THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Himu on October 11, 2006, 01:23:03 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVnsY9VRb9s
Seriously. GOTY material right here folks.
:hyper :hyper :hyper
I am buying a Gamecube just for this game.
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What are you doing right now?
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VP2 ftw btw. ftw
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What are you doing right now?
I'm doing graphic design hw :-\
I want VP2!
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I'm not going to watch that video and get excited again and then watch the GC version get canned.
This game has really fallen down my list of things I'm looking forward to since it was shown 2 and half years ago anyway.
Guitar Hero II FTW.
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lol graphic design hw, I did that :(
VP2 rox! its a total grind rpg tho, anyone who doesnt like those should VANISH into the night
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I'm about to vanish cuz I'm about to go to sleep :-*
need my beauty sleep am i rite
DO NOT EVER MENTION THE GC VERSION GETTING CANNED IN MY PRECENSE EVER AGAIN! NOO!
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I'm about to vanish cuz I'm about to go to sleep :-*
need my beauty sleep am i rite
DO NOT EVER MENTION THE GC VERSION GETTING CANNED IN MY PRECENSE EVER AGAIN! NOO!
I think I've convinced myself that it will be canned just so I'm that much happier when I actually have it in my hands after waiting for it forever.
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You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
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I see your Twilight Princess, and raise you with a Gears Of War.
Anyway, the wii looks like a dumb console imo and I'm anticipating Gears Of War waaaaaay more then zelda.
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Capcom Zelda *swoon*
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I see your Twilight Princess, and raise you with a Gears Of War.
Anyway, the wii looks like a dumb console imo and I'm anticipating Gears Of War waaaaaay more then zelda.
Who said anything about the Wii?
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How can I be an N-tard and not own a gamecube? N-tards ONLY own Gamecubes! >:(
Also, Cajole: you just gotta believe brother. I want to play TP as it was originally designed to be played before playing the Wii version personally and after all these years of waiting, I don't think Nintendo will cancel it.
:-*
btw I didn't hate Okami. And for the record, while 3d Zelda ain't got nothin on 2d Zelda, they're still great games. Also, Link's Awakening owns. You are WRONG White Man!
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Also, Cajole: you just gotta believe brother. I want to play TP as it was originally designed to be played before playing the Wii version personally and after all these years of waiting, I don't think Nintendo will cancel it.
They did for Europe and Japan. >:(
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I thought Europe is getting an GC version as well.
No matter, as NA is clearly superior. But we know that.
I mean, it's obvious Japan was going to go gaga over Wii anyways so that's a smart move on Nintendo's part. Us? Not so much. GC version plz.
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I assumed you were getting the wii version for zelda quicker.
Reading Comprehension FTL.
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I assumed you were getting the wii version for zelda quicker.
Reading Comprehension FTL.
:duh
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getting gc plz
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Hey Himu, I'll let you beat me off while I play TP on my Wii. :hyper
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You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
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You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
Totally agree. Best zelda ever.
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You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
Totally agree. Best zelda ever.
Seriously.
I'm not excited for Twilight Princess because I can't imagine it'll top Majora's Mask.
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Dude, get a Wii and play Twilight Princess on that system.
By the way that trailer is way too old. I'm glad the they changed the Twilight realm, it looks so much better now.
No. I will buy a Wii in 2007.
That trailer is old, but it's still the best trailer.
You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
Totally agree. Best zelda ever.
Seriously.
I'm not excited for Twilight Princess because I can't imagine it'll top Majora's Mask.
I hate it when people say this shit. In order to enjoy a game it has to be better than your personal favorite game in a series?
Final Fantasy VII fanboys ftl
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I can't wait either, although it looks like I'm not getting it anytime soon. I'm gonna buy the Xbox 360 instead of the Wii; I just don't have the space to be waggling in my room, and I damn sure won't be doing it in the living room in front of roommates; plus I wouldn't want to leave it down there anyway considering college kids steal shit.
Maybe my brothers will give me our old Gamecube once they get the Wii. I think I can hook that up to a monitor :lol
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Listen, im glad some of you like videogames, but some of these disucssions are just wtf.
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Look who's talking.
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Yeah but im a mod, so its ok for me to be hypocritical. I thought you woulda figured that out by now instead of pulling 'look at you' which is probably one of the laziest options you could have taken.
'Look at you', wtf is that?
