"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Mandark]

Matt Yglesias is what I'd be like if I had been a good student, and it makes me a little glad I wasn't.

[Phoenix Dark]

O'Donnell on masturbation
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It's like something straight out of Arrested Development

[ToxicAdam]

Not so MILF-y anymore, aye?

[Fresh Prince]

So wrong, TA.
- 20 year olds > MILFs
- Makes masturbating to her feel dirtier
- 90s long wavy hair

also  @ having a 'marketing' manager

[Human Snorenado]

Oh man.  Oh shit.

PUHLEEEZE let these teahadists win in November.  America needs to get the govt. it deserves, and we need to get it good and hard.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9009/21341212/Big_night_for_tea_party_ODonnell_wins_Delaware

Republican Party officials who saw Castle as their only hope for winning the Delaware seat once held by Vice President Joe Biden made clear they will not provide funding for O'Donnell in the general election. The Republican state chairman, Tom Ross, has said O'Donnell "could not be elected dogcatcher," and records surfaced during the campaign showing that the IRS had once slapped a lien against her and that her house had been headed for foreclosure. She also claimed -- falsely -- to have carried two of the state's counties in a race against Biden six years ago.

Even repugs think she's crazy. Wow Americans are stupid.

[Human Snorenado]

As someone who supposedly supports letting locals decide what they want to do, I am shocked, SHOCKED I say to find out that you don't find the intervention of a California lobbying group, a South Carolina Senator who has publicly said that he wants purity purges in the party, and a noted Alaskan lunatic into Deleware politics to be objectionable.


...ok that's a lie, I totally understand why you wouldn't care.  You don't care about issues or policy at all, it's all about THE PHILOSOPHY with you tards.

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9009/21341212/Big_night_for_tea_party_ODonnell_wins_Delaware

Republican Party officials who saw Castle as their only hope for winning the Delaware seat once held by Vice President Joe Biden made clear they will not provide funding for O'Donnell in the general election. The Republican state chairman, Tom Ross, has said O'Donnell "could not be elected dogcatcher," and records surfaced during the campaign showing that the IRS had once slapped a lien against her and that her house had been headed for foreclosure. She also claimed -- falsely -- to have carried two of the state's counties in a race against Biden six years ago.

Even repugs think she's crazy. Wow Americans are stupid.

Apparently she's also been paying her rent and bills with campaign money.

Also:

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[Human Snorenado]

Right, because Delaware Republicans = South Carolina Republicans.  Good call.

The actual PARTY activists chose Castle.  The lunatics who register Republican and watch Fox news voted for the nutbar.

[Oblivion]

    The primary here today will determine definitively whether the Tea Party is capable of carrying its rebellion to a truly absurd extreme.

    Want to know how angry the state’s Republican leaders are at the campaign of Christine O’Donnell, the perennial candidate who is threatening Rep. Mike Castle in the U.S. Senate race? Here’s what Delaware Republican Party chairman Tom Ross told me last night:

       " I could buy a parrot and train it to say, ‘tax cuts,’ but at the end of the day, it’s still a parrot, not a conservative."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/09/the_tea_party_from_rebellion_t.html

[Phoenix Dark]

More needs to be done to put the numbers involved in extending the Bush tax cuts in context, so consider this: There is no policy that President Obama has passed or proposed that added as much to the deficit as the Republican Party's $3.9 trillion extension of the Bush tax cuts. In fact, if you put aside Obama's plan to extend most, but not all, of the Bush tax cuts, there is no policy he has passed or proposed that would do half as much damage to the deficit. There is not even a policy that would do a quarter as much damage to the deficit.

The stimulus bill, at $787 billion, would do about a fifth as much damage. But that's actually misleading: The stimulus bill was a temporary expense (not to mention a response to an unexpected emergency). Once it's done, it's done. An indefinite extension of the Bush tax cuts is, well, indefinite. It will cost $3.9 trillion in the first 10 years. And then it will cost more than that in the second 10 years. Call that number Y. And then it will cost more than Y in the third 10 years. And so on and on into eternity. Comparatively, the stimulus bill is a tiny fraction of that. The bank bailouts, which were passed by George W. Bush and the Democrats in 2006, will end up costing the government only $66 billion. The health-care bill improves the deficit outlook.

