Author Topic: The NBA thread (Read 1520727 times)

Mandark · « **Reply #1380 on:** March 08, 2011, 03:47:34 AM »

I imagine Flip Saunders showing these numbers to Nick Young, using bar graphs and shot charts to visualize it, patiently going through the concepts and how Young could apply them to his own game.

I imagine Nick Young nodding, agreeing, poring over the data rapt in attention, before he plays the game that night and takes 20 midrange jumpers.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1381 on:** March 08, 2011, 06:41:08 AM »

Hey, Nick Young won't listen. But Chris Paul might.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #1382 on:** March 08, 2011, 07:40:17 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2011, 02:28:08 PM

tl dr: i'm looking for a bandwagon to jump on

You, Beezy, Cajole, and Smooth Groove should get no love

WTF

I'm a lifelong LA resident that has sworn a blood feud with the current champions. If anything, I'm the ultimate anti-bandwagoner.

Bocsius · « **Reply #1383 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:24:44 AM »

Getting kind of ridiculous, Miami.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1384 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:33:06 AM »

The way they've played is just catching up to them. They've never played good team basketball. Everybody including the other superstars just sit around while the one superstar who currently has the ball goes 1 on 5.

And they are in the tough part of their schedule. No more feasting on sub 500 teams to pad out that record. They need a new coach who plans to implement an actual offensive system. I'm like a broken record on this but its what I see every time I watch them play. It shouldn't take a genius to figure this stuff out.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1385 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:59:45 AM »

C-Webb just ethered them on Twitter (and on Sports Center). Apparently they need to go 18-0 to match Cleveland's record last year. oh god.

T-Short · « **Reply #1386 on:** March 09, 2011, 09:13:57 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 09, 2011, 08:59:45 AM

C-Webb just ethered them on Twitter (and on Sports Center). Apparently they need to go 18-0 to match Cleveland's record last year. oh god.

LINK IT

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1387 on:** March 09, 2011, 09:39:12 AM »

horrible shaky cam but this is all i have (from NBA TV, not Sports Center, d'oh):

[youtube=560,345]1gIZq6LADqc[/youtube]

Bacchus7 · « **Reply #1388 on:** March 09, 2011, 10:14:56 AM »

I've been waiting for this rematch for a while. Portland was just the better team out there.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1389 on:** March 09, 2011, 11:50:28 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on March 09, 2011, 09:39:12 AM

horrible shaky cam but this is all i have (from NBA TV, not Sports Center, d'oh):

[youtube=560,345]1gIZq6LADqc[/youtube]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2011/03/08/20110308_webber_on_heat.nba/

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1390 on:** March 09, 2011, 07:33:14 PM »

Spoelstra is getting kind of ridiculous on the Riley motivational speeches. He doesn't have the experience or the charisma to be playing those kind of mind games. Crying in the locker room?

He could very well have lost the team and his job with that.

Let's just see ONE little adjustment to how they actually play on the floor first. In the past week, I've seen any number of great suggestions for things that would probably make the Heat immediately better on offense and make everyone happier:

work in some lobs on cuts from Wade to LeBron - this is just a devastating weapon for Portland and Boston, yet you only see the Heat throw lobs in transition (from J.A. Adande)
get Bosh some touches in the low post (Bosh is agitating for this now, oh boy)
get Bibby involved in pick and rolls - if he's out there at all, he needs to be looking to shoot 'cause he's a total liability on defense. Yet all he does is spot up for corner threes.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1391 on:** March 09, 2011, 07:46:22 PM »

The thing is, it's hard to imagine that haven't been working on this stuff in practice all year. So either Spoelstra is a moron and hasn't been doing this or they have but not enough which I think is the more likely case.

Part of the reason I think Spolestra has to go is you need a coach on that team of such stature and magnitude that Lebron and Wade buy into it. Somebody who's track record is such that when they say do x,y or, z, his record of success means those guys commit. Sort of the Phil Jackson thing.