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Yeah but im a mod, so its ok for me to be hypocritical. I thought you woulda figured that out by now instead of pulling 'look at you' which is probably one of the laziest options you could have taken.
'Look at you', wtf is that?
Well if that's the case, you shouldn't have any problems with GAF's mods amirite?
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:pimp
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Should be almost as good as Okami!
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Apparently the gc version will still be sold in Japan but only online. This means that chances of GC version being cancelled = slim, nada, not gunna happen chumps
:-[ :-*
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Apparently the gc version will still be sold in Japan but only online. This means that chances of GC version being cancelled = slim, nada, not gunna happen chumps
:-[ :-*
My dreams of a GAF - and more importantly, Amir0x - meltdown are shattered.
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why do you hate gaming
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Dude, get a Wii and play Twilight Princess on that system.
By the way that trailer is way too old. I'm glad the they changed the Twilight realm, it looks so much better now.
No. I will buy a Wii in 2007.
That trailer is old, but it's still the best trailer.
You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
Totally agree. Best zelda ever.
Seriously.
I'm not excited for Twilight Princess because I can't imagine it'll top Majora's Mask.
I hate it when people say this shit. In order to enjoy a game it has to be better than your personal favorite game in a series?
Final Fantasy VII fanboys ftl
I was burned bad by the shitfest that is Wind Waker. Bad enough that's I've got no real hopes for future 3D Zelda games.
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Dude, get a Wii and play Twilight Princess on that system.
By the way that trailer is way too old. I'm glad the they changed the Twilight realm, it looks so much better now.
No. I will buy a Wii in 2007.
That trailer is old, but it's still the best trailer.
You can't wait for Twilight Princess? Nintendo hasn't made a passable Zelda game since the SNES. Capcom's done the only good Zelda work, and you HATED Okami. I can only assume you're a filthy N-tard.
Bullshit. Majora's Mask is fantastic.
Totally agree. Best zelda ever.
Seriously.
I'm not excited for Twilight Princess because I can't imagine it'll top Majora's Mask.
I hate it when people say this shit. In order to enjoy a game it has to be better than your personal favorite game in a series?
Final Fantasy VII fanboys ftl
I was burned bad by the shitfest that is Wind Waker. Bad enough that's I've got no real hopes for future 3D Zelda games.
Well, you can't be afraid about TP because you had a bad experience with a bad Zelda clone. Play Okami and you'll get a taste of better things to come.
P.S. OoT is factually the best 3D Zelda ever (until TP comes out). :)
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Edge Mag's preview:
"The message is clear, this time Nintendo has made a game unafraid to stand tall beside those two previous titles (OOT, LTTP) widely regarded as the greatest in a series of greats. This is no 'what if' whimsy like the WW or the minish cap. TP is Zelda by the book and there's every sign that it's the most involved, the most ambitious, the just plain biggest zelda there's ever been."
"The sheer amount of content in TP is overwhelming. It throws new skills, items and intriguing twists at you far faster than any zelda before it."
"Epona is no slender pony this time, instead a solid, gigantic, invincible animal."
During the first 6 hours you will have done more than the equivalent of 3 dungeons in on any other zelda game in terms of new items, skills etc.
The first dungeon reminiscent of the forest temple is
"though hardly hard, it's probably as involved and suprising as any other initial zelda dungeon, if not more so."
"you begin to get a sense of the sheer dizzying scope of TP, it threatens to be absolutely immense, an epic seldom rivalled in scale outside the rpg form (and never by another launch game) and loaded heavier than ever with items, details and possibilities as yet unseen in a test that made 6 hours feel like 6 minutes."
"It's almost forbidding, TP is certainly no populist rethink of zelda, in tune with the popular all cuddly all access Wii. It is instead an all guns blazing assault on the hardcore, a fanboys wet dream (if there's any worry at all it's that it might overburden itself)"
"That's reflected in the involved controls of the wii version, though not as off putting as the E3 demo, when introduced and gradually relaxed into over time, they are delicate, sometimes demanding and occasionally frustraing. Attack gestures flow beautifully, but are sticky to start and jumping to pointer aiming can be awkward and dis-orientating. However they more than make up for it with tremendous tactile excitement, the shrill thrill of the speaker effects and the very real and seriously welcome freedom and comfort that comes from having your hands attached by 3 feet of wire, not 3 inches of plastic. . Factor in the Wii only widescreen support -no small consideration- and it's clear which version is a must have."
