THE BORE

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Title: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on August 29, 2007, 03:36:29 AM
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist06/assist06_070828d-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items/assist/images/assist06/assist06_070828e-l.jpg)

Or they're scraping the barrel for "retro" stuff for people to jizz over
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on August 29, 2007, 03:45:34 AM
it looks like it's going to be an item type shit.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on August 29, 2007, 04:13:08 AM
hitting wario looks kinda good. 
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Mondain on August 29, 2007, 04:23:21 AM
is this one of the SMB 2 "masks"?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Error2k4 on August 29, 2007, 04:23:56 AM
is this one of the SMB 2 "masks"?
didnt play Star Fox for the SNES?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: The Sceneman on August 29, 2007, 06:12:41 AM
its gonna be so sweet using a Nintendog as an item/weapon
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on August 29, 2007, 10:15:23 AM
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/pokemon_trainer.html#pokemon_change

Latest Update

The Pokémon Trainer commands three types of Pokémon. His down special move is a Pokémon Change, so each Pokémon has three special moves!

That’s nine in all. Amazing!


Squirtle Up Special Move: Waterfall

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829a-l.jpg)

Squirtle splashes up the water torrent.


Squirtle Side Special Move: Withdraw

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829b-l.jpg)

Is this the turtle’s so-called shell? It slides along the ground.


Ivysaur Standard Special Move: Bullet Seed

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829c-l.jpg)

It fires a rapid seed barrage straight up in the air!


Ivysaur Up Special Move: Vine Whip

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829d-l.jpg)

It can grab the edge with its whip! That was TOO close!


Charizard Standard Special Move: Flamethrower

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829e-l.jpg)

We just had to have this. It is Charizard, after all.


Charizard Side Special Move: Rock Smash

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/pokemon_trainer/pokemon_trainer_070829f-l.jpg)

It smashes rocks with its head. Bam! A solid hit from this delivers a mighty blow!!


Supplement your shortcomings and take advantage of your strengths. You must co-operate to push on!
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Gay Boy on August 29, 2007, 10:23:14 AM
Wait, Ash is a playable character now?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Fox In The Snow on August 29, 2007, 10:45:31 AM
 Game looks like their is a lot of fan service going around, can't wait to play it.

Edit: LOL, misread.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: abrader on August 29, 2007, 10:48:00 AM
that looks pretty cool I guess - love the fan service - still doesnt make me regret selling the Wii one bit....
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on August 29, 2007, 10:53:53 AM
Wait, Ash is a playable character now?
No, you play with the three Pokemon. That isn't Ash either. Just a random main character character from one of the Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2007, 11:01:17 AM
that is totally ash
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: GilloD on August 29, 2007, 01:02:28 PM
that is totally ash

The hair is different and GTAIV still doesn't have planes.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on August 29, 2007, 01:03:16 PM
Who cares about pokemon, Beezy? What the fuck, dude. I was hoping you wouldn't introduce the 10 year old audience.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: CajoleJuice on August 29, 2007, 01:32:33 PM
If SSBB doesn't have online (and possibly even if it does), I will buy a Wii for MP3 and SMG and then sell it.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on August 29, 2007, 01:42:49 PM
Who cares about pokemon, Beezy? What the fuck, dude. I was hoping you wouldn't introduce the 10 year old audience.
I was just posting the newest update, loser. >:(
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: bluemax on August 29, 2007, 02:12:45 PM
it looks like it's going to be an item type shit.

Wrong dumbass. Its a boss for the "story" mode.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Himu on August 29, 2007, 02:14:57 PM
that is totally ash

The hair is different and GTAIV still doesn't have planes.

i never really noticed ash's hair. i don't fap to pomymanz hentai. :(

yeah gta4 doesn't have planes and it's not coming out this year either

hold me gillod!  :'(
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2007, 02:48:17 PM
it looks like it's going to be an item type shit.

Wrong dumbass. Its a boss for the "story" mode.

It's an assist trophy, actually.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: etiolate on August 29, 2007, 05:12:51 PM
So wait do you control the pokemon trainer or the pokemon? If it's just the pokemon, then why have the trainer?  There's already pokemon playable characters.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: TakingBackSunday on August 29, 2007, 05:16:17 PM
So wait do you control the pokemon trainer or the pokemon? If it's just the pokemon, then why have the trainer?  There's already pokemon playable characters.

I think it's the point that you control all three of the starters (or their evolutions) so you play as the trainer who has the option to pick any three of them in the beginning of the Pokemon games.

I guess it's sort of pointless, but hey–three characters in one.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on September 07, 2007, 09:52:15 AM
With the "My Music" feature, you can enjoy the music of our many musicians any way you like. Choose freely from our diverse selection of famous songs!

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/images/music08/music08_070907a-l.jpg)

This is "My Music" in action!

The battle stages of Super Smash Bros. Brawl feature a diverse line-up of game worlds. For example, there are stages based on the Mario universe.

Basically, there is only one song that plays on each stage. But even among the myriad songs of the Mario universe, people probably have different favorites.

Plus, while there may be people who stepped into the Mario universe in the original Nintendo Entertainment System days, surely there are some who first experienced Mario on the Nintendo DS.
With that in mind, I think it’s a bit of a waste to limit that whole universe to just one song.

So we’ve prepared many songs and will let you choose the likelihood that any given song will be played.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/images/music08/music08_070907b-l.jpg)

This is "My Music" for Delfino Plaza.

For songs you’re particularly fond of, you can increase the likelihood those songs will appear. Then, when you brawl on that stage, the chance of your preferred songs being played increases.
Of course, if you want to, you can limit a stage to only one song, or make every song in the game equally likely to appear.

I’ve asked our reputable list of musicians to provide many songs for this particular game. But that’s certainly not because I just wanted to cover all these songs.

I’ve asked them to choose the songs that match their personalities and tastes!
Here you will find the best of the best—something you can very rarely get a chance to savor.
If your motivation behind your song selections is simply because you like them, then that’s just fine. Choose your settings as you like.

Just so you know, there may be songs from other games that are left as is, without any new arrangement.

Oh, and by the way, there’s an item in the game called a CD.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/images/music08/music08_070907c-l.jpg)

This is a CD.

Regardless of which mode you’re playing, if you see one of these, be absolutely sure to grab it. If you want to know why, it’s because CDs are the way you add to your music selection.