I think its probably pretty easy for players who are so talented like Lebron and Wade to just revert back to what they know and not trust anybody and go one on 5. The coach and those two have to be on the same page of saying its a team thing. And actually running an offense.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1392 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:10:04 PM »

Yes, but who are those coaches? If Coach K from Duke finally gave in and took an NBA job, this would be the one, I suppose. It worked out pretty well at the Olympics. Jackson and Doc Rivers are on the verge of retirement / temporary break from the NBA respectively (Doc wants to go coach his kids). Popovich is locked up for another few years at least, and will probably be in the Spurs organization for life. Larry Brown's record has been seriously tarnished by his last few stops, as has Nellie's. George Karl is locked up. Jerry Sloan?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1393 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:19:27 PM »

Flip Saunders!

Bocsius · « **Reply #1394 on:** March 09, 2011, 08:38:38 PM »

I figure they'll get John Calipari. Fire him after a couple of years and then get somebody worth having.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1395 on:** March 10, 2011, 07:16:06 PM »

bumping for more Heat humiliation today. I've watched the last few Lakers games (which is hard for me) and I have to say, they are back on form. The interior defense is brutal and I expect Miami will get very little in the paint tonight, even if Bosh's complaining pays off and he gets more low post touches.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1396 on:** March 10, 2011, 07:24:56 PM »

I was glad to see that stuff from Bosh. He does need to go inside more and get more touches inside.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1397 on:** March 10, 2011, 07:35:44 PM »

absolutely. They desperately need more variety in their offense. Their assist ratio is also miserable. Even if Bosh just passes out of the post like Boozer once in a while, it'll help.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1398 on:** March 10, 2011, 08:10:11 PM »

Bosh definitely more aggressive near the rim tonight so far.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1399 on:** March 10, 2011, 08:56:46 PM »

This season has been a great reminder of how awesome Odom can be. Scored on low post spin move and 3 on consecutive possessions

Bosh can't touch that.

Bocsius · « **Reply #1400 on:** March 10, 2011, 10:45:36 PM »

2-0 versus the Lakers
0-n versus everybody else

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1401 on:** March 10, 2011, 11:31:37 PM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Mandark · « **Reply #1402 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:07:39 AM »

Hollinger on Kobe's postgame practice session:

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And after the game, it was still about him, with his grandiose hey-look-at-me-working-out show succeeding brilliantly in sucking all the attention from his fit of self-indulgence at the end of the game. (News flash: American Airlines Arena has a practice court. I've been on it. It's nice and big and everything. But it's tough to herd all the media up there to fawn over your postgame workout.) If I were Pau Gasol or Andrew Bynum, I would have made an equally big show of going out to the court and standing helplessly in the paint calling for the ball while Bryant practiced his shots, just to add an extra element of realism.

Awwww snap.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1403 on:** March 12, 2011, 12:25:05 AM »

yeah it's not like he has 5 titles or anything

Mandark · « **Reply #1404 on:** March 12, 2011, 01:18:14 AM »

You're right, that does put him beyond any criticism!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1405 on:** March 12, 2011, 07:37:07 AM »

No crying in the locker room for the Black Mamba. Just gets a big press crew together and heads out to the court at midnight to remind the world that it was all someone else's fault that he took and missed all the big shots again.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1406 on:** March 15, 2011, 09:46:29 PM »

I'm not sure why it takes you this long into a career and into a season to decide that going inside and trying to score when you're 6-11 is a good idea but Bosh finally coming to this conclusion is only a good thing for the heat. They kicked the crap out of the spurs last night and have been playing better since Bosh seems to be going inside more.

Mandark · « **Reply #1407 on:** March 15, 2011, 11:19:30 PM »

Eh, if Bosh regularly makes long 2's off the catch, that's great for the Heat since their best two players are slashers and could use the spacing, plus he'd be pulling away a potential shot blocker in the other team's 4.

But I'll admit I've never watched that much of him in action so I don't know if he's suited for catch-and-shoot or if he's a Caron Butler type who's more comfortable taking a few seconds setting himself up in an iso situation.

