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Title: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 05, 2007, 04:04:23 PM: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/03/world/americas/03mexico.html?_r=1&th&emc=th

"deportation of undocumented immigrants bordered on a violation of human rights, and he vowed to help illegal migrants."

“I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,” he said. “And, for this reason, the government action on behalf of our countrymen is guided by principles, for the defense and protection”

the U.S. military will be prepared to defend the border if they inva..

...oh.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2007, 04:14:33 PM: Quote from: am nintenho on September 05, 2007, 04:04:23 PM
“I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,” he said. “And, for this reason, the government action on behalf of our countrymen is guided by principles, for the defense and protection”

Doesn't Mexico stop people at it's Southern border?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:14:58 PM: Oh shit, just look at Mexican Border laws to see the hypocrisy?

Also, shouldn't Mexico be more worried about cleaning up their shit hole of a country first? what does Mexico have to gain from saying these things?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 05, 2007, 04:18:19 PM: Quote from: distantmantra on September 05, 2007, 04:14:33 PM
Doesn't Mexico stop people at it's Southern border?
I don't know, he's the president. :lol :lol :lol

Very odd diplomatic views.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:22:26 PM: Who will save america now??

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Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2007, 04:38:52 PM: “I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,”

What?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Candyflip on September 05, 2007, 04:40:07 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2007, 04:38:52 PM
“I have said that Mexico does not stop at its border, that wherever there is a Mexican, there is Mexico,”

What?
Mexico as in the support of the Mexican government.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Tauntaun on September 05, 2007, 04:45:27 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:22:26 PM
Who will save america now??

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yes yes yes...and YES!
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:50:57 PM: But I thought all these Mexicans are Americans just like the rest of us! I thought that was their argument the whole time!

Now they're Mexicans again and Mexico is going to support them!

WTF!?!?

jesus christ, i'm sorry, imma be real racist here and kind of self loathing, BUT MEXICANS ARE FUCKING DUMB.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM: k, ya know what, i'm not done.

those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

fuck them all. fuck them.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Candyflip on September 05, 2007, 04:52:22 PM: The whole world is fucking dumb. I want to go live in a hole with internet and a life time supply of ramen.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:55:23 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
k, ya know what, i'm not done.

those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

fuck them all. fuck them.

What is racist about this statement?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mr. Gundam on September 05, 2007, 04:57:13 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

I'm so glad someone was brave enough to say it.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:58:52 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
k, ya know what, i'm not done.

those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

fuck them all. fuck them.

What is racist about this statement?
Nothing about this one. I was referring to my previous statement.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:59:02 PM: b-b-b-but they contribute to the economy. cheap labor...

Come on drinky why dont you dabate now?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Saint Cornelius on September 05, 2007, 05:00:41 PM: Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:59:02 PM
dabate

settle down.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2007, 05:01:35 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
k, ya know what, i'm not done.

those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

fuck them all. fuck them.

Hyperbole aside I agree with you. They need to make a decision. If they want to become Americans and pay taxes like everyone else, fine. But this idea that they can illegally enter the country and then ignore all our procedures is ridiculous. There's nothing "racist" about that position.

We're never going to round up all the illegal individuals and kick them out the country; that would be nearly as fruitless as rounding up every gun from gun owners in this country. If they want to become legal citizens and pay their taxes, I say welcome them to the nation.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 05:02:14 PM: No fuck that drinky is quick to call me a racist and spout his PC garbage, but when people actually agree with me then what?
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 05:03:01 PM: Quote from: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2007, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 04:52:19 PM
k, ya know what, i'm not done.

those fucking little whiny assholes need to fucking decide whether they actually want to be Americans or whether they want to be Mexicans in the US. Because there is a huge fucking difference and they can't fucking have it both ways.

fuck them all. fuck them.

Hyperbole aside I agree with you. They need to make a decision. If they want to become Americans and pay taxes like everyone else, fine. But this idea that they can illegally enter the country and then ignore all our procedures is ridiculous. There's nothing "racist" about that position.

We're never going to round up all the illegal individuals and kick them out the country; that would be nearly as fruitless as rounding up every gun from gun owners in this country. If they want to become legal citizens and pay their taxes, I say welcome them to the nation.
I completely agree.