Such a cool feature needed its own thread


MP3 versions of today's music updates- SSBB Main Theme and Pokemon Stadium
http://www.savefile.com/files/1036341 (http://www.savefile.com/files/1036341)
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: tiesto on September 07, 2007, 10:21:34 AM
This is a fantastic update... I hope this doesn't mean they're gonna cut back on stages, though (like it'd be a shame if Delfino Plaza was the only Mario stage we see). And I hope they have some retro/chiptune stuff thrown in there.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Prost on September 07, 2007, 12:57:16 PM
game will be awesome.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 01:40:42 PM
we need to make a "posters over 13 only" rule so we won't have smash bros threads
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Prost on September 07, 2007, 01:45:10 PM
we need to make a "posters over 13 only" rule so we won't have smash bros threads
smash bros is one of the greatest fighting games ever.  usually the people that rag on it are the ones that get their ass kicked in it.


just sayin
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 01:49:55 PM
i get my ass kicked in bloody roar. that doesn't make it a great fighting game; it just means i suck at bloody roar.

however, disingenuous observations aside: THE GAME IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS. not for EVERYONE; IT IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS WHO LOVE SANITIZED CARTOON MASCOTS. if you play it, you are a pre-pubescent, or you have serious developmental issues.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 01:54:36 PM
billy nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :'(
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Prost on September 07, 2007, 01:57:37 PM
i get my ass kicked in bloody roar. that doesn't make it a great fighting game; it just means i suck at bloody roar.

however, disingenuous observations aside: THE GAME IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS. not for EVERYONE; IT IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS WHO LOVE SANITIZED CARTOON MASCOTS. if you play it, you are a pre-pubescent, or you have serious developmental issues.
the game is made for all ages.  for you to think otherwise after seeing the other 2 games released and played by people that are not kids then i guess this conversation is over.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 01:58:59 PM
the people i see playing it ARE children. some are large (usually very large) and have a cellular age of 30, but they are developmentally children. if i was interviewing you for a job and you mentioned you played smash brothers, i would escort you off the premises because you are a manchild.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 02:09:37 PM
I bought Melee, played it for a week, sold it.
I won't make the same mistake with Brawl.
And yes, Smash Bros has no redeeming qualities and if you like it you are a DEVELOPMENTALLY STUNTED NINTHING
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: tiesto on September 07, 2007, 02:43:08 PM
Who the hell would mention they play videogames on a job interview, unless it was for a game dev or Gamestop or something?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 04:02:11 PM
a common question is: what do you do with your free time? if you say shit like exercise and explore nature, i roll my eyes and ask no, what do you REALLY do with your free time
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on September 07, 2007, 04:04:39 PM
Would you accept "gawk at bears" as an answer?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 04:22:41 PM
absolutely, i consider unique, uh, interests a point of favor
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Oblivion on September 07, 2007, 04:39:27 PM
i get my ass kicked in bloody roar. that doesn't make it a great fighting game; it just means i suck at bloody roar.

however, disingenuous observations aside: THE GAME IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS. not for EVERYONE; IT IS MADE FOR LITTLE KIDS WHO LOVE SANITIZED CARTOON MASCOTS. if you play it, you are a pre-pubescent, or you have serious developmental issues.

Again, it's cool if you don't like it, but how exactly is this any more 'designed for children' than most other Nintendo games (and quite a few non-Nintendo ones that you may happen to like) ?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
Not everyone grows up to be the sophisticated sir that you are, drinky.  You know, some people just like to play this game with their friends.

I'm 18, so I'm okay.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: etiolate on September 07, 2007, 04:51:37 PM
manchildren are those threatened by a toy company
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on September 07, 2007, 04:53:09 PM
If there were more numbers, I'm sure Prole would change face. Not every game can be an Atelier Iris.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 05:18:54 PM
because what grown adult thinks "OMG MARIO VERSUS PIKACHU YESSSSSSS"
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 07, 2007, 05:20:00 PM
Dude, you bought Pokemon Pearl.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on September 07, 2007, 05:21:55 PM
Dude, you bought Pokemon Pearl.

Because it runs on numbers.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2007, 05:24:43 PM
Dude, you bought Pokemon Pearl.

Ya buts thats just straight up pokemon.  It's the indulging in bi-curious cross overs of Mario Vs Pokemon that he can't take.   
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 05:59:13 PM
i would be vaguely interested in pokemon regardless of the trapping simply because it is sold to me as an exercise in spreadsheet manipulation. however, i expressed a GREAT DEAL OF SHAME that i purchased it, and i also quickly returned it when i realized it wasn't as certain gaffers had sold it to me -- in fact, i made a pair of explosive gaf threads on the subject!

seriously, though, why would you play this game when you have vf5 or any other real fighting game out there? it's because deep down inside, you think LINK VERSUS KIRBY is AWESOME, and that makes you a nintot. the game is a child-oriented celebration of nintendo fanservice first and foremost, and that's what appeals to you. any depth discovered in the process of digesting all of this kiddy candy is because nintendo nostalgia and sanitzed mascot content hold such an appeal to you that you're willing to keep letting the game service your walleyed manchild gaming priorities again and again and again and again
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: CajoleJuice on September 07, 2007, 06:03:09 PM
I've never played VF.  :S My friends rented it and they all hated it.  :dizzy

Smash Bros on the other hand...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And no, they're not virgins as well.
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Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 06:12:56 PM
yeah, I hate the argument that it's "deep," like spending 500 hours with something to uncover all the obscure programming glitches compares to actual gameplay depth ::)

Nintendo fans reminds me of the girl in Xenocide who spent years tracing wood grain in the floor
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Eduardo24 on September 07, 2007, 06:18:40 PM
Smash is not deep nor balanced.  Hell, the only way to make this thing playable at tourneys is by banning EVERYTHING that makes Smash, Smash. 
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2007, 06:27:12 PM
Christ, you guys are trying to fucking make excuses for BUYING VIDEOGAMES.  Just come to the realization that you not impressing anybody whenenever you buy any game.  Fuckin' hell, why some of you can't just sit down and enjoy the game for what it is just fucking blows my mind.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 06:29:04 PM
Christ, you guys are trying to fucking make excuses for BUYING VIDEOGAMES.  Just come to the realization that you not impressing anybody whenenever you buy any game.  Fuckin' hell, why some of you can't just sit down and enjoy the game for what it is just fucking blows my mind.

