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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53520 on: October 29, 2019, 10:13:43 PM »
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Also, profiting from basic needs is how our system is set up. Farmers profit from basic human needs as well. Me wanting the system to change so people can be provided these basic needs isn't all that hilarious.
I don't think you want it changed, not in any way that would substantially help people.
Baseless assumption since you don't know me, but that's fine if you'd like to believe that.
A reasonable assumption
is this hostility and antagonizing another user

EightBitNate

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53521 on: October 29, 2019, 10:14:17 PM »
Even ignoring the arguable nature that this is how things "need" to be. Landlords don't even produce the basic need of housing. That house was not built by the landlord, and management of the property is not in itself productive. Landlords don't produce anything, they just profit from limiting access to already existing housing infrastructure.

Do these people have actual alternatives to rent? Or do they just want to bitch?

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53522 on: October 29, 2019, 10:14:25 PM »
Seize the means of production from your landlord!  Tenants rise up!!
The key is to go after your landlord‘s entire family, that way nobody will come looking for them when they’re gone. I know what you’re thinking, “what about their friends?” Don’t worry landlords don’t have any friends.

 :ohyou :woody :crowdlaff :aweshum

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shosta

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53523 on: October 29, 2019, 10:15:18 PM »
The key is to go after your landlord‘s entire family, that way nobody will come looking for them when they’re gone. I know what you’re thinking, “what about their friends?” Don’t worry landlords don’t have any friends.

 :ohyou :woody :crowdlaff :aweshum

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boredfrom's family is first, he should have kept quiet
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benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53524 on: October 29, 2019, 10:15:32 PM »
Do these people have actual alternatives to rent? Or do they just want to bitch?
Why are you assuming "if renting houses wasn't a thing" then that would mean "there are no houses"

EightBitNate

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53525 on: October 29, 2019, 10:17:59 PM »
Do these people have actual alternatives to rent? Or do they just want to bitch?
Why are you assuming "if renting houses wasn't a thing" then that would mean "there are no houses"

Lol I bet the answer is something like “the government should pay for it”.

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53526 on: October 29, 2019, 10:18:17 PM »
renting is such shit, build some equity  :morans
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53527 on: October 29, 2019, 10:18:32 PM »
How do you get a landlord out of a tree? Cut the rope.

4 more jokes go 2 http://www.jokes4us.com/peoplejokes/landlordjokes.html

 

shosta

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53528 on: October 29, 2019, 10:23:30 PM »
Do these people have actual alternatives to rent? Or do they just want to bitch?
Lol I bet the answer is something like “the government should pay for it”.
I don't think you've really thought about where housing comes from before
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53529 on: October 29, 2019, 10:24:35 PM »

Boredfrom

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« Reply #53530 on: October 29, 2019, 10:24:52 PM »
1) you're in Mexico, not some shithole like Papua New Guinea or Zambia, so don't try to pull some victim card out on me or act like you're bringing civilization to the wilderness :lol

Most people here consider the country a third world one. Yes is hyperbole, and part of our own victim complex, but this is hardly San Francisco and where the building is sure as hell is not exactly that friendly.

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2) I can only speak for me, but I don't think the average landlord is an evil person or anything, they fill a need in society and that's just the way things work

Then you imagine why I’m pissed off about the idea of “landlords get free money” or RE seriously debating how amoral is private property (I can understand the idea from a intellectual standpoint, but people at RE are talking about it like everything is a housing crisis in the middle of San Francisco).

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3) You haven't even bothered to ask me what I think or why I think it yet

Probably because you are making jokes about leeches.

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4) build the wall

And the USA is paying for it.

benjipwns

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« Reply #53531 on: October 29, 2019, 10:37:43 PM »
How do you get a landlord out of a tree? Cut the rope.

