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Title: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 02:43:43 PM
It's disturbing and makes me want to chuckle... slightly.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2007, 02:46:17 PM
I knew it.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: bud on June 28, 2007, 02:47:06 PM
bt already said this in the other thread!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 02:47:58 PM
THAT THREAD DIED TO ME A LONG TIME AGO SO SHUT YER FACE OR DADDY WILL PUT U IN A CHOKEHOLD
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 28, 2007, 02:48:17 PM
k  some one fill me in on this wrestling shit I've been avoiding it.  is this just a publicity stunt or are they really dead?  what happened?  how many have died? 
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 02:49:28 PM
he was breaking kayfabe.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 02:50:03 PM
k  some one fill me in on this wrestling shit I've been avoiding it.  is this just a publicity stunt or are they really dead?  what happened?  how many have died? 

WWE wrastler Chris Benoit murdered his wife on a Friday, maybe early Saturday, then killed his son in a chokehold late Saturday and then committed suicide on Sunday.  He put bibles by their feet.  FOR REAL.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 28, 2007, 02:51:15 PM
k  some one fill me in on this wrestling shit I've been avoiding it.  is this just a publicity stunt or are they really dead?  what happened?  how many have died? 

WWE wrastler Chris Benoit murdered his wife on a Friday, maybe early Saturday, then killed his son in a chokehold late Saturday and then committed suicide on Sunday.  He put bibles by their feet.  FOR REAL.
wow, thanks.
didn't some one die before that in a car bomb too?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 02:51:57 PM
Vince McMahon faked his death for a WWE stunt, but he's obviously alive, as he was on TODAY this morning about Benoit's double homocide-suicide.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: bud on June 28, 2007, 02:52:39 PM
k  some one fill me in on this wrestling shit I've been avoiding it.  is this just a publicity stunt or are they really dead?  what happened?  how many have died? 

WWE wrastler Chris Benoit murdered his wife on a Friday, maybe early Saturday, then killed his son in a chokehold late Saturday and then committed suicide on Sunday.  He put bibles by their feet.  FOR REAL.
wow, thanks.
didn't some one die before that in a car bomb too?

SOMEBODY HAPPENED TO BE THERE AND TOOK A PIC OF HIS LIMO WHICH WAS ON FIYAH
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Robo on June 28, 2007, 02:56:47 PM
(http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7597/bennynq7.jpg)

 :kylielaff :kylielaff :kylielaff
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 03:00:18 PM
Okay, that one is just tasteless!

Drinky's was the best one ever:

(http://i11.tinypic.com/63tp06e.jpg)
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 28, 2007, 03:06:02 PM
with this news, i'm beginning to wonder if it wasn't intentional.

he could very well have been practicing his moves with his family, not realizing how far he was going.

is it possible that this was accidental?

if so, imagine how many people here are going to have to apologize for the hateful things they said about this man?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 03:06:49 PM
he could very well have been practicing his moves with his family, not realizing how far he was going

:lol

You should post that on GAF, asap!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 28, 2007, 03:07:02 PM
Okay, that one is just tasteless!

Drinky's was the best one ever:

(http://i11.tinypic.com/63tp06e.jpg)

this was mine actually
drinky just took the heat!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 03:08:17 PM
O RLY

He said you just assisted, basically like you cropped his head or something.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 28, 2007, 03:10:11 PM
Sort of a photoshop request, but:

(http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/beckham_1.jpg)

Is just BEGGING for a BENOIT photoshop.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: bud on June 28, 2007, 03:10:24 PM
so people are arguing about who made a tasteless photoshop.

ONLY ON EB
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 03:12:27 PM
CHOKE IT LIKE BENOIT

Damn, if I only had more time - I have to go to work soon!  Great request, Frag!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Mandark on June 28, 2007, 03:12:51 PM
Kid should have reached for the ropes.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: bud on June 28, 2007, 03:13:40 PM
CHOKE IT LIKE BENOIT

Damn, if I only had more time - I have to go to work soon!  Great request, Frag!

i feel so bad for laughing at this :lol
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Robo on June 28, 2007, 03:15:10 PM
Kid should have reached for the ropes.