"The questions it answers are the important ones. Is it a challenge? Is it a mystery? Will it make your heart stop? Is it Zelda? Yes, yes, yes and yes."
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Goddamn it. This game better not make me buy a Wii. Fuck.
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i'll wait till more fan reviews come in of the remote, of course big game magazines are going to suck nintendo's tiny japanese dick.
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i'll wait till more fan reviews come in of the remote, of course big game magazines are going to suck nintendo's tiny japanese dick.
That's edge though..
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I NEED THIS GAME ladflasjdf; omg omg omg omg :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
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I think I'm going to cave and get the Wii version. Fuck.
Convince me to stay with the Gamecube version. It's not that I don't think it will be vastly superior, it's that I don't think I can wait and the PAL Wii launch line-up is pretty rubbish otherwise.
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I think I'm going to cave and get the Wii version. Fuck.
Convince me to stay with the Gamecube version. It's not that I don't think it will be vastly superior, it's that I don't think I can wait and the PAL Wii launch line-up is pretty rubbish otherwise.
I'm seriously been starting to feel the same way. I'm so weak. And broke.
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I think I'm going to cave and get the Wii version. Fuck.
Convince me to stay with the Gamecube version. It's not that I don't think it will be vastly superior, it's that I don't think I can wait and the PAL Wii launch line-up is pretty rubbish otherwise.
I'm seriously been starting to feel the same way. I'm so weak. And broke.
Maybe we should do this together, AA style. :-*
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Not buy it together? That would be the real AA-style.
"I've been addicted to Nintendo games for whole life...I can't stop buying them...it's ruined my life...I can't even wait for a Zelda game for one month"
:cries in Polari's arms:
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"There, there. It could be worse - you could be Denis Dyack or have leprosy."
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(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061101/zerda01.jpg)
(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061101/zerda02.jpg)
(http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20061101/zerda03.jpg)
:o
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Twilight Princess First Impressions Hit Intertubes
Something to piss you off: Right now, as I sit here sipping a chilled mimosa and you glued to your monitor, ******'s Mark Wilson is playing Twilight Princess. (Actually, he's probably dreaming about what he played today, but still.) What does he think? No clue. Seriously. Why? Nintendo of America has embargoed it until Friday.
Something else to piss you off: Right now, millions of Japanese people are reading in depth hands-on reviews of Twilight Princess, reviews that you cannot. Why?
To piss you off.
The good news. These early Japanese impress indicate that the game is gonna rock. There's Link. A wolf. And pure goodness, apparently. So. I'll dive in, try to highlight what Game Watch Impress and Famitsu, both of which got to try the game out on October 27 in Tokyo, said about the way it looks and how it plays. I've heard there's a lag, but didn't see that mentioned. Maybe it was there, and I missed it. If so, feel free to add anything I missed in the comments section. Onwards!
* Game Watch
Flicking or shaking it causes Link to attack. Game Watch noted that the controller is light and does not cause the wrist to get tired after extended play. Play is intuitive, and Link moves smoothly. Controlling Wolf Link is like controlling human Link. The game's graphics, they liked them. The site states, "Controlling Link and moving the controller and seeing Link synchronize with the movements was a different kind of exhilaration from anything out there." Game Watch calls the one-two compatibility punch of Twilight Princess and the Wii-mote "preeminent." In short, they dug it.
* Famitsu
The website writes, "The oneness with the character has improved greatly than a past controller." Take mini games, like fishing, which are done with the Wii remote. They called the Wii-mote operation "more intuitive." Buttons are for things like jumping. While the new controller and nunchaku are for moving and attacking. Likewise, they couldn't say enough good things about the game. The November 10th issue of Famitsu will feature a more in-depth look on paper. So you can touch it.
Mark Wilson's impressions will be here on Friday. Stay tuned!
:hyper
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Why the Gamecube version is going to be the definitive version, a list by Polari.
1. Link is left-handed, and I'm not saying this is a reason for the sake of nostalgia, but because I'm left-handed too and the Wii version doesn't seem to have an option for us southpaws.
2. The whole game isn't fucking mirrored..
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/256/monalisa1000is9.jpg)
"lol guys, it's ok, it's only mirrored"
3. For poor students who have rubbish 4:3 TVs the Wii version is going to be letterboxed. I'm all for DVDs preserving the original aspect ratio of films, but in games it's silly, especially considering most of the development for this one was in 4:3.
