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Title: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2007, 01:32:30 PM
Step 1. (http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/11/17/MNGB633LED1.DTL)

Step 2. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect)

Step 3. (http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showpost.php?p=193668&postcount=1)
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: bud on July 03, 2007, 01:34:05 PM
 :lol :lol :lol

gary whitta is a gaffer lol.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 03, 2007, 01:34:13 PM
:lol choggle pants
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 01:34:53 PM
Except you fail because I dont think I know more than other people and I do not have any racial prejudices.

In fact my greatest concern is that I don't read enough about philosphy.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 03, 2007, 01:37:59 PM
Except you fail because I dont think I know more than other people and I do have any racial prejudices.

In fact my greatest concern is that I don't read enough about philosphy.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: bud on July 03, 2007, 01:39:00 PM
Except you fail because I dont think I know more than other people and I do have any racial prejudices.

In fact my greatest concern is that I don't read enough about philosphy.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/galeninjapan/bill2.jpg)
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
Except you fail because I dont think I know more than other people and I do have any racial prejudices.

In fact my greatest concern is that I don't read enough about philosphy.

Notice that he denies (or attempts to deny) only the first two steps.

Hmmmmmm...
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 01:39:52 PM
Yes, I walk around with shit in pants.  ::)
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: demi on July 03, 2007, 01:40:21 PM
post pics of your girlfriend's vagina
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 01:42:02 PM
Do you wipe your shitty underpants all over your feet before you chew on your toenails?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: MrAngryFace on July 03, 2007, 01:43:32 PM
he tops the poopy underpants with the puss from his girlfriends pimples before rubbing them on his feet to chew his toenails
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 01:50:44 PM
the dunning-kruger effect explains conservative confidence rather adequately. ah, the moral clarity of the ignorant.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 01:55:52 PM
I'm not conservative or claim to have any more knowledge than other people.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 01:56:55 PM
a. did i say you were conservative?

b. did i accuse you of pretending that you did?

LRN 2 READ.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 01:57:08 PM
You seem to pretend to know more than most people when you dictate that all Muslims are violent.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 01:57:23 PM
a. did i say you were conservative?

b. did i accuse you of pretending that you did?

LRN 2 READ.

You imply it in everything you post.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 01:58:19 PM
You seem to pretend to know more than most people when you dictate that all Muslims are violent.

Not all muslims. Just the religion itself is a problem, and PC-pandering has not kept it in check.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Flannel Boy on July 03, 2007, 02:00:12 PM
Rename this place Callanbore, you obsessive twits.  :maf

spoiler (click to show/hide)
though Mandark's post did make me  :lol
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Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:00:17 PM
You seem to pretend to know more than most people when you dictate that all Muslims are violent.

Not all muslims. Just the religion itself is a problem, and PC-pandering has not kept it in check.

So you admit to prejudice, then?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: bud on July 03, 2007, 02:00:41 PM
You seem to pretend to know more than most people when you dictate that all Muslims are violent.

Not all muslims. Just the religion itself is a problem, and PC-pandering has not kept it in check.

i no rite
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:00:48 PM
that's your insecurity talking, bucko. i read the thread, found it hilarious that there was a psychological phenomenon that accurately compassed the sort of ironclad shitheel stupidity that comes from the mouths of conservative thinkers, and remarked on it. welcome to the internet: where threads about you  -- yes, even you! -- get repurposed!

also, i need to imply nothing. i can call you stupid directly without all the extra typing necessary to circumscribe it.

foc, you are fucking stupid.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
should we judge all christians by radical lebanese christians like the Phlangists, then? they had no problem blowing up buses to kill Muslims and starting 10+ years worth of conflict!
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
all christians are terrorists.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:04:00 PM
should we judge all christians by radical lebanese christians like the Phlangists, then? they had no problem blowing up buses to kill Muslims and starting 10+ years worth of conflict!

Sure, tell me when they start blowing buildings, airports, world trade centers, rioting over a cartoon and causing riots in western countries over western traditions.

You see, I could care less waht the hell anyone does in their own country. But once they start crying the victom in America over those fucking cartoons. Thats when I changed my mind.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:06:22 PM
should we judge all christians by radical lebanese christians like the Phlangists, then? they had no problem blowing up buses to kill Muslims and starting 10+ years worth of conflict!

Sure, tell me when they start blowing buildings, airports, world trade centers, rioting over a cartoon and causing riots in western countries over western traditions.

You see, I could care less waht the hell anyone does in their own country. But once they start crying the victom in America over those fucking cartoons. Thats when I changed my mind.

So you "changed your mind" because you saw lots of negative things they did in the media, without even trying to look for positive things?  Sounds like you were just looking for a reason to publicly hate.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:08:08 PM
What positive thing?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:10:14 PM
What positive thing?