Because the game is entirely without merit and there's absolutely no enjoyment to be derived from the game qua game. Any "enjoyment" you get from Smash Bros. is entirely due to pre-existing Nintendo fandom, and entirely not due to anything in the game itself.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Oblivion on September 07, 2007, 06:35:57 PM
This nerd hierarchy thing is pretty fuggin pathetic.

Just for fun, I'll ask why something like Marvel VS. Capcom (and not taking gameplay into account, simply the whole nostalgia/kiddy aspect) is fine to like? It works on the same principles.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 06:38:29 PM
I don't like MvC2 for exactly the same reasons I don't like Smash Bros. I don't like Super Robot Wars games either. Or any game predicated on "mashing up" various characters and franchises for various effect. This is why I don't consider the Nintendo "sports" games to be actual games.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I do like Kingdom Hearts. :-\.
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Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2007, 06:41:12 PM
i would be vaguely interested in pokemon regardless of the trapping simply because it is sold to me as an exercise in spreadsheet manipulation. however, i expressed a GREAT DEAL OF SHAME that i purchased it, and i also quickly returned it when i realized it wasn't as certain gaffers had sold it to me -- in fact, i made a pair of explosive gaf threads on the subject!

seriously, though, why would you play this game when you have vf5 or any other real fighting game out there? it's because deep down inside, you think LINK VERSUS KIRBY is AWESOME, and that makes you a nintot. the game is a child-oriented celebration of nintendo fanservice first and foremost, and that's what appeals to you. any depth discovered in the process of digesting all of this kiddy candy is because nintendo nostalgia and sanitzed mascot content hold such an appeal to you that you're willing to keep letting the game service your walleyed manchild gaming priorities again and again and again and again

But thats the thing, I find VF and the other "real" fighting games daunting because I never new anyone that played it growing up so I never played it either then, so coming into it, when people I know have had a character mastered from the 3rd one, it makes it unplayable.  Drinky your an oldfart  :P that grew up in the golden age of arcades where you could find competition, I didn't.   the only fighters that I know how to play are street fighter 2 (which I suck at) and Smash.  I don't like it because its a fan boys wet dream simulator I like it because it fun, which probably has something to due to the fact that I can actually play it.   
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 06:41:33 PM
sorry Brandnew some of us do this for a living.

Why do something new and original and fun when you can just put, I dunno, the ship from Guardian Legend in your game?

Actually, that would be hot. Who owns the rights? We totally need to make a DS game based on this.

I'm gonna make my first NWN2 mod a Guardian Legend total conversion. WHO'S WITH ME?!
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2007, 06:41:57 PM
sorry Brandnew some of us do this for a living.

what games have you worked on again? 
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 07, 2007, 06:47:58 PM
I'm just saying what Oblivion said better in his last post.  You all spew this incredibly analyzed hate for certain games, but in all honestly no one should give a shit.

Billy Rygar, I love videogames.  How is that not evident?  I'm not poking fun at developers or anything–I'm poking fun at the elitist that goes on with this shit.  It's about as pathetic as anime elitism.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Oblivion on September 07, 2007, 06:52:09 PM
I don't like MvC2 for exactly the same reasons I don't like Smash Bros. I don't like Super Robot Wars games either. Or any game predicated on "mashing up" various characters and franchises for various effect. This is why I don't consider the Nintendo "sports" games to be actual games.

And that's perfectly fine, something I have no issues with. You, drinky and whoever is free to hate the game (or any game) however so you like. What I had the issue with was how it doesn't seem fathomable that anyone except nostalgia diehards would like something SSB.

It would be like me saying the only people that like GTA are sociopaths who only play it because it fulfills their dreams of always wanting to kill civilians and hookers...or something. (I'll think of a better example later...)
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 07:04:51 PM
Christ, you guys are trying to fucking make excuses for BUYING VIDEOGAMES.  Just come to the realization that you not impressing anybody whenenever you buy any game.  Fuckin' hell, why some of you can't just sit down and enjoy the game for what it is just fucking blows my mind.

that's the problem: sans the mascot fetish shenanigans, it's a shallow fighting game. if you replaced every mascot in the game with generic ninja characters designed by a bad european dev house, this game would be excoriated, and the all-too-hilarious fanboys missives extolling its depth would go tragically unpenned

as for mvc: it's not a great game. but capcom makes a great fighting engine first, and THEN tacks on the fan service. sf2 was a great game that did NOT leverage any significant pre-existing ip. smash brothers is just a shitty polyglot fanfuck lacquered over the top of a sub-powerstone 4P spazathon that was developed not as a fighting engine first and foremost but as a vehicle to support said fanservice.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 07, 2007, 07:06:10 PM
to be honest, i only play gta for sociopathic reasons. i like to cause virtual chaos, which is good for a couple hours of stupid fun. which is why i rarely discuss the gta games in a positive fashion and never buy them for more than $20.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on September 07, 2007, 07:14:43 PM
I think most people that play fighting games realize that smash bros. is designed for 4 players and so the standards you apply to it for it's depth and art are completely different.

I.E: Everybody else plays it, so you play it.

Jesus FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Shuri on September 07, 2007, 07:17:00 PM
That smash bro clone for XBLA played exactly like smash bro and it was totally ignored. It featured generic 'bad-ass' version of animals
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on September 07, 2007, 07:22:25 PM
small arms?  I played the demo for two minutes, all you did was shoot.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2007, 07:35:33 PM
This is totally as good and deep as smash bros

http://www.doublefine.com/news.php/minigames/epic_fighter

Tim Schafer's Double Fine Productions has announced its latest game, one that is definitely not Brutal Legend starring Jack Black as a dead roadie clawing his way from Rock and Roll Hell to Rock and Roll Heaven. No, instead, Double Fine brings us an original IP shocker in Epic Saga - Extreme Fighter an amazingly deep online fighting game that tells the story of "a barbaric hero in an epic fantasy world, fighting his way from Rock and Roll Hell to Rock and Roll Heaven."

Players can choose to progress through the game's storyline with one of six fighters, including the Barbarian, Horny Witch, Dark Wizard, Cave Dweller and Gnome King, with the speedy Gnome featured as an unlockable character. This is AAA stuff, folks. Once you see all four frames of animation on each beautifully rendered character, you will believe that Double Fine is ready for the next-next-generation of hardware.

