Sales Bore | Media Create And Other Sale Numbers |OT|

[Cerveza mas fina]

Weird that MS is the one banking on services when both PS3/Wii are the streamboxes.

[archnemesis]

Sure,but multiple years give you the most important thing---trends.

Without the total hours you still don't know why the trends changed. For instance, a rise in video-on-demand percentage could be because the customers really like the quality of the service. But the trend could also have changed because people just got tired of playing video games on their consoles.

[Cerveza mas fina]

I'm still here.  I just put him on ignore.  Better for everyone that way; I have a hard time not yelling at stupid people.

Lol 600 hours of diablo who's stupid here.

Hint: you.

[maxy]

Sure,but multiple years give you the most important thing---trends.

Without the total hours you still don't know why the trends changed. For instance, a rise in video-on-demand percentage could be because the customers really like the quality of the service. But the trend could also have changed because people just got tired of playing video games on their consoles.

Well,here are some 360 hours

Microsoft has announced that Xbox 360 users amassed a total of 18 billion hours on their systems over 2012, an increase of 10 percent over 2011.

The company’s data shows that an average user spent over 87 hours a month on their Xbox 360, another 10 percent increase over 2011.

[archnemesis]

Cool. An average of 87 hours/month is a lot higher than what I expected.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I put 100+ hours on my Wii U monthly.  Of course all of that is either Netflix or Amazon Video but still.

[archnemesis]

I'm usually spread thin across multiple platforms unless I get really hooked on something.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Sales of consoles are down 31% in the Netherlands. From 800k in 2011 to 500k in 2012.

[Steve Contra]

Weird that MS is the one banking on services when both PS3/Wii are the streamboxes.

That's share of time spent.  It doesn't really say much about usage at all.

[maxy]

Sales of consoles are down 31% in the Netherlands. From 800k in 2011 to 500k in 2012.

Looks like console industry is doing fine everywhere.

[Steve Contra]

Looks like Metal Gear bomba.  Now for the sales

[Purple Filth]

1. Dead Space 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts
2. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, Wii U PC) Activision Blizzard
3. Crysis 3 (360, PS3, PC) Electronic Arts
4. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, PSP, PC) Take-Two Interactive
5. Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance (PS3, 360) Konami
6. Aliens: Colonial Marines 2013 (360, PS3, PC) Sega
7. Just Dance 4 (Wii, 360, PS3, Wii U) Ubisoft
8. Far Cry 3 (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft
9. Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (PS3, PSV) Sony
10. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U) Electronic Arts

Holy shit at Sly Cooper sneaking in 

[Purple Filth]

Whooole lotta bomba this month, haha. Even in the top ten.

Makes sense to be honest given some of these names on the list

[Purple Filth]

Can you say how MGR did and how it fared vs DmC?

[Huff]

In fact I'm pretty comfortable calling the bottom half of the new releases bombas, and even the top half is worth considering.

Burn, industry, burn

hows sly doing compared to the previous games?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Looks like I picked the right week to stop making games!

[maxy]

In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.

 

What was 3ds ltd before this month?

[Shaka Khan]

FE performing well

But how "well" are we talking here? Put it in terms of previous Intel Sys releases (namely FE and AW), if it's not too much to ask.

Edit: 250k (retail + digital) Though I still wonder how it stacks up against the previous games.

[Purple Filth]

What about my question  :'(

Can you say how MGR did and how it fared vs DmC?

[Steve Contra]

I'm going to say "better" than DmC, but still not very good.

[maxy]

In a separate statement, Nintendo reported that 455,000 units of hardware were sold in the U.S. in February, pushing 3DS past 8 million units to date.

 

What was 3ds ltd before this month?

Dunno,close to 8 million obviously.

cream has arrived

Vita ~ 38k, COD bundle ~ 44%
FE bundle ~ 19% retail
EO4 < 15k
NGS2P ~ 3k

[Purple Filth]

from creamsugar

Wii U ~ 66k

[Purple Filth]

MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(

[maxy]

Wii U top 15 (standalone sku)

Mario
Sonic
SU
Zombi
cod
jd4
batman
skylanders
mickey
wipeout
ac3
espn
avengers
sing party
rabbids

Sony Ecosystem < Xbox 360

MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3
 

The future is here

Samsung doesn't have a formal name for it just yet, but this concept device is expected to launch sometime this summer. It's basically a first-party Bluetooth controller with a full complement of face buttons, dual analog sticks, a D-pad and even shoulder buttons on the back. It's powered by dual AAA batteries and connects wirelessly, the phone held in place by an expanding clamp up top that looks plenty big enough to support a Note II (we tried, it fit fine) and maybe even something like the Note 8.0!

[Huff]

MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(

not even Metal Gear can break platinums curse

[Purple Filth]

MGRR: PS3~65%, total > 1/3 DS3

Ouch  :'(

not even Metal Gear can break platinums curse

tbf it seems to have done better in Japan and EU for them and also we don't know DS3 numbers

but yea it doesn't sound like they broke it by much.

