran out of money a long time ago, not cool with asking people to work for free, got a day job to start crawling out of debt and in a place where I can properly finish it. this is the day job.

 

I'm just kind of assuming era aren't going to cover zoe quinn scamming people on kickstarter

It'd go a long way if she'd just come out and say "the scope of the project was way beyond what we asked for and we can't finish it" instead of this feckless pity party. I like Quinn and enjoy her work, but I can't say I like what she's done here.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

itchy going in for the next meltdown from hillarygafera. told ya.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User Banned (3 days): Trolling and system warring over multiple posts; previous infractions

Let's be real, if one of the big 3 announced a 10tf console I doubt you would see anyone saying "oh but power consumption, the poor environment". Instead you would have a bunch of excited nerds here salivating over the news.

But I guess it's easy to pick flaws and be supercilious when it's something you deem to be a threat to the things you like (or if it's something you don't like at all).

Sure, resetera mods.
"Trolling".

[HardcoreRetro]

Yeah, I imagine a FMV game for which they apparently already had all the footage shot is way beyond the scope of budget.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The amount of ignorance about tech from era is mind boggling.

[VomKriege]

So many high and middle profiles Kickstarters for games went off rails in that manner, it's not really surprising really and calling it a scam (without any more info) is maybe hyperbole (I'd rather reserve that for Star Citizen).

Turns out making games is expensive still.

[HaughtyFrank]

KICKSTARTER PROJECT’S $85,000 RAN OUT A LONG TIME AGO, SAYS ZOE QUINN

In October of 2016 Zoe Quinn and Chuck Tingle managed to secure $85,448 to make a live-action FMV game. In August of 2018 Chuck Tingle claimed he had no involvement with the game, and that it was all in the hands of Zoe Quinn. Updates have been sporadic and infrequent on the Kickstarter page, but the latest update wasn’t on Kickstarter but Twitter.

In the update, posted on March 19th, 2019, 200 days after the last update, Quinn responded to a Twitter user asking about the Kickstarted FMV game based on Chuck Tingle’s characters. Quinn responded with the following…

ran out of money a long time ago, not cool with asking people to work for free, got a day job to start crawling out of debt and in a place where I can properly finish it. this is the day job.

 

I'm just kind of assuming era aren't going to cover zoe quinn scamming people on kickstarter

"not cool with asking people for something and giving them nothing in return"
The irony is palpable.

[VomKriege]

Also ONE ANGRY GAMER lol.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So many high and middle profiles Kickstarters for games went off rails in that manner, it's not really surprising really and calling it a scam (without any more info) is maybe hyperbole (I'd rather reserve that for Star Citizen).

Turns out making games is expensive still.

I mean... its Black Mirror: Bandersnatch Hard Gay edition... the technical risks of making something that you could make on Youtube with annotations aren't going to be a big financial black hole...

e: Like... you could author it as a DVD and distribute it as an ISO with a link to VLC.

[BisMarckie]

Zoe Quinn should probably refocus on her crash override network. Which can be abbreviated to CON, can't make that shit up. 

[VomKriege]

So many high and middle profiles Kickstarters for games went off rails in that manner, it's not really surprising really and calling it a scam (without any more info) is maybe hyperbole (I'd rather reserve that for Star Citizen).

Turns out making games is expensive still.

I mean... its Black Mirror: Bandersnatch Hard Gay edition... the technical risks of making something that you could make on Youtube with annotations aren't going to be a big financial black hole...

e: Like... you could author it as a DVD and distribute it as an ISO with a link to VLC.

Maybe. But I think we all know by now a lot of Kickstarters have optimistic and unreasonable goals predicated on best case scenarios or some form of additional funding even when led by seasoned and experienced designers. 85,000$ would seem to me as barely enough to pay two persons over a full year. It's awfully meager even for a relatively simple game.

By all means she doesn't get a pass for it. And maybe she mismanaged it, as it stands I don't have any info to lean on that aspect.

[Great Rumbler]

So many high and middle profiles Kickstarters for games went off rails in that manner, it's not really surprising really and calling it a scam (without any more info) is maybe hyperbole (I'd rather reserve that for Star Citizen).

Turns out making games is expensive still.

I mean... its Black Mirror: Bandersnatch Hard Gay edition... the technical risks of making something that you could make on Youtube with annotations aren't going to be a big financial black hole...

e: Like... you could author it as a DVD and distribute it as an ISO with a link to VLC.

I mean...you still gotta hire actors, rent/buy recording equipment, buy props/costumes, commission music and sound, pay an editor, ect. It's probably more expensive than a traditional game because one or two people couldn't actually make the game themselves working on the side.