4. No waggle. I'm not a waggle hater. I'm sure I'll love the waggle, but only in games that were designed from the ground up for waggle. Sword movement isn't just not one-to-one, but he apparently does the same exact same fucking slash whatever sort of slashing motion you do. Rubbish.
5. You can play it on your Gamecube too. Put the Wii in the living room and the Gamecube in the bedroom :-* and alternate between playing Zelda in bed and playing Zelda sitting on the sofa. Brilliant.
6. Little discs. Everyone loves little discs. Even girls, and girls usually hate discs.
7. Whereas the Wii version will be able to be picked up for $5 with change in a year's time, the Gamecube version might actually increase in value as everyone who bought the Wii version realises how wrong they've been and fights over the 15 copies Nintendo are going to press of the Gamecube one. It's a sound investment.
8. None of this auto-shield rubbish.
9. Less tiring so we can all stay morbidly obese.
10. The HUD doesn't take up half the fucking screen.
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http://us.wii.com/viewer_zelda.jsp?vid=9
http://us.wii.com/viewer_zelda.jsp?vid=8
OMFG OMFG OMFG
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why would you want to spoil the game and look up all the media information you can? I ruined REmake hardcore when I did that, and since than anything i'm excited about I look about nothing about. The only thing I know about it so far it s the twight realm and link turns into a wolf
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REmake was just that though, a remake. Hard to get spoiled for a remake. Anyways, perhaps I will have to get a GC again. What are they these days, like 10 bucks?
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That new trailer is awesome. Also, the game won't be spoiled. Nintendo isn't stupid and is keeping most of the game under wraps obviously.
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More hype! Omg awesome! :D
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Edge loves it. I want it :-*
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OMG! First embargo is up! I think this may now have become my most anticipated game of all time.
Impressions!
I will quote the juiciest details because some of these impressions contain what you actually do in these first 10 or so hours, and I don't wanna know!
Bitter and Sweet
As a videogame reviewer and a journalist with a looming deadline, playing the near-final build of The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is a bittersweet experience. Sweet for all the obvious reasons. I could simply write that "it's Zelda" and veteran gamers would fully understand. But let me go into a little more detail for those still unfamiliar with this franchise - there might be one or two of you left, after all. Nintendo's action-adventure series has, since its conception decades ago, set the standard for the genre with incredibly deep gameplay mechanics and clever puzzles, not to mention beautiful graphics. In fact, Nintendo 64's Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is even to this day heralded as the greatest videogame ever made by too many gamers and critics to count.
Now, bearing that in mind, Twilight Princess is bigger, deeper, and prettier. Which is, of course, precisely the problem when time itself is a hot commodity for me, and this is where the bitter comes into the equation.
If Wii Sports is for the non-gamers, Twilight Princess is for the hardcore. After I spent 10 hours with the game, I barely managed to squeak by two temples, with the third so far off that I could scarcely imagine getting there, let alone approach the objective. (For the record, out of 30 or so journalists, nobody came close to the third temple.) I asked how long it took Nintendo's testers to complete the entire game the first time through. The answer is a whopping 70-plus hours. Adding insult to injury, diabolical Nintendo translator and localization manager Bill Trinen told me that he was working on his second play-through of the game. Knowing what to do and where to go, and skipping cut-scenes, Trinen said that he had logged about 27 hours to make it about two thirds of the way through the temples themselves - and that doesn't account for any of the side quests or time sucks like fishing, a single operation that could easily add hours upon hours to Zelda's depth.
When publishers claim that their games are 50 hours long, seasoned players usually half that number for the truth. But with Twilight Princess, I think we can really look forward to a 50-plus-hour adventure, bare minimum. This quest will keep you busy through the holidays and beyond. So, I'm pondering this revelation a lot as I try to imagine how in the hell I'm going to find the time to beat Zelda and still review 30 other games for the Wii launch. Of course, that's more than a little terrifying, but at the same time I am absolutely thrilled by the prospect of spending some quality time with Link, Epona, and Zelda again. Oh yeah, and Midna, too.
There's no way to know for sure how it'll all turn out yet, as even with 10 hours under my belt I've only scratched the surface. However, if the game keeps up or gets better - as Nintendo's people promise that it does - there is simply no way that the adventure will remembered as anything but a masterful classic and quite possibly the best launch title in the history of the business.
