Corona Thread |OT| Please scream inside your heart

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/Zerochan/status/1244440601053061124

He had been scheduled to star in Kinema no kamisama [ja] when he would star as leading actor for the first time, but Izawa Office (イザワオフィス), the entertainment office he belongs to, and Shochiku announced that they declined his starring in the movie on March 26.[5]

Shimura died at 11:10 p.m. on 29 March 2020 in a hospital in Shinjuku, Tokyo

Damn, that sucks.

[Human Snorenado]

Who could have predicted

https://twitter.com/eileenguo/status/1244296947705364480

[Great Rumbler]

Who could have predicted

https://twitter.com/eileenguo/status/1244296947705364480

The number of infected doesn't go up if you don't do tests. 

[shosta]

Radio Free Asia

Hubei province accounts for 4.2% of the population. Approximately 7 million people die in China every year. That's 24,500 people a month in Hubei.

The source said Wuhan saw 28,000 cremations in the space of a single month, suggesting that the online estimates over a two-and-a-half month period weren't excessive.

Just that back of the envelope math using numbers from several years ago got me really close to the amount of deaths. Not saying that there were probably a few uncounted deaths in China, but I seriously doubt the government is covering up TENS OF THOUSANDS of deaths

[benjipwns]

According to Chinese government figures, 2,535 people in Wuhan have died of the virus.

That's still >5% of the deaths during the period. Using the urns figure.

[OnlyRegret]

Radio Free Asia is a United States government–funded

American dogs

[thisismyusername]

How does reddit and internet Liberpedoians like JayDubya stan this dude?

(Twitter account got suspended for speaking truth to the power? )

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/MimiReeds/status/1244180269130604544

FWIW:
https://twitter.com/ciropellegrino/status/1244407613154103296

Not that it's hard to believe such a story, unfortunately being a nurse doesn't prevent you from also being a major cunt, but just assuming it's the norm, is kind of distinguished mentally-challenged. 

[Occam]

(Twitter account got suspended for speaking truth to the power? )

He wasn't suspended, the delicate flower that is Elon Musk just did what Trump wishes he'd be able to do (but hasn't managed to install enough stooges in the courts to make it legal just yet): he blocked the guy.

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/MimiReeds/status/1244180269130604544

FWIW:
https://twitter.com/ciropellegrino/status/1244407613154103296

Not that it's hard to believe such a story, unfortunately being a nurse doesn't prevent you from also being a major cunt, but just assuming it's the norm, is kind of distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed. 

https://twitter.com/MarsdenMarshal1/status/1244412285088444418

 

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/MimiReeds/status/1244180269130604544

FWIW:
https://twitter.com/ciropellegrino/status/1244407613154103296

Not that it's hard to believe such a story, unfortunately being a nurse doesn't prevent you from also being a major cunt, but just assuming it's the norm, is kind of distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed. 

https://twitter.com/MarsdenMarshal1/status/1244412285088444418

 

It's just not news, didn't say it wasn't bad. 
It'd fit well in the bad vibes thread, though. 

[OnlyRegret]

Billy has drawn in the sand the number of expendable Americans

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244413667971653635

[james]

When do we find out if Rand paul died or not

[OnlyRegret]

Like Kissinger, he won't go down easy.

[OnlyRegret]

Ah, so nice to live somewhere where you can criticize the officials and not get gulaged like China, amirite fellow free folks?

https://www.oregonlive.com/coronavirus/2020/03/er-doctor-fired-after-criticizing-coronavirus-response-at-his-hospital.html

Choir not cancelled, ends badly

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

[Tripon]

https://twitter.com/kyoshino/status/1244455879245615104

[team filler]

[shosta]

Billy has drawn in the sand the number of expendable Americans

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244413667971653635

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244493355754627073

will he or won't he be shocked

[team filler]

https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1244498562496565248

[Ghoul]

That’s exactly the sort of guy that I would imagine would throw a lockdown party 

[VomKriege]

twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1244353827819655168

This is common with a lot of data that countries record, infant mortality is the most famous one but I remember reading a comparative article that had like six disclaimers about some random education stat like sixth grade reading level or something. They were all Yuropean countries too with similar systems.