[Straight Edge]

KICKSTARTER PROJECT’S $85,000 RAN OUT A LONG TIME AGO, SAYS ZOE QUINN

In October of 2016 Zoe Quinn and Chuck Tingle managed to secure $85,448 to make a live-action FMV game. In August of 2018 Chuck Tingle claimed he had no involvement with the game, and that it was all in the hands of Zoe Quinn. Updates have been sporadic and infrequent on the Kickstarter page, but the latest update wasn’t on Kickstarter but Twitter.

In the update, posted on March 19th, 2019, 200 days after the last update, Quinn responded to a Twitter user asking about the Kickstarted FMV game based on Chuck Tingle’s characters. Quinn responded with the following…

ran out of money a long time ago, not cool with asking people to work for free, got a day job to start crawling out of debt and in a place where I can properly finish it. this is the day job.

 

I'm just kind of assuming era aren't going to cover zoe quinn scamming people on kickstarter

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kickstarted-in-the-butt-what-happened-to-project-tingler.65318/#post-12097387

..you do know what happened to Zoe Quinn in 2014, right? Which would provide a pretty damn reasonable explanation why a game she was working on would be abandoned?

It wasn’t Kickstarted, anyway, just similarly an FMV game; it was a “project” in the sense it was a thing she was working on, not in the sense that it was on Kickstarter.

[BisMarckie]

My cyncial take is that everyone all too willing to accept patreon money for their 'contribution' to the culture war are just grifters and scam artists. Be it Anita Sarkeesian or Zoe Quinn  or Ben Shapiro.

[HardcoreRetro]

Don't worry people. This was one of the risks.

"Also my cat sits on my keyboard a lot which is a real difficulty and I want you to know that. It's an ongoing challenge and makes it hard to type. I don't have a solution to this problem."

Luckily her internet followers know exactly how to solve a cat problem. Dogpile the cat.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/703752115/kickstarted-in-the-butt-a-chuck-tingle-digital-adv

The greatest funding requirement is the cost of filming the entire game as an FMV Adventure. Why are we going back to a decades-old form of game making that was hastily abandoned and literally no one asked for? Because we are dedicated to pouring our hearts into crafting ridiculously awesome things quite seriously, and FMV matches the stock photography style of Chuck's covers. We’ve spent a considerable amount of our own money and countless hours (we’re not joking. We’re too sleepy to count anything right now) to develop a game that truly emulates the distinct feel of a Chuck Tingle novel.

Over the last few months we’ve experimented with production pipelines and the tech, and we’ve done multiple shoots, so we know how to minimize risks and waste that can come from needing to re-shoot footage. We've prototyped out a level that meets our standards, because we didn’t want to come to you before we’d eliminated the biggest, girthiest risks in creating the game! Project Tingler has been hard in development for almost a year at this point, and we are well-equipped to handle the challenges that naturally arouse during the process, including ones that aren't exclusive to working in FMV.

The core team has shipped a combined 12 games in the past 5 years, and we're well-versed in how to finish a game and accurately budget (ignore what we just said about not being able to count).

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Maybe. But I think we all know by now a lot of Kickstarters have optimistic and unreasonable goals predicated on best case scenarios or some form of additional funding even when led by seasoned and experienced designers. 85,000$ would seem to me as barely enough to pay two persons over a full year. It's awfully meager even for a relatively simple game.

By all means she doesn't get a pass for it. And maybe she mismanaged it, as it stands I don't have any info to lean on that aspect.

I mean...you still gotta hire actors, rent/buy recording equipment, buy props/costumes, commission music and sound, pay an editor, ect. It's probably more expensive than a traditional game because one or two people couldn't actually make the game themselves working on the side.

She seemed pretty confident all that was covered when she invited Vice to come along and film her filming it 


e: don't get me wrong, I don't have a hate boner for her, but this reeks of 'scam' not 'reach exceeding grasp'

[benjipwns]

Zoe Quinn should probably refocus on her crash override network. Which can be abbreviated to CON, can't make that shit up. 

That was shutdown in 2016.

[benjipwns]

I like Quinn and enjoy her work

what exactly would that be again? her "memoir" about GamerGate?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

speaking of reaching
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fragility-of-the-internet-is-another-good-reason-why-streaming-is-not-the-future.106471/post-19029206

Digital attacks aren't the only worry, undersea cables can easily be cut, either intentionally or accidentally. Hell, sharks sometimes attack undersea cables

[Straight Edge]

Electric devices are not the future. Power plants can have outages.

[HaughtyFrank]

It's true. A world war could severely affect my streaming experience

[Great Rumbler]

speaking of reaching
https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-fragility-of-the-internet-is-another-good-reason-why-streaming-is-not-the-future.106471/post-19029206

Digital attacks aren't the only worry, undersea cables can easily be cut, either intentionally or accidentally. Hell, sharks sometimes attack undersea cables

"Stadia might be risky because undersea communications cables can get bitten in half by sharks!"