Two Systems - One Game
Twilight Princess may have started as a GameCube title, but it finished a Wii one. There remains this faction of gamers that refuses to accept the possibility. You know who you are. You continue to argue that because the controls were originally designed for the GameCube pad there is no hope for the Wii build. You say that your arms will get tired using the Wii remote. You speak of mirrored worlds and right-handed Link. And you know what? It's all crap. If you buy Twilight Princess for GameCube and not Wii, you are a fool (Himuro's note: wtf?). And I state that without meaning to suggest that the GCN iteration is flawed - it isn't. It's an amazing swan song for Nintendo's older system. But neither is it as good as the Wii incarnation. In fact, were it up to me and not Nintendo (and in my dreams, it is), I'd have scrapped the GCN build altogether, forcing everyone to exclusively buy the Wii version. Honestly, Nintendo gave you five good years with GameCube; it doesn't owe you a damned thing.
At this point, the average player will be six hours into the game -- and about a 10th of the way through the quest, to hear Nintendo tell it. So far, Twilight Princess seems nothing less than amazing; although the opening hours had the potential to feel old hat for fans who've been through the basics time and again, the game tosses in enough new twists to keep things interesting. And the look of the game is impressive; sure, it's not HD, and some of the textures seem a bit bland, but the visual design is far more beautiful than just about anything else out there.
If Twilight Princess manages to uphold the level of quality seen in its opening hours for the entire duration of the adventure, it will unquestionably go down as one of the greats. Imagine Ocarina of Time, but polished and expanded and refined and generally perfected: that's what Twilight Princess feels like so far.
I felt it was extremely important to get others viewpoints instead of just my own when it came to the Wii’s control success rate. The honest overall opinion of myself, and the journalists that I talked to is this. If you play Twilight Princess on the Cube, we feel that you are missing out on an amazing experience.
Oh man.
(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/744/744044/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-20061103051519023.jpg)
(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/744/744044/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-20061103051519836.jpg)
(http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/744/744044/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-20061103051520539.jpg)
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this game will RULE. (on GAMECUBE -- wagglecrap ruins it.)
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:hyper :hyper :hyper
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this game will RULE. (on GAMECUBE -- wagglecrap ruins it.)
That's not what all the impressions are saying...unfortunately. I don't know what to think anymore. ARGHHH
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look. the reviewers just got new wiis. they wanna lord it over you. of course they'll pretend to like the wagglecrap just because they have the NEW and you don't.
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look. the reviewers just got new wiis. they wanna lord it over you. of course they'll pretend to like the wagglecrap just because they have the NEW and you don't.
I've taken this into consideration. As well as the fact that they're all Nintendo-loving fegs.
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Drinky is right in this instance. You know this "the Wii version is hands down superior" stuff is bullshit considering they haven't played the GC version since e3 2005.
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Drinky is right in this instance. You know this "the Wii version is hands down superior" stuff is bullshit considering they haven't played the GC version since e3 2005.
I don't think Nintendo has touched the GC version since e3 2005 either. :-\
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That's what I'm telling myself. Launch games are always over-hyped by journalists can get more time with the system. From what I can tell, no one has played the GC version in a LONG time so hell what do they know.
Only thing that pisses me off is the obvious uses of the controller, which look awesome. Like that canoe race, which clearly controls like Tony Hawk Downhill Jam, but better; you move the canoe around with the wiimote as it slides down an awesome river. Or the aiming, which will clearly be better on the Wii.
That shit was added to the Wii version just to make it different imo
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Drinky is right in this instance. You know this "the Wii version is hands down superior" stuff is bullshit considering they haven't played the GC version since e3 2005.
They say that because they can obviously make a comparison to Wind Waker and the other 3d Zelda's. The GC contorls for TP won't be a great departure, and common sense says you can readily compare the two if you've spent enough time with ANY 3d Zelda, particularly WW.
More in denial GC version supporter propaganda.
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This game makes my pants sticky :-X
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Check out some of the last GC footage we saw (Kikizo 30min gameplay):
http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?fs=1&id=641#gameplay
EVERYONE was salivating over that when it was first shown, and there's no reason why it won't rock. If TP is truly better than OOT and WW, it won't matter what controller you use. It looks bigger and better than WW in every way, and having similar controls won't hurt it a bit. WW and OOT have pretty similar controls, although WW improves some things like camera view and combat. TP on the GC will have all that too.