Republicans and tea party candidates are both running campaigns based around concern for the deficit. But both, to my knowledge, support the single-largest increase in the deficit that anyone of either party has proposed in memory.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/09/putting_the_39_trillion_extens.html

Fiscal responsibility

[Oblivion]

.....and like fucking clockwork:

Democrats will not rule out compromising with Republicans on the Bush tax cuts benefiting the wealthiest Americans, according to House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer.

At his weekly press availability this morning, Hoyer declined to draw a bright line on the issue of tax cuts for the rich, adding to the uncertainty over whether Democrats will force Republicans to choose between tax cuts for the middle class, or no tax cuts at all.

"I'm always, as you know, prepared to discuss alternatives so that we can move forward," Hoyer told reporters.

Though Democrats have committed to ensuring that tax cuts for middle-income brackets are extended permanently, they have yet to determine how or when they'll accomplish that, let alone whether they might be amenable to a temporary extension of tax cuts for the rich. Hoyer said that he personally supports Obama's tax plan and eventually wants to offset the middle class tax cuts.

Nevertheless, they're hoping that House Minority Leader John Boehner's moment of candor this past Sunday has exposed the GOP's dilemma, giving them an upper hand in the debate.

"Mr. Boehner made the mistake of a few short seconds of reasonableness which lead the Wall Street Journal to say that he was maybe not appropriate to be the Speaker," Hoyer said. "So I'm not sure where they're going to go. So I don't want to anticipate what they would or would not do."

sigh

[Phoenix Dark]

How hard is it to schedule a vote on extending tax cuts for the middle class. Jesus christ. I realize this is a ticking bomb (republicans could block everything and ensure everything expires in January, raising everyone's taxes thus Obama gets blamed/shitcanned) but come the fuck on. Grow some balls and start a vote.

In short, DEMS: listen to Pelosi, tell Stenny to fuck himself
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/pelosi-implores-dems-on-tax-cuts-who-do-you-stand-with.php?ref=fpblg

[Mandark]

I figure they hang out with rich people all the time and are misjudging the popularity of the top rate cuts.  I'd also wager that the Members making the biggest stink about the deficit correlate pretty well with the ones who want to keep the whole array of cuts.



PS JD, Triumph pretty much nailed you, hypocrisy aside.  You've never given the impression of grappling with the politics required to get libertarian policy goals.  You just re-state your core beliefs over and over and over and over and over*.  Which is your prerogative, but don't get mad at people for pointing it out.

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Interspersed with wildly ignorant statements about the civil rights movement.

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[Human Snorenado]

I fail to see any hypocrisy on my part... I freely admit that most of my ideas are impractical and not likely to work, it's just that I think publicly beheading Wall St. execs would be COOL.

[Oblivion]

It's almost as if pre-emptively caving in is a democratic reflex or something. When John Boehner said on Sunday that he would support a vote for only middle class tax cuts, the VERY NEXT FRIGGEN DAY, you had Chris Van Hollen say that they would be open to having a one year long extension. WHY WOULD YOU COMPROMISE? YOU'RE WINNING YOU STUPID USELESS MONKEYS AKJFKDJFJKDFLKDJF

I fail to see any hypocrisy on my part... I freely admit that most of my ideas are impractical and not likely to work, it's just that I think publicly beheading Wall St. execs would be COOL.

I think he was referring to JD with the hypocrisy.

[Phoenix Dark]

gotta be shitting me

They Must Really Not Want Her

ABC's Jake Tapper has a curious scoop, reporting that President Obama will name Elizabeth Warren not to run the new consumer financial protection bureau but instead will give her the previously unheralded "special position reporting to both him and to the Treasury Department and tasked with heading the effort to get the new federal agency standing." Get that?

We're seeking more clarification now, but it sounds like the White House has decided that instead of nominating Warren to head up the new consumer financial protection bureau, or alternatively avoiding the confirmation process and appointing her as interim director, the President will take a third way and make her a special adviser to help set the bureau up.

I tend to agree with Matt Yglesias on this: "With Warren, Obama showing real innovation in developing odd, satisfying to nobody compromises."

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/09/they_must_really_not_want_her.php?ref=fpblg

Between this and the apparent pre-emptive surrender on taxes, it's pretty clear the democrats have no plan for anything outside of losing the house.

[Tristam]

The latest CBS poll shows a majority of Americans want the high-income tax cuts to expire, and yet the Democrats are still bending over backwards to compromise with an uncompromising party.

