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The Biden administration's task force for reuniting migrant families separated by the Trump administration will allow separated families the option of being reunified either in the U.S. or their county of origin, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said on Monday.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-expected-let-migrant-families-separated-under-trump-reunite-n1259141

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The top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan on Monday is calling on Chairman Jerrold Nadler to hold a hearing to "address the scourge of cancel culture" in the United States, amid what he called a "dangerous trend" of "silencing and censoring certain political speech."

In a letter to Nadler, D-N.Y., obtained by Fox News, Jordan, R-Ohio, said, "The wave of cancel culture spreading the nation is a serious threat to fundamental free speech rights in the United States."

"From newsrooms to college campuses to social media giants, we have seen a dangerous trend toward silencing and censoring certain political speech," Jordan wrote. "As the committee entrusted with upholding the Constitution and our fundamental liberties, our first full committee hearing for the 117th Congress must examine this cancel culture sweeping America."

Jordan said the First Amendment, which "guarantees to all Americans the right to speak freely," has "allowed our country to develop and maintain a political discourse fueled by the free exchange of ideas."

"This freedom has empowered risk-takers and innovators. It has shaped bold new ideas and given us a prosperous democracy," Jordan wrote. "Quite simply, it has made the United States the envy of the world."

But Jordan said that in the current climate, "our shared commitment to free speech principles is eroding under demands for the censorship and silencing of certain speech."

Jordan, listing several examples, including college campuses canceling lectures because students disagree with the speaker; a New York Times editorial page editor, James Bennett, resigning after the newsroom disagreed with an op-ed penned by GOP Sen. Tom Cotton; Amazon’s removal of a book written by a conservative author; and social media companies like Twitter and Facebook, which he said "have censored and de-platformed prominent conservatives—including the sitting President of the United States."

"Cancel culture is a dangerous phenomenon whether you agree or disagree with the views being censored," Jordan said. "Our society must always promote the free exchange of ideas, not cancel the ideas with which we disagree."

Jordan warned that "if cancel culture continues unchallenged, it is not just the unpopular or controversial viewpoints that are at risk."

"Every viewpoint and every idea—whether widely accepted now or not—runs the risk of eventually falling into disfavor with the ever-changing standards of cancel culture," he wrote.

Jordan said that cancel culture’s "long-term consequences to our democracy and constitutional framework are serious and substantial."

"We must fight this trend before it is too late," he wrote. "There is no better issue on which Republicans and Democrats can work together to address in our first full committee hearing than to address the scourge of cancel culture in the United States."
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The top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan on Monday is calling on Chairman Jerrold Nadler to hold a hearing to "address the scourge of cancel culture" in the United States, amid what he called a "dangerous trend" of "silencing and censoring certain political speech."

In a letter to Nadler, D-N.Y., obtained by Fox News, Jordan, R-Ohio, said, "The wave of cancel culture spreading the nation is a serious threat to fundamental free speech rights in the United States."

"From newsrooms to college campuses to social media giants, we have seen a dangerous trend toward silencing and censoring certain political speech," Jordan wrote. "As the committee entrusted with upholding the Constitution and our fundamental liberties, our first full committee hearing for the 117th Congress must examine this cancel culture sweeping America."

Jordan said the First Amendment, which "guarantees to all Americans the right to speak freely," has "allowed our country to develop and maintain a political discourse fueled by the free exchange of ideas."

"This freedom has empowered risk-takers and innovators. It has shaped bold new ideas and given us a prosperous democracy," Jordan wrote. "Quite simply, it has made the United States the envy of the world."

But Jordan said that in the current climate, "our shared commitment to free speech principles is eroding under demands for the censorship and silencing of certain speech."

Jordan, listing several examples, including college campuses canceling lectures because students disagree with the speaker; a New York Times editorial page editor, James Bennett, resigning after the newsroom disagreed with an op-ed penned by GOP Sen. Tom Cotton; Amazon’s removal of a book written by a conservative author; and social media companies like Twitter and Facebook, which he said "have censored and de-platformed prominent conservatives—including the sitting President of the United States."