I once came across an article that mentioned an African country was boosting its internet access numbers by using a "theoretical number of people who could use a cafe 24/7 at one person using ten minutes" type metric. It was tied to some development aid thing where they were supposed to be hitting these milestones rather than looting too hard and the deadline was approaching. Yet there were lots of Western media stories about the "internet miracle" in said nation thanks to the aid. (The latter was the main point of the article.)

Beyond the arbitrary definition, it also makes sense with testing in very short supplies (at the beginning of the epidemic at least) and symptoms that can be undistinguishable with other types of flu that they didn't test post-mortem all deaths in retirement homes. That's maybe a mistake because they were obviously at-risk populations and potential clusters... I guess the problem became apparent as deaths, hospitalization or suspicious cases went critical mass in any one institution. I think that with more testing they also started including nursing home staff more regularly.

French authorities made the disambiguation very clear 4 or 5 days ago, I suspect it's probably because the media was probably going to report on it. There's an argument that changing the statistical definition mid-stream would be more confusing and make the data less useful (on top of being less shameful for our dear leaders...) but everyone should be mindful that the number of fatalities is probably higher (maybe a lot higher) than what we know at the moment. And really, I suspect that's true for most countries.

It's probably extra-sensitive in France after the absolute fiasco of the 2003 heat wave that killed an estimated 15k seniors. Health ministers don't have the best track record here, though the public and media also get pissy when too much is done (that happened with the H1N1, lots of treatment and masks bought for "nothing", the minister at the time got ridiculed for years about that...).

[jorma]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

[Pissy F Benny]

lol what a country of squares

bless up my lockdown kings

[Don Rumata]

lol what a country of squares

bless up my lockdown kings

ahah, yeah!
*Riots in the streets after 3 months of lockdown destroy the country's economy beyond repair.* 

April 3rd is almost up, we'll see how people are gonna react to the (inevitable) extension of the quarantine.

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1244525246763479041

 

[Ghoul]

another MP in the UK diagnosed with Corona.... end of days brehs

[Coax]

https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1244557445331968000

[VomKriege]

I think Fauci is actually being pretty kind to Trump with that estimate, he didn't specify a timeline (no one can, obviously) and a lot of states, despite the terrible leadership by Trump, have started implementing measures to help mitigate the worst hopefully. It's ten/twenty times the actual present Italian fatalities, so per capita roughly similar but in the upper bracket to account for the tardiness of the response. It's a terrible number but still palatable to compare it to a very bad flu, yet high enough the current administration could hope to officially undershoot it before the peak passes.

I don't blame him for playing the game because that's apparently the only way you can bait Trump into common sense, but it's a very non-committal, political statement to make.

[Ghoul]

https://twitter.com/KojiPro2015_EN/status/1244557445331968000

Those bitches need to update their ssl if they have a store on that site god damn it....

They think they're the bore or some shit.

[Coax]

Those bitches need to update their ssl if they have a store on that site god damn it....

Visited a small Japanese online store without a cert just the other day

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/AssisT_styx/status/1244528187817803776

Assi... 

[Ghoul]

Those bitches need to update their ssl if they have a store on that site god damn it....

Visited a small Japanese online store without a cert just the other day

Already hacked breh.

[Uncle]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/who-video-games-playaparttogether/

The World Health Organization wants you to stay at home and play video games

 

[Ghoul]

https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/who-video-games-playaparttogether/

The World Health Organization wants you to stay at home and play video games

 

Six months later, everyone is addicted to games. BAN THEM

[Stro]

I think Fauci is actually being pretty kind to Trump with that estimate, he didn't specify a timeline (no one can, obviously) and a lot of states, despite the terrible leadership by Trump, have started implementing measures to help mitigate the worst hopefully. It's ten/twenty times the actual present Italian fatalities, so per capita roughly similar but in the upper bracket to account for the tardiness of the response. It's a terrible number but still palatable to compare it to a very bad flu, yet high enough the current administration could hope to officially undershoot it before the peak passes.

I don't blame him for playing the game because that's apparently the only way you can bait Trump into common sense, but it's a very non-committal, political statement to make.