:rofl
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: DJ_Tet on June 28, 2007, 03:21:06 PM
Do you think he taunted his son and reminded him how weak he was as he 'choked him out?'

spoiler (click to show/hide)
This is sick, to think he shot his 7 year old up with HGH on top of all this...wrestling has a problem as apparently this was one of their 'good guys' who snapped.
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Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Shuri on June 28, 2007, 03:22:29 PM
I dont understand why people watch wrestling as adults. i can understand when you are a kid or in the early years of being a teenager but..

Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 03:27:21 PM
I dont understand why people watch wrestling as adults. i can understand when you are a kid or in the early years of being a teenager but..



you are bringing up the maturity of wrestling fans in a thread full of tasteless photoshops involving the death of a 7 year old kid. I don't know why, but that's funny to me.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 03:30:48 PM
Death is only a tragedy to people without a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 03:34:33 PM
Death is only a tragedy to people without a sense of humor.

So if CG died in a car accident or something, it would be all shits and giggles for you.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 03:36:52 PM
I don't understand why shuri is such a cunt.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on June 28, 2007, 04:20:03 PM
So if CG died in a car accident or something, it would be all shits and giggles for you.

Depends on the type of accident.  Are we talking Dale Earnhardt-type accident or what?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 04:28:04 PM
So if CG died in a car accident or something, it would be all shits and giggles for you.


You're comparing the death of a wrestler who murdered his family with the hypothetical death of Willco's GF? Stay classy.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 04:30:52 PM
So if CG died in a car accident or something, it would be all shits and giggles for you.


You're comparing the death of a wrestler who murdered his family with the hypothetical death of Willco's GF? Stay classy.

try reading again you fucking twat. here is exactly what I said:

"you are bringing up the maturity of wrestling fans in a thread full of tasteless photoshops involving the death of a 7 year old kid."

you think i give a shit about a wrestler?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 04:33:11 PM
don't fucking defend that fat ugly fuck just because he is the mod here. fuck that. he's the one who said death is funny to him. I'm just calling his greasy ass out.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 04:48:34 PM
try reading again you fucking twat.

oooh I like this guy  :lol

here is exactly what I said:

"you are bringing up the maturity of wrestling fans in a thread full of tasteless photoshops involving the death of a 7 year old kid."

if the kid didn't know enough to tap out, he got what he deserved. tough world out there you know?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
okay that's tasteless but i really don't have the empathy to go out to EVERY poor soul out there
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you think i give a shit about a wrestler?

Honestly? I thought you kinda did.

don't fucking defend that fat ugly fuck just because he is the mod here. fuck that. he's the one who said death is funny to him. I'm just calling his greasy ass out.

I'm not defending him because he's a mod, I'm defending him because you're a hysterical cunt. Bubububub think of the kids!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 04:52:31 PM
Yeah, I'm not gonna argue about this anymore because it's apparent everybody here is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 04:55:23 PM
Cry me a river dude. You're so hurt about it? Go volunteer at the local womens' shelter or something, instead of acting superior to a bunch of people you don't know.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 04:55:49 PM
Cry me a river dude. You're so hurt about it? Go volunteer at the local womens' shelter or something, instead of acting superior to a bunch of people you don't know.

shutup distinguished mentally-challenged fellow
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 04:59:14 PM
you shutup dickbreath before i put you in a half nelson
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 05:00:09 PM
you shutup dickbreath before i put you in a half nelson

go suck off willco, taco shit
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ecrofirt on June 28, 2007, 05:00:44 PM
Yeah, I'm not gonna argue about this anymore because it's apparent everybody here is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
Ban this filth.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 05:01:50 PM
go suck off willco, taco shit


hey, at least i ain't the one trying to fellate a dead kid.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2007, 05:03:57 PM
Kid should have reached for the ropes.