[Huff]

Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

lul DmC

[Eel O'Brian]

The future is here
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Samsung doesn't have a formal name for it just yet, but this concept device is expected to launch sometime this summer. It's basically a first-party Bluetooth controller with a full complement of face buttons, dual analog sticks, a D-pad and even shoulder buttons on the back. It's powered by dual AAA batteries and connects wirelessly, the phone held in place by an expanding clamp up top that looks plenty big enough to support a Note II (we tried, it fit fine) and maybe even something like the Note 8.0!

that's a start, but i don't think this kind of stuff will really take off until google releases some sort of official nexus controller/attachment thing, or at least bakes native support for configurable controllers into android

[Purple Filth]

Cream again

Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada

[maxy]

PSP < 10k
100k < DS < 150k < 3DS < 200k < PS3 < 250k

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Sounds like a disaster all around.  When the #1 game of the month will not get a sequel due to underperformance, that's when you know there's serious problems.

Also LOL at the Wii U.  Iwata should just step down now, not that that is going to do Nintendo any good.  Gallons of Nintard tears are being shed for sure though.

[Trent Dole]

Next Nintendo Direct to be Iwata pulling a Budd Dwyer. 

[Purple Filth]

PSP < 10k
100k < DS < 150k < 3DS < 200k < PS3 < 250k

cream adjusted this with PS3 > 250k and Wii < 100k

and

And then Sony Ecosystem (PS3 + PSV + PSP) > Xbox 360 about 7K.

also

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MGRR > 190k
DS3 < 610k

[close]

but changed it to obfuscate it better 

MGRR > 3DS
DS3 < Microsony Ecosystem

So apparently MGR sold around the same as DmC's first month on NPD but Japan helped out Raiden with their numbers

[Human Snorenado]

In fact I'm pretty comfortable calling the bottom half of the new releases bombas, and even the top half is worth considering.

Burn, industry, burn

[Mr. Gundam]

Cream again

Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada

Better than DMC this month or LTD?

[Shaka Khan]

In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH

[Purple Filth]

Cream again

Ni no kuni ~ 50k this month, and better than DMC (360+PS3).

 :jada

Better than DMC this month or LTD?

this month as oscar said.

On one hand that's pretty good for Ni no Kuni imo but horrible for DMC, especially on 2 platforms

[pilonv1]

In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH

All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising

[Momo]

All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising

When I was a kid when I'd get a 5 year old video game as a gift I'd still be jumping up and down and happily playing. With today's media coverage of every single sneeze and fart a game makes I sometimes feel I 'know' it before even playing and when this is stacked with any other negative thing about a game I tend to pass.

[Shaka Khan]

In the long run Dead Space 2 ended up behind Dead Space by about 200k or so. 

SMH

All the focus on pre-ordering and day one killed sales outside of the first month, not surprising

That and sequels tend to be front loaded, but still, DS2 deserved better. It's not like the first game set the bar impossibly high, right?

[MCD]

So Rising bombed? I saw that coming when someone tweeted how you could beat it under 6 hours or so.

[MCD]

It's not only additional length. After chapter 4, you only have 3 chapters which are basically boss fights.

DMC4 had at least 10 chapters, not counting Dante's filler chapters. NG2 is about the same with 2 or 3 filler ones.

MGR to me had huge potential but was rushed thanks to Kojima fucking with it for far too long.

[Shaka Khan]

ehn, i don't think additional length would have helped it much.  but oh well, this was probably pretty cheap from the point platinum was brought in to completion, and with the strong japanese numbers, i'm sure konami made some money on it.  i hope it was successful enough from their pov to work with platinum again.  with the wii u in freefall, i'm very worried about platinum's future now.

Oh wow, I didn't think of the Wii U's implications on P*'s prospects until this post.

[archnemesis]

Haven't all of Platinum's games sold pretty poorly with maybe the exception of Bayonetta (1.35 million worldwide)? Vanquish did 880k.

[maxy]

Funny how nobody wants  WiiU Basic but everybody wants "Vita Basic"...Sony fucked up something

I don't think just dropping the price to $250 would help Basic,360 Core was priced $100 less but nobody cared about it.

[MCD]

They need to cater to the regular folks instead of action fans and their no damage ranking fetish.

[Sho Nuff]

Looks like I picked the right week to stop making games!

(Image removed from quote.)

F U Treesong

[Cerveza mas fina]

Well Platinum basicly makes games in a pretty niche genre outside of God of War. The hack and slash action adventure isn't really big in the US and Europe.

Maybe some games did ok in the past but I have never bought anything like God of War since I played DMC on the PS2. I don't know what people are expecting them to sell. Grasshopper is also in this pickle.

Vanquish is an exception but it was so Japanese/floaty in its controls... I couldn't get over that and I like 3rd person shooters a lot.