In some ways, I think it is in the best interest of everyone for Fauci to overstate the possible death toll, as that seems to be the only thing that gets through to Trump. And it's not Fauci telling Trump to his face, but going on TV and putting the big numbers out that that got Trump to extend the shutdowns. He's got a delicate balance to maintain of trying not to completely panic the American populace, but also paint a bad enough picture that Trump can't ignore it.

[Pissy F Benny]

Tremendous numbers, bigger than anyone elses

[who is ted danson?]

 

Oi! Do you 'ave a licence for that easter egg?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8166799/Fury-police-stop-solving-crimes-staff-sicknes.html

[bork]

Got an email from Amazon over the weekend, saying that all non-essential items will see significant delivery delays.

Persona 5 Royal now out for delivery and due to arrive in a few minutes.

[Pissy F Benny]

fack da police

[Ghoul]

Got an email from Amazon over the weekend, saying that all non-essential items will see significant delivery delays.

Persona 5 Royal now out for delivery and due to arrive in a few minutes.

What did they do to change it? Did they cut it by 20 hours?

Also fairly essential though, are you planning on playing it.

[Dickie Dee]

Oi! Do you 'ave a licence for that easter egg?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8166799/Fury-police-stop-solving-crimes-staff-sicknes.html

(Image removed from quote.)

I'm sure this story from the Daily Mail would hold up under scrutiny

[Coax]

Just an interesting detail, seems the UK removed Covid-19 from their list of high consequence infectious diseases recently, primarily due to it having a lower mortality rate than others on their HCID list, though it appears to still fit every other criteria of theirs. The original SARS remains classified as a HCID (which had almost a 10% mortality rate) as does MERS (30-40% mortality rate).

As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious diseases (HCID) in the UK. [...] They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall) and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.[/url]

Further down the page...

In the UK, a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) is defined according to the following criteria:

- acute infectious disease
- typically has a high case-fatality rate
- may not have effective prophylaxis or treatment
- often difficult to recognise and detect rapidly
- ability to spread in the community and within healthcare settings
- requires an enhanced individual, population and system response to ensure it is managed effectively, efficiently and safely

[VomKriege]

A bad scenario (% growth of deaths keeping steady) has 100k USA deaths in mid-April though.
The worst is never certain but...

[Fifstar]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

Not to rain on your parade, but in reality sweden probably just tests not nearly enough and the big wave is coming. The CFR is at 3,6% which at this time points to a big dark number. The swedish death rate per capita is currently on par with the UK and twice as high as the US. Norway for example has about as many infections as sweden but less than a third of deaths...

[bork]

Got an email from Amazon over the weekend, saying that all non-essential items will see significant delivery delays.

Persona 5 Royal now out for delivery and due to arrive in a few minutes.

What did they do to change it? Did they cut it by 20 hours?

Also fairly essential though, are you planning on playing it.

I like it and other video games have come 1-2 days before the release dates, yet toilet paper (when in stock) takes days, lol.

[Don Rumata]

More feel-good content for you boys and girls. 

[Ghoul]

Got an email from Amazon over the weekend, saying that all non-essential items will see significant delivery delays.

Persona 5 Royal now out for delivery and due to arrive in a few minutes.

What did they do to change it? Did they cut it by 20 hours?

Also fairly essential though, are you planning on playing it.

I like it and other video games have come 1-2 days before the release dates, yet toilet paper (when in stock) takes days, lol.

A whole new meaning to dirty ass gamers.

[VomKriege]

Not sure it was mentioned but Portugal is granting temporary status to all legal immigrants that they were processing on an administrative level so that they get the same rights with healthcare access than citizens.

[VomKriege]

Orban also got emergency powers voted in Hungary.

[Nintex]

Had to stand in line before I could enter the supermarket today. They were only letting in a few people at a time as a precaution.

... but I now have a very RARE sealed item for sale in MINT condition.
A 18 rolls toilet paper value pack from Page, extra soft and absorbent.
Bidding begins at $78 349 excluding shipping.

I have not seen such a premium toilet paper brand in stores for like a month.

[ToxicAdam]

If this extends out to the end of May, I can't wait for all the entitled parents that insist on giving little Johnny his Prom/Graduation that he is missing out on. You know that is coming.

[Ghoul]

Had to stand in line before I could enter the supermarket today. They were only letting in a few people at a time as a precaution.