If you've got the skills to take on this series of truly extreme fighters, you won't be disappointed. The ending is nothing short of spectacular.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 07:37:38 PM
that's the problem: sans the mascot fetish shenanigans, it's a shallow fighting game. if you replaced every mascot in the game with generic ninja characters designed by a bad european dev house, this game would be excoriated, and the all-too-hilarious fanboys missives extolling its depth would go tragically unpenned

Wow, I just realized that Smash Bros with shitty generic ninja characters is Kung Fu Chaos!
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
I bet this guy likes Smash Bros.!

(http://www.nintenblog.com/images/retrovar1/nintendo-tattoo.jpg)
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on September 07, 2007, 08:26:15 PM
I bet this guy likes Smash Bros.!

(http://www.nintenblog.com/images/retrovar1/nintendo-tattoo.jpg)

Now thats sexy and bright!

sorry Brandnew some of us do this for a living.

what games have you worked on again? 
I've worked on some crap before.  Believe me.  What i was saying is I try to turn a critical eye towards everything I play, rather than treat it as a recreational activity.

I didn't mean to make it sound ass holeish, I just wanted to know where you worked and what you've done.
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Post by: tiesto on September 07, 2007, 08:54:29 PM
I've argued against the anti-Smash brigade plenty of times that it's far less daunting to get people to play a game with sanitized Nintendo mascots and a healthy heaping of nostalgia (especially my fellow 80's kids) than it is to get them to play something like VF5, with its myriad of button combinations and unfamiliar characters. Not too many people play fighters hardcore anymore, there is no arcade culture so to speak near me... I could go and play in Chinatown and get some excellent competition I'm sure, but I dunno... going all the way to the city to play arcade games seems kinda impractical.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 07, 2007, 08:55:50 PM
I dunno, nobody I hang out with would ever touch Smash with a 10-foot pole, even if that 10-foot pole was the pixelated flagpole from SMB1.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 08, 2007, 12:31:57 AM
Well, how old are you?

It honestly something that teens and college kids get a lot of play time with the most.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 08, 2007, 12:48:28 AM
a human being in their "teenage" years is incapable of forming a reasoned opinion about any matter, let alone one as important as fighting videogames

when I was in college, we played:

Street Fighter Alpha 2 and 3; Tekken 3 and Tag Tournament; Tetris Attack (aka Panel de Pon); Puyo Puyo, Magical Drop 3, and Bishi Bashi Special.

All real games for real men.

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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 08, 2007, 01:00:48 AM
magical drop 3 :bow :bow
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Post by: brawndolicious on September 08, 2007, 02:34:06 AM
tekken's pretty boring.  I honestly think nintendo fans hyped SC2 more than SSBM, I played the xbox and gc versions and Link was definitely more fun to use than spawn.  maybe he was just more technical but with link I could finish most fights in one try while it would take probably 2 tries with spawn (due to special circumstances of match/lack of experience against a certain fighter).
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 08, 2007, 03:07:00 AM
Tetris Attack :bow

I really find that Panel de Pon DS is fucking broken online. You can stack on your opponent indefinitely, but as long as he's able to do SOMETHING, he lives. I think it helps me actually, as most people use the stylus and I still beat them just using the d-pad.
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Post by: etiolate on September 08, 2007, 03:28:28 AM
Quote
that's the problem: sans the mascot fetish shenanigans, it's a shallow fighting game.


You just like totally disqualified your opinion. 


But that is nothing new.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 08, 2007, 03:33:43 AM
we had like four or five REALLY good (could get regular question mark chain) TA players.

that + drink when you lose = good times
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Post by: Ichirou on September 08, 2007, 09:21:03 AM
I still think Street Fighter Alpha 2 is the best game, not just in the Alpha series, but out of the whole Street Fighter series.
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Post by: Shuri on September 08, 2007, 10:04:48 AM
I always felt that sf3a was better, was were the difference between 2 and 3 that made 2 better?
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Post by: Eduardo24 on September 08, 2007, 10:13:49 AM
I would never take someone that likes Atelier Iris 3 to work for my company.  Still love Drinky, though.  Most articulate troll ever.
.
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Post by: Ichirou on September 08, 2007, 10:31:31 AM
I always felt that sf3a was better, was were the difference between 2 and 3 that made 2 better?

2 had way better balance between all the characters, plus the new -Isms stuff in SFA3 changed the gameplay in a way I did not like.
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Post by: Eduardo24 on September 08, 2007, 10:39:10 AM
Alpha 3 = AM BORKED TOTAL
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Post by: bagofeyes on September 08, 2007, 01:40:47 PM
i love smash bros. its aweomse
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Post by: Smooth Groove on September 08, 2007, 01:51:56 PM
Street Fighter 3 was better than SFA or even SF2 but the characters lacked the charisma of the SF2 cast,  which is probably why it wasn't half as popular as SF2. 
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Post by: Oblivion on September 08, 2007, 05:41:20 PM
when I was in college, we played:

Puyo Puyo, Magical Drop 3, and Bishi Bashi Special.

All real games for real men.



magical drop 3 :bow :bow

So I guess it's safe to conclude that the kiddyness argument won't be brought up in future SSB topics?
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Post by: Fragamemnon on September 08, 2007, 05:51:17 PM
So I guess it's safe to say that the whole kiddyness argument is now thrown out the window?

You don't play Magical Drop 3 for the cutey characters, you play for the awesome game mechanics.

As opposed to Smash Brothers, which children only really play so they can see PIKACHU versus YOSHI.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Oblivion on September 08, 2007, 06:02:29 PM
So I guess it's safe to say that the whole kiddyness argument is now thrown out the window?

You don't play Magical Drop 3 for the cutey characters, you play for the awesome game mechanics.

As opposed to Smash Brothers, which children only really play so they can see PIKACHU versus YOSHI.