Also (direct feed)
http://media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/vids_4.html
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Because you'll otherwise miss out on an amazing experience rather than experience something you've played similar to 3 times prior. Why play the GC version if you are going to get a Wii? It's stupid. You will ruin the experience if you're going to play the Wii version anyways.
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Because you'll otherwise miss out on an amazing experience rather than experience something you've played similar to 3 times prior. Why play the GC version if you are going to get a Wii? It's stupid. You will ruin the experience if you're going to play the Wii version anyways.
I agree. Waggling really doesn't seem that bad but I could wait for it if I didn't want to buy a wii.
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Because you'll otherwise miss out on an amazing experience rather than experience something you've played similar to 3 times prior. Why play the GC version if you are going to get a Wii? It's stupid. You will ruin the experience if you're going to play the Wii version anyways.
Didn't you see the list? I put a lot of time and effort into that list, I'll have you know.
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And the "waggling" seems overblown. Also, people seem to forget all the extra shit you can do on the wii version. Instead of pressing a button to fish, I actually fish in the Wii version. Instead of pressing a button to a row a boat, I row that boat.
Even if TP on GC is awesome, it seems it will still lack the immersion that the Wii version will only be able to supply.
Personally I want the experience to be fresh, so i'm buying a Wii at launch.
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Because you'll otherwise miss out on an amazing experience rather than experience something you've played similar to 3 times prior. Why play the GC version if you are going to get a Wii? It's stupid. You will ruin the experience if you're going to play the Wii version anyways.
I'm not getting a Wii anytime soon. It'm not spending $300 to play one game.
TP is going to be the "last" Zelda game as we know it. With that in mind, I would prefer to play it as it's meant to be played. There's going to be a true Wii talored Zelda game for the system in the future, and I'm sure it'll be great. But right now I want to take the last hurrah with traditional controls
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"Meant" to be played, and yet that version has been put to the shelf for atleast a good 6 months to a year.
I don't know, I want something different. I can only imagine what will happen if TP's controls are so good that it becomes the prime example as to how to use Wii controls. Much like Mario 64 and it's analog stick + camera. Here's hoping. Maybe then the jaded traditional controller gamers will atleast give that version a try.
I've given traditional controls a go for a good 17 years. I don't think I really need a last hurrah.
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"Meant" to be played, and yet that version has been put to the shelf for atleast a good 6 months to a year.
I don't know, I want something different. I can only imagine what will happen if TP's controls are so good that it becomes the prime example as to how to use Wii controls. Much like Mario 64 and it's analog stick + camera. Here's hoping. Maybe then the jaded traditional controller gamers will atleast give that version a try.
It's been on the shelf because Nintendo is a group of fucking liars. The Wii version is being pushed while 20mil Gamecube owners are disrespected. Meh. Nintendo can fuck my grandma and little sister all they want, but if they don't want to give me equal fucking time...forget them. Go for the non gamers.
The Wii controller adds nothing to the game worth an extra $250. Swinging the controller merely replaces pushing a button, and it's not an upgrade. Aiming looks good, but Z targeting on the Gamecube looks great too. You could shoot bows and use boomerangs in Wind Waker and nobody complained.
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Different way of thinking I guess.
How are the GC owners being disrespected? The GC is fucking dead.
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Yeah it's dead. I wonder why..
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Different way of thinking I guess.
How are the GC owners being disrespected? The GC is fucking dead.
Oh come on, Himuro. GC owners have been waiting for this fucking game for 2 years.
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True, they have. But why act like the controls in the Wii version are a problem?
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lol @ himu acting like flicking your wrist is the greatest thing ever.
Himo, it's been confirmed many of times that it's a simple flick wrist motion, nothing overly complicated that's going into this. If you think your going to be "rowing" your boat your in for it big time.
If anything I'll tape my tv remote to my cube controller and do the same motion while pressing the A button, problem solved.
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When I really think about doing all this shit while playing, I still can't imagine it being any better (except for the fishing mini-game), but all these fucking positive impressions have worn me down. Especially since I was going to get a Wii eventually anyway, but I was planning on waiting until Mario or SSBB. I'm still not getting it at launch though. I just wish Nintendo would show the GC version for even a fucking second. They've definitely had just piles of finished GC discs laying around for months.
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lol @ himu acting like flicking your wrist is the greatest thing ever.
Himo, it's been confirmed many of times that it's a simple flick wrist motion, nothing overly complicated that's going into this. If you think your going to be "rowing" your boat your in for it big time.