4 more jokes go 2 http://www.jokes4us.com/peoplejokes/landlordjokes.html

 
Did you hear about the landlord? She enjoys long romantic walks to the Bank of America.

source: http://www.jokes4us.com/peoplejokes/landlordjokes.html

benjipwns

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« Reply #53532 on: October 29, 2019, 10:38:48 PM »
One way would be the tax the shit out of profits. A business only needs to make enough money to meet overheads, so production can be adjusted to meet overheads.
:brain

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53533 on: October 29, 2019, 10:39:21 PM »
Do these people have actual alternatives to rent? Or do they just want to bitch?
Lol I bet the answer is something like “the government should pay for it”.
I don't think you've really thought about where housing comes from before

Then enlighten me

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« Reply #53534 on: October 29, 2019, 10:39:27 PM »
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Maybe you should direct your anger to the person who owned the land first, and try to convince them they have no right to profit on their purchase.
I know more than a few Native Americans that would love to have this chat lol
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« Reply #53535 on: October 29, 2019, 10:40:48 PM »
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As someone who works for the government
*deletes contents of dossier, replaces with just this*

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« Reply #53536 on: October 29, 2019, 10:58:57 PM »
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So, wait, you thought I didn't know various taxes lead to the construction of roads? Ontario does it through motorists and other taxes.
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benjipwns

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« Reply #53537 on: October 29, 2019, 11:01:52 PM »
I am a landlord and don’t believe I’m doing anything unethical whatsoever.
jesus christ this site is full of them, it really is unsafe for minorities and women

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« Reply #53538 on: October 29, 2019, 11:03:38 PM »
I am a landlord and don’t believe I’m doing anything unethical whatsoever.
jesus christ this site is full of them, it really is unsafe for minorities and women

What if a landlord is a woman?

benjipwns

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« Reply #53539 on: October 29, 2019, 11:05:51 PM »
What if a landlord is a woman?
you mean like the white women who protested just to offend Shy, a black British man?

gender and class traitors

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« Reply #53540 on: October 29, 2019, 11:11:23 PM »
How do you get a landlord out of a tree? Cut the rope.
The rope to a tree house? As that's just about what most people could afford in San Francisco.
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« Reply #53541 on: October 29, 2019, 11:11:33 PM »
I am a landlord and don’t believe I’m doing anything unethical whatsoever.
jesus christ this site is full of them, it really is unsafe for minorities and women

What if a landlord is a woman?

White Landlord feminism must be stopped.

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« Reply #53542 on: October 29, 2019, 11:14:25 PM »
:yikes
Mike Fahey and Brian Ashcroft have basically been mega creepos on Kotaku for like a decade and flew under the reset woke radar somehow.

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« Reply #53543 on: October 29, 2019, 11:26:32 PM »
How do you get a landlord out of a tree? Cut the rope.
The rope to a tree house? As that's just about what most people could afford in San Francisco.
Yes but you’re not considering all the money landlorx spend cleaning up baseball cards because these of lazy renterx. I myself have had to pay baseball card cleaners twice within the last 2 years.

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« Reply #53544 on: October 29, 2019, 11:33:08 PM »
Then you imagine why I’m pissed off about the idea of “landlords get free money” or RE seriously debating how amoral is private property (I can understand the idea from a intellectual standpoint, but people at RE are talking about it like everything is a housing crisis in the middle of San Francisco).
I don't really give a fuck about RE and if you understand it from an intellectual standpoint then I guess I don't have to explain it

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Probably because you are making jokes about leeches.
ok I guess I do have to explain it.
- when a good is scarce, the price is determined by supply demand equilibrium. If there are 5 bananas and 50 people who would pay $1 or more for that banana (and the other 45 people want it for like 50 cents or whatever) then the price of the banana is $1. Thus price solves the question of distribution of scarce goods.
- price - cost = profit. Profit margins around 5-10% are normal for competitive markets. The higher the profit margin is, the more likely people are to come into the market and undercut existing suppliers, which will bring the cost down to production. Voila, free market capitalism.
- but this is only if the suppliers can increase supply to match the total demand! Some goods will always be scarce, like land, or uranium. These kinds of goods will still be subject to supply demand equilibrium pricing, and thus, well above cost. Great news for the producer, bad news for the consumer.
- What's the cost in housing? It's the cost of building the house or apartment building or whatever. That's what rent pays for - development.
- But once the cost of building is paid for, the property still continues to generate revenue. And it will always generate revenue as long as someone lives in it that doesn't own it. That's the definition of rent-seeking: continuously extracting money without producing something new.
- So what determines the price of rent? The income of the renters living in the area. And that goes for property prices, too - they're determined by the amount of money you can extract from the people living there.
- Rent seeking is cost above production and cost above production is wasted money. Rent is a giant tax from the working class (which produces things) to the property owning class (which does not produce anything). It is a 20 - 30% income tax on the productive members of society. In urban centers especially it is an anvil on people's necks.
- THAT'S why you're a leech. You're not doing anything for that money. You're not producing a good or a service, money is falling out of the sky for you because you happen to be the property owner. I don't care how much you're personally struggling or if you're losing money or whatever, this is purely about the abstract relationship between consumption, production, and property rights.
- If housing was socially owned then housing would only cost society whatever it costs to build the housing, plus maintenance.
- Housing would still be scarce, but society could choose to use a different distribution mechanism. It could tie this to employment ("you're allowed to move here if you have a job offer") and build new housing through the issuance of bonds (because why would you build new housing if you didn't expect growth?). You could also auction apartments based on a monthly "rent", so the most sought after housing is still allocated to the most productive people, but they wouldn't actually have to lose this money. Maybe it goes into a sovereign wealth fund, or a public bank that funds loans for local projects, and when you leave you can get all your money back (people don't frequently move out of the city they live in). Bonus: if rents are high because people want to live there, there's a lot more money laying around in the fund for new housing. There is a lot of room for experimentation.
- You'd also solve involuntary homeless.