Yes, but we've moved on to the argument about how a supposed well-adjusted, heterosexual adult male 'should' feel comfortable with at first glance.
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Post by: Gay Boy on September 08, 2007, 06:28:26 PM
this game is the ultimate game of all freakin time i dont care wat any1 says this game is gonna be awesome and if it has wifi then even more of a reason for it to be the best plus they broke the rules and added characters that r not nintendo logos maybe even sonic could be here at least as an assist trophie it rocks 1 thing is you can see more guys that you havent even smash around yet but nothing personal if i could put two more guys in the game it would be sonic and walugi like come on why does wario get all the glory as a new guy right or maybe not but i havent play it yet but ill see when i get it on x mas
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Post by: brawndolicious on September 08, 2007, 07:04:39 PM
^you copied a fucking gaffer post gay!

and oblivion, why are you defending kiddiness?

for the people thinking this game is shit, why is it that 30 year old, caucasian, DW fans are saying I don't play like a real gamer?  did your therapist stare at you for 20 minutes and say you're a special flower?

it's a game with fucking nintendo mascots.

that makes it a game about fucking nintendo mascots.

nobody will be confused.

except you fegs.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Vizzys on September 08, 2007, 07:06:14 PM
I have returned from my slumber to do one thing.

Defend this series.

Haters just dont know
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 08, 2007, 07:23:07 PM
Viz! :bow
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Post by: Yeti on September 08, 2007, 08:09:59 PM
Smash Bros. is my second favorite fighting series.

I am considering purchasing a Wii because of this game.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 08, 2007, 08:25:38 PM
I've played like 20 hours of N64 and GC Smash Bros have literally never enjoyed myself for a single second of it.
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Post by: Vizzys on September 08, 2007, 08:30:38 PM
I've played like 20 hours of N64 and GC Smash Bros have literally never enjoyed myself for a single second of it.

wow.
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Post by: Gay Boy on September 08, 2007, 09:12:21 PM
^you copied a fucking gaffer post gay!
Not even gaffers are that lowly. I took it from a ebgames.com "review".
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Post by: bud on September 08, 2007, 09:14:39 PM
you guys. smh. ssm in mp is awesome. one of the few gamecubes games i enjoyed playing :bow

the sequel is going to be awesome, too, but there needs to be an online mode.
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 08, 2007, 09:20:06 PM
bud  :heartbeat
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 08, 2007, 09:24:46 PM
do you play as link or pikachu
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Eduardo24 on September 08, 2007, 09:30:16 PM
I dont see any point of buying the wii version.  If you already have the GC version, just replay that one.  Or does the wii version have online?
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Post by: CajoleJuice on September 08, 2007, 09:38:07 PM
do you play as link or pikachu

i swing both ways
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Post by: Gay Boy on September 08, 2007, 09:43:32 PM
I dont see any point of buying the wii version.  If you already have the GC version, just replay that one.  Or does the wii version have online?
more characters, stages..blah blah blah
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Post by: Fragamemnon on September 08, 2007, 09:52:27 PM
I dont see any point of buying the wii version.  If you already have the GC version, just replay that one.  Or does the wii version have online?
more characters, stages..blah blah blah

more mascots, more costumes!

they need a dress-your-mascot mode with the flexibility of forza's livery system. the ninthings would fall over themselves playing with it.
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Post by: brawndolicious on September 08, 2007, 09:52:57 PM
I usually play as samus.  most people get a rush out of beating nintendo characters, not beating with them.
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Post by: Eduardo24 on September 08, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
Its the same thing with new avatars...
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Post by: tiesto on September 08, 2007, 10:07:28 PM
Viz is back... nice... dude, I'm about to beat Earthbound, although I kinda put it on hold to play Blue Dragon :P

Brawl needs 4 things for it to be like the greatest:

-Online play
-Sonic
-Mike Jonessssss as an assist
-Doc Lewis riding on the bike

Playing a game for 20 hours and not liking it? I don't get why people do this to themselves... I'll know within an hour or two if a game is for me or not... although then again I beat FF2 *TWICE* and beat the first Xenosaga, so I should be one to talk :P
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Post by: Gay Boy on September 08, 2007, 10:12:30 PM
Its the same thing with new avatars...
thats every fighting game in a nutshell. Not to defend SSBB though (only wii game I plan on getting is mario).
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Post by: Vizzys on September 08, 2007, 10:21:31 PM
Viz is back... nice... dude, I'm about to beat Earthbound, although I kinda put it on hold to play Blue Dragon :P

yes... :bow

 I would like to get Blue Dragon but sadly Im a dirty poor atm.
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Post by: Ichirou on September 08, 2007, 10:53:53 PM
Viz is back.  Can't believe it's been two months already!  :o
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 08, 2007, 11:18:58 PM
hey ninbabies
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 08, 2007, 11:21:15 PM
hai
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Post by: Gay Boy on September 08, 2007, 11:42:08 PM
hey ninbabies
this isn't drinkys goty?!?:
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/diddykong/diddykong_070822a-l.jpg)
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Post by: y2kev on September 09, 2007, 12:00:12 AM
hai

iie
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2007, 12:16:21 AM
I've never played Smash Bros., but Alan Kwan on Usenet liked it and that guy knew from game mechanics substance.  So I'm pretty sure Drinky et al. must be wrong.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2007, 12:29:55 AM
alan kwan was legendary for making shit into shinola, especially when it came to obscure saturn games. no dice!
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2007, 12:31:43 AM
he had a thing for catgirl dating games, but I don't think his fetishes ever included Nintendo mascots.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2007, 12:35:25 AM
i recall him trying to pretend astra super stars was deep. we all lol'd. just because he explicated culdcept doesn't mean he isn't guilty of fanboy goggles, especially the sort that also operate as blinders and perceive depth where it doesn't exist.
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Post by: recursivelyenumerable on September 09, 2007, 12:44:40 AM
sure but Smash Bros. isn't an obscure Saturn game or a hentai adventure game, and it doesn't have character designs by whassisname who does the creepy Langrisser/Growlanser girls, so I'm not sure what the relevant fanboy goggles would be.  like he posted this in '99, I guess before actually playing Smash Bros. much:

Quote

The N64 already is hopelessly a kid's system.  At least, most of what
Nintendo has been releasing lately has been small kids' games.
(Pokemon stuff, Smash Bros. etc.)