And there we are folks.  He's prejudiced, claims to know more about islam than he actually does ("what positive thing?"), and he likes to shit his underpants and wipe them on his feet before gnawing on his claws.  Mandark's hypothesis has survived this test.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:12:21 PM
Care to name positive things so I can change my mind? Or are you just gonna call me poopy pants.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:13:29 PM
poopy pants

And this is why you fail.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:13:58 PM
will do!

you might remember this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph

or this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Waagner

http://atheism.about.com/b/a/259043.htm

and this is in a modernized, wealthy first-world country NOT riven by hundreds of years of conflict! bobobobobobobobobobobo MUSLIMS ARE TEH TRRRISTS


Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:16:01 PM
Care to name positive things so I can change my mind? Or are you just gonna call me poopy pants.

We've roughly been over this before in the last thread this was brought up.  You were given a name or names, and it wouldn't take more than a googling or wiking to find larger scale contributions of the religion on society.  You have the most powerful information gathering tool that has ever existed in front of you.  It's not difficult to find what you are lookin' for.  Or not looking for, as it goes.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:16:57 PM
foc, even your bumfuck conservative UK convert acknowledged that it was RADICAL ELEMENTS that were driving the terrorism. most muslims -- and 99.99% of those in the US -- are very peaceful, or at least as much so as your average first-world cigarillo-hatin' abortion-obsessed christian.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:20:07 PM
Yes I understand the majority of theem are peacefull, but how come they dont speak out against the extreme ones? They let the extreme muslims control their image. And then when anyone tries to point that out they are called racist by uber-PC people like yall.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
foc, they don't! our MEDIA controls their image to western audiences, because tardwits like you love the MORAL CLARITY THAT COMES FROM ONE-SIDED IGNORANCE.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
Yes I understand the majority of theem are peacefull, but how come they dont speak out against the extreme ones? They let the extreme muslims control their image. And then when anyone tries to point that out they are called racist by uber-PC people like yall.

Because some of them do speak out about the violent ones?  Do you remember that thread a week or two ago when Drinky gave you a name (or names) to look up?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:24:20 PM
foc, do you go to the middle-east to speak out against christian violence when lebanese christians blow up a mosque in syria or execute a sunni cleric, or when armenian christians slaughter a secular school?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:26:38 PM
 One name is supposed to change their image. It's gonna take a lot of time before that happens.

Quote
foc, do you go to the middle-east to speak out against christian violence when lebanese christians blow up a mosque in syria or execute a sunni cleric?

Those people are terrorists too, but its hardly the same thing as blowing up shit in the Europe or America. Like I said before I really dont care what happens in the middle east. The place is a giant shithole.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:27:59 PM
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foc, do you go to the middle-east to speak out against christian violence when lebanese christians blow up a mosque in syria or execute a sunni cleric?

Those people are terrorists too, but its hardly the same thing as blowing up shit in the Europe or America. Like I said before I really dont care what happens in the middle east. The place is a giant shithole.

WHAT THE FUCK.

FoC:  "America and Europe are the whole world [that matters]."
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: bud on July 03, 2007, 02:29:57 PM
One name is supposed to change their image. It's gonna take a lot of time before that happens.

Quote
foc, do you go to the middle-east to speak out against christian violence when lebanese christians blow up a mosque in syria or execute a sunni cleric?

Those people are terrorists too, but its hardly the same thing as blowing up shit in the Europe or America. Like I said before I really dont care what happens in the middle east. The place is a giant shithole.

:rofl :rofl

i'm in tears over here
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:30:03 PM
Oh, Im sorry, The middle east is a giant beacon of light guiding the world into a new era of prosperity?

Most of it is run by monarchs who keep their citizens poor by controlling the nations resources.  Their are a few decent countries but the whole place is kept done by centuries of conflict.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:30:55 PM
Quote
foc, do you go to the middle-east to speak out against christian violence when lebanese christians blow up a mosque in syria or execute a sunni cleric?

Those people are terrorists too, but its hardly the same thing as blowing up shit in the Europe or America. Like I said before I really dont care what happens in the middle east. The place is a giant shithole.

WHAT THE FUCK.

FoC:  "America and Europe are the whole world [that matters]."

Not the whole world that matters. I ultimatly couldnt even care about Europe.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:31:02 PM
so basically, he grants america and "europe" some sort of special sanctity because they have tighter border control and less adjacent geography.

leper this filth.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: bud on July 03, 2007, 02:31:58 PM
so basically, he grants america and "europe" some sort of special sanctity because they have tighter border control and less adjacent geography.

leper this filth.

he doesn't care about europe either lol
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:32:26 PM
i actually consider texas as part of the third-world, at least intellectually.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:32:50 PM
I never said it was "a giant beacon of light guiding the world into a new era of prosperity."  You're absolutely delusional.  The people over there, regardless of religion, are not less than you.  The middle east is just as important a place as the US, from a humanistic point of view.  But you, hey, Christians can be terrorists over there and it's totally kosher!
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Tauntaun on July 03, 2007, 02:33:05 PM
 :lol you guys are so baiting him and foc falls for it EVERYTIME!!  :lol
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:33:40 PM
Is anything that is actually benefiting human kind actually going on in the middle east?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: TVC15 on July 03, 2007, 02:34:00 PM
Mandark, I didn't think this thread would end up being special, but youy have struck BUTT GOLD!