:rofl
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 05:06:03 PM
Yeah, I'm not gonna argue about this anymore because it's apparent everybody here is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
Ban this filth.

what's wrong, can't take it, you little pussy?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ecrofirt on June 28, 2007, 05:07:22 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2007, 05:09:34 PM
BLACK MAGE COOL IT. I LOVE YOU.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Sceneman on June 28, 2007, 05:09:55 PM
Sort of a photoshop request, but:

(http://wirelessdigest.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/beckham_1.jpg)

Is just BEGGING for a BENOIT photoshop.

I popped a boner over this shit
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 05:10:08 PM
Black Mage in the hour of chaos
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 28, 2007, 05:12:28 PM
When did Black mage get all angry again?  I demand to know who pissed in his corn flakes!? 
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: BlackMage on June 28, 2007, 05:18:57 PM
::)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y96/stinkyfishtaco/uppercutgodzilla3en.gif)
right in your fucking troll-bearded chin
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Saint Cornelius on June 28, 2007, 05:22:20 PM
Oh! Godzirra smoking tlees!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Yeti on June 28, 2007, 05:23:54 PM
(http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/evilbore/chokemonvortex.jpg)
I made this one guys.  :-*
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 10:22:11 PM
I would laugh if a 7-year-old kid wasn't dead. :/
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 28, 2007, 10:26:22 PM
i'd laugh anyway!

q: what's 4 feet long, purple, and makes pro wrestling fans scream?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
a: chris benoit's kid in a crossface choker
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spoiler (click to show/hide)
:shh i'll be here all week
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Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 10:27:08 PM
 :-\

I'm not bitching like BlackMage was, but I just really can't find anything funny in the death of a child, even if he was killed by his funny-looking roided up wrestler dad.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 28, 2007, 10:27:55 PM
:hyper

i could make some distinguished mentally-challenged fellow jokes too, mister internet sanctimony
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: DJ_Tet on June 28, 2007, 10:32:17 PM
but I just really can't find anything funny in the death of a child


 :-*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What if it was the murder of a child?  Is it funny then?
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 :-*
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2007, 10:34:20 PM
I don't get much pleasure from the deaths of children.  But I get some.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 28, 2007, 10:38:32 PM
i'm sad when children die because they fetch a lot more money alive
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 10:39:11 PM
:hyper

i could make some distinguished mentally-challenged fellow jokes too, mister internet sanctimony

Benoit's son actually was distinguished mentally-challenged.  And I wasn't trying to be sanctimonious.  I'll keep my nose out of this thread and let you folks have your fun.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 28, 2007, 10:40:42 PM
was he? i heard the kid was underweight and that benoit was roidin' him up out of vicarious masculine shame, but i didn't know he was distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 28, 2007, 10:41:59 PM
was he? i heard the kid was underweight and that benoit was roidin' him up out of vicarious masculine shame, but i didn't know he was distinguished mentally-challenged.

He had something called Fragile X Syndrome.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: DJ_Tet on June 28, 2007, 10:42:14 PM
but i didn't know he was distinguished mentally-challenged.

Well, his dad was a wrestler, I'm sure you could have made an educated guess..


spoiler (click to show/hide)
or are we not making horrible jokes anymore?  I can never tell  :-*
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Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 10:43:30 PM
was he? i heard the kid was underweight and that benoit was roidin' him up out of vicarious masculine shame, but i didn't know he was distinguished mentally-challenged.

From Wiki:

Quote
Son's Fragile X syndrome
Benoit's son had Fragile X syndrome, a condition with effects including autism, which has led one source familiar with Benoit to hypothesize that after he killed his wife, he killed his son for fear that his special educational needs wouldn't be met.[101]

ABCNews.com reported that the couple argued over whether he should stay home more to take care of their son. "I think it's fair to say that the subject of caring for that child was part of what made their relationship complicated and difficult, and it's something they were both constantly struggling with," said Jerry McDevitt, an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment. "We do know it was a source of stress and consternation."[102]

District Attroney Scott Ballard stated the Daniel had old needle marks in his arms. Ballard said he had been told the parents considered him undersized and had given him growth hormones. "The boy was very small, even dwarfed," he said. [103]


Regarding Fragile X:

Quote
While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: littlemathletics on June 28, 2007, 10:57:47 PM
Quote
While full mutation males tend to present with severe intellectual disability, the symptomology of full mutation females runs the gamut of minimally affected to severe intellectual disability, which may explain why females are underdiagnosed relative to males.