The long term goal of socialism is the total elimination of private property and meeting everyone's needs. But long before that you could totally socialize housing alongside a free market capitalist society and meet everyone's housing needs based on proportionate contribution... just like how in most developed countries we've already socialized primary/secondary education, healthcare, utilities, and even higher education. It's not about free shit for lazy people, it's about 1) society only paying for goods at cost, not at cost + profit and 2) achieving abundance wherever it is possible.
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« Reply #53545 on: October 29, 2019, 11:33:46 PM »
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« Reply #53546 on: October 29, 2019, 11:37:10 PM »
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« Reply #53547 on: October 29, 2019, 11:38:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot2-i-have-no-pants-and-i-must-scream-read-op.65064/post-25865726
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So I'm stuck in a hospital bed for the next few days but is it true that Parvati is asexual homoromantic? Because that would mean a lot to me.

Also hey I'm alive y'all. Surgery was a success.
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Asexual lesbian representation? That's pretty cool.

Welcome back Xaszatm. 🙂
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Having a brown lady be the first companion you get, and she's just such a great character too?

Feels good.
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hmm honestly hope i dont annoy the ace users here cause they are some of my favorite users on this site but id just like to be in the know and understand things better, so when i hear a same sex attracted queer character is gonna be in something idk id like them to actually be with someone ya know?
Well i dont play this game how is it? How do they go about this characters aceness but also the fact that they are wlw??

I've never been a fan of the split attraction model, cause when i say im bisexual i mean it in the romantic and physical sense, it sucks that my bisexuality is already seen as sexual as it is now "biromantic" must be added to make sure people know what means, it really helps bigoted people to immediatly see same sex attracted indivituals as just in it for sex when we say were 'homosexual' or 'bisexual'. So now i have to ask what they mean when someone says they're 'ace' because the split attraction model is so much more used there :/

So like how does it go for the ace users here and honestly in fictional media as a whole?
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"ace" is just asexual, while if you see someone use "ace/aro", they explicitly mean asexual/aromatic. Ace can also be an umbrella term and can include ace/aro and other orientations. Here's a little comic about it if you're interested.
https://twitter.com/sdamned/status/963837186008215552
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I personally have yet to play the game (I don't think the hospital will allow me to set up a PS4 here and my laptop will be hot enough to cook an egg if I ran it) but from what I've seen it does seem to show both. However I'll wait till I have the game in my hands before giving a more detailed opinion.

For me I'm Asexual/Aromantic so I usually just say Ace or Aseuxal for myself. For me, and this may be biases showing, when I see bisexual I usually assume biromantic is attached as well unless told otherwise. Some with gay men and lesbian women, I assume they are homoromantic unless told otherwise. (By the way let me know if this isn't right since I want to make sure I'm not causing unnecessary harm in my assumptions). For asexual people I will usually assume aromantic as well unless I'm shown otherwise. However for me I to meet a lot more asexual people than others (I can't say how but it turned out many people I befriended on the internet and irl turn out to be asexual so maybe we all subconsciously attract each other) so I am more aware of asexual nonaromantic people so I tend to be less assumptive as a result. Again let me know if my assumptions on sexuality and romance in other LGBT+ is incorrect.