"Live life with Heart." - Alan Kwan / ta...@notmenetvigator.com
http://home.netvigator.com/~tarot (hard-core game reviews)
(please remove anti-spam section "notme" from mailing address)
Dimension S editor:  http://209.213.100.47/

just doesn't seem to fit the profile.
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 09, 2007, 01:56:25 AM
Playing a game for 20 hours and not liking it? I don't get why people do this to themselves... I'll know within an hour or two if a game is for me or not... although then again I beat FF2 *TWICE* and beat the first Xenosaga, so I should be one to talk :P

1) That's over the course of the past 10 years, which is < 2 hours a year.
2) I would go to parties or people's houses where Smash Bros. was being played and be dragooned into playing it.

It never got fun. :(
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Post by: Smooth Groove on September 09, 2007, 02:28:58 AM
Which Asian gaming "expert" is more full of shit?  Alan Kwan or Marty Chinn? 
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Post by: tiesto on September 09, 2007, 10:18:42 AM
Alan Kwan was awesome... there's a name I haven't heard in years.
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Post by: Ichirou on September 09, 2007, 10:22:35 AM
Man, that's a blast from the past.  I wonder what all those Usenet personalities are up to nowadays.
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Post by: Prost on September 09, 2007, 11:30:40 AM
as if it's not already selling enough, this game will be a console seller.

it's fucking smash bros!! millions of achievements and different crazy shit.  tons of options, awesome fighting, hilarious modes...  just pure awesome in every sense of the word.

as long as link still has the up air attack and the down air attack, i'm there!  heeeeyaaaaaaah!
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Post by: Prost on September 09, 2007, 11:31:47 AM
Playing a game for 20 hours and not liking it? I don't get why people do this to themselves... I'll know within an hour or two if a game is for me or not... although then again I beat FF2 *TWICE* and beat the first Xenosaga, so I should be one to talk :P

1) That's over the course of the past 10 years, which is < 2 hours a year.
2) I would go to parties or people's houses where Smash Bros. was being played and be dragooned into playing it.

It never got fun. :(

!!!!
!!!!
!!!!

don't make me whip out the large trout
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Post by: tiesto on September 09, 2007, 02:16:11 PM
Playing a game for 20 hours and not liking it? I don't get why people do this to themselves... I'll know within an hour or two if a game is for me or not... although then again I beat FF2 *TWICE* and beat the first Xenosaga, so I should be one to talk :P

1) That's over the course of the past 10 years, which is < 2 hours a year.
2) I would go to parties or people's houses where Smash Bros. was being played and be dragooned into playing it.

It never got fun. :(

But I thought you didn't hang out with people who played Smash Bros?  ???
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Post by: Shuri on September 09, 2007, 02:43:30 PM
Smash Bro will be a catastrophe if it even gets online. People will find exploits and the game will be destroyed. And you can be sure that Nintendo won't have a way to figure shit up when that happens.
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Post by: brawndolicious on September 09, 2007, 02:45:49 PM
shuri, you do know that nintendo LEAVES the debug menu in smash bros?
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Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on September 09, 2007, 03:03:41 PM
Playing a game for 20 hours and not liking it? I don't get why people do this to themselves... I'll know within an hour or two if a game is for me or not... although then again I beat FF2 *TWICE* and beat the first Xenosaga, so I should be one to talk :P

1) That's over the course of the past 10 years, which is < 2 hours a year.
2) I would go to parties or people's houses where Smash Bros. was being played and be dragooned into playing it.

It never got fun. :(

But I thought you didn't hang out with people who played Smash Bros?  ???

I never played Smash Bros with the same people twice, that's for damn sure!
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Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2007, 04:00:54 PM
Okay, it just occured to me that most of the detractors here are just trying to get a reaction. I would hope at least, considering some are intelligent enough to know that some of their own fetishes would be considered far far worse to 'normal' people than anything out of Nintendo.

By the way, one last thing. Does it really matter if SSB isn't as 'deep' as Virtua Fighter or other fighting games? It's supposed to be a party game with items and shit to make it frantic. The games are doing two different things. It's like hating on Shadow of the Colossus cause it's fighting system isn't as deep as God of War's.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 09, 2007, 04:45:56 PM
Shadow of the Cololsus did suck though, BECAUSE of its fighting system.

Sorry, I just really don't like that game.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on September 09, 2007, 04:58:48 PM
SOTC's boss fights were more like platforming than a real fight.  I didn't like it much either.  I gave up after the 8th boss because it just felt really boring.  Plus, it was kinda ugly.  I never understood why SOTC got so much praise for its visuals. 

I liked ICO though, which is kinda surprising, since most gamers like SOTC more than ICO. 
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 09, 2007, 05:18:28 PM
It's style is undeniably really great, but yeah, its graphics are awful awful shit.
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Post by: Robo on September 09, 2007, 06:25:32 PM
Okay, it just occured to me that most of the detractors here are just trying to get a reaction. I would hope at least, considering some are intelligent enough to know that some of their own fetishes would be considered far far worse to 'normal' people than anything out of Nintendo.

By the way, one last thing. Does it really matter if SSB isn't as 'deep' as Virtua Fighter or other fighting games? It's supposed to be a party game with items and shit to make it frantic. The games are doing two different things. It's like hating on Shadow of the Colossus cause it's fighting system isn't as deep as God of War's.

There is a sizable contingent of ninthings that would argue that Smash Bros is more than just a party game, that it is as deep as some other more seriously-taken fighting games.  It's featured at EVO now -- the largest fighting game tournament in North America -- which has an otherwise inarguably legitimate lineup (you can see the most recent here: http://www.evo2k.com/). 

I don't particularly agree and I think, as it was designed, the game is purely a mascot-oriented party game, and not even as well done as Power Stone 2.  The substance it ultimately contains has been derived through exploits -- wave dashing, I-canceling, and so on -- and by limiting some of the options (items should be turned off, for instance) and doesn't have much, if any, affect on the people not playing it for sport, especially so long as the series remains offline.

And also, I would say God of War's system is about as deep as SotC's, but ho ho that's yet another tangent.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2007, 07:37:33 PM
dude, naruto: clash of ninja 2 has been featured at larger fighting tournaments, despite it being based on the bloody roar engine and shallow as hell. this is because dipshit ninthings refused to buy a ps2, and will hype any exclusive fighting game on their system, especially if it has mascots or a license.
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Post by: Smooth Groove on September 09, 2007, 07:39:57 PM
The new Naruto on the PSP is a very good portable fighting game.  I like the fact that you don't have to rely on the PSP's Dpad to pull off specials.  And the graphics are nice for a PSP game. 
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on September 09, 2007, 07:47:37 PM
(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6982/av15689dv.gif)
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on September 09, 2007, 08:46:38 PM
dude, naruto: clash of ninja 2 has been featured at larger fighting tournaments, despite it being based on the bloody roar engine and shallow as hell. this is because dipshit ninthings refused to buy a ps2, and will hype any exclusive fighting game on their system, especially if it has mascots or a license.