His son was a mutant as well?
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 10:59:51 PM
If looking like this makes you a mutant, yes:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Fragile_x_syndrom.png/504px-Fragile_x_syndrom.png)
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: littlemathletics on June 28, 2007, 11:02:58 PM
MUTIE

Should have used his powers to escape to a pocket dimension.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: TVC15 on June 28, 2007, 11:04:49 PM
I wonder if Ruzbeh's dad ever considered doing the same thing.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Ichirou on June 28, 2007, 11:07:47 PM
Also, about Fragile X:

Quote
Aside from intellectual disability (mental distinguished mentally-challenged), prominent characteristics of the syndrome include an elongated face, large or protruding ears, flat feet, larger testicles in men (macroorchidism), and low muscle tone. Behavioral characteristics may include stereotypic movements (e.g., hand-flapping) and atypical social development, particularly shyness and limited eye contact. Some individuals with the fragile X syndrome also meet the diagnostic criteria for autism.

Looks like we found what Saint Cornelius is suffering from.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Himu on June 28, 2007, 11:12:42 PM
:rofl @ this thread

Drinky and TVC in full form
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Yeti on June 28, 2007, 11:27:19 PM
For me, it is more about the absurdity of people (like a lot of gaffers), who are trying to excuse the murders he committed because they liked him as a wrestler. This is just so outside of the realm of logic to me that it makes me laugh at the whole situation.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: ToxicAdam on June 29, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
Besides the obvious that westerners are star fuckers, the hero worship for Benoit is for a few reasons.

1) He's Canadian.

Those Canucks love Hockey and Wrestling. They worship anyone born in their country that can do either of these things very well.

2) He's short, uncharismatic and not very athletic.

Your average joe relates to him, because he represents them. They could excell like Benoit too, if they only could get off their asses and try.

3) He maintained a level of excellence for over a decade.

I won't bore you with what makes a pro wrestler "good". But, the level of effort and excellence that Benoit was able to maintain for most of his career is unheard of. Most pro wrestlers burn out from injuries when they try this .... or they get fat and lazy once they "make it". He did neither.


But really, #3 is the real reason. The guy was kind of like the Michael Jordan or Cal Ripkin of pro wrestling to fans that consider themselves "smart" (a loaded term for sure). Which is a term for someone that understands pro wrestling in a deeper manner than your casual fan.

Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Christopher on June 29, 2007, 12:13:18 AM
:( sad indeed.

Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Fragamemnon on June 29, 2007, 02:45:47 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/28/wrestler.ap/index.html?eref=rss_us

wtf. His entry in Wikipedia was updated mentioning his wife's death hours before the authorities found the body of the wife. Furthermore, the alterations came from Stamford, Connecticut, where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

Bizzare.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: TVC15 on June 29, 2007, 02:47:20 AM
Also, ToxicAdam, he is now THE WHITE OJ
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 29, 2007, 03:03:08 AM
Also, ToxicAdam, he is now THE WHITE OJ

In honor of Benoit's vanilla-white OJ-ness I propose we henceforth refer to him as "the Creamsicle."
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: demi on June 29, 2007, 03:04:02 AM
The Frosty Float :drool
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: bork on June 29, 2007, 03:50:34 AM
Jesus, dcharlie, no, it's not an angle.  The fact that Vince McMahon himself appeared on TV, ending the major storyline they had going on for weeks, confirmed that before all the details about the murder/suicide came out proves it.

By the way, this is this was the second wrestling-related death to occur since that dumb McMahon got blowed up angle started.  Sherri Martell died too, from a drug overdose. 
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Cormacaroni on June 29, 2007, 09:14:44 AM
Jesus, dcharlie, no, it's not an angle.  The fact that Vince McMahon himself appeared on TV, ending the major storyline they had going on for weeks, confirmed that before all the details about the murder/suicide came out proves it.