[maxy]

Some SS related numbers

- Soul Sacrifice bundle: 17k.
- Sell-through for all versions: 76% (~150k shipped)


Speaking of Vita,not sure how long will this thing last in US,February data shows sub 10k per week.I think that Gamestop alone has like 4.4k stores in US,so even if we wrongly assume 100% Gamestop market coverage that puts about 2 Vitas per store weekly.That is simply awful.

[Third]

I wonder how Bayonetta 2 will do on the Wii U. Especially in NA.

The consoles is practivally on life support, and Bayonetta is a Platinum Game aka not really a commercial game.

Something tells me that NIntendo wasted money with this deal, and PG is wasting time with it.

[Beezy]

Platinum

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Which games from this genre have come out this 8 year long gen that had some impact on the market? None.

God of War and Dantes Inferno are prob the only ones that sold well, but you have the data. But not well enough to get a Dantes Inferno 2, and you know EA would be down for that shit.

If we look at the NPD's from the last 6/8 years how many 3rd person melee action games are there?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Omg youre so smart and on the inside

[Cerveza mas fina]

december 2012

1. Call of Duty: Black Ops II (360, PS3, Wii U, PC)* Activision Blizzard
 
2. Just Dance 4 (Wii, 360, Wii U, PS3) Ubisoft
 
3. Halo 4 (360)* Microsoft
 
4. Assassin's Creed III (360, PS3, PC, Wii U)* Ubisoft
 
5. Madden NFL 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U) Electronic Arts
 
6. Far Cry 3 (360, PS3, PC) Ubisoft
 
7. NBA 2K13 (360, PS3, Wii, Wii U, PSP, PC)* Take 2 Interactive
 
8. Skylander Giants (Wii, 360, PS3, 3DS, Wii U)* Activision Blizzard
 
9. New Super Mario Bros. 2 (3DS) Nintendo
 
10. FIFA Soccer 13 (360, PS3, Wii, PSV, Wii U, 3DS, PSP) Electronic Arts

0 games in genre

1. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (X360, PS3, PC) - Activision
2. Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3) - Ubisoft
3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC) - Bethesda Softworks
4. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii, PC) - Take-Two
5. Battlefield 3 (X360, PS3, PC) - EA
6. Madden NFL 12 (X360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP) - EA
7. Mario Kart 7 (3DS) - Nintendo
8. Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure (360, PS3, Wii, 3DS, PC) - Activision Blizzard
9. Zumba Fitness 2 (Wii) - Majesco
10. Saints Row: The Third (360, PS3, PC) - THQ

0 games in january 2012

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
 2.Final Fantasy XIII-2 (PS3, 360)
 3.UFC Undisputed 3 (360, PS3)
 4.Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning (360, PS3, PC)
 5.Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)
 6.NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, PSP, Wii, PC, PS2)
 7.SoulCalibur 5 (360, PS3)
 8.Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (360, PS3, PC)
 9.Twisted Metal 2012 (PS3)
 10.Battlefield 3 (360, PS3, PC)

0 games in feb 12

SOFTWARE

01. Mass Effect 3 (360, PS3, PC)** Electronic Arts -Over 1.14 Million, possibly by a lot ("More than twice ME2 debut")
02. Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (360, PS3)** Capcom USA -582K
03. MLB 12: The Show (PS3, PSV) Sony (Corp)
04. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC, PS2) Take 2 Interactive
05. SSX 2012 (360, PS3) Electronic Arts
06. Street Fighter X Tekken (PS3, 360)** Capcom USA
07. Mario Party 9 (Wii) Nintendo - 230K
08. Call of Duty: Modern Warfar 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)** Activision Blizzard
09. Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja (360, PS3) Namco Bandai Games
10. Major League Baseball 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PSP, PC, PS2) Take 2 Interactive

0 games in march 12

[Cerveza mas fina]

Ive found 0 games so far in 2012 npd's top 10, im so so wrong.

•1.) Prototype 2 (360, PS3)
 •2.) Kinect: Star Wars (360)
 •3.) Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)
 •4.) Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13 (360, PS3)
 •5.) NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC, PS2)
 •6.) The Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings (360, PC)
 •7.) Mario Party 9 (Wii)
 •8.) Mass Effect 3 (360, PS3, PC)
 •9.) Just Dance 3 (Wii, 360, PS3)
 •10.) MLB 12: The Show (PS3, PSV)

April 12, 0 games

[Beezy]

Platinum

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?

It sold just fine in Japan.

So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?

[archnemesis]

So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?

Selling well in one region might not be enough depending on development costs.

[Joe Molotov]

Platinum

I thought Japan loved action games. Is the problem that they're not on handhelds?

It sold just fine in Japan.

So what's all this Platinum doom talk in here about?

They make WiiU games.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Oscar I did 6 months of NPD in 2012, 0 games in this niche genre. So youre wrong. Im right.  So dont get butthurt if you are wrong.

Im not going to do more "research" cause its clear that if out of 60 games that charted 0 of them are even in genre the genre aint much.

May 0 2012 games...