"Cancel culture is a dangerous phenomenon whether you agree or disagree with the views being censored," Jordan said. "Our society must always promote the free exchange of ideas, not cancel the ideas with which we disagree."

Jordan warned that "if cancel culture continues unchallenged, it is not just the unpopular or controversial viewpoints that are at risk."

"Every viewpoint and every idea—whether widely accepted now or not—runs the risk of eventually falling into disfavor with the ever-changing standards of cancel culture," he wrote.

Jordan said that cancel culture’s "long-term consequences to our democracy and constitutional framework are serious and substantial."

"We must fight this trend before it is too late," he wrote. "There is no better issue on which Republicans and Democrats can work together to address in our first full committee hearing than to address the scourge of cancel culture in the United States."
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It’s called “consequences.”

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.


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Petition to find+replace "cancel culture" with "boycott". Reality wide.

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The word boycott is probably sexist cause the word boy is in there.

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The top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee Jim Jordan on Monday is calling on Chairman Jerrold Nadler to hold a hearing to "address the scourge of cancel culture" in the United States, amid what he called a "dangerous trend" of "silencing and censoring certain political speech."

In a letter to Nadler, D-N.Y., obtained by Fox News, Jordan, R-Ohio, said, "The wave of cancel culture spreading the nation is a serious threat to fundamental free speech rights in the United States."

"From newsrooms to college campuses to social media giants, we have seen a dangerous trend toward silencing and censoring certain political speech," Jordan wrote. "As the committee entrusted with upholding the Constitution and our fundamental liberties, our first full committee hearing for the 117th Congress must examine this cancel culture sweeping America."

Jordan said the First Amendment, which "guarantees to all Americans the right to speak freely," has "allowed our country to develop and maintain a political discourse fueled by the free exchange of ideas."

"This freedom has empowered risk-takers and innovators. It has shaped bold new ideas and given us a prosperous democracy," Jordan wrote. "Quite simply, it has made the United States the envy of the world."

But Jordan said that in the current climate, "our shared commitment to free speech principles is eroding under demands for the censorship and silencing of certain speech."

Jordan, listing several examples, including college campuses canceling lectures because students disagree with the speaker; a New York Times editorial page editor, James Bennett, resigning after the newsroom disagreed with an op-ed penned by GOP Sen. Tom Cotton; Amazon’s removal of a book written by a conservative author; and social media companies like Twitter and Facebook, which he said "have censored and de-platformed prominent conservatives—including the sitting President of the United States."

"Cancel culture is a dangerous phenomenon whether you agree or disagree with the views being censored," Jordan said. "Our society must always promote the free exchange of ideas, not cancel the ideas with which we disagree."

Jordan warned that "if cancel culture continues unchallenged, it is not just the unpopular or controversial viewpoints that are at risk."

"Every viewpoint and every idea—whether widely accepted now or not—runs the risk of eventually falling into disfavor with the ever-changing standards of cancel culture," he wrote.

Jordan said that cancel culture’s "long-term consequences to our democracy and constitutional framework are serious and substantial."

"We must fight this trend before it is too late," he wrote. "There is no better issue on which Republicans and Democrats can work together to address in our first full committee hearing than to address the scourge of cancel culture in the United States."
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Everyone who didn't vote Biden in the primary saw this coming before he even announced.

Still twelve hundred billion times better than any kind of Trump presidency, it must be said.

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Hey now, that's very unfair. A lot of people who voted for Biden saw this coming too.

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"Joe Mr. President sir, we promised the people we'd give them $2000 and we would leave Afghanistan and..."

"Hold your horses Missy. What are the socialists going to do? Vote for Trump? Did you find the votes for Neera yet?" :biden

Whenever I see Joe Biden it looks like footage from a bygone era or something. Strangely comforting.
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U.S. House candidate Kim Klacik walked onto Mike Huckabee’s cable talk show last August as the latest conservative celebrity, riding high on a viral campaign ad that had attracted 10 million views and was shared on social media by President Donald Trump and his eldest son.