Isn't this the case for every ignorant fan base?
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Post by: etiolate on September 09, 2007, 09:12:21 PM
Okay, it just occured to me that most of the detractors here are just trying to get a reaction. I would hope at least, considering some are intelligent enough to know that some of their own fetishes would be considered far far worse to 'normal' people than anything out of Nintendo.

By the way, one last thing. Does it really matter if SSB isn't as 'deep' as Virtua Fighter or other fighting games? It's supposed to be a party game with items and shit to make it frantic. The games are doing two different things. It's like hating on Shadow of the Colossus cause it's fighting system isn't as deep as God of War's.

There is a sizable contingent of ninthings that would argue that Smash Bros is more than just a party game, that it is as deep as some other more seriously-taken fighting games.  It's featured at EVO now -- the largest fighting game tournament in North America -- which has an otherwise inarguably legitimate lineup (you can see the most recent here: http://www.evo2k.com/). 

I don't particularly agree and I think, as it was designed, the game is purely a mascot-oriented party game, and not even as well done as Power Stone 2.  The substance it ultimately contains has been derived through exploits -- wave dashing, I-canceling, and so on -- and by limiting some of the options (items should be turned off, for instance) and doesn't have much, if any, affect on the people not playing it for sport, especially so long as the series remains offline.


And all the depth of SF2 came from what was an exploit...

And it's a fuckload deeper than Powerstone. I like Powerstone as well, but Smash has way more lasting power because of the depth.





You peeps are really getting sad with the irrational Nintendo hate.


As a side note, I really dislike playing with items turned off.  It is one good dynamic of the game and removing them also removes a layer of strategy.
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Post by: Robo on September 09, 2007, 09:44:25 PM
I'm not going to defend the fighting game community's stance on this -- they'll play anything you can attach a tier list to.  The point was more to illustrate just how popular that opinion is.

SF2 has a fair share of exploits, but they aren't what gives the game substance --and that game is also over 15 years old.  Beyond Smash Bros.' exploits and the different situations items create (in many cases, a random element!), there is NOTHING.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on September 09, 2007, 09:48:10 PM
look on google video for a video called "smash bros. east coast versus west coast".  the way those people fight is interesting.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on September 21, 2007, 04:42:00 AM
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake.jpg)

The legendary mercenary makes his miraculous Smash debut! This law-breaking news roared around the world.

He comes fully-loaded with cool and showy weapons that only he could possess. Fusing these together with the different wondrous worlds on display really does offer new horizons.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921a-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921b-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/it/characters/images/snake/snake_070921d-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/it/characters/images/snake/snake_070921c-l.jpg)


It’s not just Snake’s special moves that use military hardware – so do his smash attacks. Can that be?

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921e-l.jpg)

He’s shooting something up in the air!


(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921f-l.jpg)

He’s planting something!

------------------------------------------

Side Special Move: Remote Missile

This is called a Nikita. It’s a remote-controlled missile.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921g-l.jpg)

Missile fired!

You can control the missile yourself! But since Snake is so focused on controlling the missile, he’s completely defenceless while he does so.

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921h-l.jpg)

If things get dangerous, press the shield button to stop controlling the missile.


Standard Special Move: Hand Grenade


(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921i-l.jpg)

Try walking around with the pin out.

Press your special-move button to pull out the pin. The grenade will explode after a few seconds, so be aware of the time and press the special-move button again to toss the grenade.


Strong throw!

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921j1-l.jpg)

Mid throw!

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921j2-l.jpg)

Soft throw!

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921j3-l.jpg)

There are three ways to throw the grenade. Tilt the Control Stick forwards, not at all, or backwards.

In some cases, grenades you drop may get returned to sender.

And his recovery special move is...

Up Special Move: Cypher

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921k-l.jpg)

Oh! Watch out! In times like this...

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_uk/characters/images/snake/snake_070921l-l.jpg)

Shoosh-shoosh-shoosh-shoosh-shoosh!

Use his flying reconnaissance camera, the Cypher, to recover. Snake can’t fly, but he’ll do what he must.

He’ll use anything in the battlefield. That’s the crux of survival.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on September 21, 2007, 05:02:31 AM
that cypher thing is pretty fucking gay.  some of his moves look too complicated/not SSB enough though.  I'm worried he'll be unbalanced.  I mean, what logical advantage does his nikita missle have over samuses lock-on missiles in this game?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Yeti on September 29, 2007, 12:23:00 AM
I like this screenshot.
(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various06/various06_070928g-l.jpg)

Look at the name on the far right.  :-*
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on October 29, 2007, 05:22:07 AM
you can make custom stages! 

it's a actually a pretty complex feature.  you can choose the music, level design, and even background of the stage and you can send it to people on your smash bros. friends list.  you can even send it to a nintendo server and then the server will randomly send you a stage somebody else made.  they explain all the parts to it a lot better at the link.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html (http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various10/various10_071029b-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various10/various10_071029c-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various10/various10_071029d-l.jpg)
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 29, 2007, 07:19:56 AM
I bought a Gamecube just to play Smash Bros

I will not buy a Wii to buy Smash Bros

I am smarter now.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Beezy on October 29, 2007, 07:32:19 AM
Goddamn, how much do they plan on putting into this game?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Barry Egan on October 29, 2007, 10:18:23 AM
(http://www.smashbros.com/it/characters/images/snake/snake_070921c-l.jpg)

omg, boner city  :drool
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: etiolate on October 29, 2007, 05:31:00 PM
I wish you could upload jpegs as stage backgrounds in stage creator.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on October 29, 2007, 05:56:05 PM
they could probably do that but they'd be worried about people randomly getting sent penis pics that way.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Candyflip on October 29, 2007, 05:59:29 PM
that cypher thing is pretty fucking gay.  some of his moves look too complicated/not SSB enough though.  I'm worried he'll be unbalanced.  I mean, what logical advantage does his nikita missle have over samuses lock-on missiles in this game?
Yeah..they seem to be notoriously bad at balancing characters. It will probably end up just like Melee where we see the best characters divided into tiers. I think they're more aiming to please the casual players for this game. Then again, who knows, maybe this one will have the potential to be just as competitive as it's predecessor.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on October 29, 2007, 06:08:50 PM
I think mellee was a lot more balanced than the first one and I also loved that it was locked at 60 fps.  the characters actually weren't unbalanced, they just took a long time to get used to.  I think they might be able to balance snake since they're only adding a couple new  characters and probably not that many new moves for the old ones.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on October 29, 2007, 06:14:39 PM
Can you change the gravity of each level?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on October 29, 2007, 07:04:08 PM
well probably once you download it.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on January 09, 2008, 04:10:30 AM
you can play as Olimar and the pikmin.

yeah I know...