This might be going away from the premise of the thread but for me asexual in media is...annoying. There are a bunch of people who can certainly be ace but usually it's portrayed as that person being chaste rather than actually asexual. It really feels like they just didn't make any reference to the sexuality of a character rather than actually making an asexual character. So I am really excited that they are making someone explicitly ace.
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I think for allosexual people it's pretty safe to assume that romantic orientation and sexual orientation align. I refer to myself as a lesbian and I'm okay with people assuming that I'm homoromantic and homosexual. (Though I've pondering if I'm actually gray-ace in terms of my sexual orientation.) Usually people will specify otherwise if they don't want that assumption to be made. Though "lesbian" these days has a broader meaning
than it used to, at least in some progressive circles, to include non-binary people that aren't man-aligned. (Which is a whole other can of worms.) A lot of people don't put a lot of thought into the topic. I was just discussing the divide between romantic and sexual orientation with my girlfriend yesterday and opened her eyes on the topic.

Meanwhile in other womens criticizing:
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It always feels grosser knowing a lot of these older game companies weren't always like this. Like, there was a time when Valkyrie Profile or the Persona series were, in spite of some of their more ridiculous pieces, at least respectful of their characters and arcs. There was technically even a time when some of the porn was at least attempting to fight against censorship and some of the more draconian laws of the time, but now it's all just been twisted up into the same weird fetishes repeated, and disgust simply attempting to one-up some other piece of trash for "worst imagination ever."

It's no longer parody when companies become the thing they criticize. Which I guess at this point is most game companies of a certain market share. I'd like to say indies are free of it but most aren't (and the worst of them are far more embedded in their misogyny).
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The primary audience are otaku who are willing to burn tons of cash on these games, the merchandise, and DLC outfits. It isn't just a JRPG problem, this happens with a lot of anime and manga franchises. Sex sells, especially among Japanese consumers. Shonen Jump is aimed at 10-16 year old boys and has tons of fanservice, including recently a manga that was controversial called Yuuna And The Haunted Hot Springs, which is basically... well, you can infer what it's about.

I think the big shift will be when the population ages up and suddenly the bubble bursts and there are less people under 30 because they aren't having kids. Then who will be left to consume this material? It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The weirdo perv shit increases because the dedicated otaku consumer likes it, but the average consumer is more and more turned away by it the more they put in. I don't know if JRPG fans will "rise up" so much as eventually the otaku market will be whittled down to next to nothing.
well, good luck

EightBitNate

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53548 on: October 29, 2019, 11:41:18 PM »
Then you imagine why I’m pissed off about the idea of “landlords get free money” or RE seriously debating how amoral is private property (I can understand the idea from a intellectual standpoint, but people at RE are talking about it like everything is a housing crisis in the middle of San Francisco).
I don't really give a fuck about RE and if you understand it from an intellectual standpoint then I guess I don't have to explain it

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Probably because you are making jokes about leeches.
ok I guess I do have to explain it.
- when a good is scarce, the price is determined by supply demand equilibrium. If there are 5 bananas and 50 people who would pay $1 or more for that banana (and the other 45 people want it for like 50 cents or whatever) then the price of the banana is $1. Thus price solves the question of distribution of scarce goods.
- price - cost = profit. Profit margins around 5-10% are normal for competitive markets. The higher the profit margin is, the more likely people are to come into the market and undercut existing suppliers, which will bring the cost down to production. Voila, free market capitalism.
- but this is only if the suppliers can increase supply to match the total demand! Some goods will always be scarce, like land, or uranium. These kinds of goods will still be subject to supply demand equilibrium pricing, and thus, well above cost. Great news for the producer, bad news for the consumer.
- What's the cost in housing? It's the cost of building the house or apartment building or whatever. That's what rent pays for - development.
- But once the cost of building is paid for, the property still continues to generate revenue. And it will always generate revenue as long as someone lives in it that doesn't own it. That's the definition of rent-seeking: continuously extracting money without producing something new.
- So what determines the price of rent? The income of the renters living in the area. And that goes for property prices, too - they're determined by the amount of money you can extract from the people living there.
- Rent seeking is cost above production and cost above production is wasted money. Rent is a giant tax from the working class (which produces things) to the property owning class (which does not produce anything). It is a 20 - 30% income tax on the productive members of society. In urban centers especially it is an anvil on people's necks.
- THAT'S why you're a leech. You're not doing anything for that money. You're not producing a good or a service, money is falling out of the sky for you because you happen to be the property owner. I don't care how much you're personally struggling or if you're losing money or whatever, this is purely about the abstract relationship between consumption, production, and property rights.
- If housing was socially owned then housing would only cost society whatever it costs to build the housing, plus maintenance.
- Housing would still be scarce, but society could choose to use a different distribution mechanism. It could tie this to employment ("you're allowed to move here if you have a job offer") and build new housing through the issuance of bonds (because why would you build new housing if you didn't expect growth?). You could also auction apartments based on a monthly "rent", so the most sought after housing is still allocated to the most productive people, but they wouldn't actually have to lose this money. Maybe it goes into a sovereign wealth fund, or a public bank that funds loans for local projects, and when you leave you can get all your money back (people don't frequently move out of the city they live in). Bonus: if rents are high because people want to live there, there's a lot more money laying around in the fund for new housing. There is a lot of room for experimentation.
- You'd also solve involuntary homeless.