Not like a three game win streak needs a ton of analysis anyways. Same for a five game losing streak, at that.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1408 on:** March 15, 2011, 11:32:39 PM »

Knicks are awesome.

Best part of my day was driving during my lunch break and listening to a sports talk distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who loved the Melo trade turn on him already. Incredible.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #1409 on:** March 15, 2011, 11:42:58 PM »

SMH, Cajole, you are even worse than Wrath.

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 15, 2011, 09:46:29 PM

I'm not sure why it takes you this long into a career and into a season to decide that going inside and trying to score when you're 6-11 is a good idea but Bosh finally coming to this conclusion is only a good thing for the heat. They kicked the crap out of the spurs last night and have been playing better since Bosh seems to be going inside more.

Maybe it's because playing inside is a lot more physically demanding? Even though I'm only 5'10, my friends always make me play inside because of my strength and hops. Posting up drains my energy really fast because I have to use power to create space every time and once I score a couple, secondary defenders are always slapping at my hands. Or maybe it's just me because I'm out of shape. LOL

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1410 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:21:52 AM »

Quote from: Smooth Groove on March 15, 2011, 11:42:58 PM

SMH, Cajole, you are even worse than Wrath.

I just like seeing stupid people be wrong.

Also, I know Stoney defended the trade here for the most part, but he was so level-headed like he always is. I mean other people. And really, it's not like I'm watching the Knicks much more than I did before (barely). I was beginning to watch again before the trade.

etiolate · « **Reply #1411 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:25:45 AM »

You can always watch the Nuggets

Beezy · « **Reply #1412 on:** March 16, 2011, 10:44:22 AM »

Jeffries showed exactly how shit he really is last night.

Quote from: etiolate on March 16, 2011, 01:25:45 AM

You can always watch the Nuggets

I've been watching them whenever I can since the trade.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1413 on:** March 16, 2011, 10:55:30 AM »

Quote from: Beezy on March 16, 2011, 10:44:22 AM

Jeffries showed exactly how shit he really is last night.

Quote from: etiolate on March 16, 2011, 01:25:45 AM
You can always watch the Nuggets
I've been watching them whenever I can since the trade.

Knicks West

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #1414 on:** March 17, 2011, 12:00:36 AM »

I was watching the Heat's post-game conference and Bosh was seriously close to tears. It's not his fault though. All the other bigs on the Heat have been consistent in providing less than 5 pts + 5 rbs per game, combined. It's a miracle that the Heat have won this many games. I don't even think Haslem would make enough of a difference next year. Is there any Ibaka-like player on the market this summer?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1415 on:** March 17, 2011, 12:54:56 AM »

Even if there is the Heat have no money to get them, unless they can trade for one with Mike Millers corpse

ManaByte · « **Reply #1416 on:** March 17, 2011, 02:46:23 AM »

The owners of the Sacramento Kings have registered trademarks for the Anaheim Royals.

etiolate · « **Reply #1417 on:** March 17, 2011, 05:11:47 PM »

Not that Anaheim cares

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1418 on:** March 24, 2011, 01:31:31 PM »

Reality has set in on the knicks.

Most people are back on the Lakers bandwagon for another title.

Nobody believes in the spurs.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1419 on:** March 24, 2011, 08:07:00 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 24, 2011, 01:31:31 PM

Reality has set in on the knicks.

bubububu two "super"stars

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1420 on:** March 24, 2011, 08:11:26 PM »

They were never going to win a playoff round or win a title this year before or after the trade. Now at least they have the ability to get better in the future and draw another free-agent.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1421 on:** March 25, 2011, 09:48:06 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 24, 2011, 08:11:26 PM

They were never going to win a playoff round or win a title this year before or after the trade. Now at least they have the ability to get better in the future and draw another free-agent.