FoC, have you ever done anything that has been beneficial to humankind?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:36:34 PM
tvc, in foc's ignurnt binary worldview, if you are not against something, you are not only for it, you must be in love with it and will let its dire radical seed foment in your america-hating womb.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 02:38:06 PM
for foc: http://www.smj.org.sa/Contents.asp?DtStart=12/01/01&DtEnd=12/31/01&SUPPLIMENT=0

Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2007, 02:39:39 PM
Okay, so we've moved from "Muslims are violent" to "Well, they're not violent, but they're letting a violent minority control their image!"

I don't even know what that means.  Moderate/tolerant Muslims have hired jihadists to do their PR work?  Huh?



TVC: My favorite part of the Dunning-Kruger effect is that they measured it regarding humor as well.  I'm not sure how they did that, but it sure explains the Drawn Together love in this case, and Day by Day (http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/) more generally.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 02:41:39 PM
 :lol :lol

Oh come on, Drawn Together is great.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Mandark on July 03, 2007, 02:54:34 PM
Basically, FoC's argument goes like this:

1) Since a few Muslims have committed acts of very highly-publicized violence, all other Muslims are obligated to tell me that they condemn that sort of behavior.  If they don't, it is reasonable that I make blanket judgments about their religion.

2)  If a white person, American, or member of any group I'm part of does something bad, I don't have that same obligation.  If someone judges me based on that, they're ignorant and wrong.

3) I can't be arsed to actually look up anything myself.


Sounds fair enough.

The question is, what people need to constantly apologize for others in their religious or ethnic groups?  I mean, none of my Irish friends has denounced the IRA, but if I started giving them shit for being terrorist sympathizers, they might throw Baruch Goldstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein) back in my face.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: T-Short on July 03, 2007, 03:58:59 PM
wow @ thread
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 03, 2007, 04:32:26 PM
foc did a great job proving mandark's points, for sure: that a) racism stymies his already-limited capacity to think rationally; that b) his ignorance makes him cocksure in his clueless beliefs about muslim culture; and that c) he enjoys wearing pants filled with his girlfriend's shit.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Human Snorenado on July 03, 2007, 04:50:28 PM
i actually consider texas as part of the third-world, at least intellectually.

Don't forget Florida!
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Shuri on July 03, 2007, 06:18:47 PM
Then why have you been so obsessed with the internecine Palestinian battles? 
FYI, the word you were looking for was INTESTINE
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: demi on July 03, 2007, 06:36:04 PM
foc's girlfriend's vagina smells like shit
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Mupepe on July 03, 2007, 06:41:50 PM
foc's girlfriend's vagina smells like shit
she wipes back to front
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 03, 2007, 06:52:05 PM
Oh man @ FoC thinking terrorism in the Middle East should be regarded differently than over here. Now thats hilarious
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 06:58:58 PM
Oh man @ FoC thinking terrorism in the Middle East should be regarded differently than over here. Now thats hilarious

I dont know about regarded. I just dont care about what happnes too much over there.

I'm sure you all shed tears when a mosque or embessay gets blown up over there.
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Fresh Prince on July 03, 2007, 07:17:48 PM
Foc seems to think Islam is the monolithic institution that can be controlled by a single mufti or clerk. Also what's this shit about, 'Oh the majority should say they don't condone violence perpertrated by radicals'. Well ah FOC, they do through various Islamic Councils etc it's just that they're usually buried due to 1000 other things happening that day.

I don't know about regarded. I just don't care about what happens too much over there.
I'm sure you all shed tears when a mosque or embassy gets blown up over there.
Then why should overseas Muslims care about what happens in the USA and make the universal statement you want them to make then?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on July 03, 2007, 07:25:10 PM
Foc seems to think Islam is the monolithic institution that can be controlled by a single mufti or clerk. Also what's this shit about, 'Oh the majority should say they don't condone violence perpertrated by radicals'. Well ah FOC, they do through various Islamic Councils etc it's just that they're usually buried due to 1000 other things happening that day.
If thats true then I'm sorry, but so far All I have gotten was one name.
 
Then why should overseas Muslims care about what happens in the USA and make the universal statement you want them to make then?

Uh, what? Did I not just say how little I care about what happens there?
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: BlueTsunami on July 03, 2007, 07:31:42 PM
FoC is a glowing example of the lack of care for world affairs by heartland America

Let me raize ma caddle and sex ma sister. Whats that? Iran got nuked? Who cares, I'ma milk my cow tomorra
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: The Fake Shemp on July 03, 2007, 08:31:56 PM
I hearby declare FlameofCallandor's nickname to be CHOGGLE PANTS
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: The Sceneman on July 04, 2007, 12:50:17 AM
post pics of your girlfriend's vagina

that would be so cool :elephant
Title: Re: FoC explained in three easy steps
Post by: Yeti on July 04, 2007, 01:04:59 AM
This thread has been an interesting read. Thank you for the links you provided Mandark. Well, the first two at least.