The long term goal of socialism is the total elimination of private property and meeting everyone's needs. But long before that you could totally socialize housing alongside a free market capitalist society and meet everyone's housing needs based on proportionate contribution... just like how in most developed countries we've already socialized primary/secondary education, healthcare, utilities, and even higher education. It's not about free shit for lazy people, it's about 1) society only paying for goods at cost, not at cost + profit and 2) achieving abundance wherever it is possible.

No ones reading all of that fuck you

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« Reply #53549 on: October 29, 2019, 11:46:38 PM »
Comrade Benji, can you point me to brainchilds last stand?
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« Reply #53550 on: October 29, 2019, 11:49:54 PM »
don't worry, I made this one shorter for you
Then enlighten me
Under socialism:
- You pay for the cost of housing through a government tax. The tax covers the cost of building the housing. That's all you have to pay for.

Under capitalism:
- Someone bought that property from someone else for the price of the property.
- The price of the property is a reflection of its revenue generating potential (either through use as a small business or through the bloodletting of the working class). This is why cities love property taxes: taxes on the value of a property are an indirect tax on citywide incomes and almost impossible to avoid.
- The typical property owner aims to recover the cost of purchasing that property over the course of 5 to 7 years. Put another way, the price of the property is generally about what the buyer expects he can extract as rent over 5 to 7 years. This includes the cost of tearing the building down and putting a bigger one up, if that applies.
- Once the property has "paid for itself" it's free money time. The property owner can sit back and the renters pay the owner as long as they live there.
- Rent is going to be pushed up as high as the people living in that city can stand it because your desire to not be homeless exceeds every other desire you have. So... 30 - 50% of average incomes.

So either way, you have to pay for housing through an income tax. Except under socialism, that tax money goes to something else useful, whereas under capitalism it's an even higher tax and it's just a shitty transfer payment from you, a hardworking electrical engineer, to some guy who literally produces nothing for you (because the cost of the building was paid off thirty years ago).
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53551 on: October 29, 2019, 11:55:46 PM »
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- THAT'S why you're a leech. You're not doing anything for that money. You're not producing a good or a service, money is falling out of the sky for you because you happen to be the property owner. I don't care how much you're personally struggling or if you're losing money or whatever, this is purely about the abstract relationship between consumption, production, and property rights.

 :dayum

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It's not about free shit for lazy people,

Tylerrob seems to be the living proof this is the case.


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« Reply #53553 on: October 30, 2019, 12:00:15 AM »
User banned (1 week): inappropriate comment

I personally think both Kotaku and Polygon are shit, so I'm not sad about this news...
User banned (2 weeks): inappropriate comment, history of similar

I don't like the site and not a fan of Jason. Wouldn't mind not seeing his name again.

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« Reply #53554 on: October 30, 2019, 12:06:02 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-of-kotaku-posts-a-really-ominous-tweet.149966/page-8#post-25925582
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You're right, they aren't. They're Kotaku. They have their own voice and have done incredible things with it. New Yorker has posted some dumb shit too, like Jon Franzen's trash climate change take.

But you're right. Totally valueless site.