Yeah, a free agent is really going to want to come to this trainwreck.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1422 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:27:40 PM »

Chris Paul already said he wants to. There are a LOT of trainwreck teams in the NBA, dude.

etiolate · « **Reply #1423 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:39:09 PM »

If there's a trainwreck, Chris Paul will be injured in it.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1424 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:49:56 PM »

Yeah, I realize I'm acting like a moron.

Quote from: etiolate on March 25, 2011, 10:39:09 PM

If there's a trainwreck, Chris Paul will be injured in it.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1425 on:** March 25, 2011, 10:50:47 PM »

cold blooded

Mandark · « **Reply #1426 on:** March 25, 2011, 11:07:59 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 25, 2011, 09:48:06 PM

Yeah, a free agent is really going to want to come to this trainwreck.

Yeah, the New York fan complains that his team can't attract any players.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1427 on:** March 26, 2011, 01:24:57 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 25, 2011, 11:07:59 PM

Quote from: CajoleJuice on March 25, 2011, 09:48:06 PM
Yeah, a free agent is really going to want to come to this trainwreck.

Yeah, the New York fan complains that his team can't attract any players.

annihilated

this is why i stick to baseball

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1428 on:** March 26, 2011, 01:39:22 AM »

I can just imagine Cajole walking into an imaginary NBA Fan Store, picking the NY Knicks box off the shelf and thinking "looks like the Mets, I'll have to rent this"

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1429 on:** March 26, 2011, 01:04:40 PM »

The Celtics are 9-7 since the Perkins trade.

The Lakers are 14-1 since the All-Star Break.

Just saying.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1430 on:** March 26, 2011, 02:09:29 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 26, 2011, 01:39:22 AM

I can just imagine Cajole walking into an imaginary NBA Fan Store, picking the NY Knicks box off the shelf and thinking "looks like the Mets, I'll have to rent this"

hahahah

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1431 on:** March 28, 2011, 12:38:37 AM »

Quote

LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh each had at least 30 points and 10 rebounds in the Heat win -- just the second time in NBA history three teammates reached those marks in a non-overtime game.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #1432 on:** March 28, 2011, 10:36:38 PM »

Knicks win! Woooo

Mandark · « **Reply #1433 on:** March 28, 2011, 11:58:35 PM »

Hey, did Cormac make it out to that Clippers game while he was in Cali?

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I feel a little bad asking about this, cause it turned out to be an awesome 2OT game and if he didn't then it's almost taunting.

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etiolate · « **Reply #1434 on:** March 29, 2011, 12:05:31 AM »

read the random talk thread

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #1435 on:** March 29, 2011, 12:07:42 AM »

Quote from: Mandark on March 28, 2011, 11:58:35 PM

Hey, did Cormac make it out to that Clippers game while he was in Cali?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I feel a little bad asking about this, cause it turned out to be an awesome 2OT game and if he didn't then it's almost taunting.
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getting FoC flashbacks. You're slippin

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1436 on:** March 29, 2011, 12:22:54 AM »

Boston is really slipping. I don't follow them enough to know if this is just injuries and a temporary thing or if they have fallen off track in a big way somehow.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1437 on:** March 29, 2011, 06:25:49 AM »

I think Danny Ainge may have lost the team with the Perkins trade. Plus, they are missing Shaq, J O'Neal, Marquis Daniels, Troy Murphy, Rondo is in and out, so is Delonte West and Big Baby...I don't know if they have time to get used to the new line-up(s) before the playoffs start. It's tough - whoever gets the #1 seed in the East is gonna be playing a 30-35 win team. Whoever gets the 3rd could be playing Melo and Amare or the surprising Sixers. Tough time to fade.

Mandark - I wrote up a fairly long reply to Smooth Groove here -
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=34032.msg1294573#msg1294573

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #1438 on:** March 29, 2011, 10:17:17 PM »

Cavs beat the Heat tonight.

Bocsius · « **Reply #1439 on:** March 30, 2011, 12:13:14 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on March 29, 2011, 10:17:17 PM

Cavs beat the Heat tonight.

see, what

what had happened was

News:

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