If anything I'll tape my tv remote to my cube controller and do the same motion while pressing the A button, problem solved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e2STU_wqGM
And on another note, did I ever say that there had to be a detailed stroke to register a strike in TP Wii? No.
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OMG FISHING
I barely played the fishing game in OOT. I was too busy, you know, actually kicking ass and exploring shit.
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I take my Zelda games in. Sorry for not rushing shit.
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I don't rush either. That doesn't mean I spend my time fishing lol. There was so much better stuff to do in OOT imo
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There's nothing wrong with having fun with a relaxing mini game. Especially when the rest of the game is full of ass kicking and puzzle solving.
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I know; dude, I'm not saying fishing sucks and shouldn't be played. I'm just saying I'm not spending $300 just to be able to fish more realistically; it's not important enough to the game to justify such a price.
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If I'm spending 70 hours on a game I'm not wasting a minute fishing. Fucking Nintendo. 70 hours. Heard of pacing, dipshits?
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If I'm spending 70 hours on a game I'm not wasting a minute fishing. Fucking Nintendo. 70 hours. Heard of pacing, dipshits?
It's not going to be 70 hours. Nintendo is full of shit.
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If I'm spending 70 hours on a game I'm not wasting a minute fishing. Fucking Nintendo. 70 hours. Heard of pacing, dipshits?
It's not going to be 70 hours. Nintendo is full of shit.
It better not be boring like 3/4 of Wind Waker was.
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If I'm spending 70 hours on a game I'm not wasting a minute fishing. Fucking Nintendo. 70 hours. Heard of pacing, dipshits?
Dude, everyone said there's tons of shit to do. It won't be boring like WW.
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Actually Ruz...
I've always supported the Wii version. I wanted teh Wii version more since it was announced. It's just that I didn't want to get the cash for a Wii + Zelda. But after all the GC version bullshit I just decided to chip in and buy a Wii + Zelda.
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I've been iffy on the Wii ever since I moved. I suppose I have enough room to waggle in my room, but as of right now I simply cannot justify buying a console to play one game. Red Steel looks fun, and I'd probably buy it, but it's not like I need to play fucking Red Steel. By the time Mario Galaxy comes out the Wii should have a better lineup. As of right now, I'm highly disappointed. The third party support, outside of Red Steel, is looking very weak, and phoned in. Where's Capcom? I know they're doing a RE game, but it sounds like a bunch of shit jumbled up. It looks like RE5 will be the real sequel I'm looking for, and it's on the 360.
By the time I buy the 360 there will be about 5-6 games out that I really want to play on it, including stuff like Gears of War and Lost Planet.
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You don't need much room at all. If you have room to play any other game you have room for a Wii + waggle. Especially since playing with the Wii is a more relaxed process than with a standard game controller.
Add to the fact that Wii is small as fucking hell, and I wonder why you even brought that up. It seems to me you aren't willing to give Wii a chance, PD. But after the GC, I'm pretty sure you're burned pretty bad as a Nintendo fan.
As for 3rd party support these are the games that interest me:
Trauma Center
Super Swing Golf
Resident Evil
Elebits
Red Steel
Rayman
Excite Truck
Metal Slug Anthology
Forever Blue
Sonic
Cooking Mama
Not to mention Nintendo 1st party games. The line up is looking a hell of a lot better than ps3s.
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You don't need much room at all. If you have room to play any other game you have room for a Wii + waggle. Especially since playing with the Wii is a more relaxed process than with a standard game controller.
Add to the fact that Wii is small as fucking hell, and I wonder why you even brought that up. It seems to me you aren't willing to give Wii a chance, PD. But after the GC, I'm pretty sure you're burned pretty bad as a Nintendo fan.
No, I was burned at E3. All the hype, all the interest. Fuck, I spent like half a week creating more hype for Nintendo on the internet through Broken Saints than they ever did lol. Two disappointing E3s later I'm still waiting to be impressed. Right now, I see a bunch of terrible minigame romps, some ports, and a couple good looking games scattered about.
I remember hearing about how FPS games on the Wii would be amazing. Hell, I spent like 30min typing up that Game Informer article on Red Steel and posting it on GAF. Yes, I was extremely excited. I remember reading how the AI would be like FEAR's AI, and how quick 360degree turns with the Wii were on pace with mouse controls. But so far, Red Steel and MP3 have rather clunky controls that aren't smooth, especially when you try to turn. Maybe that will be fixed in the future.