“We raised close to $2 million,” the Republican congressional hopeful said of the three-minute spot, which showed her marching in a red dress and high heels past abandoned buildings in Baltimore, asserting that Democrats do not care about Black lives.

But later that night, Klacik’s staff told her it would be best to stop disclosing how much money the ad had raised for her campaign against Rep. Kweisi Mfume (D) — because she wouldn’t be keeping much of it, Klacik recounted in an interview.

The company that produced the video, Arsenal Media Group, would take a cut. And a firm hired to promote the video, Olympic Media, would keep up to 70 percent of the money it generated, some of which was not disclosed in Klacik’s initial campaign finance filings.

Klacik, a self-described college dropout who launched a nonprofit organization to help disadvantaged women before running for office, said she did not personally approve or know about the contract with Olympic Media until that conversation.

“When I saw it, I almost passed out,” she said.

Her campaign is an example of how some consulting firms are profiting handsomely from Republican candidates who have robust appeal in today’s politically charged environment — even when they are running in deep-blue districts where it is virtually impossible for them to win. The more viral the candidate goes, the more money the companies make — a model possible only through the online outrage machine of hyperpartisan politics.
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By the end of Klacik’s campaign, she would raise a staggering $8.3 million and pay nearly $3.7 million of it to Olympic Media, according to campaign finance filings and her campaign manager. Klacik, now a frequent Fox News and Newsmax commentator, lost to Mfume in Maryland’s 7th Congressional District by more than 40 percentage points.
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Johnson was challenging Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a national target of conservative scorn. Like Klacik, he urged Black voters to abandon the Democratic Party, saying it had served them poorly. Like Klacik, he lost by a wide margin — nearly 40 percentage points.

He raised about $12 million from donors across the country. After Olympic’s share and other fundraising costs were deducted, just $5 million remained, Lazzaro estimated.
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Klacik certainly got something for the millions she paid her vendors: a national political platform.

Within days of the Baltimore ad’s release, she landed a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention. By October, she’d taken in more than $6 million — mostly from small-dollar donors across the country.

She spent more than $50,000 on private jets. She joined Donald Trump Jr. at a rally in Arizona, and the president himself in Atlanta to announce a plan to increase capital in Black communities. She traveled her district on a customized bus and spent thousands of dollars on a campaign event at Trump’s hotel in downtown Washington.

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U.S. House candidate Kim Klacik walked onto Mike Huckabee’s cable talk show last August as the latest conservative celebrity, riding high on a viral campaign ad that had attracted 10 million views and was shared on social media by President Donald Trump and his eldest son.

“We raised close to $2 million,” the Republican congressional hopeful said of the three-minute spot, which showed her marching in a red dress and high heels past abandoned buildings in Baltimore, asserting that Democrats do not care about Black lives.

But later that night, Klacik’s staff told her it would be best to stop disclosing how much money the ad had raised for her campaign against Rep. Kweisi Mfume (D) — because she wouldn’t be keeping much of it, Klacik recounted in an interview.

The company that produced the video, Arsenal Media Group, would take a cut. And a firm hired to promote the video, Olympic Media, would keep up to 70 percent of the money it generated, some of which was not disclosed in Klacik’s initial campaign finance filings.

Klacik, a self-described college dropout who launched a nonprofit organization to help disadvantaged women before running for office, said she did not personally approve or know about the contract with Olympic Media until that conversation.

“When I saw it, I almost passed out,” she said.