By the way, this is this was the second wrestling-related death to occur since that dumb McMahon got blowed up angle started.  Sherri Martell died too, from a drug overdose. 

So a tv statement from an oily impresario who FAKED HIS OWN DEATH means we should take all of this at face value? OK
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Candyflip on June 29, 2007, 09:15:47 AM
For me, it is more about the absurdity of people (like a lot of gaffers), who are trying to excuse the murders he committed because they liked him as a wrestler. This is just so outside of the realm of logic to me that it makes me laugh at the whole situation.
Jesus. Would you mind pointing me towards some of these posts?

Also, some of you disgust me.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Yeti on June 29, 2007, 11:51:45 AM
Read through the newest thread in the hall of fame, it had me laughing through pretty much the whole thread, and there are links in it to the gaf posts in qestion.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Boogie on June 29, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
For me, it is more about the absurdity of people (like a lot of gaffers), who are trying to excuse the murders he committed because they liked him as a wrestler. This is just so outside of the realm of logic to me that it makes me laugh at the whole situation.
Jesus. Would you mind pointing me towards some of these posts?

Also, some of you disgust me.

Well, we have 3kuSaS, who says "He was a great man, to everyone who knew him. Good people sometimes do reprehensible things. That's that."

Which is hilarious, when you have news pieces such as this one:

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2007/06/29/4299619-sun.html

in which Bruce Hart, a man who knew Benoit for years, calls him a "delusional juice freak" and says that "I was not at all shocked (by what happened)."

But that doesn't stop all the delusional wrestling fans from saying how out of character this was for Benoit, and how no one saw this coming.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: DJ_Tet on June 29, 2007, 12:09:30 PM
The fact that the Great Sasuke is a gaf poster is so much more shocking than Benoit killing his wife and child.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 29, 2007, 12:31:38 PM
after all the Vince 'death' backlash, i wonder if this is all part of some elabourate story arch?

Vince 'death' being obviously faked, then coming out of character in order to talk about a 'real' death...

and at the end of next years world championship, mystery wrestler enters to KORN's latest single, fire, brimstone everywhere,

"SENT FROM HELL TO CLAIM THE PRIZE! IN THE FIRE RED CORNER..... "

Fans go crazy! Benoit vindicated - hero total, Fragile Xbox syndrome then has to be acknowledged by MS, everyone gets thier Xbox fixed for free...

it's a win-win-WIN situation.

i, too, have considered the possibility that this is staged.

i wouldn't be surprised if it was revealed, a couple weeks later, that this is fake.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 29, 2007, 12:32:48 PM
For me, it is more about the absurdity of people (like a lot of gaffers), who are trying to excuse the murders he committed because they liked him as a wrestler. This is just so outside of the realm of logic to me that it makes me laugh at the whole situation.
Jesus. Would you mind pointing me towards some of these posts?

Also, some of you disgust me.

Well, we have 3kuSaS, who says "He was a great man, to everyone who knew him. Good people sometimes do reprehensible things. That's that."

Which is hilarious, when you have news pieces such as this one:

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/National/2007/06/29/4299619-sun.html

in which Bruce Hart, a man who knew Benoit for years, calls him a "delusional juice freak" and says that "I was not at all shocked (by what happened)."

But that doesn't stop all the delusional wrestling fans from saying how out of character this was for Benoit, and how no one saw this coming.


good people, those who're generally amiable and of a noble disposition, aren't given to an occasional bout of abhorrence?

Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2007, 12:55:00 PM
abhorrence = a double murder + suicide? yeah, i'd say that pretty much most good people aren't. don't be disingenuous for the sake of contrarianism, futami. sometimes your loathed groupthink has the right of it. deal!
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2007, 01:40:09 PM
Boogie: Not to apologize for those defending Benoit, but I understand how they got the impression of him as a "good guy" before this.

When I was following it (up until about five years ago), most wrasslin fans on the net got their news from three sites run by guys (Dave Meltzer, Dave Scherer, Bob Keller) who had some contacts within the companies.