It's obvious that our own processes require some sort of reform, but that doesn't give anyone the right to completely disregard our current process and act like they deserve everything handed to them. Fuck that.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 05, 2007, 05:10:41 PM: Exactly. You don't sidestep the law when it's inconvienient for you; if I'm running late for class, I have no authority to run a red light or stop sign, and if I do I should suffer the consequences of my actions. It's a shame that they're allowed to take advantage of the system, and be taken advantage of by these disgusting corporations.

This won't be fixed overnight but sugarcoating the issue to retain votes is not helping at all. The corporations need to be dealt with, but of course that's unlikely due to the lobbying influence they have with both parties. A "wall" doesn't send the right message, but beefing up border security can still be done.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 05, 2007, 05:18:31 PM: sdf
Quote from: Tauntaun on September 05, 2007, 04:45:27 PM
Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 04:22:26 PM
Who will save america now??

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yes yes yes...and YES!
ron paul's a fucking idiot, I just don't get why libertarians exist.

and for everybody that's off topic, this is the PRESIDENT. The point of this thread is that even the government doesn't want to be in the country. most mexicans probably would prefer where they live in america any day since there's a lot of places where they can keep their culture (minus cockfighting).
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on September 05, 2007, 05:19:40 PM: Ron Paul 4 LYFEEE
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Candyflip on September 05, 2007, 05:19:59 PM: Can someone detail the process required to apply for citizenship? I don't even know what all immigrants have to do.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 05:20:14 PM: ???

People don't seem to distinguish what Americans believe and what President Bush spouts.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Himu on September 05, 2007, 05:20:26 PM: someone put up a wall so mexicans can't come
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 05:21:01 PM: Quote from: Candyflip on September 05, 2007, 05:19:59 PM
Can someone detail the process required to apply for citizenship? I don't even know what all immigrants have to do.
Apply
Pay
*wait (for forever lolz)*
Get rejected for a dumb reason

*rinse repeat*
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Stocky on September 05, 2007, 05:23:07 PM: Mexicans should be shot on sight if they try to cross the border. No warnings, nothing. JUST DEATH
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 05:25:18 PM: I just ate tacos lol
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 05, 2007, 05:31:27 PM: Quote from: Mupepe on September 05, 2007, 05:20:14 PM
???
People don't seem to distinguish what Americans believe and what President Bush spouts.
yeah they do. I don't think even neo-cons would say that he's a major part of this country.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2007, 04:45:47 AM: at least now GRAW makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: hyp on September 06, 2007, 07:48:55 PM: mexican hole-in-the-wall taquerias rock. but i agree, get citizenship or get the fuck out. i'm tired of driving on the highway behind a slow ass, paranoid mexican who doesn't have a license or insurance.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on September 06, 2007, 07:57:59 PM: Quote from: Cormacaroni on September 06, 2007, 04:45:47 AM
at least now GRAW makes a lot more sense.
Didn't Rainbow Six Vegas have an "invade Mexico" level? Does Tom Clancy have a hard-on for this shit? >:(
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Fresh Prince on September 06, 2007, 08:12:36 PM: Quote from: am nintenho on September 05, 2007, 05:18:31 PM
sdf
ron paul's a fucking idiot, I just don't get why libertarians exist.
Pretty much. His foreign policy seems on queue but domestically ugh.

Also Mexicans suck.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: drozmight on September 06, 2007, 08:38:50 PM: Mexicans built this city. THEY BUILT THIS CITY ON ROCK AND ROLL!
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: brawndolicious on September 06, 2007, 08:57:00 PM: I don't really get what could make a libertarian think they're ideals are a good idea. they think RADICAL change should come to save a few bucks. I'm sorry, that's not what a government is capable of.
Quote from: ferrarimanf355 on September 06, 2007, 07:57:59 PM
Didn't Rainbow Six Vegas have an "invade Mexico" level? Does Tom Clancy have a hard-on for this shit? >:(
yeah, both the GRAW's and rainbow 6 did plus you only shoot mexicans in rainbow 6 when in mexico and nevada. it's hilarious because they even gave them accents.
Title: Re: I think the mexican president just declared war on the U.S.
Post by: Phoenix Dark on September 06, 2007, 09:09:19 PM: Ron Paul love always brings about mixed emotions for me. On one hand I agree with many of his positions, yet it seems like he takes conservatism to literally. He's as close to a pacifist there is in modern politics. I love that he's a realist with respect to Iraq and terrorism though