Her campaign is an example of how some consulting firms are profiting handsomely from Republican candidates who have robust appeal in today’s politically charged environment — even when they are running in deep-blue districts where it is virtually impossible for them to win. The more viral the candidate goes, the more money the companies make — a model possible only through the online outrage machine of hyperpartisan politics.
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By the end of Klacik’s campaign, she would raise a staggering $8.3 million and pay nearly $3.7 million of it to Olympic Media, according to campaign finance filings and her campaign manager. Klacik, now a frequent Fox News and Newsmax commentator, lost to Mfume in Maryland’s 7th Congressional District by more than 40 percentage points.
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Johnson was challenging Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.), a national target of conservative scorn. Like Klacik, he urged Black voters to abandon the Democratic Party, saying it had served them poorly. Like Klacik, he lost by a wide margin — nearly 40 percentage points.

He raised about $12 million from donors across the country. After Olympic’s share and other fundraising costs were deducted, just $5 million remained, Lazzaro estimated.
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Klacik certainly got something for the millions she paid her vendors: a national political platform.

Within days of the Baltimore ad’s release, she landed a speaking slot at the Republican National Convention. By October, she’d taken in more than $6 million — mostly from small-dollar donors across the country.

She spent more than $50,000 on private jets. She joined Donald Trump Jr. at a rally in Arizona, and the president himself in Atlanta to announce a plan to increase capital in Black communities. She traveled her district on a customized bus and spent thousands of dollars on a campaign event at Trump’s hotel in downtown Washington.

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It’s called “consequences.”

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

Before I'd even seen who posted this while scrolling up on mobile I thought, 'the tone of that reply sounds like chronovore' :P

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It’s called “consequences.”

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.

Before I'd even seen who posted this while scrolling up on mobile I thought, 'the tone of that reply sounds like chronovore' :P

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What's driving the reduction of income caps?

Did they underestimate how much money big pharma was going to want to inoculate america?
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Because we can’t live in a country where Amazon gets billions in subsidies from the government and Jeff Bezos gets a $2000 dollar check from the government.

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Looks like we got another secret Muslim in the White House  :'(

https://mobile.twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1367848260375871493

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/03/05/americans-trust-black-lives-matter-declines-usa-today-ipsos-poll/6903470002/

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Last June, 60% in a USA TODAY/Ipsos Poll described Floyd's death as murder; that percentage has now dropped by double digits to 36%. Uncertainty has grown about how to characterize the incident, caught on video, when Chauvin held his knee on Floyd's neck and ignored his protests that he couldn't breathe. Last year, 4% said they didn't know how to describe it; that number has climbed to 17%.

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Nearly two-thirds of Black Americans, 64%, view Floyd's death as murder; fewer than one-third of white people, 28%, feel that way. White Americans are more likely to describe it instead as the police officer's "negligence," 33% compared with 16% of Black respondents.

That said, Americans who have heard at least something about Chauvin's trial say 4 to 1, or 60%-15%, that they hope Chauvin is convicted. That included 54% of white Americans and 76% of Black Americans.

It's a fairly short and simple to follow read beyond this bit I pulled.
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Sinema began her political career in the Arizona Green Party and rose to prominence for her progressive advocacy, supporting causes such as LGBT rights and opposing the war on terror.

God damn it Putin, let us have our $15 minimum wage.


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He meant help for himself and the cronycrats :trumps

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Dems are at the point in the RPG when they think they've beaten the endboss depleting their potions and spells and every enemy is easy to defeat. Then 4 rooms later the plot twist where the boss reappears at lvl 100 to kill or knock out their favorite party member and it's either grind or die.
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The dirty corrupt New Deal dems would be eating rn with reps freaking out over potato gender and neandeethals

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Maybe just don't vote on an important bill with the demeanor of kicking a cheerleader from the team

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Sinema is a pig.

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Using Trump's name to boost their atrocious ratings. Sad!

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Licensing his name out to the Republican party would be the most Trump thing ever  :lol
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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.

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Yes, but not every one is going to be able to move up or get a better job. Also I don't know how you can disconnect a minimum wage with a living wage. The whole system is pretty fucked if the minimum wage a company can pay you won't even get you above the poverty line.