... but I now have a very RARE sealed item for sale in MINT condition.
A 18 rolls toilet paper value pack from Page, extra soft and absorbent.
Bidding begins at $78 349 excluding shipping.

I have not seen such a premium toilet paper brand in stores for like a month.

Big stonks James will be all over a %

[jorma]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

Not to rain on your parade, but in reality sweden probably just tests not nearly enough and the big wave is coming. The CFR is at 3,6% which at this time points to a big dark number. The swedish death rate per capita is currently on par with the UK and twice as high as the US. Norway for example has about as many infections as sweden but less than a third of deaths...

I'm not suggesting we are doing better, just not worse. If the more draconian measures don't yield better results than a mere suggestion from the PM to act responsibly, there is literally no reason to implement them.

[VomKriege]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

Not to rain on your parade, but in reality sweden probably just tests not nearly enough and the big wave is coming. The CFR is at 3,6% which at this time points to a big dark number. The swedish death rate per capita is currently on par with the UK and twice as high as the US. Norway for example has about as many infections as sweden but less than a third of deaths...

I'm not suggesting we are doing better, just not worse. If the more draconian measures don't yield better results than a mere suggestion from the PM to act responsibly, there is literally no reason to implement them.

It's too premature to say Sweden's approach is yielding better or equal results. It may still, for particular reasons or a better general approach. I'd say it's riskier, but maybe your government will be vindicated.

[thisismyusername]

(Twitter account got suspended for speaking truth to the power? )

He wasn't suspended, the delicate flower that is Elon Musk just did what Trump wishes he'd be able to do (but hasn't managed to install enough stooges in the courts to make it legal just yet): he blocked the guy.

...Go look up the account name, dude. It's suspended.

Let me save you time, bb: It's suspended.

[Ghoul]

(Twitter account got suspended for speaking truth to the power? )

He wasn't suspended, the delicate flower that is Elon Musk just did what Trump wishes he'd be able to do (but hasn't managed to install enough stooges in the courts to make it legal just yet): he blocked the guy.

...Go look up the account name, dude. It's suspended.

Let me save you time, bb: It's suspended.

Elon stans came out and mass reported, it's just like that ok boomer girl lmao.

Speaking of weird shit, why doesn't Trump build the wall with the corpses of the dead?

Would be metal as fuck breh.

[thisismyusername]

Speaking of Twitter:

https://twitter.com/loswhit/status/1244413884670390273

[jorma]

Looking at Swedish corona stats, not quarantining people using force and closing everything down but instead asking us plebs to act responsibly on our own accord seems to work just as well as the more authoritarian methods. 

Not to rain on your parade, but in reality sweden probably just tests not nearly enough and the big wave is coming. The CFR is at 3,6% which at this time points to a big dark number. The swedish death rate per capita is currently on par with the UK and twice as high as the US. Norway for example has about as many infections as sweden but less than a third of deaths...

I'm not suggesting we are doing better, just not worse. If the more draconian measures don't yield better results than a mere suggestion from the PM to act responsibly, there is literally no reason to implement them.

It's too premature to say Sweden's approach is yielding better or equal results. It may still, for particular reasons or a better general approach. I'd say it's riskier, but maybe your government will be vindicated.

I think they still have quarantine as an option for Stockholm, but wont do it unless they really really need to. And also that our experts thinks it's dangerous to implement it too early, since people will start to violate quarantine just as they are needed indoors the most.

I personally approve of how they've been running it, and it seems like most people agree.
It also has the added benefit of making people focus more on their own actions and less on everyone else. 

[Ghoul]

Speaking of Twitter:

https://twitter.com/loswhit/status/1244413884670390273

Same shit in the UK breh, a family had a shit load of people round for karaoke.

https://twitter.com/DerWestResponse/status/1244060249402806277

The replies as well are mental FYI
 

[Great Rumbler]

A choir practice held in Washington state on March 10, as the new coronavirus was spreading in Seattle, left dozens of people with COVID-19. The Los Angeles Times reports that 45 out of 60 Skagit Valley Chorale who gathered at the Mount Vernon Presbyterian Church have tested positive. Three have been hospitalized and two have died. No one at the practice had symptoms and most avoided contact with others, but the act of singing could have dispersed virus-containing droplets into the air they breathed.