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/images/common/entry_banner.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikmin/pikmin.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikmin/pikmin_080109b-l.jpg)

(http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pikmin/pikmin_080109d-l.jpg)

pikmin music
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music20.html (http://"http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music20.html")

Olimar looks disproportionally small.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: The Sceneman on January 09, 2008, 05:26:55 AM
I bet the purple fucker is used for a sweet special move
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Yeti on January 09, 2008, 11:22:51 PM
I never played the Pikmin games, how does EB rate them?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 09, 2008, 11:49:09 PM
I never played the Pikmin games, how does EB rate them?

Win/10
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on January 10, 2008, 01:06:49 AM
I never played the Pikmin games, how does EB rate them?
they were really good games.  if you have a cube or a wii, I would recommend picking it up.  basically they were strategy games where you command up to 100 pikmin of different colors (and attributes) to eventually bring shit back to your ship.  so there was a lot of resource management and of course you had to look out for anything harmful to your pikmin.  very fun game, don't know what else to say.  I think the second had a multiplayer mode of some sort.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: The Sceneman on January 10, 2008, 02:07:27 AM
yeah Pikmin rules, the second game is a lot longer and more involving, but the 1st one is short and probably a beter enrty to the series.... buy em both
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2008, 02:15:57 AM
when are they gonna show tony the tiger or lucky the leprechaun or whatever those silly things you preteens get excited about
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: drew on January 10, 2008, 02:18:00 AM
I hate this game so much.  Whenever my friends bust this out I sit there on the couch bored (not playing), saying "let's do something else" every 5 minutes, ether that or I leave.   8)
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: demi on January 10, 2008, 02:19:17 AM
I never played the Pikmin games, how does EB rate them?

pikmin :heart
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Vizzys on January 10, 2008, 02:24:30 AM
I hate this game so much.  Whenever my friends bust this out I sit there on the couch bored (not playing), saying "let's do something else" every 5 minutes, ether that or I leave.   8)

you have awesome friends
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2008, 02:27:28 AM
I hate this game so much.  Whenever my friends bust this out I sit there on the couch bored (not playing), saying "let's do something else" every 5 minutes, ether that or I leave.   8)

you have awesome friends

Yes, they're awesome for putting up with his Smash Bros hatred. I would have banned you from my house long ago. Smash Bros haters are not allowed to cross the threshold.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2008, 02:33:25 AM
do you get more excited when you think about playing as starfox or playing as princess peach

which brightly-colored saturday morning mascot makes you coo with the greatest delight
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: drew on January 10, 2008, 02:42:48 AM
Yes, they're awesome for putting up with his Smash Bros hatred. I would have banned you from my house long ago. Smash Bros haters are not allowed to cross the threshold.

I guess it's not that I "hate" it in the way prole does...I've aways just been completely indifferent, I just accept it's existence and never think about it. 

Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2008, 02:47:17 AM
you don't think its weird and tragic when grown adult males go into paroxysms of delight over pikachu and sonic the hedgehog?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: drew on January 10, 2008, 03:14:10 AM
Nah, but if by grown adult males you mean 30+ then yeah...it's embarrassing.  At my age I guess it's ok.  Even though they're desperately grasping at straws in nostalgia for the N64 (I grew up with these guys and playing N64 with them were some of my best childhood memories).
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2008, 03:26:09 AM
i mean 16+
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 10, 2008, 04:18:27 AM
do you get more excited when you think about playing as starfox or playing as princess peach

which brightly-colored saturday morning mascot makes you coo with the greatest delight

Pretty soon all fighting games will be filled with mascot characters. Soul Calibur is just the first domino to fall (if you don't count Gon in Tekken 3); I expect the cast of That's So Raven or some other Nickelodeon show to be making an appearance in Virtua Fighter 6. Nintendo's just one step ahead of everyone else, as usual.

And for the record, I usually play as Luigi (w/ the gay pink overalls).
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on January 10, 2008, 05:35:52 AM
I play as Samus!

or Kirby.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: CajoleJuice on January 10, 2008, 08:03:24 AM
you don't think its weird and tragic when grown adult males go into paroxysms of delight over pikachu and sonic the hedgehog?

how about darth vader and yoda?
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: brawndolicious on January 10, 2008, 08:12:40 AM
fuck buying DLC characters.  fucking namco, bitches..
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 10, 2008, 06:33:25 PM
Well, how old are you?

It honestly something that teen nerds and college nerds get a lot of play time with the most.

Corrected above.

Teenagers and college students who play bright and happy fighting games are nerds.  Those that have their shit together are not going to spend their nights playing Nintendo fanservice.  In fact, I've seen more college kids play fucking Super Mario Brothers on the fucking NES than I see playing Smash Brothers.

If you're going to spend your Friday and Saturday nights playing video games instead of burying yourselves in the nubile bodies of young women, shit, at least do it right.

It is fan service first and gameplay second.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: TakingBackSunday on January 10, 2008, 06:36:11 PM
Wow, how can I argue.  Such a great point.  Bringing up something I posted, oh I don't know, last year.  Truly your point is just that good.
Title: Re: Ok, Smash Bros is pretty gay, but they are really going all out on this
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 10, 2008, 08:01:44 PM
Wow, how can I argue.  Such a great point.  Bringing up something I posted, oh I don't know, last year.  Truly your point is just that good.

Agreed.  I bet you wish you never wrote that post, eh?