Nintendo has shown off tons of minigame romps that NO ONE cares about. Why? So they can potentially get 50 year old women to buy a videogame system. Why aren't they showing a nearly equal emphasis on hardcore games for the hardcore gamers who they already sold 2 billion+ games to? Zelda, yeah. Mario, yeah. What else? SSBB, true, and guess what: it uses the Gamecube controller. Fire Emblem, yes, which doesn't use the controller either. Nintendo seems bent on creating tons of new IPs for nongamers, but what about new IPs for more casual/hardcore gamers? Project Hammer? lol
I'm going to get Zelda on my Gamecube and enjoy it, while playing through RE4 again with component cables. I'll get the MP games again and try to beat them. Heck I never finished Wind Waker's final few fetch quests, so I'll play through that again. By the time I'm done, maybe Nintendo will give me an incentive to buy their new console.
The Wii is going to flounder in the US over time, and maybe then Nintendo will realize that alienating your bread and butter customers in order to gain a group of people who have no interest in gaming...is not a good idea. Good luck selling systems to 50 year olds Nintendo. Might as well try to sell them a rap CD
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Alienating your bread and butter customers? That's hliarious PD, because Wii offers a mixture between being enjoyable for non-gamers and gamers alike, much like DS.
It just seems to me that you are jaded and really can't accept change at all.
You act like trying to appeal to the wider market is a bad thing. Sorry PD, but I'm tired of the double standards that our industry faces. Shit like, if I say I played a game all day, I get funny faces. But if some cigarillo says he watched football all day people toss him a beer. Crap like that. In order to actually make sure gaming doesn't fall into a rut, become niche, and appeal to only a certain demogrpahic much like comic books, we need to start appealling to a wider audience.
I see nothing wrong with this at all. The chances of non-games completely taking over the industry are slim at best so stop worrying, stop making baseless statements, and have an open mind. If Wii fails, atleast Nintendo tried. And I have respect for that. You can continue playing games the same way we've been playing them for 20 years all you want, but I see nothing wrong with a different change of pace.
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Buy a PS2, PD.
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http://www.thewiire.com/news/548/1/Twilight_Princess_to_Feature_Downloadable_Content
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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This is like, my most anticipated game of all time currently.
And it needs to come out. Right fucking now.
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Alienating your bread and butter customers? That's hliarious PD, because Wii offers a mixture between being enjoyable for non-gamers and gamers alike, much like DS.
It just seems to me that you are jaded and really can't accept change at all.
You act like trying to appeal to the wider market is a bad thing. Sorry PD, but I'm tired of the double standards that our industry faces. Shit like, if I say I played a game all day, I get funny faces. But if some cigarillo says he watched football all day people toss him a beer. Crap like that. In order to actually make sure gaming doesn't fall into a rut, become niche, and appeal to only a certain demogrpahic much like comic books, we need to start appealling to a wider audience.
I see nothing wrong with this at all. The chances of non-games completely taking over the industry are slim at best so stop worrying, stop making baseless statements, and have an open mind. If Wii fails, atleast Nintendo tried. And I have respect for that. You can continue playing games the same way we've been playing them for 20 years all you want, but I see nothing wrong with a different change of pace.
Appealing to a wide market is not a bad thing; I never said it was. I only ask that Nintendo spend as much time releasing real games as they do non games on the Wii. We've seen many new nongame IPs, yet Nintendo has yet to create any new IPs for hardcore gamers. I want to see them focus on creating new franchises instead of casually throwing current ones into new genres, like Metroid Hunters. Why can't Retro work on an actual FPS instead of creating "deathmatch" Metroid modes? Why can't Intelligent Systems create a new series to serve as Nintendo's actual RPG series, or at least make Fire Emblem more marketable? Why can't Camelot bring Golden Sun to the Wii, or even DS? Why not have NST work on something people actually want to play? And why bog Aonuma down as just "the Zelda guy"? If Nintendo had made Miyamoto "just the Mario guy" things wouldn't have turned out so great. I want to see Aonuma branch out before going to work on the next Zelda. I want to see Nintendo start up the same inner development competition/rivalries that turned out games like Donkey Kong Country and Mario 64 (which was Miyamoto's answer to Rare's hit titles).
Why not spend a little money securing certain next gen support?