"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Joe Molotov]

I can't decide which of today's Onion headlines I like better:

RomneyLabs Concocts 'Doomsday Zinger' Capable Of Swinging Any Debate, However Lopsided

or

Romney Foreign Policy Debate Prep In Crisis Mode After Discovering Existence Of Country Called 'Womania'

[Van Cruncheon]

i'm just sayin', there's a pretty close margin in those swing states...

[TakingBackSunday]

kill the curmudgeon

[Phoenix Dark]

Former Israeli Spymaster: We Need To Talk to Iran
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/israelsecurityiran.html#ixzz2A2DySOjZ

Great interview with former Mossad head Efraim Halevy

[Mandark]

former Mossad head Efraim Halevy

Obviously an anti-semite.

[Van Cruncheon]

flashback to 2000

[TakingBackSunday]

flashback to 2000

what's this in reference to, the link PD posted?

[Van Cruncheon]

oh, i expect there to be all sorts of vote count shenanigans and suppression efforts on a scale that will make 2000 pale. romney's wealthy benefactors clearly see a greater good (israel, neoconservative nation building, the general ideology of the rich that presumes anything good for them must be good for the little people) that necessitates a suspension of any/all immediate ethical credos. after all, obama is a CRIMINAL that MUST be stopped at any cost, for america...

[Mandark]

Gonna second PD recommending that interview.  Kept getting to parts that made me think "Yes! Thank you!"

Although the claim was, if you talk to them, you legitimize them But by not talking to them, you don't de-legitimate them.

But to understand it is not to justify

[TakingBackSunday]

oh, i expect there to be all sorts of vote count shenanigans and suppression efforts on a scale that will make 2000 pale. romney's wealthy benefactors clearly see a greater good (israel, neoconservative nation building, the general ideology of the rich that presumes anything good for them must be good for the little people) that necessitates a suspension of any/all immediate ethical credos. after all, obama is a CRIMINAL that MUST be stopped at any cost, for america...

I'm doubtful of any of this actually gaining traction in the states that matter.  Ohio already said fuck you to Husted.  That sort of stuff might factor into NH's final results, and Florida is already most likely Romney's to begin with...I can't imagine that shit really happening in a dire way in IO or CO.

[AdmiralViscen]

It's IA, not IO.

Obama only needs NV and OH to win, and those are his strongest swing states. He doesn't even need CO or VA or even IA unless he starts losing WI or NH. I don't think he will lose WI but even if he loses NH it doesn't matter if he has OH+NV.

[Oblivion]

http://www.theonion.com/articles/romney-campaign-releases-new-picture-of-candidate,30048/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:teaser:default

[TakingBackSunday]

It's IA, not IO.

Obama only needs NV and OH to win, and those are his strongest swing states. He doesn't even need CO or VA or even IA unless he starts losing WI or NH. I don't think he will lose WI but even if he loses NH it doesn't matter if he has OH+NV.

ah my bad.  I've always sucked at state abbreviations

[Human Snorenado]

The problem for Romney is that he almost has to run the table in the swing states to win.  The problem for Obama is that's the way shit is trending.  It will probably all come down to turnout vs. dirty tricks.  I'm starting to think betting on dirty tricks is the smart bet.

Honestly though, if America is this fucking dumb we deserve to be a banana republic ruled over by our Galtian 1% overlords.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

oh, i expect there to be all sorts of vote count shenanigans and suppression efforts on a scale that will make 2000 pale. romney's wealthy benefactors clearly see a greater good (israel, neoconservative nation building, the general ideology of the rich that presumes anything good for them must be good for the little people) that necessitates a suspension of any/all immediate ethical credos. after all, obama is a CRIMINAL that MUST be stopped at any cost, for america...

Considering the mass voter suppression Obama will carry out via the Black Panthers and ACORN, he is a criminal that does need to be stopped at any cost.

Also I agree with the rest of your post.  Ohio will be the new Florida as Romney slinks into his victory.

[Oblivion]

[TakingBackSunday]

ya'll are crazy.  Ohio and Nevada have been mostly consistent since the summer.

aka: Nate Silver is my god

[Human Snorenado]

I really, really hope so.  Just have a bad feeling.

[TakingBackSunday]

resisting the urge to post chillthefuckoutigotthis.jpg

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

No way.

After Romney wins this debate, Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia almost instantly turn red.  Nevada and Ohio hold out for a little while longer, with both states falling into Romney's camp next week.  Then the "true battleground states" end up being New Hampshire and Wisconsin.  New Hampshire will lean Obama but after significant voter suppression, Diebold, ACORN, NBPP, etc., Wisconsin tips into a narrow Romney victory.

[Oblivion]

Is there any merit to that voting machines being owned by Tagg Romney story floating around?