It was pretty heavy on backstage gossip type stuff, and certain names would crop up more than others.  Lots of self-destructive behavior, especially drugs (Davey Boy Smith, Eddie Guerrero, Juvi, Scott Hall, etc.) and guys with problems controlling their aggression (Scott Steiner, Goldberg, Scott Steiner, Sid Vicious, Scott Steiner).

For whatever reasons, incidents with Benoit didn't really show up in the gossip rags, at least from 98-02, so anyone taking them for credible sources would have gotten that impression.

Obviously, some people would much rather construct a Good Guy Who Snapped narrative than recognize that they built up a false image of someone they had never met based on third-hand information.  Cognitive dissonance yadda yadda.

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Seriously though, how was the first major wrestler to a double-homicide NOT Scott Steiner?  If we had done a pool on that, I'd be out some serious cash.
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Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 29, 2007, 01:48:15 PM
abhorrence = a double murder + suicide? yeah, i'd say that pretty much most good people aren't. don't be disingenuous for the sake of contrarianism, futami. sometimes your loathed groupthink has the right of it. deal!

EVERY HUMAN BEING has the capacity to put aside ALL moral qualms and commit the acts he stands accused of.

that's what makes us human, professor, and it's a bit annoying when you sit there and act as if you're above that.

if you come home and find your wilf getting plowed by someone else, you don't think you'll feel the slightest bit of rage?

you don't think the sight of the love of your life having sex with another man will send you reeling into instability?

that's what happens.


Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Mandark on June 29, 2007, 01:54:26 PM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 29, 2007, 02:12:45 PM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.

Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Bloodwake on June 29, 2007, 10:43:08 PM
Yeah, really, didn't see that one coming, I was totally all over Steiner killing people first.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Candyflip on June 29, 2007, 10:58:24 PM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.


Regardless of all the bullshit you're spewing, that doesn't change the fact that he killed his wife and son in cold blood. That is much more than an "occasional act of abhorrence" and is inexcusable. I can't believe you're trying to defend his actions.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 29, 2007, 11:04:03 PM
i think futami is trying to say we should be more holistically sympathetic because "there but for the grace of gawd go i" but unlike him there's a really REALLY big gulf between me thinking "grr, wife and kid are pissin' me orf" and fatally putting them in my signature wrestling hold

as a result i think "what a failure of a human being, i hope his sad demise serves as a lesson to idiots for whom the line between anger and violence is so thinly painted"
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 29, 2007, 11:37:47 PM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.


Regardless of all the bullshit you're spewing, that doesn't change the fact that he killed his wife and son in cold blood. That is much more than an "occasional act of abhorrence" and is inexcusable. I can't believe you're trying to defend his actions.

my commentary on his actions aren't so much rationalization, or defense, as they are an attempt to shed light on the human condition.

we've all found ourselves the prey of impulse, victims of perfunctory responses to emotions that we're unable to process upon our initial receipt of them.

whether it's kicking your dog after it eats a dinner you just slaved over the preparation of, or taking a beer bottle and throwing it at a motorist who doesn't understand that turn signals are available for a reason.

what he DID is indefensible, but why he did it has many explanations that are legitimate and understandable.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 30, 2007, 12:22:43 AM
understandable doesn't equate to excusable, just as acknowledgment doesn't equate to empathy
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Cyanista on June 30, 2007, 12:39:05 AM
There's a reason to kick an old man down a flight of steps...just don't do it.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Yeti on June 30, 2007, 05:28:39 AM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.

My dog often saves food for later if she is not hungry, especially breakfast.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: xnikki118x on June 30, 2007, 05:35:19 AM
My dog often saves food for later if she is not hungry, especially breakfast.

I was just going to comment on that. We free-feed both of our cats, and they obviously save food for later since they eat throughout the day.

Our old dog used to hide his treats around the house and then he'd find them and eat them later. He'd eat the small treats when they were given to him, but anything he couldn't eat in 3 bites or so was hidden behind a radiator or between couch cushions or under a rug. He'd also bury them in the backyard if you let him outside. He ended up earing most of what he hid, but we did find a few treats in the house after we had him put to sleep. Sad. :/
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Candyflip on June 30, 2007, 11:45:36 AM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.


