Kate's take is delusional imo and ignores basic conclusions neuroscience and evolutionary biology reached many years ago. Men dominate STEM fields because they are interested in them and because they're more interested they're also usually better at them, women are more social and prefer different kinds of jobs. The Gender Equality Paradox ridiculed Scandinavian feminists years ago about this bullshit but they just keep coming back with the same dumb theories. It's as if this movement isn't rational anymore.
I disagree. Her first bit is pretty reasonable. But as you go along it's like "mmhmm, mmmhmm, wait... what?"
And then you hit the Tweet'ed bit and it's like "what the hell are you talking about?"
The full quoted bit:
Marginality comes in many forms, and economic marginality is one of them. This is something that we saw a lot with the U.S. election [in 2016].
It’s really hard to get people who are making minimum wage and struggling financially to understand that they have structural privilege compared to other groups. Some people see programs like affirmative action and attempts to create gender parity, and they think that they are being unfairly excluded.
There’s an adage that says, when you’re used to privilege, equality feels like oppression. When you’re used to being able to do and say whatever you want, being criticized for saying racist or misogynist things comes as a shock. This is why you see all of this anger over so-called political correctness.
There’s a lot of anger amongst certain groups that people who they perceive to be inferior to them are telling them what to do and say. Because gaming and other spaces have been traditionally dominated by white men, the idea that they couldn’t behave as they normally did because outsiders were coming in caused a lot of anger.
Like "what the hell are you bringing this in as an example for your 'men online suck'" rant?
First, I disagree with her premise and assumptions right off the bat. But if you accept her assumptions, this is her basic argument: White minimum wage workers have it better than black minimum wage workers; a pathetic male gamer with no life has it better than a pathetic female gamer with no life; etc. So the white minimum wage worker being told this will likely reject this, even if true, because his life his so sucky he can't see that other people's lives are suckier.
Now, what this author is missing, besides the fact that her underlying assumptions are shaky at best, is that if you go up to a man whose kid just died and say, "well at least you can still pee on a tree while standing, while a woman whose kid just died is worse off than you because she can't," then yeah, they're gonna take issue with you using a fine-toothed comb to try and parse people into rankings of who has it worse. Your kid just died; your peeing advantages mean nothing in the face of that, and trying to dismiss your sucky situation with some suckage ranking is ridiculously insulting.
My favorite thing is at the bottom of the article: "If you’d like to comment on this article, you can contact us via our email form, or on Facebook, Twitter and other social media outlets. We will publish the best comments in a follow-up article." In other words, they want the benefits of community engagement without having to be *gasp* publicly criticized on their article. But if you agree with everything we say, fire off that email, we'll publish it!
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10902662/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/10773594/
NOT TRUE!!1!1
Proper use of quotes and images in that thread:
Even a devloper from Bethesda said Resetera is hard place to be on a recent topic about this subject.
This is not true.
(Ironic that you'd complain about so-called falsehoods being peddled and then you throw this in there, though.)
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That's a fair judgement. If they don't feel comfortable who am I to judge?
But from the other side here, I (and many others) think the moderation is way too harsh. There are often bans with no clear indication as to why, and often because they disagree with the established superstar posters. There's little room for discussion on many topics, so anyone who knows better just doesn't post.
I know many people, industry and otherwise, who refuse to post here because it's seen as a hostile and unwelcoming environment.
(Image removed from quote.)
So now we have moderators straight-up lying. Wow.
Alright, to be fair to Morrigan, the verified developer named Skyrim doesn't necessarily work for Bethesda. Maybe Morrigan knows the email that got him verified, and it's some indie dev that's just a fan of Skyrim.
Assuming this best case scenario for Morrigan, the user was *at worst* making an incorrect assumption that a verified developer with the handle Skyrim was from Bethesda. But she says "Ironic that you'd complain about so-called falsehoods being peddled and then you throw this in there, though." as if he
knew the verified dev named Skyrim was not actually from Bethesda, and was just lying about it. Banned!
Oh, and it looks like
she's the mod that keeps using "peddling" in ban messages! I was wondering who that was. Stop it.
I have very little respect for people who take positions like 'anyone who disagrees is x'
"Anyone who disagrees that children should not be eaten is a horrible cannibal."
(jk, I'm with you)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/assassins-creed-odyssey-has-an-alexios-problem-loomer.58290/
What's next? Is there going to be an option in TLoU2 that lets you decide whether Ellie is a lesbian woman or just an effininate-looking man?
First they're mad that you don't get the option to be a woman. Now they're mad that you have the option to be a man. Please tell me again how regressives want equality?
Alright, I again have to clarify their position. I don't agree with how they go about things, but I at least understand their argument. A single character is (generally speaking) able to be given more depth and nuance. You take something like Xenoblade, where the protagonist was given a full story and played a major role in the game (even if his personality was a bit shallow) and compare it to Xenoblade X, where the create-a-character playable protagonist was pretty much a non-presence in the story. Now, I know that's not always the case (Mass Effect series), but generally speaking, when given a choice of character, some depth needs to be sacrificed. So I understand why people advocating for more female characters wouldn't be satisfied with a choice or a create-a-character.
Discourse
You guys are really filled with hatred towards your president.
I mean, like him or not, I don't get why you need to use such language.
Be better.
User Banned (3 Days): trolling
This staff is unbelievable. The thing is, what everyone else looks at as bad practice ("You're driving away all moderate voices from your forum!") they see as a victory ("We're driving away all moderate voices from this forum! Yay!"). So it's pretty hard to criticize them in a meaningful way when our main criticisms are things they're proud of.
I mean, after all, there's nothing more poisonous for a discussion forum than ...*gag*...
civility.