One party is destructive; the other, through its spinelessness, is merely complicit in the destruction.

[Tristam]

The entirety of your moral, political, and economic philosophies is based upon intangibles that you choose to define based on your own subjective values but lord over others as though they're objective truths.

[Dickie Dee]

Or these truths exist because they do.

[Mupepe]

crap i posted this in the wrong thread.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The latest CBS poll shows a majority of Americans want the high-income tax cuts to expire, and yet the Democrats are still bending over backwards to compromise with an uncompromising party.

One party is destructive; the other, through its spinelessness, is merely complicit in the destruction.

The majority of Americans wanted a public option too.  Democrats really aren't interested in what people want.

Which is why I'm not going to be shedding tears when the collective Democratic asshole gets prolapsed come November.  They had a great opportunity to do things that they completely squandered.

[Phoenix Dark]

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2012

[Mandark]

So there's a kerfuffle about Marty Peretz saying he's unsure that Muslims are "worthy" of first amendment protections.  No surprise, cause he's an stupid old sack of shit and has been saying nasty things about Muslims and Arabs since forever.

But still, I'm getting myself pissed off by reading other people defend him, mostly along the line of "Aw, you don't know Marty.  He shoots his mouth off a lot, but he's really a great guy!"  I don't expect his friends to suddenly turn on him, but opinion journalists like Jeffrey Goldberg and Jon Chait--who have no compunctions about making really blunt public judgments of other people based on public statements--shouldn't expect Peretz to get special protection.

Hell, Goldberg especially.  He wrote a cover story for TNR that basically read "ANTI-SEMITES!  ANTI-SEMITES!  ANTI-SEMITES!" in response to the Walt-Mearsheimer book, and they didn't say anything remotely approaching Peretz's statement in terms of bigotry or hate.  Fuck that guy.

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And I didn't even think his story on Israel bombing Iran was nearly as bad as some people said.  But he just ain't a good person.

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[Phoenix Dark]

He walked it back: while Arabs do actually deserve first amendment protections, they still don't care about human life. So while they certainly are barbarians, they have the same rights as you or I

[Dickie Dee]

I think Goldberg's Iran v. Israel article was that bad. Dressing it up in pretend impartiality only made it worse, not better. Apparently you can polish a turd, but you're still being served a lump of shit.

[Oblivion]

Bill Maher's threatening Christie O'donnell to appear on his show otherwise he'll be showing a new clip of her on Politically Incorrect each week.

[Phoenix Dark]

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holy fuck 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

She has the cutest little ghetto gap

[Fresh Prince]

satanic date sounds hot

[Phoenix Dark]

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we need a :leeatwater emote. Or I guess :jaydubya

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

"Those damn distinguished black fellows are making the post office system inefficient!"

[Dickie Dee]

ITT: Jaydubya rails against the Post Office

[Fresh Prince]

ITT: Jaydubya rails against the Post Office

ITT: Poster rails against Jayduya

[Fresh Prince]

ITT: Jaydubya rails against the Post Office

ITT: Poster rails against Jayduya

ITT: Fresh Prince rails against obvious joke

[Boogie]

Woah, what are you guys even talking about?  It's been a whole page since then.

 

Okay, points for that.

[Human Snorenado]

I'll be honest... that was funny.

[AdmiralViscen]

I lol'd

[Mandark]

So the Senate GOP is filibustering the repeal of DADT.  Nobody broke rants.

I'd like to point out that Collins, Snowe, Brown, McCain, Lugar, Voinovich et al voted the same way on this, and have largely been voting the same way on major issues, as Coburn, Kyl, DeMint, and Inhofe.

[The Fake Shemp]

"Pledge to America" is unveiled tomorrow, which I hope is anchored by a heartfelt promise to send the homosexuals into labor camps, where they can work the gay away!

[Mandark]

"Pledge to America" is unveiled tomorrow, which I hope is anchored by a heartfelt promise to send the homosexuals into labor camps, where they can work the gay away!

I was all 

So I looked it up.

Then I was all 

[The Fake Shemp]

Republicans! Yay!

[Mandark]

-- A repeal of the health-care law signed by President Obama this year.

-- A spending freeze for most domestic programs, exempting some programs for seniors, such as Social Security, and others that affect veterans and the military.