[BisMarckie]

Zoe Quinn should probably refocus on her crash override network. Which can be abbreviated to CON, can't make that shit up. 

That was shutdown in 2016.

I know, the wikipedia entry is a doozy.

[benjipwns]

undersea cables can "easily be cut" "accidentally" since when?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

[bork]

I like Quinn and enjoy her work

what exactly would that be again? her "memoir" about GamerGate?

Did someone film her fucking all those journos?

[HardcoreRetro]

She did do that shoot for suicide girls or some cheap rip off site or something.

[BisMarckie]

undersea cables can "easily be cut" "accidentally" since when?

[bork]

KICKSTARTER PROJECT’S $85,000 RAN OUT A LONG TIME AGO, SAYS ZOE QUINN

In October of 2016 Zoe Quinn and Chuck Tingle managed to secure $85,448 to make a live-action FMV game. In August of 2018 Chuck Tingle claimed he had no involvement with the game, and that it was all in the hands of Zoe Quinn. Updates have been sporadic and infrequent on the Kickstarter page, but the latest update wasn’t on Kickstarter but Twitter.

In the update, posted on March 19th, 2019, 200 days after the last update, Quinn responded to a Twitter user asking about the Kickstarted FMV game based on Chuck Tingle’s characters. Quinn responded with the following…

ran out of money a long time ago, not cool with asking people to work for free, got a day job to start crawling out of debt and in a place where I can properly finish it. this is the day job.

 

I'm just kind of assuming era aren't going to cover zoe quinn scamming people on kickstarter

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kickstarted-in-the-butt-what-happened-to-project-tingler.65318/#post-12097387

..you do know what happened to Zoe Quinn in 2014, right? Which would provide a pretty damn reasonable explanation why a game she was working on would be abandoned?

It wasn’t Kickstarted, anyway, just similarly an FMV game; it was a “project” in the sense it was a thing she was working on, not in the sense that it was on Kickstarter.

Instead of focusing on gamergate nonsense, maybe they should remember that she asked for a bunch of cash and then went to live off it in Tokyo for like six months. 

[HardcoreRetro]

Work together with some electric eels to do a makeshift emp attack on the cables.

[benjipwns]

post makes it sound like you drag anything on the ocean floor you'll just cut off the entire internet

[benjipwns]

Bernard's probably coordinating with his Russian masters to send fleets of sharks against the undersea cables so that Cheebs and Kirblar can never return

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

this elaborate aquaman astroturfing is getting out of hand

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Also, what kind of idiot doesn't think Google can't scale up their hardware much faster than me or Sony?

I mean.. they can't really do it faster than MS.  MS is more experienced in that area and alread has more datacenters / a bigger infrastructure.

But yeah, Sony is a pawn.

I mean, in terms of continually upscaling the hardware the games are running on. Instead of just iterating a fews years in between.

Fat chance this will catch on enough to justify hardware upgrades across the world in data centers for more 1337 graphics that quickly.

People have really unrealistic expectations of game streaming.

I would be surprised if the stadia "module" even exists as an actual thing and not just a deferment of existing resources.

[HardcoreRetro]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

why am i talking about gamez

doxx me benji


(just kidding)


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Isn't twitter often acredited for Trump's victory?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Fat chance this will catch on enough to justify hardware upgrades across the world in data centers for more 1337 graphics that quickly.

People have really unrealistic expectations of game streaming.

I would be surprised if the stadia "module" even exists as an actual thing and not just a deferment of existing resources.

MS have already said that their xcloud solution is an xbox SOC blade (well, it seems like they're going to have multiple xbox SOCs on one blade), and the stadia isn't a SOC, its seperate components, so yeah... I don't see how an SOC is ever going to be more upgradable than just adding a newer GPU / more RAM / a newer CPU on a server blade is going to be.

e:
the actual 'killer app' of this shit compared to modern day console shittiness is they're using SSDs for errrrrrthing.
So while "good ole reliable physical disks" is going to be the same fucking shitty "Please wait an actual fucking hour while we copy data over because we're still pretending physical disks are more convenient for some reason" and then you're playing off the cheapest RPM HDD the console manufacturer could buy in bulk, that shits going to be instantaneous streamed.

[VomKriege]

why am i talking about gamez

doxx me benji


(just kidding)


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Isn't twitter often acredited for Trump's victory?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2020-democratic-presidential-primary-ot-bernie-hires-sirota-after-he-had-written-articles-attacking-rivals.91234/page-319#post-19033162

[benjipwns]

I still don't understand how Zoe Tiberius Quinn was even ever a thing, or any of those other people I'd never heard of before or since and still don't know the names of because they didn't write a memoir that goes on for chapters about how they have mental issues which means nothing is their fault ever.

Also, I've mentioned before that I think her birth name of Chelsea Van Valkenburg is way a better name than Zoe Tiberius Quinn.