Regardless of all the bullshit you're spewing, that doesn't change the fact that he killed his wife and son in cold blood. That is much more than an "occasional act of abhorrence" and is inexcusable. I can't believe you're trying to defend his actions.

my commentary on his actions aren't so much rationalization, or defense, as they are an attempt to shed light on the human condition.

we've all found ourselves the prey of impulse, victims of perfunctory responses to emotions that we're unable to process upon our initial receipt of them.

whether it's kicking your dog after it eats a dinner you just slaved over the preparation of, or taking a beer bottle and throwing it at a motorist who doesn't understand that turn signals are available for a reason.

what he DID is indefensible, but why he did it has many explanations that are legitimate and understandable.
Really? Because I honestly cannot understand what would push a man to murder his family. But whatever.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: futami on June 30, 2007, 01:16:25 PM
I thought rationality and a high level of socialization make us human, at least in the "separates us from other animals" sense.

BTW, is it true that the WARRIOR is going to be on Hannity & Colmes tonight?  I've heard it in a couple places, but no signs on the actual H&C page.  Please let it be true.

animals act on instict.

they operate from set rules.

humans, conversely, have free will, an ability to act according to a dynamic set of emotions.

that's what separates us from the animal.

if you put a piece of food in front of a dog, it will eat it.

it won't discrminate.

it won't say: "hey, i'll eat this later. but thanks, man"

it will eat anything you put before it, until it becomes sick.


Regardless of all the bullshit you're spewing, that doesn't change the fact that he killed his wife and son in cold blood. That is much more than an "occasional act of abhorrence" and is inexcusable. I can't believe you're trying to defend his actions.

my commentary on his actions aren't so much rationalization, or defense, as they are an attempt to shed light on the human condition.

we've all found ourselves the prey of impulse, victims of perfunctory responses to emotions that we're unable to process upon our initial receipt of them.

whether it's kicking your dog after it eats a dinner you just slaved over the preparation of, or taking a beer bottle and throwing it at a motorist who doesn't understand that turn signals are available for a reason.

what he DID is indefensible, but why he did it has many explanations that are legitimate and understandable.
Really? Because I honestly cannot understand what would push a man to murder his family. But whatever.

oh, neither can i.

i'm just saying that who are WE to condemn the man for his actions?

humanity is far too complex a condition to level these facile judgments against benoit.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: MrAngryFace on June 30, 2007, 01:19:45 PM
blah blah we're all animals.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: border on July 01, 2007, 03:24:00 PM
Ruthless Aggression :lol :lol

(http://i3.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/a7/35/a67a_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 01, 2007, 03:30:25 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on July 01, 2007, 03:33:19 PM
I CALLED IT! FUTURE LIFETIME MADE FOR TV MOVIE! (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2922166&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1) $5 it'll be called "Wrestling with Shadows"
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Yeti on July 01, 2007, 06:20:04 PM
I CALLED IT! FUTURE LIFETIME MADE FOR TV MOVIE! (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2922166&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1) $5 it'll be called "Wrestling with Shadows"

The pictures on that page are hilarious  :lol

(http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/evilbore/benoit1.jpg)
Leaving action figures outside of Benoit's house!  :lol

(http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~ms322801/evilbore/benoit2.jpg)
Which gaffer with his mother is this? A nintendo t-shirt and a Beatles t-shirt  :lol
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Shuri on July 01, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
she has a big rack. hmm, i'd hit it.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: Himu on July 01, 2007, 10:24:35 PM
Good God. Fuck Chris Benoit.
Title: Re: Benoit Watch - DAY FOUR: Son died in a chokehold
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on July 01, 2007, 10:35:44 PM
So if CG died in a car accident or something, it would be all shits and giggles for you.
Depends on the type of accident.  Are we talking Dale Earnhardt-type accident or what?
I, uh, actually have a link to footage of that wreck on Youtube. It's bumping around somewhere.