EDIT: I don't know why Dems don't change the messaging about minimum wage hike to think of all the money saved by all the people who now no longer qualify for all the welfare programs due to actually being able to live off their paychecks now.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2021, 10:05:17 PM by Stro »

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https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/

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From 1979 to 2018, net productivity rose 69.6 percent, while the hourly pay of typical workers essentially stagnated—increasing only 11.6 percent over 39 years (after adjusting for inflation). This means that although Americans are working more productively than ever, the fruits of their labors have primarily accrued to those at the top and to corporate profits, especially in recent years.

Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.

There are an abundance of low income jobs that are required for our society to function, jobs that aren't getting filled or with huge turn over rates, that pay above minimum wage, but aren't living wages or are barely reaching living wages.

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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.
This is about the most American thing I've ever read on this forum.
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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.
This is about the most American thing I've ever read on this forum.

It's the truth. Minimum wage was an incentive for employers to hire people and an opportunity for job seekers to receive entry-level jobs in which they can learn and grow. Minimum wage was not created to be something an individual or family could live upon.

Don't carp because we've chosen to redefine the term rather than address its problems.









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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.
This is about the most American thing I've ever read on this forum.

It's the truth. Minimum wage was an incentive for employers to hire people and an opportunity for job seekers to receive entry-level jobs in which they can learn and grow. Minimum wage was not created to be something an individual or family could live upon.

Don't carp because we've chosen to redefine the term rather than address its problems.

That's not the history behind it though. You're creating a narrative based around actually believing company and corporation bottom lines at face value.

Shit, looking up minimum wage on wikipedia gets you this

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Minimum wage legislation emerged at the end of the nineteenth century from the desire to end sweated labor which had developed in the wake of industrialization.[19] Sweatshops employed large numbers of women and young workers, paying them what were considered nonliving wages that did not allow workers to afford the necessaries of life.[20] Besides substandard wages, sweating was also associated with long work hours and unsanitary and unsafe work conditions.[21] From the 1890s to the 1920s, during the Progressive Era, a time of social activists and political reform across the United States, progressive reformers, women's organizations, religious figures, academics, and politicians all played an important role in getting state minimum wage laws passed throughout the United States.[22]

The first successful attempts at using minimum wage laws to ameliorate the problem of nonliving wages occurred in the Australian state of Victoria in 1896.[23][24] Factory inspector reports and newspaper reporting on the conditions of sweated labor in Melbourne, Victoria led in 1895 to the formation of the National Anti-Sweating League which pushed the government aggressively to deal legislatively with the problem of substandard wages.[25] The government, following the recommendation of the Victorian Chief Secretary Alexander Peacock, established wage boards which were tasked with establishing minimum wages in the labor trades which suffered from unlivable wages. During the same time period, campaigns against sweated labor were occurring in the United States and England.[26]

In the United States, the earliest minimum wage laws were state laws focused on women and children.[27] These laws were struck down by the Supreme Court between 1923 and 1937.[27] The first federal minimum wage law, which exempted large parts of the workforce, was enacted in 1938 and set rates that had become obsolete during World War II.[27]

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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary

Quite literally the opposite of its origins.
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Minimum wage was never meant as a living wage. It was intended as a starting salary. You get hired, you earn some money, you learn valuable skills, and gain work experience.

Then: You get promoted or you get a better job. Either way, you get more money and a new spot is opened up for a minimum wage employee.

Somewhere along the line we got it in our heads people should shovel fries for life and be able to live comfortably doing it.
Yep, the issue is that the minimum wage has barely moved with inflation though.
There's a little catch up to do, but overall I agree with you that it should be an 'entry point' salary not the end destination.

However, part of this blame lies with companies like Amazon. Who drill people into thinking that VP of Package Arrangement is a different and more fulfilling career than mail sorting. :trumps

There's also the race to the bottom with pricing. Selling shit cheap is easier than proving the value of your products. And companies that sell shit for low prices and fuck over their suppliers whenever they can will never pay you a decent wage.
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