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I'm tired of this dumbass hot take narrative that Kotaku is worthless rubbish and hasn't done anything of value. It's bullshit. Kotaku has done far more in the space of investigative journalism than ANY OTHER gaming focused website.


Come the fuck on.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jason-schreier-of-kotaku-posts-a-really-ominous-tweet.149966/page-9
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Boom. When you dis Kotaku you dis yourself, folks. Schreier is one of the only people in the gaming press doing any kind of worthwhile investigative journalism and Tim Rogers is on fire all day every day.

Boom. When you dis Kotaku you dis yourself, folks.
:ufup
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53555 on: October 30, 2019, 12:07:31 AM »
benji I saw you take away that like and now I'm screaming at you in my head in tagalog
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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53556 on: October 30, 2019, 12:08:19 AM »
even Jason saved most of his work for his two books (one is upcoming) rather than give it to Kotaku :hitler

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Disclosure: I gave a total of two American dollars to Amazon, his publisher, his literary agent and himself.
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« Reply #53558 on: October 30, 2019, 12:24:52 AM »
 ??? :bobby
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zepblackstar

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53559 on: October 30, 2019, 12:26:40 AM »
He mad he will never get a gig there now.

https://twitter.com/the_moviebob/status/1189331276190363649

I do feel kinda sorry for Kotaku writers because they can act like they  brush it off but considering their mentality it has to sting so many people are jumping on the grave being dug

remy

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53560 on: October 30, 2019, 12:29:38 AM »
If the Gawker writers are such talented journalists couldn't they just branch off and go independent like gaming journalist and human icon Jeff Gerstmann did after kanenlynchgate?

I don't get the big deal. If anything they've been freed from their corporate shackles  :brain
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benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53561 on: October 30, 2019, 12:34:18 AM »
It's okay, they're unionized.

zepblackstar

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53562 on: October 30, 2019, 12:38:37 AM »
unionizing in media is basically giving the owners and shareholders a easier way to fire you because they know on paper how much it is going to cost. It is like Vice who cheered unionization and two month later a bunch got fired.

It's okay, they're unionized.


more patreons and kickstarter where they write to a niche audience and zero impact to the rest of the world? Sold!
If the Gawker writers are such talented journalists couldn't they just branch off and go independent like gaming journalist and human icon Jeff Gerstmann did after kanenlynchgate?

I don't get the big deal. If anything they've been freed from their corporate shackles  :brain

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53563 on: October 30, 2019, 12:40:10 AM »
Have they tried simply ending capitalism?

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53564 on: October 30, 2019, 12:42:14 AM »
Attention Kotaku writers, @BenjiSales and the greater Benji Network is not hiring unless you're considering a career change.

To bounty hunter, seems some employees have taken advantage of the privilege of going home.

edit: To those inquiring, yes, dead or alive is fine, the former comes with less paperwork though.

benjipwns

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remy

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53567 on: October 30, 2019, 12:51:08 AM »

Averon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53568 on: October 30, 2019, 12:53:49 AM »
I don't know what these journos (i.e. bloggers) expect. This brand of reporting they operate under where they wax poetic on nonsensical tangents, shit on their readership on Twitter and in their reporting, and are overly hostile to anyone outside their personal and/or ideological sphere isn't conducive to maintaining a large, loyal following that can sustain a business. And look at that? When you act like that, people cheer at the thought of you losing your job. People like to see those they perceive as smug assholes get thrown off their pedestal.

Tripon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53569 on: October 30, 2019, 12:53:55 AM »
If the Gawker writers are such talented journalists couldn't they just branch off and go independent like gaming journalist and human icon Jeff Gerstmann did after kanenlynchgate?

I don't get the big deal. If anything they've been freed from their corporate shackles  :brain

Gerstmann did way more than that. They had to get funding for Giant bomb, and create a new company on a shoestring budget and a skeleton crew. Giant bomb had some investor money behind it before it got bought out by CBS. I don't see anybody at Kotaku being able to do that. And who knows if anybody will fund a paetron for any of their writers.

Averon

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53570 on: October 30, 2019, 12:59:55 AM »
If the Gawker writers are such talented journalists couldn't they just branch off and go independent like gaming journalist and human icon Jeff Gerstmann did after kanenlynchgate?