[TakingBackSunday]

I don't think its garnered any national attention, of fucking course.

[Oblivion]

The voting machine conspiracies belong in same category as the Trump birther garbage.

[Steve Contra]

I read something that called the Libya thing "the worst response to a an attack on America ever" or some such nonsense.  Did these people completely forget Iraq?  I'm guessing they did.

[Phoenix Dark]

What exactly are they proposing Obama should have done about Libya? Start bombing? Send ground troops? Seriously, what response are they demanding for a terrorist attack that no government had a part in?

ohhh that's right, I remember how they responded to the last terrorist attack that no government had a part in

[Steve Contra]

I'm going to go ahead say that they really want a condemnation of Islam as a whole.  This is just circling the bowl for them really.

[Boogie]

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/20/why_the_foreign_policy_debate_is_already_ruined

the fuck?  Two-thirds of the debate is going to be dedicated to the Middle East?  ffs....

[Joe Molotov]

Not really surprising.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/20/why_the_foreign_policy_debate_is_already_ruined

the fuck?  Two-thirds of the debate is going to be dedicated to the Middle East?  ffs....

To make it even more hilarious, I bet there won't be much Pakistan talk

And I bet there won't be any arms control talk either

[AdmiralViscen]

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/20/why_the_foreign_policy_debate_is_already_ruined

the fuck?  Two-thirds of the debate is going to be dedicated to the Middle East?  ffs....

 

[Howard Alan Treesong]

"Obama's Middle East Policy: Threat or Menace?"

[Phoenix Dark]

"Who is our greatest threat, October Iran or November Iran?"

[Great Rumbler]

"America's Greatest Threat: Obama or Iran?"

[Joe Molotov]

Iran: Our Second Greatest Geopolitical Foe

[AdmiralViscen]

The first question was written by the Romney campaign

We have learned that we can't kill our way out of terrorism from a Republican, and that Osama doesn't matter

[Oblivion]

"We can't kill our way out of this mess." - A Republican

[Great Rumbler]

"We can't kill our way out of this mess." - A Republican

Incredible.

[MIMIC]

God damn, the CNN undecided voters are all over the fuckin place tonight.

[Great Rumbler]

Romney's looking upset already.

[Joe Molotov]

Guess I better switch over to this, the Cards are playing the choke card early tonight.

[AdmiralViscen]

Obama jumped the gun

[MIMIC]

So WTF is Mitt gonna do? Send all of the Muslims to "don't hate America" camp?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

ROMNEY WITH THE SMACKDOWN

[MyNameIsMethodis]

WHO DERE WHO DERE ITS ROMNEY MOTHERFUCKER

[Phoenix Dark]

Romney seems quite...reserved. I think Obama may be too aggressive but still, it's weird

[AdmiralViscen]

Romney seems quite...reserved. I think Obama may be too aggressive but still, it's weird

Fuck it, that won the first debate and nothing calls for more chest puffing than foreign policy.

The CNN bars seem Obama friendly to me so far

[Great Rumbler]

ROMNEY SMIRK

[MIMIC]

Did Mitt forget he's a Republican? His answer was almost identical to Obama's in terms of the anti-war stance.

[Oblivion]

Romney's Syria response is horrible. He almost literally repeated everything Obama just said.

[Boogie]

Ya, this is snooze-worthy so far.

[TakingBackSunday]

can someone shit on holmes already

[Great Rumbler]

Mitt: No military involvement in Syria

[Joe Molotov]

Romney would do the same thing, but he would do it better.

[Oblivion]

Mitt: No military involvement in Syria

"but we need a leadership role"

Whatever that means.

[Great Rumbler]

Mitt: No military involvement in Syria

"but we need a leadership role"

Whatever that means.

And it means...nothing.

[Mandark]

Not watching this, but I predict the general Romney line will be: Obama's doing horrible, things are falling apart, we need to do something different, and no don't worry I'm not going to invade anyone that would be crazy.

[Great Rumbler]

Not watching this, but I predict the general Romney line will be: Obama's doing horrible, things are falling apart, we need to do something different, and no don't worry I'm not going to invade anyone that would be crazy.

His line so far is "We should be doing exactly what Obama is doing, but better somehow."

[TakingBackSunday]

Romney would do the same thing, but he would do it harder.

fixed

[AdmiralViscen]

Not watching this, but I predict the general Romney line will be: Obama's doing horrible, things are falling apart, we need to do something different, and no don't worry I'm not going to invade anyone that would be crazy.

It's actually far milder than that

[Trurl]

http://drezner.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/10/20/why_the_foreign_policy_debate_is_already_ruined

the fuck?  Two-thirds of the debate is going to be dedicated to the Middle East?  ffs....

The United States is obsessed.