-- Keeping in place for all Americans, including the wealthy, tax cuts passed under President George W. Bush in 2001 and 2003. President Obama has proposed getting rid of tax cuts for household income above $250,000.

-- A ban on any federal funding for abortions.

-- A hiring freeze on all federal agencies except those charged with keeping Americans safe. (Agencies could hire employees only to replace people who leave.)

-- A requirement that Congress post all bills online three days before a vote and that lawmakers cite the specific constitutional authority that enables the legislation.

-- A ban on any efforts to hold trials on U.S. soil for detainees currently held at Guantanamo Bay.

-- A stop on all unspent money authorized as part of last year's stimulus bill or the 2008 legislation that aided failing Wall Street firms.

-- A tax deduction for small businesses on up to 20 percent of their business income.

Man, there's nothing I can say about this shit that we don't already know, or that would convince anyone who's on that bandwagon, but shit man.  I mean, c'mon.

[Phoenix Dark]

-- A requirement that Congress post all bills online three days before a vote and that lawmakers cite the specific constitutional authority that enables the legislation.

Obama should have Reid/Pelosi introduce legislation tomorrow that rules all bills must be posted online three days before they're voted on. I want to see what happens.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Sounds like total shit, even for GOP standards.

[Brehvolution]

Pledge to Keep America Shitty

At least repubs keep proving to be the party of no ideas. Time after time.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

super cool platform bro

[Howard Alan Treesong]

-- A spending freeze for most domestic programs, exempting some programs for seniors, such as Social Security, and others that affect veterans and the military.

Cool, so that should save us a lot of



...oh.

[Van Cruncheon]

or the 100% going to the filthy druggie poorbrowns who hate american jesus and love islamoterror?

[Howard Alan Treesong]

-- A spending freeze for most domestic programs, exempting some programs for seniors, such as Social Security, and others that affect veterans and the military.

Cool, so that should save us a lot of

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...oh.

Where's the 40% of our budget going to foreign aid Or the 20% going to gay arts programs

I know you were joking, but:



Foreign Aid is Department of State: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/factsheet_department_state/. About $56 billion, or 1.6% of the total $3.6 trillion budget.

NEA for 2010 was $155 million, which is too small to realistically track.

[Van Cruncheon]

typical college intellectual propaganda. here are the real, founding father-denying annual federal spend percentages:



WHERE IS THE MONEY TO BUY EVERY IMAGE OF THE BABBY JESUS A TRICORN HAT I ASK

WHY DOES AMERICA HATE AMERICA

[Brehvolution]

Did you make that?

Care if I repost on another forum?

[Dickie Dee]

"Jewish Conspiracies that don't involve Armageddon"

[Van Cruncheon]

i made it, you are welcome to it

[Boogie]

typical college intellectual propaganda. here are the real, founding father-denying annual federal spend percentages:

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WHERE IS THE MONEY TO BUY EVERY IMAGE OF THE BABBY JESUS A TRICORN HAT I ASK

WHY DOES AMERICA HATE AMERICA

 

[Van Cruncheon]

well, i for one am appalled that the country has been allowed to go to shit after those idyllic days of the late 1700s

appalled i tell you

and really, could someone do something about those hessians

i think they're making anchor babies

[Oblivion]

Mandark posted a small poll done at a tea party gathering a while back where some people thought foreign aid was seriously 40%.  Anyone have a link so we can have a laugh?

Might not be the same one, but the Economist did a general poll and produced similar results.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_04/023255.php

[Phoenix Dark]

No vote for tax cuts confirmed, a win-win issue that fell out the fucking sky like manna for democrats. No movement on DADT. Fuck the democratic party

What a shame that our choice boils down to either a vote for a fully corrupt party, or a half corrupt yet fully incompetent party.

someone spirit rez Teddy Roosevelt, I can't take this shit no more

[Oblivion]

typical college intellectual propaganda. here are the real, founding father-denying annual federal spend percentages:

(Image removed from quote.)

WHERE IS THE MONEY TO BUY EVERY IMAGE OF THE BABBY JESUS A TRICORN HAT I ASK

WHY DOES AMERICA HATE AMERICA

I'm assuming funding for illegals falls under money for brownpoors?

[Mandark]

The entirety of your moral, political, and economic philosophies is based upon intangibles that you choose to define based on your own subjective values but lord over others as though they're objective truths.

JayDubya dinner for one'd.