I don't get the big deal. If anything they've been freed from their corporate shackles  :brain

Do you think these writers have the talent to build a loyal fanbase large enough to sustain a viable, profitable business? These people can whine about capitalism all they want, but you need an actual userbase that want to read/watch your shit on a regular basis to remain a viable business. Having you userbase limited to ResetERA and WayPoint forums is super niche.
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zepblackstar

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53571 on: October 30, 2019, 01:00:11 AM »
Even Denton who owned Gawker and these sites before when he got sued by Hulk Hogan realized too late that he created a monster where you had a bunch of kids who thought they had free reign to do whatever they wanted.

The last big scandal was "Gawker Helps Gay Escort Blackmail Timothy Geithner’s Brother" Denton was like no, this is not journalism and took it down. The editors threw a fit. That is how irresponsible they are over there

I don't know what these journos (i.e. bloggers) expect. This brand of reporting they operate under where they wax poetic on nonsensical tangents, shit on their readership on Twitter and in their reporting, and are overly hostile to anyone outside their personal and/or ideological sphere isn't conducive to maintaining a large, loyal following that can sustain a business. And look at that? When you act like that, people cheer at the thought of you losing your job. People like to see those they perceive as smug assholes get thrown off their pedestal.


benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53573 on: October 30, 2019, 01:06:24 AM »
Call out culture doesn't exist. Obama is a lying capitalist pig dog who needs to be put against the wall.

And read inspirational Juche poems until he recognizes the error of his ways.


benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53575 on: October 30, 2019, 01:09:13 AM »
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Looking forward to this thread
You're not helping.

Let's avoid metacommentary and discuss the substance of Obama's words, shall we?
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This shit should be ban-worthy. It’s lazy and counterproductive
You're not helping either. Stop.
I don't recognize your authority outside of OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS harlot.

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53576 on: October 30, 2019, 01:10:00 AM »

El Babua

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53577 on: October 30, 2019, 01:10:39 AM »
Obama going on his neoliberal lecture tour after spending all his military power droning brown kids  :yuck

remy

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53578 on: October 30, 2019, 01:11:18 AM »
If the Gawker writers are such talented journalists couldn't they just branch off and go independent like gaming journalist and human icon Jeff Gerstmann did after kanenlynchgate?

I don't get the big deal. If anything they've been freed from their corporate shackles  :brain

Do you think these writers have the talent to build a loyal fanbase large enough to sustain a viable, profitable business? These people can whine about capitalism all they want, but you need an actual userbase that want to read/watch your shit on a regular basis to remain a viable business. Having you userbase limited to ResetERA and and WayPoint forums is super niche.
Absolutely not lmao. I fucking hate reading Kotaku as a rule and the only thing salvageable from it was Tim Rogers, who it seems everyone but me hates. Kotaku had a bizarre effect on me that the more I scrolled the page down the further my eyes rolled into my head, as if connected by a string

But I also think it's not like Gerstmann was super duper popular before giant bomb  :brain

benjipwns

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Re: River Of Slime |OT| Mission: Impossible
« Reply #53579 on: October 30, 2019, 01:16:41 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/are-landlords-inherently-unethical.150022/post-25923192
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It kind of feels like it's showing exactly that? Being told you're unethical for not letting people live on your property for free is .. something. I can't imagine many other social circles anyone would say that with a straight face.
I have seen this take a lot in leftist circles, people in here shocked at the notion are proving my point.
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It's just such an absurd notion. There are totally unethical and shitty landlords, no one is disputing that, but to say that being a landlord as a whole is unethical? Absolute nonsense.
Like, the critique is deeper than any of your anecdotes and #notalllandlords, this critique goes hand in hand with a critique of capitalism as we know it, and how shelter should be a human right not a priviledge. How most landlords get their properties through inheritance, and that capital is used to further accrue capital on the back of people with less social mobility.
THANK YOU again Kurdel

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Good lord. TIL my local grocer is holding my life ransom because they have the audacity to charge me for food
The capitalists who own the Grocery store are in fact doing that yes.
And Cerium is holding my posts ransom by taxing the poor and not listing me as a Staff Member despite the clear proof that I am in the loop! Nor is he paying me like was promised when ResetERA.com started! It's a LLC, that means nobody can take control and run it for profit! THE WORKERS UNITED CAN NEVER BE DIVIDED!